So 4 spots left

[Bubba's Bruisers]

agree, Hill goes to the end of the line for jumping ship

Why?

[Tim Harris]

King
Scott or Zuniga (First one to commit)
Hill
Weathersby

[onebadrubi]

agree, Hill goes to the end of the line for jumping ship

No he does not.  We will most likely take one more of that style athlete with ball skills.  He is most likely number 1 and the staff will continue that way until getting a good feel for him on his OV.  Watch the pressure turn up on other players if his OV doesn't give the staff a warm and fuzzy feeling.  He is not getting bumped, unless he seems cold on his OV, in my opinion.

[jgphillips3]

If I'm guessing, I think:

Weathersby
Zuniga
Scott
Hill (or Singleton)

This presumes we don't have someone else who is decommiting, not making grades, etc. 

On the whole, this is the best recruiting job I have ever seen done at the UofA.  We locked up a lot of good talent early, filled with good talent in the middle...slowly...and will finish with 25 solid players.  I don't know if it will be on paper the best class we have ever had, but in terms of balance, skill level, low risk, high quality kids, top to bottom this is an amazing job by our staff. 

[Bubba's Bruisers]

If I'm guessing, I think:

Weathersby
Zuniga
Scott
Hill (or Singleton)

This presumes we don't have someone else who is decommiting, not making grades, etc. 

On the whole, this is the best recruiting job I have ever seen done at the UofA.  We locked up a lot of good talent early, filled with good talent in the middle...slowly...and will finish with 25 solid players.  I don't know if it will be on paper the best class we have ever had, but in terms of balance, skill level, low risk, high quality kids, top to bottom this is an amazing job by our staff. 

These are the 4 I hope we end it with...maybe switch Scott for K. Jackson.  Would be a tremendous finish.  Top 20 and the best and most balanced class, on paper, I've seen since I started following 15 years ago.

[onebadrubi]

If I'm guessing, I think:

Weathersby
Zuniga
Scott
Hill (or Singleton)

This presumes we don't have someone else who is decommiting, not making grades, etc. 

On the whole, this is the best recruiting job I have ever seen done at the UofA.  We locked up a lot of good talent early, filled with good talent in the middle...slowly...and will finish with 25 solid players.  I don't know if it will be on paper the best class we have ever had, but in terms of balance, skill level, low risk, high quality kids, top to bottom this is an amazing job by our staff.

It helps with the huge instate 4* talent we had this year.  We locked up all of them early on, and well everyone knows the story about the 1. 

[Pig in the Pokey]

If I'm guessing, I think:

Weathersby
Zuniga
Scott
Hill (or Singleton)

This presumes we don't have someone else who is decommiting, not making grades, etc. 

On the whole, this is the best recruiting job I have ever seen done at the UofA.  We locked up a lot of good talent early, filled with good talent in the middle...slowly...and will finish with 25 solid players.  I don't know if it will be on paper the best class we have ever had, but in terms of balance, skill level, low risk, high quality kids, top to bottom this is an amazing job by our staff.

Indeed. Think about this. We just signed up an entire jumbo offensive goaline unit line of 4*s. With Weathersby it will be 3 4* TEs, 2 4* Tackles, 2 4* Guards, and a 4* Center. In one class.

[onebadrubi]

These are the 4 I hope we end it with.  Would be a tremendous finish.  Top 20 and the best and most balanced class, on paper, I've seen since I started following 15 years ago.

It's nice to say this two years in a row.  We were all saying the same thing last year.  We hit quality talent at every position across the board, now doing it again for 2 years in a row.  This is a great recruiting effort on behalf of Bielema and his staff. 

[HOGINTENNESSEE]

agree, Hill goes to the end of the line for jumping ship

That's not how it works. Thank goodness

[Pig in the Pokey]

It's nice to say this two years in a row.  We were all saying the same thing last year.  We hit quality talent at every position across the board, now doing it again for 2 years in a row.  This is a great recruiting effort on behalf of Bielema and his staff.

and the clown/coach B hybrid first class was actually pretty salty.

[gmarv]

k j hills visit is still on for the 30th. ?

[gmarv]

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

disregard the ? I saw on another thread the answer .

[jjdlc]

Could reed possibly be an after signing day decision?  Thinking maybe if we gamble on holding open weathersby and KJ, believing we can haul one of the two and gamble on the other spot.  That then would leave us a spot for IF/WHEN reed gets definitely eligible?  Is this even possible to work this way?

Something I was real high on with KJ was special teams.  I think pulley might can help absorb that.  Pulley seems to have a nice thick frame to take the hits and have some real nice speed.  KJ looks like he can be a great receiver, but he seems to me to be a difference maker on special teams from day one, well I'm hoping Pulley's recruitment had some special teams considerations.

I had wondered about that as well, but it really isn't looking like we are going to have a spot left to hold.  Also, from what I've read in the last couple weeks, for Reed to get SEC qualified, it would take not only the spring semester, but both summer semesters.   So you would be looking at early August before we would even know.  Its a bigger risk than CBB and co seem inclined to take.

[hawg1221]

agree, Hill goes to the end of the line for jumping ship

No,no, no. You're thinking from a fan's point of view, which consists of "hear say", rumors, opinions, and "verbage" directed at fans. You have no idea what kind of communication is taking place between Hill, his step-father, and the coaching staff. Very premature to suggest the above statement.

[LJHOG]

I sure hope one of the last four is Weathersby.  The o-line is the engine of the car.  The better the engine, the faster the car.

[tusksincolorado]

Why?

Unfortunately CBB has to set an example....and he may start this year!

If your an in-state, and commit, then de-commit 3 weeks before signing date your at the back of the bus.

[hawg1221]

I sure hope one of the last four is Weathersby.  The o-line is the engine of the car.  The better the engine, the faster the car.

I know there's different parts of a team that's needed to win on a championship level. But if you told me you would give me a team with an offensive line so dominate, you could call run plays all the time and move the ball down the field, I would take that in a heartbeat. And yes, you would be championship material.

[Bubba's Bruisers]

Unfortunately CBB has to set an example....and he may start this year!

If your an in-state, and commit, then de-commit 3 weeks before signing date your at the back of the bus.

Not buying that.  At all.

[tusksincolorado]

Not buying that.  At all.

So you don't think CBB will make an example of KJ for future in-state recruiting?

[Tim Harris]

Unfortunately CBB has to set an example....and he may start this year!

If your an in-state, and commit, then de-commit 3 weeks before signing date your at the back of the bus.

If you ran the team as a fan that makes sense but not if you are the head of a major college program.

Bielema's success, raises, etc... will all be based on wins.  The better players you have the better chance you have a winning.  We will recruit him until the very end.

[davispard]

If you ran the team as a fan that makes sense but not if you are the head of a major college program.

Bielema's success, raises, etc... will all be based on wins.  The better players you have the better chance you have a winning.  We will recruit him until the very end.

A Head Coach, in my opinion, has to able to keep his emotions in check, and to me, no one does that better than CBB.  And he has said over and over ; we'll get the "best" available kids that meet our criteria.  Assuming that KJ meets that definition, then CBB will take him in a heartbeat; because he is an in state kid.  JMO.....

[tusksincolorado]

If you ran the team as a fan that makes sense but not if you are the head of a major college program.

Bielema's success, raises, etc... will all be based on wins.  The better players you have the better chance you have a winning.  We will recruit him until the very end.

So your saying he is that critical to the success of our offensive scheme? More so than a elite DT, elite LB, elite OT, or even a very good WR who is wanting to play for AR?

I just think the line has to be drawn somewhere. CBB is looking for #be uncommon, right?

[Bubba's Bruisers]

So you don't think CBB will make an example of KJ for future in-state recruiting?

No.  Not an elite WR who's arguably the top player in the state.  BB's interest is getting the best players he can...players with character.  Hill is one of those players IMO.

And we don't really know the circumstances.  We don't know what's happening behind the scenes...what the nature of the communications are.  It's why fans have no clue.  It's why fans are fans and not million dollar HC's.

[Bubba's Bruisers]

A Head Coach, in my opinion, has to able to keep his emotions in check, and to me, no one does that better than CBB.  And he has said over and over ; we'll get the "best" available kids that meet our criteria.  Assuming that KJ meets that definition, then CBB will take him in a heartbeat; because he is an in state kid.  JMO.....

Ding
Ding
Ding

[immahog]

agree, Hill goes to the end of the line for jumping ship

Lol child plzz

[Tim Harris]

So your saying he is that critical to the success of our offensive scheme? More so than a elite DT, elite LB, elite OT, or even a very good WR who is wanting to play for AR?

I just think the line has to be drawn somewhere. CBB is looking for #be uncommon, right?

What is the one position everyone has screamed about for 2 years that we needed?  Elite WR.......which KJ is.  He has the offers and ranking to back up being called an elite WR.  No one else we are on can say that.  Him and Weathersby are the top 2 players we are still on.

Again we are fans, we get emotional.  People seem to get even more emotional when they feel an in state recruit has disrespected the program.  None of that matters in recruiting.  As far as everything we have seen KJ hasn't done anything to say we wouldn't still take him.

[onebadrubi]

I sure hope one of the last four is Weathersby.  The o-line is the engine of the car.  The better the engine, the faster the car.

So you're saying we should go to a fast hurry up no huddle.  I see what your hinting at!

[tusksincolorado]

What is the one position everyone has screamed about for 2 years that we needed?  Elite WR.......which KJ is.  He has the offers and ranking to back up being called an elite WR.  No one else we are on can say that.  Him and Weathersby are the top 2 players we are still on.

Again we are fans, we get emotional.  People seem to get even more emotional when they feel an in state recruit has disrespected the program.  None of that matters in recruiting.  As far as everything we have seen KJ hasn't done anything to say we wouldn't still take him.

Not meaning to argue, but the past several years people have been screaming about being played by, and losing, the top in-state recruits to other SEC members. Personally, and from a OUTSIDER'S POV, I believe CBB doesn't play around.

BTW, I want the kid to be a HAWG! Lord knows we need someone to be a punt return specialist on our team!

[The NewEra]

So you don't think CBB will make an example of KJ for future in-state recruiting?

If Coach B were to do this he runs the risk of destroying a relationship with one or more high school coaches in the state. That's not a risk I think he would be willing to take with an in-state player.

[Tim Harris]

If Coach B were to do this he runs the risk of destroying a relationship with one or more high school coaches in the state. That's not a risk I think he would be willing to take with an in-state player.

Apparently making an example out of a 17 year old kid is more important to some.

[The NewEra]

Apparently making an example out of a 17 year old kid is more important to some.

I suspect there are several adults behind the scenes pulling the strings on this, other coaches getting into the mix, etc. I think coach B is fully aware of what's going on and we know this is not his first rodeo. He does a good job at staying even keeled.

[davispard]

I suspect there are several adults behind the scenes pulling the strings on this, other coaches getting into the mix, etc. I think coach B is fully aware of what's going on and we know this is not his first rodeo. He does a good job at staying even keeled.

Well said..

[whosiskid]

The only way that KJ Hill doesn't go to Arkansas is if he doesn't take his official. His pattern has been to like whoever he has most recently visited. I think the single big issue with him is getting reassurance that this will be a good place for a wide receiver to go. Coaches can't afford to be vindictive for kids being wishy washy. Remember that we didn't flip Joe Adams until the very last second. We'll take Hill if he is interested.

I think there is also a chance that they might hold one slot open and not use it. Unless you are really confident that the last four slots are going to people you really, really want, there is a lot to be said about being ready for contingencies. If Reed is confident he is going to pass algebra, we might hold a spot and give it to him if he is able to come, or use it for a last second player who becomes available, like Cam Jefferson. Or at worse you use it next year. Though apparently people at Texas think Reed is going there. Ironic that a school that is academically so much stronger than Arkansas would have more relaxed admission standards for athletes.

I think we take two defensive players if we can get any of the kids we want, and hold two spots for Hill and Weathersby. If either of the last two fall through, we might go for Singleton or another wide receiver, but if Weathersby decides no, then we hold the final spot open.

[Hogarusa]

Dang, its amazing how some of you instantly turn your back on an in state kid who decides to open up his recruitment.  Kind of a losers mentality.  You dont just give up on the #1 in state kid due to some indecision.

[greenie]

I'd love to see this to finish up the class:

KJ Hill/Brandon Singleton
Toby Weathersby
Kendrick Jackson
Jabari Zuniga

No way we don't take KJ Hill if he wants to come.  He's done nothing wrong...just a kid going through the turmoils of a big time decision.  I hate leaving Kylan Johnson out, but I think that all 4 of these guys are most likely significant program contributors. 

[secneahog]

BB sent lunney to KJ's house after he opened up stuff.

What that meeting was about idk. To tell them who their closing on as the OC is my guess.  This staff has worked their butts off to get Hill. I don't think they will give up now.

Watching his dad get on a paid site and trash Hog fans was ridiculous.  But I'm not holding that against kj.

Toby.
Hill.
Zuniga. ...absolute beast. His highlight video shocked me. Hits like Spaight.
Scott or Kendrick jackson.  Love Scotts aggression at the safety spot.

[mccurdy]

No,no, no. You're thinking from a fan's point of view, which consists of "hear say", rumors, opinions, and "verbage" directed at fans. You have no idea what kind of communication is taking place between Hill, his stepfather, and the coaching staff. Very premature to suggest the above statement.

This is so true. When the stepfather  posted on the message board. He mentioned that the fans have no idea what happens with k.j and the coaches or something like that. He could have meant that k.j and the coaches are on the same page and he just wanted to take visits. Sure the step dad is enjoying it so what. But its hogville we have to be negative.

[tusksincolorado]

Apparently making an example out of a 17 year old kid is more important to some.

No, that is not my point....

my point,

1) For all recruits....don't be prima donnas

2) don't make outlandish commitments, then back track.

3) Lead or follow....but be #uncommon.

Hopefully, he will be a Hawg. Hopefully, under CBBs leadership he will grow into a wonderful, productive citizen, and a great representative of the State of Arkansas that we all can be proud of.

[GalaHawg]

As per 24/7 rankings... the best case scenario would be to finish with... Toby Weathersby, KJ Hill, Brandon Scott, and Jabari Zuniga - which gives us a total of 235.02 points and depending on how other teams finish, we should be ranked at the 19 or 20 spot when it's all said and done.

[Tim Harris]

No, that is not my point....

my point,

1) For all recruits....don't be prima donnas

2) don't make outlandish commitments, then back track.

3) Lead or follow....but be #uncommon.

Hopefully, he will be a Hawg. Hopefully, under CBBs leadership he will grow into a wonderful, productive citizen, and a great representative of the State of Arkansas that we all can be proud of.

The below two quotes from you say it was your point to make an example of him.

Unfortunately CBB has to set an example....and he may start this year!

If your an in-state, and commit, then de-commit 3 weeks before signing date your at the back of the bus.

So you don't think CBB will make an example of KJ for future in-state recruiting?

I've not seen him be a prima dona.  Lots of kids commit and decommit.  It happens......You can be a wonderful, productive citizen, and a great representative of the state regardless of where you go to college.

[hawginbigd1]

1. Hill
2. Weathersby
3. Jackson
4. King, Johnson, Scott, or Singleton

This I believe is their board, I don't see us leaving an open spot. I believe Johnson, Scott, and Singleton are plan B's to fill in if we don't get some of the top 3. I don't feel good about Zuniga, there could also be one out there we don't know about.

[onebadrubi]

The below two quotes from you say it was your point to make an example of him.

I've not seen him be a prima dona.  Lots of kids commit and decommit.  It happens......You can be a wonderful, productive citizen, and a great representative of the state regardless of where you go to college.

We have seen very little from KJ actually, it's the step father figure that is acting as the prima dona. 

[Tim Harris]

We have seen very little from KJ actually, it's the step father figure that is acting as the prima dona. 

Exactly which I hate.  One of my major pet peeves in recruiting is when someone else speaks for the kid.  I would rather them just not do interviews, twitter, etc... than to have someone else speaking on their behalf.

[hawgsmellgud]

The below two quotes from you say it was your point to make an example of him.

I've not seen him be a prima dona.  Lots of kids commit and decommit.  It happens......You can be a wonderful, productive citizen, and a great representative of the state regardless of where you go to college.

No, that is not my point....

my point,

1) For all recruits....don't be prima donnas

2) don't make outlandish commitments, then back track.

3) Lead or follow....but be #uncommon.

Hopefully, he will be a Hawg. Hopefully, under CBBs leadership he will grow into a wonderful, productive citizen, and a great representative of the State of Arkansas that we all can be proud of.

When he said example, he didn't mean... you know.... like an example... just... you know...

[tusksincolorado]

The below two quotes from you say it was your point to make an example of him.

I've not seen him be a prima dona.  Lots of kids commit and decommit.  It happens......You can be a wonderful, productive citizen, and a great representative of the state regardless of where you go to college.

Again, no.

First statement, I used the word "may" referring that CBB "could" start this year.

Second statement, I phased as a question asking for your opinion of this possibly happening.

Please don't catalogue me as attempting to undermine this recruiting class. As I stated prior, I hope all the recruits the coaching staff is after sign with the Razorbacks in February. 

[ricepig]

Scratch Singleton, he just committed to Cal.

[Tim Harris]

Scratch Singleton, he just committed to Cal.

I feel that Hill is the only other WR we will take.  If not we just roll with Stewart and Pettway.

[onebadrubi]

Exactly which I hate.  One of my major pet peeves in recruiting is when someone else speaks for the kid.  I would rather them just not do interviews, twitter, etc... than to have someone else speaking on their behalf.

I agree 100%.  it's the kids day to shine, it's his process, let him enjoy and be a parent.  Behind the scenes, there for help and guidance.  I can't help but think of Fraziers Mom in the process, she was even on this board.  Or hunter henry's father (yet he was a letterman of the U of A, so some bias there).  It's sad to see the Alex Collins type recruitment issues, or now as we are watching unfold in front of our eyes, the step father in this situation. 

KJ is showing to be the adult in the situation, which is nice to see.  KJ may very well be sitting back letting this "man" do his thing all the while KJ is doing his own without him even knowing.

[ricepig]

I feel that Hill is the only other WR we will take.  If not we just roll with Stewart and Pettway.

I'm good with that, hopefully Weathersby, and the other 3 for defense.

[Dominicanhog]

Hill
Weathersby
Zuniga
King

any of those fail to materialize and add Johnson/Jackson/Reed/Scott/Singleton..etc...


it's been a good year already, everything else is gravy...