Black Caviar Breeding

[cbhawg03]

Frankel and Animal Kingdom are out as choices for this year. They will not breed to a 1st timer.

Moody said the list is down to 6, with 5 being in Australia and 1 is elsewhere, but would not say where.

[GoHogs1091]

I wonder who will be the "1 elsewhere."  Perhaps, it will be to Kentucky and to Awesome Again.

Awesome Again is currently the best Sire in the world.  He is probably the best Sire since Storm Cat.  It is simply amazing the quality/earning numbers being produced by Awesome Again.

Awesome Again is the Sire of 13 G1 winners, 7 Millionaires, 4 Breeders' Cup Champions, 5 Multi-Millionaires, & 3 earners of over $3 million. 

No other active stallion has sired more Breeders' Cup Champions, Multi-Millionaires, or $3 Million Earners than Awesome Again. 

Here are the Top Runners sired by Awesome Again.

GAME ON DUDE - $4,702,158
(dam by Devil His Due)
1st Santa Anita H. G1 twice (10F, Dirt)
1st Hollywood Gold Cup G1 (10F, AW)
1st Goodwood S. G1 (9F, Dirt)
1st Awesome Again S. G1 (9F, Dirt)
2nd Breeders' Cup Classic G1 (10F, Dirt), etc.

GHOSTZAPPER - $3,446,120
(dam by Relaunch)
Horse of the Year, Champion Older Male in U. S.
Inducted into Hall of Fame - 2012
1st Breeders' Cup Classic G1 (10F, Dirt)
1st Metropolitan H. G1 (8F, Dirt)
1st Woodward S. G1 (9F, Dirt)
1st Vosburgh S. G1 (6.5F, Dirt)
1st Tom Fool H. G2 (7F, Dirt)
1st Philip H. Iselin BC H. G3 (9F, Dirt)

GINGER PUNCH - $3,065,603
(dam by Bold Revenue)   
Champion Older Mare in U. S
1st Breeders' Cup Distaff G1 (9F, Dirt)
1st Ogden Phipps H. G1 (8.5F, Dirt)
1st Personal Ensign S. G1 (10F, Dirt)
1st Go For Wand H. G1 (twice) (8.5F, Dirt)
1st Ruffian H. G1, (9F, Dirt), etc.

AWESOME GEM - $2,881,370
(dam by Pentelicus)
1st Hollywood Gold Cup G1 (10F, AW)
1st Hawthorne Gold Cup G2 (10F, Dirt)
1st San Fernando BC S. G2 (8.5F, Dirt)
1st Lone Star Park H. G3 (8.5F, Dirt)
1st Longacres Mile G3 (8F, Dirt)
1st Berkeley H. G3 (8.5F, AW)
2nd Pacific Classic H. G1 (10F, AW)
2nd Goodwood H. G1 (9F, AW/Dirt) (twice)
2nd Eddie Read H. G1 (9F, Turf)
3rd Breeders' Cup Classic G1 (10F, Dirt), etc.

WILKO - $2,435,133
(dam by Indian Ridge)
1st Breeders' Cup Juvenile G1 (8.5F, Dirt)
2nd Dubai World Cup G1 (10F, Dirt)
3rd Santa Anita Derby G1 (9F, Dirt)
3rd Hollywood Futurity G1, (8.5F, Dirt) etc.

ROUND POND – $1,998,700
(dam by Trempolino)
1st Breeders Cup Distaff G1 (9F, Dirt)
1st Acorn S. G1 (8F, Dirt)
1st Fantasy S. G2, (8.5F, Dirt), etc.

OXBOW - $983,500
(dam by Cee's Tizzy)
1st Preakness S. G1 (9.5F, Dirt)
1st LeComte S. G3 (8.32F, Dirt)

PAYNTER - $952,224
(dam by Cee's Tizzy)
1st Haskell Invitational S. G1 (9F, Dirt)
2nd Belmont Stakes G1 (12F, Dirt)
3rd Derby Trial G3 (8F, Dirt)

TOCCET - $931,387
(dam by Cozzene)
1st Champagne G1 (8.5F, Dirt)
1st Hollywood Futurity G1 (8.5F, Dirt)
1st Remsen G2, (9F, Dirt)
1st Laurel Futurity G3 (8.5F, Dirt), etc.

SPUN SUGAR - $929,171
(dam by Irish Open)
1st Apple Blossom H. G1 (9F, Dirt)
1st Go For Wand H. G1 (9F, Dirt)
1st Black-Eyed Susan S. G2 (9F, Dirt), etc.

SUGAR SHAKE - $500,636
(dam by Skip Trial)
1st Santa Maria H. G1 (8.5F, Dirt)
1st El Encino S. G2 (8.5F, Dirt), etc

DUBAI ESCAPADE - $427,050
(dam by Saratoga Six)
World Record 2YO Filly Purchase ($2,000,000)
1st Ballerina BC S. G1 (7F, Dirt)
1st Madison S. G2 (7F, Dirt),  etc.

DAAHER - $461,384
(dam by Saratoga Six)
1st Cigar Mile G1 (8F, Dirt)
1st Jerome H. G2 (8F, Dirt), etc.

ANEW - $307,513
(dam by Olympio)
1st True North H. G2 (6F, Dirt)

SPACY TRACY - $248,190
(dam by Theatrical)
1st Top Flight S. G2 (8F, Dirt)
1st Justakiss S. (8.5F, Dirt)

SPRINGSIDE - $198,260
(dam by Digression)
1st Demoiselle S. G2 (9F, Dirt)

PERSONAL LEGEND - $744,805
(day by Storm Bird)
1st Turnback the Alarm H. G3 (9F, Dirt)
1st De La Rose S. (8F, Turf)
1st Stage Door Betty H. (8.5F, Dirt)
2nd Personal Ensign G1 (10F, Dirt), etc.

HOTSTUFANTHENSOME – $756,743
(dam by Turkoman)
1st Cliff Hanger S. G3 (8.5F, Turf)
1st Mac Diarmida H. G3 (NCR) (11F, Turf)
1st Elkwood S. (NCR) (8.5F, Turf), etc.

GOLDEN MYSTERY - $540,223
(dam by Saint Ballado)
1st Hurricane Bertie S. G3 (6.5F, Dirt)
1st Sunshine Millions F/M Sprint (6F, Dirt)

TESSA BLUE – $533,100
(dam by Conquistador Cielo)
1st Indiana Oaks G3 (8.5F, Dirt)
1st Inside Information (8.5F, Dirt), etc.

TEMPORARY SAINT - $405,101
(dam by Great Gladiator)
1st Westchester H. G3 (8.5F, Dirt), etc.

RUMOR HAS IT - $303,316
(dam by Time For A Change)
1st Kentucky Cup Turf G3 (12F, Turf), etc.

AWESOME ACT - $296,885
(dam by A. P. Indy)
1st Gotham S. G3 (8.5F, Dirt)
3rd Wood Memorial S. G1 (9F, Dirt)

SNORTER - $242,677
(dam by Meadowlake)
1st Berkeley BC H. G3 (8.5F, Dirt), etc

EVERYDAY HEROES - $240,800
(dam by Dayjur)
1st Hirsch Jacobs S. G3 (6F, Dirt)
1st James B. Moseley (6F, Dirt)
2nd Woody Stephens G2 (7F, Dirt)

AWESOME TIME - $226,450
(dam by Seattle Slew)
1st Leonard Richards G3 (8.5F, Dirt)

AWESOME CHIC - $216,028
(dam by A. P. Indy)
1st Florida Oaks G3 (8.5F, Dirt)
1st Gasparilla S. (7F, Dirt), etc.

AWESOMEMUNDO - $172,120
(dam by Shuailaan)
1st Allaire DuPont Distaff S G3 (8.5F, Dirt)

PINK CHAMPAGNE - $145,957
(dam by Known Fact)
1st Natalma S. G3 (8F, Turf)

SANGAREE - $365,711
(dam by Mari's Book)
1st Joe Hernandez S. (6.5F, AW)
2nd Triple Bend H. G1 (7F, AW)
2nd Californian H. G2 (9F, AW)
2nd Mervyn LeRoy H. G2 (8.5F, AW), etc.

AWESOME I AM - $198,432
(dam by Known Fact)
1st Get Lucky S. (Dirt)
1st Restored Hope S. (8.32F, Dirt)
3rd Gazelle G1 (9F, Dirt), etc.






 

[cbhawg03]

Had Wilko in the BC at Lone Star

[songofthesword]

Awesome Again is currently the best Sire in the world.  He is probably the best Sire since Storm Cat.  It is simply amazing the quality/earning numbers being produced by Awesome Again.

i've heard a lot of stuff on this forum but that takes the cake

the problem with awesome again is 2 fold. first of all his offspring are about as durable as paper bags, i.e ghostzapper who is my fav all time horse but was a fragile as all get out, and more imiportantly he's the most hit and miss sire on earth. he can get you a world class (dirt) horse but that is 1 out of 100. the other 99 are going to be 5-10k claimers.  there are no 50-60k awesome again claimers or awesome again allowance horses they either are graded stakes horses or 5k claimers. and there are a lot more 5k claimers than graded stakes horses

on top of that, he might be the worst turf sire in the hisotry of mankind lol and that's all they run on down there is turf.

frank stronach owns awesome again the man who owns magna and the vast majority of awesome agains offspring are from his own mares, that no one buys at sales, i.e ginger punch was one that RNA'ed for 25k and he said screw it i will keep her


The best stallion in the world right now is probably fasnet rock in Australia whose stud fee is 4x what awesome again's is right now (250k USD). you could make a case for Galileo frankel's sire as well.

the only american sire who could snif that title right now is Barnardini and he's not close, we really don't have any world class stallions right now

that would be too much inbreeding nayway with her being 3x4x4 northern dancer and awesome again being from the northern dancer sire line

she's a tricky mating beucase of her bloodlines she has a siht load of northern dancer up close.

[GoHogs1091]

on top of that, he might be the worst turf sire in the hisotry of mankind lol and that's all they run on down there is turf.

The best stallion in the world right now is probably fasnet rock in Australia whose stud fee is 4x what awesome again's is right now (250k USD). you could make a case for Galileo frankel's sire as well.

Awesome Again sires good Turf Runners.  One of his Progeny, Awesome Gem, was 2nd in the Grade 1 Eddie Read Handicap, which was a 9 Furlong Turf race.  Additionally, Awesome Again sired the following Turf winners on that list I posted.

HOTSTUFANTHENSOME – $756,743
(dam by Turkoman)
1st Cliff Hanger S. G3 (8.5F, Turf)
1st Mac Diarmida H. G3 (NCR) (11F, Turf)
1st Elkwood S. (NCR) (8.5F, Turf), etc.

RUMOR HAS IT - $303,316
(dam by Time For A Change)
1st Kentucky Cup Turf G3 (12F, Turf), etc.

PINK CHAMPAGNE - $145,957
(dam by Known Fact)
1st Natalma S. G3 (8F, Turf)

Therefore, Awesome Again has sired a Turf winner who won at 8 Furlongs, 8.5 Furlongs, 11 Furlongs, and 12 Furlongs.

Awesome Again's Stud Fee has been as high as $150,000 (in 2007).  With the downturn in the U.S. Economy, and the resulting downturn in Stud Fees in the U.S. Thoroughbred Breeding Industry, it can explain why Awesome Again's Stud Fee is currently only $75,000 (which is a bargain).  With Oxbow winning the Preakness, it won't be surprising if Awesome Again's Stud Fee goes up to around $90,000 or $100,000 next year. 

As I mentioned in my post, there is no other active stallion who has sired more Breeders' Cup Champions, Multi-Millionaires, or $3 Million Earners than Awesome Again.

Here is a couple of quotes about Awesome Again.

"...it is the sheer brilliance of his best offspring that ranks (Awesome Again) among the most important and successful contemporary stallions."- John P. Sparkman

"I love training the offspring of Awesome Again. He is a hell of a stallion. He throws a very nice individual. Their soundness goes along way"- leading California trainer Craig Dollase

[songofthesword]

this is what breeders and owners look at when it comes to stats

http://www.bloodhorse.com/horse-racing/thoroughbred-breeding/sire-lists/turf

no one cares about 1 or 2 horses when you sire 120-130 a year.  the odds are, your horse is going to be a pretty avg horse and on avg, awesome again sucks

awesome again is the 125 ranked turf sire in the country right now. that's freaking pathetic.

his leading money earner for the year is a horse named he's a cylone who has won a whopping 32k on the turf this year.

i'm not even saying awesome again isn't a good sire. he's a great sire. he's not the "best int he world" though. to show you how bad of a turf sire he is, he's the third ranked sire in te country overall as you can see below.

lol, his offspring have earned 4.1 million dollars htis year and all but 32k of it have come on dirt lol.

http://www.bloodhorse.com/horse-racing/thoroughbred-breeding/sire-lists/general

he's a good sire. he's not a world class sire. he damn sure isn't a world clas TURF sire and he's not a good fit for BC anyway blood wise. and considering they run their horses in aussie land 2-3 times a month he's too brittle of a sire

[cbhawg03]

Exceed and Excel is who BC will be bred to this year. Thoughts?

[songofthesword]

horse will def be a sprinter.