Riddle me this....

[jkstock04]

I have never in 12 years on this board called for anyone to be banned, but if Gus did not sign an extension but HyperDrive came on here and claimed to have definite, first hand information that he did I'm not sure why the administrators would allow him to stay.  Why would we want to put up with fans of other teams coming on here and lying just to yank our chains?

That guy is an idiot...he couldn't even give details on how much $$$ and length the extension was. You would think 1st hand info would include that.

[hogcods8]

Gus coaching tomorrow. Norvell coaching tomorrow. Kiffin coaching tomorrow...Hell, Brent Venables coaching tomorrow....

We still don't have a coach... recruiting is needed....

Chad Morris isn't coaching tomorrow. If he was the dude, what is the hold up. He could have been hired the next day after his interview and already been rolling.

Gus, Gus, Gus. Beats around the bush when asked questions about leaving. We got Arkansas media hollering about an extension. An extension is in front of him. I can tell you Auburn was presented with a 7 mil a year...and they laughed. They have no AD, well Jacobs, but he ain't cutting deals...left hand doing this. Right hand doing that. There is no one captaining the ship so to speak. They think Gus isn't responsible for their success. They think Lindsey and Steele are the brains. Gus knows this is his shot with a program he thought back in 2005 he could take to unseen fortune.

And then there is Lane. My man. Practically asked for the job on the tranny Travis show earlier in the week. Brings the swag. The boys love him and want to play for him. He is a smartass. He is a troll. He beats to a different drum. He is an offensive genius. He has a chip on his shoulder the size of Alabama for Nick Saban. Nick Saban. That dude is at the top and Lane wants to knock him off. He is absolutely perfect for this job. He honestly should have been candidate 1, 1A, 1B and candidate 2. We still don't have a permanent AD yet..the interim one adores Lane Kiffin. 

If Gus says no, he is the only logical choice. In fact, for this program Lane should be the only logical choice.

PRJ

You're way off base with all this baloney. No body wants to hire Kiffin. We will get Mike Norvell tomorrow. Period.

[Sivad]

PRJ say right.
We need Lane Kiffin.

[SooieGeneris]

Whoever it is, can we please not call the hogs at the presser?  It always feels a bit uncomfortable.

I would kind of agree, watching the Dana Altman presser was the worst. He would have been doomed here after saying: "I don't know what my friends in Omaha are thinking" unless the program had excelled right away.

However, there wouldn't be much of a reaction at FAU if Kiffin did the Hog Call.

At Aubarn, there will be an EPIC MELTDOWN if Gus does, like the one at ESPN after Petrino did it, even if they do think Lindsey and Steele are the brains behind the operation.

Kiffin would be a lot more fun of course, but Gus on the field is a cold-hearted killer while Kiffin is kind of a fratboy goofball..

If we can't get Gus, go to Norvell I say, then Kiffin.

[Science Fiction Greg]

That guy is an idiot...he couldn't even give details on how much $$$ and length the extension was. You would think 1st hand info would include that.

He was yanking everyone's chain.  He copied a rumor from another board to another of their boards, then here, then bragged about doing it over there.  Then claimed he didn't copy it from another board here and couldn't give any details or back anything up.  FOS.

[Arkansas Fan]

Would love to see Kiffin go against Jimbo when we play A&M, against Gus when we play 'Barn, and Saban with Bammer. Dude would make it fun.

Kiffin would only make it fun on twitter, that's it.

[RedBird5]

I have never in 12 years on this board called for anyone to be banned, but if Gus did not sign an extension but HyperDrive came on here and claimed to have definite, first hand information that he did I'm not sure why the administrators would allow him to stay.  Why would we want to put up with fans of other teams coming on here and lying just to yank our chains?

Imagine if they banned everyone who claimed "to have definite, first hand information". We'd have nobody here.  Honestly, it's laughable that anyone believes any of the stuff they read on here.  Sure is funny that people pretend to know and others buy it.  I get more laughs here than watching Raw.....Eddie Murphy, not wrestling

[OneTuskOverTheLine™]

Ok say Gus stays in Auburn , does the person making the final decision on whom the coach will be , are they leaning towards Memphis or Boca ?

If Gus falls through, just head to Florida in general.. Norvell will be coaching Memphis there in their championship too.

[Dwight_K_Shrute]

A big problem is getting the young fans to care about the Hogs. I'm not just talking students but the under 30 crowd. There are a ton of young professionals in NWA making good money. They haven't seen entertaining football on a consistent basis since 2011.  Foghorn Leghorn may not get Kiffin but the kids do. You want them back at games going ape sh** crazy. Hire Lane Kiffin

[HogRockCafe]

Gragg AD/Strong HC. Book it.

[Großer Kriegschwein]

Imagine if they banned everyone who claimed "to have definite, first hand information". We'd have nobody here.  Honestly, it's laughable that anyone believes any of the stuff they read on here.  Sure is funny that people pretend to know and others buy it.  I get more laughs here than watching Raw.....Eddie Murphy, not wrestling

First hand information is rarely ever available during a coaching search.

[HogT]

Gus coaching tomorrow. Norvell coaching tomorrow. Kiffin coaching tomorrow...Hell, Brent Venables coaching tomorrow....

We still don't have a coach... recruiting is needed....

Chad Morris isn't coaching tomorrow. If he was the dude, what is the hold up. He could have been hired the next day after his interview and already been rolling.

Gus, Gus, Gus. Beats around the bush when asked questions about leaving. We got Arkansas media hollering about an extension. An extension is in front of him. I can tell you Auburn was presented with a 7 mil a year...and they laughed. They have no AD, well Jacobs, but he ain't cutting deals...left hand doing this. Right hand doing that. There is no one captaining the ship so to speak. They think Gus isn't responsible for their success. They think Lindsey and Steele are the brains. Gus knows this is his shot with a program he thought back in 2005 he could take to unseen fortune.

And then there is Lane. My man. Practically asked for the job on the tranny Travis show earlier in the week. Brings the swag. The boys love him and want to play for him. He is a smartass. He is a troll. He beats to a different drum. He is an offensive genius. He has a chip on his shoulder the size of Alabama for Nick Saban. Nick Saban. That dude is at the top and Lane wants to knock him off. He is absolutely perfect for this job. He honestly should have been candidate 1, 1A, 1B and candidate 2. We still don't have a permanent AD yet..the interim one adores Lane Kiffin. 

If Gus says no, he is the only logical choice. In fact, for this program Lane should be the only logical choice.

PRJ

If I could give I would kiss you right now. Absolutely spot on. Bring the Train. +1

[jgcat4]

I've never wanted Gus. I wasn't a fan when he was OC here and I'm not a fan now. There is always too much drama surrounding him. It's like being in your 40's and trying to date a 20something. I've been a Norvell guy for a long time. Having said that, my problem with Kiffin was never coaching or recruiting ability it was always maturity. I think Saban and a divorce fixed most of that. I would love Kiffin. His social media presence is great, he'd live in Saban's Head and he'd want to beat him like no other. His offense is awesome and he can recruit. He is charasmatic and you can't teach that. I'm on the Lane 🚂

[WPS007]

All Aboard the Train

[Tony Perkis]

I've never wanted Gus. I wasn't a fan when he was OC here and I'm not a fan now. There is always too much drama surrounding him. It's like being in your 40's and trying to date a 20something. I've been a Norvell guy for a long time. Having said that, my problem with Kiffin was never coaching or recruiting ability it was always maturity. I think Saban and a divorce fixed most of that. I would love Kiffin. His social media presence is great, he'd live in Saban's Head and he'd want to beat him like no other. His offense is awesome and he can recruit. He is charasmatic and you can't teach that. I'm on the Lane 🚂

I'm all aboard too, if Gus falls through.

[007 License To Squeal]

Gus
Kiffin
Novell

In that order.....no Morris

[PharmacistHog]

Gus
Kiffin
Novell

In that order.....no Morris

Oh hell, you better edit that before hell raineth down on you.

[MuskogeeHogFan]

At which P-5 school that Kiffin has been a HC, has he produced more, with lesser recruiting classes like we get at Arkansas? I mean, even if he were able to improve our recruiting from an average of #25 to #20?

Answer: None

It's the same with Gus. Morris nor Norvell has proven that they can sustain success as a HC at the G-5 level, let alone the P-5 level and let alone the SEC level.

A lot of you younger guys like Kiffin because he is a brash, smart-ass that Trolls people on Twitter. I'm not sure any of that contributes to being a good football coach. He's ambitious, which is good, but it is also bad because even if he should bring us better success (big if) the first time he gets an offer to a bigger program, he will be gone. And before you say to tie him down with a big buy out, just remember that he has to agree to that and because he is ambitious, I doubt that he would. And as soon as he left, he would be trolling us on twitter because he has no loyalty to Arkansas. Want to go through this whole mess again in 3 years? Hire Kiffin.

[parallaxpig]

Ok say Gus stays in Auburn , does the person making the final decision on whom the coach will be , are they leaning towards Memphis or Boca ?

IF not Memphis head to Pullman.......

[Rudy Baylor]

And then there is Lane. My man. Practically asked for the job on the tranny Travis show earlier in the week. Brings the swag. The boys love him and want to play for him. He is a smartass. He is a troll. He beats to a different drum. He is an offensive genius. He has a chip on his shoulder the size of Alabama for Nick Saban. Nick Saban. That dude is at the top and Lane wants to knock him off. He is absolutely perfect for this job. He honestly should have been candidate 1, 1A, 1B and candidate 2. We still don't have a permanent AD yet..the interim one adores Lane Kiffin. 

If Gus says no, he is the only logical choice. In fact, for this program Lane should be the only logical choice.

PRJ

amen

[PharmacistHog]

At which P-5 school that Kiffin has been a HC, has he produced more, with lesser recruiting classes like we get at Arkansas? I mean, even if he were able to improve our recruiting from an average of #25 to #20?

Answer: None

It's the same with Gus. Morris nor Norvell has proven that they can sustain success as a HC at the G-5 level, let alone the P-5 level and let alone the SEC level.

A lot of you younger guys like Kiffin because he is a brash, smart-ass that Trolls people on Twitter. I'm not sure any of that contributes to being a good football coach. He's ambitious, which is good, but it is also bad because even if he should bring us better success (big if) the first time he gets an offer to a bigger program, he will be gone. And before you say to tie him down with a big buy out, just remember that he has to agree to that and because he is ambitious, I doubt that he would. And as soon as he left, he would be trolling us on twitter because he has no loyalty to Arkansas. Want to go through this whole mess again in 3 years? Hire Kiffin.

Hire venables

[Captain Morgan]

You're way off base with all this baloney. No body wants to hire Kiffin. We will get Mike Norvell tomorrow. Period.

Plenty on here would be just fine with the Lane Train. You just prefer to not have him because you don't like his personality.

[MuskogeeHogFan]

Hire venables

He hasn't proven that he can do more with less in recruiting either. He had top 10 classes while at OU, top 15 at Clemson. I like Venables, but we better hire a guy who can produce more from less.

[rljjr]

You're way off base with all this baloney. No body wants to hire Kiffin. We will get Mike Norvell tomorrow. Period.

I'd take Kiffin over Gus. What are you talking about?

[online-with-swine]

He hasn't proven that he can do more with less in recruiting either. He had top 10 classes while at OU, top 15 at Clemson. I like Venables, but we better hire a guy who can produce more from less.

Or hire someone who can get the "more" here to work with.

[Jonbo]

...Someone made mention Kiffin didn't impress on his interview...came off as arrogant and a smart ass and rubbed couple people wrong way. You hear anything about this?

Oh, Lord, the all-influential interview!! GAAAHH!

[duckman]

Gus
Kiffin
Novell

In that order.....no Morris

Kiffin
Gus
Norvell

In that order.....No Morris

^^^ better ^^^

[PharmacistHog]

Or hire someone who can get the "more" here to work with.

This right here

[Rudy Baylor]

Kiffin
Gus
Norvell

In that order.....No Morris

^^^ better ^^^

you forgot someone

[duckman]

Is that a pic of Pokey?

[HardCore]

Gragg AD/Strong HC. Book it.

Gragg.....yes.  Strong.......hell no!

[MuskogeeHogFan]

Or hire someone who can get the "more" here to work with.

Which Arkansas HC (since joining the SEC) has given us a string of top 15 recruiting classes? That is what it will take. Even Petrino wasn't going to be able to sustain 10 and 11 win seasons every year. Petrino = Gus = Leach  There isn't anyone who has been listed that is suddenly going to catapult us into the kind of recruiting classes that we need to compete for the West. Thus, need a guy who can do more, with less.

[hassettsportsman]

Super informant Tippster, the squirrel mangler, heard at the Canine Spa...that Gus was offered 8mil per year for 8yrs to rebirth the Hogs.  He didn't reveal how much Norvell, or Penny Lane have been tempted with?  Of the three, what kind of dogs do they have..in this hunt?

[USChog]

Was watching the Pac 12 title game last night (Fight On!), and even Blacledge and Nessler were talking about Chad Morris and the FSU opening. I thought this must be bizzaro world or we are all totally over looking something about him

[Al Boarland]

Or hire someone who can get the "more" here to work with.

No realistic choice with that kind of cachet.

[online-with-swine]

Which Arkansas HC (since joining the SEC) has given us a string of top 15 recruiting classes? That is what it will take. Even Petrino wasn't going to be able to sustain 10 and 11 win seasons every year. Petrino = Gus = Leach  There isn't anyone who has been listed that is suddenly going to catapult us into the kind of recruiting classes that we need to compete for the West. Thus, need a guy who can do more, with less.

But have we ever hired a head coach who was known as a recruiter?  Kiffin would be that guy.  But, Norvell may be a little of both, recruiter and a schemer.

[Boardon Hamsay]

You're way off base with all this baloney. No body wants to hire Kiffin. We will get Mike Norvell tomorrow. Period.

Strong words yet substance is a remote island you haven't found.  Content is lacking too.  I did like the way you put "period" in there too. Did you stamp your foot on the floor when you typed that or have to breathe a little deeper?

[MuskogeeHogFan]

But have we ever hired a head coach who was known as a recruiter?  Kiffin would be that guy.  But, Norvell may be a little of both, recruiter and a schemer.

Kiffin couldn't get it done at USC where he had an immense amount of talent. The longer he was there, the worse it became. Norvell is just finishing his second year ever as a HC, at the G-5 level. He hasn't even had the time to prove that he can sustain success at the G-5 level let alone at the P-5 in the SEC West. I'm not a fan of anyone who needs training wheels at the P-5 level. I just don't believe that is who we need.

[Boardon Hamsay]

you forgot someone

Probably one of the greatest images of Hogville makes it's triumphant return!

[duckman]

Probably one of the greatest images of Hogville makes it's triumphant return!

How did I miss that pic?  First time I've seen it...

[PharmacistHog]

Kiffin couldn't get it done at USC where he had an immense amount of talent. The longer he was there, the worse it became. Norvell is just finishing his second year ever as a HC, at the G-5 level. He hasn't even had the time to prove that he can sustain success at the G-5 level let alone at the P-5 in the SEC West. I'm not a fan of anyone who needs training wheels at the P-5 level. I just don't believe that is who we need.

Kiffin is definitely a risk, but the USC argument is a bad one, in my opinion.

[duckman]

Kiffin is definitely a risk, but the USC argument is a bad one, in my opinion.

This...

[MuskogeeHogFan]

Kiffin is definitely a risk, but the USC argument is a bad one, in my opinion.

Even with NCAA scholarship penalties, they had more talent on board than we did. That may have created depth issues, but they still had plenty of talent.

[jrulz83]

Kiffin is the best hire if he wants to be here and is available.

Gus: we don't need the baggage and cult following

Norvell: serious doubts about him being successful here for me. Also, there's another cult following developing with him. We don't need that.

Morris: not a bad hire, but not a good one either. Just meh, we don't need meh.

Leach: insane, has flirted with every job available this year (but Kiffin is the one that will jump ship on us) and sued his last two (2) employers. No thanks.

The only issues with Kiffin I've heard is job hopping and too much Twitter mouthing.

To the latter, Arkansas needs swagger right now. We are beat down. Kiffin brings that instantly. I saw where on Finebaum an expert graded him as a "higher grade Bobby Petrino." Anybody think we don't need that?

Now to the former, the acrimonious job hopping is way overblown. He was fired in a ridiculous way by Pat Haden, he intended to make a spectacle of it. Who coached the Raiders around the time period that Kiffin was there and wasn't a disaster? Think it might be more to do with Al Davis drafting JaMarcus Russell among other brilliant decisions?

The only real concern I have with Kiffin is does the recruiting translate to Arkansas and if it doesn't can he figure out how to win anyway?

[nwahogs]

Even with NCAA scholarship penalties, they had more talent on board than we did. That may have created depth issues, but they still had plenty of talent.

Would you agree that coaches could/should get better with experience and working with other great coaches?

[PharmacistHog]

Even with NCAA scholarship penalties, they had more talent on board than we did. That may have created depth issues, but they still had plenty of talent.

Thats right, they had some talent and he had one really good year, the next year it started downhill (when the recruiting and depth issues were catching up). Kiffin was fired because he had a really good year and THEN the bad year. He set the bar too high for himself I guess.

[Captain Morgan]

Sounds like to me people are more worrying about Kiffin's personality than if the man can coach or not.

[duckman]

He is the best fit for our current situation and it isn't close...

[travelinhog]

At which P-5 school that Kiffin has been a HC, has he produced more, with lesser recruiting classes like we get at Arkansas? I mean, even if he were able to improve our recruiting from an average of #25 to #20?

Answer: None

Kiffin's 2009 recruiting class was 8th in the entire country. Saban hired him as his offensive coordinator. Kiffin turned TN from a loser to a winner in one season, just like he has done at FAU. In the last 30 years, the greatest Razorback seasons have been with coaches who went from NFL head coaching jobs back to college head coaching jobs (Holtz & Petrino) records in the last  All of these facts indicate that Kiffin will be successful at Arkansas.


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[Chief Mac]

I've never wanted Gus. I wasn't a fan when he was OC here and I'm not a fan now. There is always too much drama surrounding him. It's like being in your 40's and trying to date a 20something. I've been a Norvell guy for a long time. Having said that, my problem with Kiffin was never coaching or recruiting ability it was always maturity. I think Saban and a divorce fixed most of that. I would love Kiffin. His social media presence is great, he'd live in Saban's Head and he'd want to beat him like no other. His offense is awesome and he can recruit. He is charasmatic and you can't teach that. I'm on the Lane 🚂

Agreed on Kiffin