nate Allen whining about lack of access, pimps ASU

[Chief Mac]

Quite your whining Nate.  All major programs allow similar access.  You were spoiled when Broyles was there and there were leaks of info everywhere.  Now the program is more business like and better....get over it.

http://www.wholehogsports.com/news/2012/mar/17/programs-ask-more-offer-less-20120317/?razorbacks

[RedyorNot]

Posting the article instead of the paysite link would be a nice touch....

[Chief Mac]

Sorry...on my phone

[PorcineSublime]

Posting the article instead of the paysite link would be a nice touch....

He could paraphrase, but you cannot post the full article on here as that is a copyright violation. It will be quickly deleted.

[Chief Mac]

He could paraphrase, but you cannot post the full article on here as that is a copyright violation. It will be quickly deleted.

Very true...I shall paraphrase the article shortly when I get back to my laptop....my bad boys and girls.  Sorry

[DukeOfPork]

Nate was completely worthless when he had access.  He was a Nutt publicist.  I have no use for his "reporting".

[grayhawg]

Hey Nate, move to Jonesboro, UofA Athletics will do fine without you.

[idochog]

Look at most of the dufus media types in this state

A jr high education is all that is needed in this state to get a ink pen or a mic

[Tortfeasor]

He doesn't pimp ASU.  He says the same things about their closed practices.  He bashed them just like he did the U of A.

[Wildhog]

Want to see a summary of the "article" before I bash that fool*.



*for this instance.  He's a total goob.

[OTTER]

Closed practices are the norm these days instead of the exception and for good reason.  Ole Nate just needs to accept it and move on.  The "good ole days" are long gone---thank goodness!

[Chief Mac]

If he writes an article like that he probably deserves a 13 page bashing thread.

Definitely....it had a very "robert shields" feel to it. 

[Chief Mac]

He doesn't pimp ASU.  He says the same things about their closed practices.  He bashed them just like he did the U of A.

I see it as him using the Perkins failure as both an attempt to compare what he sees as similar moves to close unlimited access while at the same time getting to mention ASU's recent success and hiring of Malzahn....he gets to kill two birds with one stone.  Bash UA for making him have to actually work instead of being spoonfed info and push ASU a bit as a subtle jab towards the UA.

[OneTuskOverTheLine™]

Definitely....it had a very "robert shields" feel to it. 

Did he talk about the warm spring breeze as it rustled the papers on a young Frank Broyles clip board in 1964, and how the same warm breeze still flows in and out of the Boston Mountains, albeit with a little added pollution from the urban element that has invaded the virgin hills?

[idochog]

In the words of kristi mahlzan

"Just shut up Nate!"

[Sivad]

I would much rather see a Win than one of Nate's columns.

[Smithian]

Is Nate Allen the idiot who wears Laker jerseys on press row many of the home games?

[Chief Mac]

Is Nate Allen the idiot who wears Laker jerseys on press row many of the home games?

I think that is Otis

[LGHOG]

It's not Otis. It's Nate Allen. Years ago I gave him the nickname "The Riddler". This moron can't write nor can he put a complete sentence together. For him to still be employed he must know or be employed by some serious friends or family. But, his one redeeming quality, is that he can get great laughs out of us who actually read the first few sentences of his columns.

[SDZ_Hog]

Whining about it publically isn't going to help. 

Whatever helps us win.  I admit I am a junky for football news but I'd go without tidbits that could play a role in deciding a W or L. 

[tweet pilot]

I'm surprised anyone noticed the article.  Didn't think anyone except Nate read his "work".  If you have ever seen this dude, you would know why he has limited access to the program.  Wouldn't want him around impressionable young people either.  He always looks like his welfare check bounced. 

[Justifiable Hogicide]

Hey Nate, move to Jonesboro, UofA Athletics will do fine without you.

Plenty of seats available.

[hoghearted]

Plenty of seats available.

ouch

[DoggtownHog]

I read the article. He sounded bitter and is pouting in the paper.
In response to his article; the big money boosters want wins/championships. Not access to practice. that's a media gripe.

[Danny J]

Nate was completely worthless when he had access.  He was a Nutt publicist.  I have no use for his "reporting".

correct....many boosters were also mad for the same reasons and took their money and left. I say screw em....

I don't want all our business(on and off the field) being aired all over the net and other outlets. I don't want boosters constantly hanging around either. We will end up having tOSU type problems. We have worked too hard to get to where we are.

[El Puerco]

Petrino should flat out bounce that guy.

[DeltaBoy]

Allen is punk!

[DukeOfPork]

Petrino should flat out bounce that guy.

"And that's the last question I'll answer without you combing your hair first..."

[ChitownHawg]

Posting the article instead of the paysite link would be a nice touch....

I don't think the Mods want Hogville to have a reputation of ripping off pay sites. If you really want to know what Nate said then pay for the site. For me Nate is not worth paying for. I suspect you feel the same. 

[Inhogswetrust]

Definitely....it had a very "robert shields" feel to it. 

Who is..................?

Oh nevermind.

[razorbackcpa]

Having met this dufus a few times in my years, I can say that yes, he actually is as stupid as his writing suggests. He is to reporting as Houston Nutt was to college football.

[Inhogswetrust]

Having met this dufus a few times in my years, I can say that yes, he actually is as stupid as his writing suggests. He is to reporting as Houston Nutt was to college football.

So how does he type without fingernails?

[Inhogswetrust]

Plenty of seats available.

Cheap!

[razorbackcpa]

So how does he type without fingernails?

Dictation software? 

[soowage]

These so called journalists have had it easy.  It is time to put some hard work and many hours into your work!  Do your homework vs having it laid out for you.  Allowing the media access to everything creates vulnerability and weakness.  Look what it has done to our armed forces trying to fight a war.  I am for no media access!

[PonderinHog]

These so called journalists have had it easy.  It is time to put some hard work and many hours into your work!  Do your homework vs having it laid out for you.  Allowing the media access to everything creates vulnerability and weakness.  Look what it has done to our armed forces trying to fight a war.  I am for no media access!

I kinda like gameday media access.

[El Puerco]

Reminds me of this incident:

"The last thing was pretty odd.  An unnamed reporter came blustering into the stands in front of us yammering "Nazi" this and "Nazis" that. He was very upset that (as is probably the case on a daily basis) some poor team manager doing his job had dared to ask him for his press credentials:  "This whole thing is run like a corporation now....I was here before that kid was born!" and, menacingly "We'll see how this works if they start losing!"....along with another 7 or 8 "Nazi" comments to any other reporters that came within his radius."

Pure Class

[Jack The BN]

Reminds me of this incident:

"The last thing was pretty odd.  An unnamed reporter came blustering into the stands in front of us yammering "Nazi" this and "Nazis" that. He was very upset that (as is probably the case on a daily basis) some poor team manager doing his job had dared to ask him for his press credentials:  "This whole thing is run like a corporation now....I was here before that kid was born!" and, menacingly "We'll see how this works if they start losing!"....along with another 7 or 8 "Nazi" comments to any other reporters that came within his radius."

Pure Class

Sorry dude, in this case you just don't have all the information. There was no "Poor team manager just doing his job" the person was a member of the Media Relations Department. And those people are beyond unprofessional and rude, especially at football. They have 19 year old interns who are very rude to not just Nate, but all members of the media. Guys like Bob Holt, Clay Henry, and Mike Irwin, who have covered the razorbacks for almost 40 years.

Often times these people speak to 65 year old men who are in their own right just doing their jobs, as if they are Children.

It has at times been very much been beyond unprofessional, condescending and downright rude. If you had to deal with people like that every day, you would be upset to. It's judgmental people like you that have "Pure Class".

[jkstock04]

Majority of our veteran media are a disappointment to say the least.   

[Jack The BN]

Then the media members need to take their issue to the AD on how these 19 yr olds talk to them instead of writing garbage like Nate did in the paper

Trust me when I say, he knows.

[Jack The BN]

Majority of our veteran media are a disappointment to say the least.   

So are armchair quarterbacks.

[Chief Mac]

Sorry dude, in this case you just don't have all the information. There was no "Poor team manager just doing his job" the person was a member of the Media Relations Department. And those people are beyond unprofessional and rude, especially at football. They have 19 year old interns who are very rude to not just Nate, but all members of the media. Guys like Bob Holt, Clay Henry, and Mike Irwin, who have covered the razorbacks for almost 40 years.

Often times these people speak to 65 year old men who are in their own right just doing their jobs, as if they are Children.

It has at times been very much been beyond unprofessional, condescending and downright rude. If you had to deal with people like that every day, you would be upset to. It's judgmental people like you that have "Pure Class".

excuse me if I don't feel sympathetic towards a group that did not want to do their job (research, investigative reporting) during the last few years MOTHO was here.  Now they are whining because info isn't spoonfed to them. 

Welcome to the world where you actually have to do your job right in order to glean results.

[Teebow62]

Our team has made it to the 21st Century. Unfortunately, our state media has not.

[(notOM)Rebel123]

I didn't think he was "pimping' ASU at all. Sounded like he was criticizing both coaches for closed practices.
Think someone could trick ol' Nate into wearing a Florida Gators cap to the next presser?

[Hoggish1]

So, we should go back to bad old days?  I don't think so...

[chiefsfan]

He doesn't pimp ASU.  He says the same things about their closed practices.  He bashed them just like he did the U of A.

Thats what I was thinking.  The author said they were pimping ASU, and I was sitting there going "Our parctices are closed too."

I'll tell him the same thing that you guys should.   Other schools close their practices.  While fan support is great, and its fun to have fans out at practices, there are certain things that fans dont need to see, because those fans usually have access to an internet source via cell phone.

ASU has gone to the extreme this year, closed to fans, and the media is not allowed to use a cell phone in their 20 minute bit.  I'm not sure Nate would like that.

[Chief Mac]

I didn't think he was "pimping' ASU at all. Sounded like he was criticizing both coaches for closed practices.
Think someone could trick ol' Nate into wearing a Florida Gators cap to the next presser?

I see it as him using the Perkins failure as both an attempt to compare what he sees as similar moves to close unlimited access while at the same time getting to mention ASU's recent success and hiring of Malzahn....he gets to kill two birds with one stone.  Bash UA for making him have to actually work instead of being spoonfed info and push ASU a bit as a subtle jab towards the UA.

[The Galloping Ghost]

The Op is just trying to gain some Hogville brownie points with the ASU shot.

I've written for years and I read the article in the paper.

Nate isn't very good, honestly, but he was bashing ASU also. 

Programs are being run like they are now, because of the circus that it once was.

If we pay for tickets we get access to a game. If we pay for apparel we get shirts and shorts and such...

Fans don't need to know everything happening inside a program no matter how much they'd like to.

[Chief Mac]

The Op is just trying to gain some Hogville brownie points with the ASU shot.


Programs are being run like they are now, because of the circus that it once was.

If we pay for tickets we get access to a game. If we pay for apparel we get shirts and shorts and such...

Fans don't need to know everything happening inside a program no matter how much they'd like to.

exactly....coaches are hired and paid alot of money to run their programs.  If the coach is doing everything legally/ethically and winning, I don't see where ANYONE has the right to question the amount of access to the team

[Mr. Hog]

Nate who?