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hogsanity

Knowing the avg salary in the secw is 4mil or so, how much should the Hogs pay the next coach? Lets look at this 2 ways. 1 how much should we pay any of the following:

Gus
Strong
Norvell
Frost
Leach

2. How much should we pay generic OTHER hire?
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Quote from: hogsanity on November 17, 2017, 03:03:10 pm
Knowing the avg salary in the secw is 4mil or so, how much should the Hogs pay the next coach? Lets look at this 2 ways. 1 how much should we pay any of the following:

Gus  - 6.5
Strong - 4
Norvell - 3
Frost - 3
Leach - 4.5

2. How much should we pay generic OTHER hire? 4
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RME

Quote from: PorkSoda on November 17, 2017, 03:47:37 pm
Gus  - 6.5
Strong - 4
Norvell - 3
Frost - 3
Leach - 4.5

$6.5 million for Gus? We'd pay Gus Malzahn enough to make him the 4th highest paid college football coach?

Please God no.

NuttinItUp

I like PorkSoda's numbers. I am voting for those.

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PorkSoda

Quote from: RyanMallettsEgo on November 17, 2017, 03:49:58 pm
$6.5 million for Gus? We'd pay Gus Malzahn enough to make him the 4th highest paid college football coach?

Please God no.
you got a better idea to get a NC caliber coach to arkansas?

he aint taking a pay cut and he already makes 5.7
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TexasHog

They will pay too much like all the other big schools.

RME

Quote from: PorkSoda on November 17, 2017, 03:54:38 pm
you got a better idea to get a NC caliber coach to arkansas?

he aint taking a pay cut and he already makes 5.7

Yeah. I'm good with passing on Gus completely.

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Quote from: hogsanity on November 17, 2017, 03:03:10 pm
Knowing the avg salary in the secw is 4mil or so, how much should the Hogs pay the next coach? Lets look at this 2 ways. 1 how much should we pay any of the following:

Gus-$4mil plus incentives
Strong-$1.5mil
Norvell-$3mil with incentives
Frost-$3mil with incentives
Leach-$0

2. How much should we pay generic OTHER hire?

 

PorkSoda

Quote from: RyanMallettsEgo on November 17, 2017, 03:56:33 pm
Yeah. I'm good with passing on Gus completely.
I get the feeling that he is the top target, but I also get the feeling that he will play us for a raise at auburn and we will move on to more realistic candidates.

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RazorPiggie

We would be the dumbest fanbase if we paid Gus $6.5. He aint worth that.

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Quote from: NuttinItUp on November 17, 2017, 03:50:18 pm
I like PorkSoda's numbers. I am voting for those.

I think PorkSoda's numbers are good, too.  I think you can argue the merits of the individual coaches, but the comparative price tags are based upon experience, past results and demand at the current time. 

RazorPiggie

Knowing the avg salary in the secw is 4mil or so, how much should the Hogs pay the next coach? Lets look at this 2 ways. 1 how much should we pay any of the following:

Gus $4m plus major incentives 
Strong $2.5 plus incentives
Norvell $3m plus incentives
Frost $3m plus incentives
Leach $3m plus incentives


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311Hog

tuition + room and board, maybe an additional small stipend.

Michael D Huff AIA

You pay what it takes to get your guy.  That number goes up every year.

PorkSoda

Quote from: Hawg Life on November 17, 2017, 04:10:48 pm
Norvell or Frost would be Awesome for $3M
yeah, I think that is a good bang for your buck deal that doesn't break the bank.

depending on who else is trying to get them, I could see up to 3.5 but not more than that.  keep in mind CBB came in with a pretty solid resume at 3.2
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HogHolio

Base salary of $2.5 million.
$300k for every win over 6.
Then incremental bonuses for various levels of bowls.

aloha_kid

Quote from: RazorPiggie on November 17, 2017, 04:01:57 pm
We would be the dumbest fanbase if we paid Gus $6.5. He aint worth that.

Wouldn't be the first time we've held that title.

 

GuvHog

Quote from: RazorPiggie on November 17, 2017, 04:01:57 pm
We would be the dumbest fanbase if we paid Gus $6.5. He aint worth that.

My thoughts exactly.
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Hawg Life

Quote from: PorkSoda on November 17, 2017, 03:47:37 pm


So, we can hire Norvell & Frost for $500,000 less than Gus!!!
NO F"N way we should hire St. Gus for that amount!!!

Hawg Life

Quote from: PorkSoda on November 17, 2017, 04:22:30 pm
yeah, I think that is a good bang for your buck deal that doesn't break the bank.

depending on who else is trying to get them, I could see up to 3.5 but not more than that.  keep in mind CBB came in with a pretty solid resume at 3.2

No Go on GUS!!!

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With Gus, I think you match whatever Auburn is willing to pay him. See if the urge to come home is that strong.
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Quote from: Michael D Huff AIA on November 17, 2017, 04:18:21 pm
You pay what it takes to get your guy.  That number goes up every year.
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PorkSoda

Quote from: Hawg Life on November 17, 2017, 04:28:04 pm
So, we can hire Norvell & Frost for $500,000 less than Gus!!!
NO F"N way we should hire St. Gus for that amount!!!
no [CENSORED] way he is coming for less than that.

if he beats bama and goes to the play offs, he is worth as much or more than harbough or meyer, who by the way are currently ranked lower than auburn.

the market price for a top tier coach is what it is.

if we want to stay a mediocre program, we should go with a budget hire like norvell.
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GuvHog

Quote from: PorkSoda on November 17, 2017, 04:33:30 pm
no [CENSORED] way he is coming for less than that.

if he beats bama and goes to the play offs, he is worth as much or more than harbough or meyer, who by the way are currently ranked lower than auburn.

the market price for a top tier coach is what it is.

if we want to stay a mediocre program, we should go with a budget hire like norvell.

If he Beats Bama and goes to the playoffs, he isn't coming anyway because Arkansas can't afford to wait that long.
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PorkSoda

Quote from: GuvHog on November 17, 2017, 04:36:48 pm
If he Beats Bama and goes to the playoffs, he isn't coming anyway because Arkansas can't afford to wait that long.
I agree we aren't waiting until after the play offs.  he will either come at the end of the regular season or we will move on.  I don't think that depends on whether he beats bama.  I think it depends on whether we can offer him enough money to get his attention.
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younghog

I say if its a Top Quality coach.. 500k more than one he making currently

1.2 mill increase for every 10+ win season
GO HOGS

Rzbakfromwaybak

$350,000 for every win.  $500,000 bonus for a major bowl, another $500,000 bonus for 1st place, or tie for 1st place finish in SEC west.

BB's salary was way too high.
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Quote from: Rzbakfromwaybak on November 19, 2017, 06:30:34 pm
$350,000 for every win.  $500,000 bonus for a major bowl, another $500,000 bonus for 1st place, or tie for 1st place finish in SEC west.

BB's salary was way too high.

So you are suggesting a Commission-Based Salary for the new HC? Would make them work harder hehe, but I don't think many would for for that model.

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