Athlete in trouble

[cypress rock]

40/29 reporting U of A student athlete being investigated for a bar incident on November 12

[DeltaBoy]

Wow

[Wildhog]

Isn't that the same night Cole was arrested?

[Tyrant Hog]

It was bielema being drunk at rogers rec and Bruce from baldknob told bielema he is a garbage coach. Bielema left and one of the players intervened. Bielema should have been fired immediately after south carolina but long didn't do it and his head rolled

[Sho Nuff]

Well, that can't be good.

[Hogindasticks]

boom!

[ur]

Well, he is only 20. He got that liquor from someone or somewhere.

[lunchbox72703]

I wonder which bar?

[Three and Snout]

The ABC is investigating, so I think it's the bar in trouble, not the athlete.

[Three and Snout]

I wonder which bar?

Z330

http://www.4029tv.com/article/state-agents-investigating-fayetteville-bar/13798546

[factchecker]

I swear our fans are idiots:

https://twitter.com/victoriapricetv/status/931652645177233413

https://twitter.com/victoriapricetv/status/931656215163260928

The BAR is in trouble not an athlete.

[factchecker]

boom!

You are happy about the idea that a player is in trouble?

Sorry that it's the bar that is in trouble not a player.

Sorry for your loss.

[Wildhog]

Well, he is only 20. He got that liquor from someone or somewhere.

That's what I'm thinking.  The rumor was that he was the one buying shots. 

[factchecker]

Threads like this makes it real easy to see who the real fans are.

[sowmonella]

Threads like this makes it real easy to see who the real fans are.

Yes it does.

[bjeffersonhog]

Not surprised @ which bar it is

[factchecker]

Yes it does.

Seriously,  who celebrates the idea of one of our players getting in trouble?

[farmhawg]

Low post trolls, they are everywhere.

[hoglady]

I think the drinking age should be 18.
I know many say they are too immature.
Well - we view them as mature enough to be responsible in a court of law for their actions, to purchase property, to go fight our wars. If they can do all those things - it's ridiculous that it's illegal for a 20 year old to purchase a drink.

[OtterHog]

Seriously,  who celebrates the idea of one of our players getting in trouble?

People who aren't really fans, but just like to complain about everything and pile on.

Misery loves company.

[Piggfoot]

I think the drinking age should be 18.
I know many say they are too immature.
Well - we view them as mature enough to be responsible in a court of law for their actions, to purchase property, to go fight our wars. If they can do all those things - it's ridiculous that it's illegal for a 20 year old to purchase a drink.

we do agree on some things .

[huntindoc]

Ideally it should be a sliding scale.  I know several 50+ yo that arent old enough to drink responsibly.  Lol.

[oldhawg]

Right or wrong, here's a little history:

"Late 1960s and 1970s: Drinking age lowered. During the late 1960s and 1970s, nearly all states lowered the drinking age to 18. This led to a huge increase in alcohol-related car accidents and drunk driving was deemed a public health crisis. In the mid-1970s, 60 percent of all traffic fatalities were alcohol related, according to the National Institute of Health(NIH). Over two-thirds of car accidents involving persons aged 16 to 20 were alcohol-related."

"1984-2014: National drinking age raised to 21: In response to the drunk driving epidemic of the 1970s, President Ronald Reagan passed the Minimum Drinking Age Act in July 1984, a law that mandated states increase the drinking age to 21."

[Tigaman]

Someone had tweeted that Cole Kelley was at a bar a few hours before he was arrested. There was a thread on Hogville discussing it but both the thread and the tweet have been deleted. I assume that tweet started the investigation.

[sickboy]

40/29 reporting U of A student athlete being investigated for a bar incident on November 12

Get this clickbait junk outta here!

[HogHomer]

Right or wrong, here's a little history:

"Late 1960s and 1970s: Drinking age lowered. During the late 1960s and 1970s, nearly all states lowered the drinking age to 18. This led to a huge increase in alcohol-related car accidents and drunk driving was deemed a public health crisis. In the mid-1970s, 60 percent of all traffic fatalities were alcohol related, according to the National Institute of Health(NIH). Over two-thirds of car accidents involving persons aged 16 to 20 were alcohol-related."

"1984-2014: National drinking age raised to 21: In response to the drunk driving epidemic of the 1970s, President Ronald Reagan passed the Minimum Drinking Age Act in July 1984, a law that mandated states increase the drinking age to 21."

I know I wouldn't have wanted the guys I went to high school as a senior with making a judgement call on if they were sober enough to drive.

[Salted Pork]

Someone had tweeted that Cole Kelley was at a bar a few hours before he was arrested. There was a thread on Hogville discussing it but both the thread and the tweet have been deleted. I assume that tweet started the investigation.

Yup, that was my thread and it got deleted. Don't know why.

[hoglady]

I know I wouldn't have wanted the guys I went to high school as a senior with making a judgement call on if they were sober enough to drive.

But we have no problem with them strapping on a gun to fight our wars.
And we have no problem sentencing them to prison terms as adults.

It's either one way or other / we should either treat them as adults or treat them as kids.

[hoglady]

Right or wrong, here's a little history:

"Late 1960s and 1970s: Drinking age lowered. During the late 1960s and 1970s, nearly all states lowered the drinking age to 18. This led to a huge increase in alcohol-related car accidents and drunk driving was deemed a public health crisis. In the mid-1970s, 60 percent of all traffic fatalities were alcohol related, according to the National Institute of Health(NIH). Over two-thirds of car accidents involving persons aged 16 to 20 were alcohol-related."

"1984-2014: National drinking age raised to 21: In response to the drunk driving epidemic of the 1970s, President Ronald Reagan passed the Minimum Drinking Age Act in July 1984, a law that mandated states increase the drinking age to 21."

There's been such a crack down and awareness campaigns on drunk driving since that time.
Back then even the police would pull you over and then follow you home.

[Vantage 8 dude]

But we have no problem with them strapping on a gun to fight our wars.
And we have no problem sentencing them to prison terms as adults.

It's either one way or other / we should either treat them as adults or treat them as kids.

Give it up. The drinking age, at least here in Arkansas, is not going to be lowered.

[Lady Razorback]

Ideally it should be a sliding scale.  I know several 50+ yo that arent old enough to drink responsibly.  Lol.

This is so true. 

[Lady Razorback]

I think the drinking age should be 18.
I know many say they are too immature.
Well - we view them as mature enough to be responsible in a court of law for their actions, to purchase property, to go fight our wars. If they can do all those things - it's ridiculous that it's illegal for a 20 year old to purchase a drink.

I heard on the national news in the last week or so that there is a state trying to bring down the drinking age in their state.  Maybe it was Wisconsin?  I mean no joke intended. 

[hoglady]

Give it up. The drinking age, at least here in Arkansas, is not going to be lowered.

Of course it's not - it's a federal law.
If a state changed their law - they would lose federal funds.

[Martygit]

http://www.arkansasmatters.com/news/local-news/fayetteville-bar-investigated-after-hogs-qb-incident/859421316

[HawgTide]

I swear our fans are idiots:

https://twitter.com/victoriapricetv/status/931652645177233413

https://twitter.com/victoriapricetv/status/931656215163260928

The BAR is in trouble not an athlete.

Our fans are idiots

[Bkhardicars]

Well, the good news, if BB was involved and publicly 3 sheets to the wind, would that be cause and save us a few million?

[PharmacistHog]

Right or wrong, here's a little history:

"Late 1960s and 1970s: Drinking age lowered. During the late 1960s and 1970s, nearly all states lowered the drinking age to 18. This led to a huge increase in alcohol-related car accidents and drunk driving was deemed a public health crisis. In the mid-1970s, 60 percent of all traffic fatalities were alcohol related, according to the National Institute of Health(NIH). Over two-thirds of car accidents involving persons aged 16 to 20 were alcohol-related."

"1984-2014: National drinking age raised to 21: In response to the drunk driving epidemic of the 1970s, President Ronald Reagan passed the Minimum Drinking Age Act in July 1984, a law that mandated states increase the drinking age to 21."

Any idea how you could still buy beer in louisiana at 18 as late as the 90's?  Never understood that but didnt complain.

[idochog]

The only truth in this is Bielema is in fact garbage

[AirWarren]

Low post trolls, they are everywhere.

Many posts losers, they are everywhere.

[oldhawg]

But we have no problem with them strapping on a gun to fight our wars.
And we have no problem sentencing them to prison terms as adults.

It's either one way or other / we should either treat them as adults or treat them as kids.

Please pardon the long monologue, I am really not preaching.

I agree with you, but there is a bit of irony there.  The quality that brands young people as "risks" if allowed to drink at an early age is the same quality that makes them heroes on the battle field.  They are all invincible and  indestructible, they don't give a second thought about putting themselves in harms way when the mission and situation call for it.  Give me the 18-22 year old any day over the 25-30 year old in an attack on a fortified position.  Heroes, all of them.  And yet, they also don't give a second about knocking back a few  and getting behind the wheel of a two ton guided projectile and hauling ass down the interstate.  Again, the feelings of invincibility and indestructibility.  Whatta do?  I speak as a 20+ year veteran.

Personally (although many disagree with me) I believe that in the case of the young soldier, they have earned the right to drink because with their experience comes some sense of responsibility, though not always expressed.  My feelings about young college students is not so certain, probably because I remember my irresponsible drinking days as a college student --- again with feelings of invincibility.  Plus, I have a close friend whose daughter (a college student many years ago) was walking across campus and had a drunk driver (another college student) jump the curb, run over her, and kill her.

Tough issues, and admittedly because of the issues outlined above, my sentiments vacillate.   

[majestic]

Z330

http://www.4029tv.com/article/state-agents-investigating-fayetteville-bar/13798546

That's too bad. I've been friends with Van since the old days at My Pleasure.

[thebignasty]

That's what I'm thinking.  The rumor was that he was the one buying shots.

I think that rumor is true

[The Hawg Marshal]

But we have no problem with them strapping on a gun to fight our wars.
And we have no problem sentencing them to prison terms as adults.

It's either one way or other / we should either treat them as adults or treat them as kids.

I don't know if it is still this way or not, but when I was in the military, you could drink at 18 on base.

[Hog N Bama]

Seriously,  who celebrates the idea of one of our players getting in trouble?

Trolls who are not Arkansas fans

[Piggfoot]

The ABC has very little power to prevent selling of alcohol to under age patrons. The ABC Is requesting more clout but hasn't been successfully to date.
The first offense is only a $1000 fine and a misdemeanor. . A lot of money can be made before caught. Subsequent offenses may Be a felony with a much larger fine and loss of their permit.

[NuttinItUp]

If you can die for the country at 18, you should be able to have a beer.

JMO

[Carl Lazlo]

Any idea how you could still buy beer in louisiana at 18 as late as the 90's?  Never understood that but didnt complain.

It was like the old wild west.   Harolds for the win and cooter bay if you wanted to go all out.

[Tortfeasor]

Of course it's not - it's a federal law.
If a state changed their law - they would lose federal funds.

The federal act only states the age to purchase or public possess. They could follow Louisiana and make it 18 to drink alcohol.

[(notOM)Rebel123]

Dewey defeats Truman!

[bondhue]

Right or wrong, here's a little history:

"Late 1960s and 1970s: Drinking age lowered. During the late 1960s and 1970s, nearly all states lowered the drinking age to 18. This led to a huge increase in alcohol-related car accidents and drunk driving was deemed a public health crisis. In the mid-1970s, 60 percent of all traffic fatalities were alcohol related, according to the National Institute of Health(NIH). Over two-thirds of car accidents involving persons aged 16 to 20 were alcohol-related."

"1984-2014: National drinking age raised to 21: In response to the drunk driving epidemic of the 1970s, President Ronald Reagan passed the Minimum Drinking Age Act in July 1984, a law that mandated states increase the drinking age to 21."

It was not a mandate.   It was a condition of aid.   See South Dakota v. Dole, 1987.  The federal government has no police power, and the 21st Amendment gives control over alcohol exclusively to the states.