Player Meeting is Over

[Boardon Hamsay]

Who needs defense?! Smh

He better deliver Venables or this is doomed to fail.

Then the gob screwed this up. Shocking I know.

Dude. It's obvious you're going to be miserable for the foreseeable future. Why are you here? You think the hire is terrible yet you come here to fully slather yourself in, get this, discussion about a subject you are miserable with.

How awful are other things in your life that you hang out in a place where the primary discussion are things you think are awful? You must live in a bus toilet.  You being here is like stepping in a huge pile of dog stuff, throwing that shoe away, and then massaging your inner thighs with that same dog stuff.

To then top matters, you ironically have a tag line that says, "tell me what you don't like about yourself." I get the Nip/Tuck reference but perhaps this is a question you need to address yourself. Not trying to be a smartass at all. I think you're a good poster in fact.

Just really looking to save you time, sanity, and frustration cause the hire is done. Either give the guy a chance or take a step away from Hogville, brother!  Otherwise, find contentment in doing the same things over and over again while somehow expecting a different result.

Merry Christmas, Sh!tter was full!

[PharmacistHog]

Starcs has done his venting and is ready to move forward, I'll ask that ya'll let him. He's a good guy, was just mad but its over. Everybody try to move forward.

[Großer Kriegschwein]

He is locking down recruits, like already.

Conor Noland loves the hire. And when I mean love, I'm talking Bret/Jenn love and not Bobby/Jessica "love".

Tanner McAlister loves the hire and wants to visit again before he makes a decision.

Bumper is all about it.

Noah Gatlin is pumped to visit and meet him.


So he's already putting in work... I dig it.

[mweston]

If it IS Venerables,we may not hear anything till January

[onebadrubi]

If it IS Venerables,we may not hear anything till January

No way they go that long without a D.C. Or at least it being announced

[ricepig]

What if he does come?

About the same odds Gus was coming, huh?

[Deep Shoat]

She was on a scholarship of sorts.

Full ride?

[Großer Kriegschwein]

About the same odds Gus was coming, huh?

Bruh.

Stop ruining my dreams. lol.

[ricepig]

No. Petrino worked them like dogs during the offseason and during the season. and that's putting it nicely.

175 plays in a scrimmage was normal.

what did Bert have? 75?

So, you were in the workouts?

[Dominicanhog]

If it IS Venerables,we may not hear anything till January

I'm having a hard time understanding why he would do that.. he's set, his kid's coming and any money we offer, Clemson is likely to match..

I have a question.. Is Brent a Sexton guy?

[elksnort]

DJ Williams said the TE's would gather around before practice and pray they'd make it through a Petrino practice.  Showed up for a Bielema practice and it was laid back, music playing, have a good old time.  Petrino won and Bielema didn't so I'd say no.   

kind of what I was getting at

[silverandbluedc]

He is locking down recruits, like already.

Conor Noland loves the hire. And when I mean love, I'm talking Bret/Jenn love and not Bobby/Jessica "love".

Tanner McAlister loves the hire and wants to visit again before he makes a decision.

Bumper is all about it.

Noah Gatlin is pumped to visit and meet him.


So he's already putting in work... I dig it.

I posted a soundcloud interview from a SMU reporter on the board and in it he says if CCM gets into the room with recruits and players he will win. Sounds like it is already happening.

[Jonbo]

Who needs defense?! Smh

He better deliver Venables or this is doomed to fail.

I'm sure without Venables none of it's going to work.  /unsarc

[HogBreath]

Haven't competed for SEC title since 06. Boner Bob's best year we were 3rd nationally.

Fify.

[Dwight_K_Shrute]

I'm having a hard time understanding why he would do that.. he's set, his kid's coming and any money we offer, Clemson is likely to match..

I have a question.. Is Brent a Sexton guy?

Yep

[JONAS]

It's time to hang out at #chad'spad and get behind him and the team or find somewhere else  to display your negativity because these guys have seen enough of it from our fan base. Time to saddle up and man up. (Me included.)

Yep.  I'm with you.

[Jonbo]

Serious question.
Is it necessary for players to "love the coach" in order to have a successful team?
Is Saban, Petrino, Sweeny, etc loved?

Beilema was loved.

[HogFoo]

I just wonder why so many of you are convinced we can compete for sec titles with this hire. What evidence leads anyone to believe that?

As long as fans allow the ptb to continue screwing us, then we deserve it.

i wasnt a fan of the hire either.  Like most, i said 'Who?'  when i first heard his name called.  Then i did a little research.  yes, this wasn't a big name HR hire.  But, it by all accounts is a solid double!  The guy helped bring clemson up to where they are now.  He then took over a dumpster fire at SMU.  And he has consistently improved their record every year he was there.  He was a texas HS coach if i read correctly, and has deep ties to recruiting in texas.  That is something Brett failed to do was bring in enough texas recruits.  And with Morris, it looks like that will no longer be a problem.  His style of offense works well for Clemson, and i think it will work well for us.  Clemson was a slow work of art, but  Morris was part of them now being a perrenial power.  With his ties to texas, him being able to still claim fame from Clemson, D.watson, etc..  plus him having what appears to be an exciting brand of football.  It makes me think that this will be a successful venture for Hog football.  I am willing to give the guy a chance, and if it doesnt work out, it doesnt work out and we redo again in 4-5yrs.  But, i have a good feeling about it.  On paper, it looks like Coach Morris knows what he's doing, and i think that he will be able to use the same blueprint he used with Clemson to do something similar here in Fayetteville.   

   Now , if we can bring in a DC who will be able to get our Dfense conditioned to handle his offense, then we'll have something special.  i doubt he'll get Venables, but, it isnt that far out of the realm of possibility.  Venables was with Chokelahomo for many years, so he knows this area, lived in this region, etc...   it wouldnt be hard to believe that he wouldnt mind coming back.  But, again, he is with a current top team.  So, highly doubtful.   In any case,  i am going to give the guy a chance.  The best news i heard today when the talking heads were making mention of Coach Morris, was when they said he'd be getting rid of that worthless 500lb  tub of horse manure Anderson.    That dude's hiring cost Bielema his job.  So, i was very glad to see he was gone! 

anyways,  welcome aboard coach morris.   you have 4-5yrs to prove your worth.  i hope you do it.  i'll be buying my tickets just as i have always done, and for those of you who keep saying you arent renewing yours, then good!  i'll just keep getting better seats.  ;-) 

[Bardicer]

I bet your wife wakes up every morning looks over seeing you and thinks "damn he's still here".

You assume s/he has a wife...

[GuvHog]

i wasnt a fan of the hire either.  Like most, i said 'Who?'  when i first heard his name called.  Then i did a little research.  yes, this wasn't a big name HR hire.  But, it by all accounts is a solid double!  The guy helped bring clemson up to where they are now.  He then took over a dumpster fire at SMU.  And he has consistently improved their record every year he was there.  He was a texas HS coach if i read correctly, and has deep ties to recruiting in texas.  That is something Brett failed to do was bring in enough texas recruits.  And with Morris, it looks like that will no longer be a problem.  His style of offense works well for Clemson, and i think it will work well for us.  Clemson was a slow work of art, but  Morris was part of them now being a perrenial power.  With his ties to texas, him being able to still claim fame from Clemson, D.watson, etc..  plus him having what appears to be an exciting brand of football.  It makes me think that this will be a successful venture for Hog football.  I am willing to give the guy a chance, and if it doesnt work out, it doesnt work out and we redo again in 4-5yrs.  But, i have a good feeling about it.  On paper, it looks like Coach Morris knows what he's doing, and i think that he will be able to use the same blueprint he used with Clemson to do something similar here in Fayetteville.   

   Now , if we can bring in a DC who will be able to get our Dfense conditioned to handle his offense, then we'll have something special.  i doubt he'll get Venables, but, it isnt that far out of the realm of possibility.  Venables was with Chokelahomo for many years, so he knows this area, lived in this region, etc...   it wouldnt be hard to believe that he wouldnt mind coming back.  But, again, he is with a current top team.  So, highly doubtful.   In any case,  i am going to give the guy a chance.  The best news i heard today when the talking heads were making mention of Coach Morris, was when they said he'd be getting rid of that worthless 500lb  tub of horse manure Anderson.    That dude's hiring cost Bielema his job.  So, i was very glad to see he was gone! 

anyways,  welcome aboard coach morris.   you have 4-5yrs to prove your worth.  i hope you do it.  i'll be buying my tickets just as i have always done, and for those of you who keep saying you arent renewing yours, then good!  i'll just keep getting better seats.  ;-) 

Venables has family living in Oklahoma which includes his parents and he wants to get back closer to them. Though I still say it's a long shot, it's still within the realm of possibility that he could come to Arkansas as DC and assistant HC.

[Dominicanhog]

Yep

Well then.. sounds as though Arkansas is the gift that keeps on giving for Jimmy.

[hoghearted]

Not sure where to pose this question..... anybody know his philosophy on fans watching a few practices?

[HogNTX]

Full ride?

In more ways than one.

[PonderinHog]

Not sure where to pose this question..... anybody know his philosophy on fans watching a few practices?

Not sure about fans, but he had an open door policy with high school coaches.  It must be true.  I read it on Hogville.

[Scott7703]

About the same odds Gus was coming, huh?

About the same odds you are just pissing in the wind about knowing what's going to happeN.

The first offer goes to Venables, for a substantial raise. I ask again. What if he comes?

[PonderinHog]

About the same odds you are just pissing in the wind about knowing what's going to happeN.

The first offer goes to Venables, for a substantial raise. I ask again. What if he comes?

We'll probably take him

[ricepig]

About the same odds you are just pissing in the wind about knowing what's going to happeN.

The first offer goes to Venables, for a substantial raise. I ask again. What if he comes?

If he comes, I'll be elated, but I put the % at .001, like the chance Gus was coming.

[berryhog]

If he comes, I'll be elated, but I put the % at .001, like the chace Gus was coming.

Don't start acting like you had sources (or common sense) now.   

[870hogfan]

No. Petrino worked them like dogs during the offseason and during the season. and that's putting it nicely.

175 plays in a scrimmage was normal.

what did Bert have? 75?

Bert Reynolds?

[Scott7703]

If he comes, I'll be elated, but I put the % at .001, like the chance Gus was coming.

I don't think he is coming but he will have to say no to more than money than i can believe we would offer. This kind of thing never works out for Arkansas so color me skeptical again. 

Gus made multiple people more important than you or I in the big picture or razorback sports and also family members believe he was coming. I had a family member tell me he was coming for two weeks and then Sunday it changed and he said no go. Way closer to happening than you want to believe.

[j-mann]

young men want to go up-tempo   

in college football today  unless u have a 5-star def  u are going to give up 24 a game   this is what auburn miss st ole miss play as their base atm  will be more pro-set now   

[ricepig]

I don't think he is coming but he will have to say no to more than money than i can believe we would offer. This kind of thing never works out for Arkansas so color me skeptical again. 

Gus made multiple people more important than you or I in the big picture or razorback sports and also family members believe he was coming. I had a family member tell me he was coming for two weeks and then Sunday it changed and he said no go. Way closer to happening than you want to believe.

Thus the .001 chance my source was wrong. It doesn't matter now, he's burned his bridges and we have a new coach, good times.

[berryhog]

I don't think he is coming but he will have to say no to more than money than i can believe we would offer. This kind of thing never works out for Arkansas so color me skeptical again. 

Gus made multiple people more important than you or I in the big picture or razorback sports and also family members believe he was coming. I had a family member tell me he was coming for two weeks and then Sunday it changed and he said no go. Way closer to happening than you want to believe.

Doesn't matter because it's over. However, I'll never believe we were anything other than a fallback and/or leverage for him to get a new deal with Auburn.

[Dominicanhog]

Way closer to happening than you want to believe.

I never knew either way, but did know I didn't want him.. it's easy to say he was close because there's no proof.. but If I had to guess, after Georgia, then Bama, the odds were little to none and he strung us along to get a raise and job security... which if the Venables name is really being floated, that's what's being done again.. think JS.

[CFB_Fanatic]

Dude. It's obvious you're going to be miserable for the foreseeable future. Why are you here? You think the hire is terrible yet you come here to fully slather yourself in, get this, discussion about a subject you are miserable with.

How awful are other things in your life that you hang out in a place where the primary discussion are things you think are awful? You must live in a bus toilet.  You being here is like stepping in a huge pile of dog stuff, throwing that shoe away, and then massaging your inner thighs with that same dog stuff.

To then top matters, you ironically have a tag line that says, "tell me what you don't like about yourself." I get the Nip/Tuck reference but perhaps this is a question you need to address yourself. Not trying to be a smartass at all. I think you're a good poster in fact.

Just really looking to save you time, sanity, and frustration cause the hire is done. Either give the guy a chance or take a step away from Hogville, brother!  Otherwise, find contentment in doing the same things over and over again while somehow expecting a different result.

Merry Christmas, Sh!tter was full!

THIS! SEC Champions 2018! Here we come baby!!!

[livevanguy]

  It must be true.  I read it on Hogville.

we must get shirts with that printed up to sell. I'd love to wear that around Dickson!

[factchecker]

I wonder what Rafe Peavey has to say ?

https://twitter.com/IThrowFootballs/status/938198843702808578

[SpareRib]

I just wonder why so many of you are convinced we can compete for sec titles with this hire. What evidence leads anyone to believe that?

As long as fans allow the ptb to continue screwing us, then we deserve it.

You're better than this.  Step back and get a grip.   😁

[Oklahawg]

Clemson was Dabo Swinneys first head coaching job.
Lou Holtz was 13-20 his first three years as head coach.
Frank Beamer started 24-40-2 at Virginia Tech.
Mark Dantonio was 11-12 his first two years as head coach.
Art Briles was 16-20 his first three years as a head coach.
Les Miles was 12-12 his first two years as a head coach.
Oklahoma was Bob Stoops first job as a head coach.
........ and more ........

There are plenty of examples of highly successful head coaches not starting out as winners on the field.  On the other hand, look at Arkansas's most recent experiences in hiring former D-1 coaches with winning records ----- Bret Bielema, John L. Smith, Bobby Petrino, Danny Ford.

Optimism is a state of mind.  Until I have seen the product on the field, I choose to have high expectations and positive feelings about the new coaches potential for success.  If Morris crashes and burns, I'll deal with the disappointment later.  In the meantime why not enjoy the journey, before we get to the mountains.

That's why some believe that the Razorbacks can compete in the SEC.

Time to roll the dice.

I love it.

[TexHog188]

Not sure about fans, but he had an open door policy with high school coaches.  It must be true.  I read it on Hogville.

Then pretty much all of HOGVILLE should be welcomed, cause we all coaches here!

[bphi11ips]

You assume s/he has a wife...

And that she lets him sleep in her bed.

[clutch]

Not sure about fans, but he had an open door policy with high school coaches.  It must be true.  I read it on Hogville.

I'll know soon. I'm going to test that policy out.

[bphi11ips]

https://twitter.com/IThrowFootballs/status/938198843702808578

Love Rafe Peavey because the kid loves the Hogs.

[bphi11ips]

Venables has family living in Oklahoma which includes his parents and he wants to get back closer to them. Though I still say it's a long shot, it's still within the realm of possibility that he could come to Arkansas as DC and assistant HC.

I'll bet his parents enjoy watching their grandkids play. 

[sechog]

If it IS Venerables,we may not hear anything till January

He said it would be a hire worth waiting for!

[Hoggish1]

Petrino being loved is what got him fired.

Excellent point. 

[nwahogs]

About the same odds you are just pissing in the wind about knowing what's going to happeN.

The first offer goes to Venables, for a substantial raise. I ask again. What if he comes?

I've got no clue whatsoever. But it's an educated guess. Just like it was an educated guess that Gruden and gus weren't coming. I am just playing the odds

[Hoggish1]

We will pay upwards of 2 million for a DC. 2.5 million if it was Venables. It this guy gets a stout DC who can recruit.

In 2 to 3 years, this team will be down right dangerous.

PRJ

Good words to read.  I like dangerous—to the rest of the SEC!

[Hoggish1]

Cool.  It doesn't have to be Venables.  He could bring in somebody who is young and out to prove himself.

Venables is 46.  I think that's young.

[Hoggish1]

I'm having a hard time understanding why he would do that.. he's set, his kid's coming and any money we offer, Clemson is likely to match..

PRJ said they would go 2.5 mil. for Venables.  I've heard that elsewhere, too.  As far as I know there is nobody making that as a DC in America.