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cbhawg03

Some Picks I seen on ESPN

Juvenile Turf: The Europeans have dominated this race, as they should. After all, it was created for them. And again they look formidable here at Santa Anita. It wouldn't be a surprise at all if they sweep the top spots, starting perhaps with Hootenanny. But he at least has American roots. He began his career at Keeneland and is trained by Wesley Ward, but the colt has been racing in Europe since June, when he impressively won the Windsor Castle Stakes at Ascot. That was run on a five-furlong straightaway, and after flashing speed and settling, he finished with explosive acceleration to draw clear from 23 rivals. More recently, in France, Hootenanny ran second on soft turf in the prestigious Prix Morny, less than a length behind one of the more highly rated European juveniles, The Wow Signal. Interestingly, Frankie Dettori, who rode The Wow Signal in France, will be on Hootenanny at Santa Anita. The one-mile distance is something of a question for him since he hasn't raced beyond three-quarters of a mile, but Hootenanny is fast and talented; and on the firm turf here, he'll prove hard to run down. Ward seems quite confident. Aktabantay already has raced six times, finishing first or second in five of those races while facing some of Europe's better youngsters. In the Grand Criterium, he encountered traffic problems, dropped back but then finished with good energy. Commemorative, a winner of consecutive races, is already 25-1 in the futures, or ante-post betting, for next year's English Derby; he should get involved late. War Envoy is another highly regarded invader from the stable of trainer Aidan O'Brien, who won this race in 2011 and 2012 and finished second last year with Giovanni Boldini. Of the Americans, Luck of the Kitten has looked good here, the New York contingent could make some noise and Danny Boy has impressed.

1. Hootenanny
2. Aktabantay Scratch
3. Commemorative
4. War Envoy

Dirt Mile: The race is not always to the swift, nor the battle to the strong, but that's the way ya gotta bet, according to some Damon Runyon character who probably cashed a ticket last year on Goldencents in the Dirt Mile. The same character is preparing to cash again, and he probably will. Quite simply, Goldencents is the fastest horse, and this is, after all, a race. On last year's speed-biased surface, he dominated, even from his No. 11 post position. This new Santa Anita surface doesn't appear to be so kind or generous or helpful to speed as last year's, but for Goldencents it probably won't have to be. He has drawn No. 1 this year, and from there he'll simply go. Nobody else in here is quite as quick. Fed Biz appears to be the biggest threat. But, then again, he poured everything he had into his effort to beat Shared Belief in the Awesome Again. How much remains? Fed Biz typically has followed his best efforts with something less, and it wouldn't be a surprise if he regresses here, especially since he drew poorly. Only once in his career has he rallied from farther back than second to win, and that happened at Del Mar, over a synthetic surface he loves; and Friday, with three speedsters drawn inside of him, Fed Biz could be as far back as fourth early. Or, if sent, he could be done early. Pants On Fire has sufficient speed to stalk, and he appears to be in the best form of his career. Tapiture, who might win the award for the most beautiful horse in the Breeders' Cup, if there were such a thing, has taken the step forward that 3-year-olds often take this time of year, and the feeling here is that a mile just might turn out to be his best distance. But on this surface, without a speed duel on the front, he could be at something of a disadvantage. Carve is intriguing: He has given two of his better efforts at this distance, albeit around one turn, and he has sufficient speed to be close early. He could enjoy a perfect, ground-saving, stalking trip. And for the extra-long shot, look at Big Bane Theory. He never has raced on dirt, but he looks like a monster, and he's training like a boxer who's looking forward to knocking out somebody.

1. Goldencents
2. Pants On Fire
3. Tapiture
4. Carve

Juvenile Fillies Turf: The Europeans have won this race each of the past two years here at Santa Anita, but is the group here as strong? In England, Qualify is 25-1 in the futures, or ante-post, wagering for the 1000 Guineas, and her recent victory at The Curragh in Ireland suggests she's improving, but she has drawn the extreme outside. Osaila comes out of a solid win at Newmarket, but she's stretching out and never has raced around a turn. If these invaders aren't quite as strong as the fillies that came here in 2013 and 2012, then Sunset Glow, another world traveler from Wesley Ward's barn, could represent the culmination of a huge day for the stable. She finished second at Ascot in June behind one of Europe's best fillies. Since coming here, Sunset Glow has won two stakes on synthetic surfaces but is said to be at her best on turf. Lady Eli is unbeaten in two races, including the Miss Grillo Stakes. Hall of Fame jockey Gary Stevens returns on Sivoliere, an Irish filly who has been with trainer Chad Brown since September. Lady Zuzu and Rainha Da Bateria has been impressive here.

1. Sunset Glow
2. Qualify
3. Osaila
4. Lady Zuzu

Distaff: Can anybody other than Untapable or Close Hatches win this? Yes, of course, but it would seem unlikely unless the surface reverts to an extreme speed bias. Close Hatches and Untapable are sensational fillies, and their meeting could result in a memorable showdown. Rather than stay at home in New York for the Beldame, Close Hatches traveled to Kentucky for the Spinster, where she ran poorly in preparation for this. But she was unbeaten this season before going to Keeneland, and she has finished first or second in 11 of her 13 races, the only exceptions being her two races in Kentucky, the Oaks and the Spinster. She's in the hands of a masterful horseman, and Close Hatches should return to form here. Untapable didn't win her most recent outing, the Cotillion, as easily as many expected, but she had been given some time off and was rallying on a very speed-biased surface that day at Parx. She has been among the more impressive horses in her Breeders' Cup preparations here at Santa Anita and appears ready for a top effort. Tiz Midnight should zip to the early lead, followed closely by Iotapa. Untapable drew well and could force Close Hatches to race wide in the first turn, but they won't be far behind. Don't Tell Sophia, an admirably consistent mare, always comes charging and will no doubt make a bid in the lane. L'Amour de Ma Vie, a lovely gray mare from Europe, is intriguing. And if you're looking for an extra-long shot to complete exotics, Unbridled Forever might be worthy of inclusion. She has been training very sharply here.

1. Untapable
2. Close Hatches
3. Tiz Midnight
4. Don't Tell Sophia

cbhawg03

Here are some collectibles from this year's Breeders' Cup weekend.

There's a grass horse named Lawn Ranger.

Lots of horses are looking at two-month layoffs.

Some horses are looking at two-week layoffs.

Dank has been off since June.

Sprint contender Indianapolis recently defeated a field containing three other horses.

Some European horses defeated fields of 23 horses.

In the Dirt Mile, Handsome Mike is 3-30.

Close Hatches was out of the money as a 20-cent favorite versus five other horses.

Numerous contenders from New York haven't been much farther west than Central Park.

A few horses are extremely predictable when it comes to almost shocking displays of raw speed. One is Obviously in the Mile on the turf; another is Bayern in the Classic. These horses will run as fast as they can for as long as they can, get uncontested early leads and sail home victoriously or walk the final 100 yards. I have found peace of mind in putting horses like this on top in win-only wagers then forgetting them.

In the Distaff, this will be Belle Gallantey's 44th race.

Valiant Emilia, from Peru, has 11 victories in 23 races and has won $81,000, which comes out to seven grand and change per win.

In the Sprint, Fast Anna is a colt.

Friday's Picks

Juvenile Turf
1. Hootenanny
2. Imperia
3. Conquest Typhoon
4. Aktabantay

Dirt Mile
1. Goldencents
2. Fed Biz
3. Pants On Fire
4. Golden Ticket

Juvenile Fillies Turf
1. Lady Eli
2. Sunset Glow
3. Osaila
4. Lady Zuzu

Distaff
1. Untapable
2. Close Hatches
3. Don't Tell Sophia
4. Iotapa

 

jdelo77

Quote from: kingoftherapids on October 31, 2014, 09:34:33 am
Holy cow jdelo we have a very similar pick 4. i have

race 6: 4,5,7 / 8,9 / 2,3,4,14 / 3,7,10,11.

call me crazy for not including goldencents. i like him, but everyone will have him.  but i should throw him in just since this is the breeders cup... pick 4s pay well no matter if you have two favorite hit out of the 4

Hey maybe we both hit !!!

Damnit ! I had $10 to show on conquest typhoon there ...

jdelo77

$5 show on carve here , I like the stat that every time they turn him back in distance he hits the board ....

jdelo77

Don't tell Sophia was a $1000 dollar purchase !!! ??? Wow ...

jdelo77

Hit the tri in both the juvenile fillies turf and the distaff twice ....decent day

jdelo77

November 01, 2014, 12:12:35 pm #56 Last Edit: November 01, 2014, 12:22:41 pm by jdelo77
Saturday plays

race 4
EXT box - 2/12
tri- 2,12 wt 2,4,8,12 wt 2,12,4,8
super box 2,12,4,8

race 5
tri box 3,5,10
super box 3,4,5,10

race 6
ex 7 Wt 1,3,5,6

jdelo77

race 7
I am clueless here...1,3,5,11,12,14 ????

race 8
12,9 BIG ext box

race 9
EXT 12 WT 1,4,7,9.11

race 10
I love Rich Tapestry here..

jdelo77

race 11
Ext 5 WT 2,4,7,9,13

Classic
call me crazy but I like Chrome here , Shared belief might beat him but, he will earn it..
6.13 EXT box
2,9 small ext box
ext 6,13 WT 2,5,6,8,9,11,13

cbhawg03

If speed is going to hold, then Take Charge Brandi could upset the exotics here in the Juvy Fillies

cbhawg03

Damn***** I didn't have the balls to pull the trigger

ghostzapper

Nonetheless, Nice handicapping.  Beyer said this was the longshot race. 

ghostzapper

Rain last night. Speed bias may indeed be at play.

 

cbhawg03

Playing Stontastic here in the F & M Sprint

yraciv

I'm on Stonetastic as well.

jdelo77

I just checked this ( at a wedding ) wow ! Is it speed on the front end ? Or Just speed in generał ?

yraciv

Give me an exacta box on the 11,12, & 14 in Race 7.

songofthesword

getting murdered. just unloaded on no nay never. thought i had it

jdelo77

The front runner race at SA will prove to be a good race , I bet calculator will come back to win next out ...

mckinneyhog5

Going to take a shot with Moreno in the classic...$50 to win.
Quote from: mckinneyhog5 on April 07, 2019, 10:29:55 pmGuys, we have hired the BEST coach that we could have hired. Musselman is gonna rock it here like we haven't seen since the early 90's. Just sit back and watch it unfold! We WILL be a nationally recognized program again soon.

mckinneyhog5

Quote from: mckinneyhog5 on November 01, 2014, 06:59:47 pm
Going to take a shot with Moreno in the classic...$50 to win.
Roughed up from the get go...Would have like to have seen what he could have done alone on the lead like Bayren.
Quote from: mckinneyhog5 on April 07, 2019, 10:29:55 pmGuys, we have hired the BEST coach that we could have hired. Musselman is gonna rock it here like we haven't seen since the early 90's. Just sit back and watch it unfold! We WILL be a nationally recognized program again soon.

yraciv

I lucked into having a $20 win ticket on Bayern in the classic.  Only thing I hit all day, but it brought me above even on the day.