JW Deuce

[Jonteviosk]

Jacorey Williams on the 1st place MTSU Blue Raiders Conf USA 3-0 13-3 overall including pounding OLE PISS.

17.4 pts 7.1 reb 1.9 asst    .524 fg% .683 ft%   In his sr season homeboy is on course to be in NCAA Tourney and Conf USA POY.

[ShadowHawg]

But he wouldn't have been any help last season. Right?

[Jonteviosk]

But he wouldn't have been any help last season. Right?

Heres the thing I cant answer that question and the heck of it is you cant either. We will never know. Glad hes balling out though.

[hogwood]

Heres the thing I cant answer that question and the heck of it is you cant either. We will never know. Glad hes balling out though.

Oh I know... He would've.

[Hawg Red]

But he wouldn't have been any help last season. Right?

He would have helped for sure, but he forfeited his right to be in the program with his actions. I think Mike made the right call.

[rzrbackramsfan]

He would have helped for sure, but he forfeited his right to be in the program with his actions. I think Mike made the right call.

This is absolutely unquestionable.  JW was out of control and had to go for the integrity of the program. 

[Dwight_K_Shrute]

People act like he was run off, or got mad because Mike wasn't using him correctly giving him minutes etc.  He was part of the counterfeit problem, and if that's all it was he would most likely still be here.  He was dismissed off the team for domestic violence issue.  Good for him that he's behaving and doing well at MTSU.  The PTB here did the right thing by letting him go.

[FineAsSwine]

People act like he was run off, or got mad because Mike wasn't using him correctly giving him minutes etc.  He was part of the counterfeit problem, and if that's all it was he would most likely still be here.  He was dismissed off the team for domestic violence issue.  Good for him that he's behaving and doing well at MTSU.  The PTB here did the right thing by letting him go.

Didn't need to risk him giving the program a black eye if he ended up punching his girlfriend in the face.

[Jonteviosk]

This is absolutely unquestionable.  JW was out of control and had to go for the integrity of the program.

I am so sick of that word integrity that word is the reason why the football program has regressed.

[Hawg Red]

I am so sick of that word integrity that word is the reason why the football program has regressed.

You can't possibly be serious.

[Jonteviosk]

You can't possibly be serious.

did you miss the entire season in particular the last 2 second halves?

[Hawg Red]

did you miss the entire season in particular the last 2 second halves?

Certainly did not. But the problem is not integrity.

[bvillepig]

It shows what a good red shirt year will do for some.  I do wish we would do that some but I understand the choices.

[Jonteviosk]

When some get a taste of greatness like Petrinos last 2 seasons it becomes harder to accept the crap product that Burt put out there this year. Burt couldn't coach a lil league team.

[FineAsSwine]

When some get a taste of greatness like Petrinos last 2 seasons it becomes harder to accept the crap product that Burt put out there this year. Burt couldn't coach a lil league team.

Bret Bielema will win here. He's a good coach and I like him. Hope he stays.

[FineAsSwine]

It shows what a good red shirt year will do for some.  I do wish we would do that some but I understand the choices.

I can see how a redshirt year has helped JC. Don't know the whole story but it must have been a lot more to it than we know if he was kicked off the team rather than giving him the chance to sit out here as penance.

[Hawg Red]

When some get a taste of greatness like Petrinos last 2 seasons it becomes harder to accept the crap product that Burt put out there this year. Burt couldn't coach a lil league team.

Again, where is integrity coming in here?

Try to articulate what you've said for once.

[PonderinHog]

I can see how a redshirt year has helped JC. Don't know the whole story but it must have been a lot more to it than we know if he was kicked off the team rather than giving him the chance to sit out here as penance.

Since the last few posts have been football related, I'll make a baseball reference.  Three strikes and you're out.

[Dropkick]

Again, where is integrity coming in here?

Try to articulate what you've said for once.

Well he couldn't hardly put Petrino and integrity in the same sentence now could he.

By the way, Jonty, what is this greatness you speak of? Were we beating Bama and winning championships when Bobby was here?

[SemperHawg]

Again, where is integrity coming in here?

Try to articulate what you've said for once.

MMQB, how the hell did you get in here?

[Pistol Pig Maravich]

He was terrible here...glad he is gone!!!  Turnover waiting to happen. Don't care what he is doing against less talented players. Make sure to watch him play against real talent in the tournament and he will be back to his usual mistake prone game.

[HossHog]

Didn't he get into a bar fight a little bit after he got kicked off the team? Or did I dream that?

[Hawg Red]

Didn't he get into a bar fight a little bit after he got kicked off the team? Or did I dream that?

That was mostly what got him kicked off the team, actually. He pushed his girlfriend down and then sucker punched a bouncer. Mike cut him loose after that combined with the counterfeit bill fiasco.

[rzrbackramsfan]

When some get a taste of greatness like Petrinos last 2 seasons it becomes harder to accept the crap product that Burt put out there this year. Burt couldn't coach a lil league team.

This isn't even apples to apples between firing petrino and let Jacorrey go.  And are you even that surprised?  You know how much easier the level of competition is in C-USA compared to the SEC?  Who's to say he would've done THAT much at Arkansas? 

[Hawg Red]

This isn't even apples to apples between firing petrino and let Jacorrey go.  And are you even that surprised?  You know how much easier the level of competition is in C-USA compared to the SEC?  Who's to say he would've done THAT much at Arkansas?

I could see him averaging 9 points and 5 rebounds as a senior at Arkansas. Which would have actually helped a lot. But, no, definitely not averaging points deep into the teens like he is at MTSU.

[Jonteviosk]

I'm in agreement with HA but I think he could have done a lil more 10 and 5 also he was a plus defensive player.

[rzrbackramsfan]

I'm in agreement with HA but I think he could have done a lil more 10 and 5 also he was a plus defensive player.

I could see him being on the bench in a critical NCAA game and him throwing his shoe on the court. I never thought that was funny btw.  That was a pretty close game to be giving away technicals.

[hobhog]

I am so sick of that word integrity that word is the reason why the football program has regressed.

Very telling.....

[BRHogfan]

Jacorey Williams was never going to be an SEC POtY, but he made a difference when he was here and would've been valuable last season and this season.  I'm hoping that getting kicked off the team was rock bottom for him.

[Boss Hog in the Arkansas]

I am so sick of that word integrity that word is the reason why the football program has regressed.

Ole Miss was tired of integrity too. They had the "win at all costs" attitude. Now they're being out recruited by vandy because the NCAA ban hammer is nearby

[Boss Hog in the Arkansas]

Very telling.....

Isn't it though. There are many others like that in our fanbase, unfortunately

[k.c.hawg]

I am so sick of that word integrity that word is the reason why the football program has regressed.

Maybe if he had decked your girlfriend in a bar, you would understand what they are talking about when they talk about character or integrity. It is still a university campus, they have an obligation to protect the students on campus as much as possible. Overlook the guy that knocks his girl down in the bar and then sucker punches the bouncer while he is suspended from the team and your next step as a program is to hide 20+ sexual assaults by your football team. If you don't need your university to have integrity just pick out some pro team and pretend they are your college team.

[azhog10]

Jacorey Williams was never going to be an SEC POtY, but he made a difference when he was here and would've been valuable last season and this season.  I'm hoping that getting kicked off the team was rock bottom for him.

To be fair he couldn't have been valuable this season if he was valuable for us last season. He only had one year left to play so had he played last season he would have no more eligibility.

[BRHogfan]

To be fair he couldn't have been valuable this season if he was valuable for us last season. He only had one year left to play so had he played last season he would have no more eligibility.

You're right. For some reason I had it in my head that he played for them last year, but he was just a practice player.

[Karma]

did you miss the entire season in particular the last 2 second halves?

I guess Joe Mixon is your favorite player.

[rickfahr]

Well he couldn't hardly put Petrino and integrity in the same sentence now could he.

By the way, Jonty, what is this greatness you speak of? Were we beating Bama and winning championships when Bobby was here?

We were relevant, something we've not been since Petrino left.

[hog.goblin]

I could see him being on the bench in a critical NCAA game and him throwing his shoe on the court. I never thought that was funny btw.  That was a pretty close game to be giving away technicals.

It was hilarious, but only because he was throwing his shoe TO Ky instead of at someone

[Jonteviosk]

Actually the integrity statement wasn't in relation to JW. He got what he deserved although I'm glad hes making the most of his new beginning. I was referring to the fat tard football coach we currently have. If he spent as much time developing players as he does chasing down cheese burgers we would be upper echelon sec football team. Unfortunately you integrity proponents are of with piss poor football.