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Gerry Bohanon 2018

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blu

Quote from: Deep Shoat on September 03, 2017, 02:14:04 pm
The QB offer was rescinded when we got our 11th and 12th commits.

He's an OLB at Arkansas or he's not at Arkansas.  No spots left for anything but an OL/DL/OLB/TE/Foucha.  The first two of those will close the class, barring something significant changing.

And you know this how?
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Big_Red_1

Just another great recruit from Arkansas.  This is my first post in some time.  No response expected.
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oldfart

I dont intend to imply that i know more than the coaching staff, or some of the more astute posters on here, but it seems to me that an athlete like him comes along once in a generation.  you find a place to put him.  offer him at QB, let him try it.  if it doesnt work you find a place for him somewhere.  dont miss out on him.

greenie

Quote from: oldfart on September 04, 2017, 10:41:03 am
I dont intend to imply that i know more than the coaching staff, or some of the more astute posters on here, but it seems to me that an athlete like him comes along once in a generation.  you find a place to put him.  offer him at QB, let him try it.  if it doesnt work you find a place for him somewhere.  dont miss out on him.

This is just my observation of the situation, but it looks like it's not simply a QB-offer he's looking for from us.  I believe that we've already done that (albeit our offer at QB appears to have changed to an Athlete/OLB offer recently) and he balked at committing.  I think that he understands that Bielema/Enos have never emphasized mobility in a QB at Arkansas, and that likely is working against us.  Truth is, he's still looking around, weighing those programs that are offering a shot a QB (and who have recently featured a running QB).  He needs to have an outstanding senior year to get some new options.  Otherwise, he either goes to a program at risk (Baylor), a dumpster fire (Ole Miss), a lesser program (non-P5), or concedes his dream of being a QB.  If he chooses the last option, I imagine that there will be several P-5 programs willing to offer...if he doesn't wait too long.

Outside of that, I don't think Bielema will spend one of this year's scholarships on a guy who insists on being a QB, but who they think (Bielema/Enos) doesn't have a realistic chance at making the 2-deep at that position.  The scholarships available this year are too few.  I'm sure they've told him all of this up front. 

Again, all my unsubstantiated opinion.

ricepig

Quote from: oldfart on September 04, 2017, 10:41:03 am
I dont intend to imply that i know more than the coaching staff, or some of the more astute posters on here, but it seems to me that an athlete like him comes along once in a generation.  you find a place to put him.  offer him at QB, let him try it.  if it doesnt work you find a place for him somewhere.  dont miss out on him.

You think he is a once in a generation athlete? He's talented, but I'd say we've had others in your 80 years that would fit that better.

jackflash

Better to tell him up front what we are recruiting him for I think

Bubba's Bruisers

Quote from: jackflash on September 04, 2017, 02:02:23 pm
Better to tell him up front what we are recruiting him for I think

I see legitimacy in both approaches, but I do tend to lean more to just being straight up with the kid if you're confident he's not going to play the position he wants.
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oldfart

Quote from: ricepig on September 04, 2017, 12:31:38 pm
You think he is a once in a generation athlete? He's talented, but I'd say we've had others in your 80 years that would fit that better.
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you are correct ricepig i should have said once in a decade :-) for my 80 (nearly) its probably jim brown

bennyl08

Quote from: oldfart on September 04, 2017, 10:41:03 am
I dont intend to imply that i know more than the coaching staff, or some of the more astute posters on here, but it seems to me that an athlete like him comes along once in a generation.  you find a place to put him.  offer him at QB, let him try it.  if it doesnt work you find a place for him somewhere.  dont miss out on him.

I could name at least 10 players on our roster right now who are at least as athletic as Bohanon. Possibly more.
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Carl Lazlo

He's got good size for a high school senior. 6'3 212.  Get him up to 230-235 and he could be formidable in the sec.

AugustaHog

This is a difficult position to be in for a staff.  If you offer the kid with the promise to start at QB, you have to give him a fair shake at that spot.  Even then, ego may not allow for him to accept that others are truly better and willingly switch.  You avoid all that by offering as an athlete/OLB.  If you really think he has a shot at QB, then by all means offer the kid.  If not, I could see us losing him in a couple years to a transfer, which is a worst-case scenario given the small class size.  Of course, if he's the real deal and shows out at QB, this is all a moot point anyways.

blu

So much uninformed fail in this thread - smh.
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gmarv

Am I the only one who thinks of Duwop and how he wanted to only play QB. It seems similar. I don,t think our coaches want that to happen again especially with a Arkansas kid.
Quote from: AugustaHog on September 05, 2017, 06:52:58 am
This is a difficult position to be in for a staff.  If you offer the kid with the promise to start at QB, you have to give him a fair shake at that spot.  Even then, ego may not allow for him to accept that others are truly better and willingly switch.  You avoid all that by offering as an athlete/OLB.  If you really think he has a shot at QB, then by all means offer the kid.  If not, I could see us losing him in a couple years to a transfer, which is a worst-case scenario given the small class size.  Of course, if he's the real deal and shows out at QB, this is all a moot point anyways.

 

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Pudgepork

Quote from: blu on September 05, 2017, 07:02:25 am
So much uninformed fail in this thread - smh.

Yes, enlighten us.  And Bohanons situation is very similar to Duwop.  Very good athlete more suited physically for other positions.  Yet unwilling to switch.   This show a possible star(ego)wannabe.    As a team, they might be better off without him if he isn't a team player.   No matter how gifted, sulking players do harm.

onebadrubi

Quote from: Pudgepork on September 05, 2017, 01:46:14 pm
Yes, enlighten us.  And Bohanons situation is very similar to Duwop.  Very good athlete more suited physically for other positions.  Yet unwilling to switch.   This show a possible star(ego)wannabe.    As a team, they might be better off without him if he isn't a team player.   No matter how gifted, sulking players do harm.

Don't blame the kids ego, yet.  I mean he has had people come calling his home phone and knocking on his door of the likes of Gus Malzahn who is nationally beloved for some reason as a Offesnive guru and then most recently Dan Mullen who put Dak Prescott in the NFL and is dominating in his first year. 

The kid has guys like that phoning his home phone and knocking on his home in Earle, Ar?  He is going to be a little taken back by that and anyone would be. 

Pudgepork

Agree Rubi and it has to be overwhelming to be the center of all that attention. Using Duwop as a very recent and very similar situation, I just don't think we should react much if he goes elsewhere.  If his future at ark is olb, they'd probably be better off to sign someone with talent and experience at that position

Paul

Quote from: greenie on September 03, 2017, 03:08:10 pm
Will be interesting to see what he does.  Of those schools that appear to be interested, Baylor would be a major gamble on his part; Ole Miss will probably do anything at this point to land a recruit of his stature (including offer him at QB); Louisville already has a dual-threat QB verbal, but if CBP tells him he'll have a shot at QB, this might lure him; MS State also already has a dual-threat QB verbal, and Mullin is absolutely proven when it comes to developing/utilizing a running QB, but I'm not sure of their interested anymore; and we all know what Arkansas is offering.  I guess he could end up going to a non-P5 like A-State or Memphis...or how about Central Florida?  Like I said, this will be interesting to watch.
Umm not any longer they won't

RazorPiggie

Quote from: onebadrubi on September 05, 2017, 02:42:28 pm
Don't blame the kids ego, yet.  I mean he has had people come calling his home phone and knocking on his door of the likes of Gus Malzahn who is nationally beloved for some reason as a Offesnive guru and then most recently Dan Mullen who put Dak Prescott in the NFL and is dominating in his first year. 

The kid has guys like that phoning his home phone and knocking on his home in Earle, Ar?  He is going to be a little taken back by that and anyone would be. 

Who has a home phone these days???

greenie

Quote from: Paul on September 06, 2017, 12:47:28 pm
Umm not any longer they won't

They probably won't do anything illegal, but I bet they won't hesitate to tell him he'd have a shot at playing QB...whether they believed he had the skills for that position or not.

onebadrubi


woodrow hog call

The bottom line is; it's his life, his dream, his future, and if he is dead set on being the next Dak Prescott, he needs to go to a school that will give him the opportunity to play QB.

Nobody has the right to tell someone they shouldn't follow their gut, and or dream, because they aren't going to play QB at the next level. If he wants to be an NFL QB, I hope he makes it, preferably as a hog, but if that isn't possible so be it, I will still be hoping he makes it.
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Pig Power

Quote from: woodrow hog call on September 07, 2017, 05:07:37 pm
The bottom line is; it's his life, his dream, his future, and if he is dead set on being the next Dak Prescott, he needs to go to a school that will give him the opportunity to play QB.

Nobody has the right to tell someone they shouldn't follow their gut, and or dream, because they aren't going to play QB at the next level. If he wants to be an NFL QB, I hope he makes it, preferably as a hog, but if that isn't possible so be it, I will still be hoping he makes it.
Completely agree Woodrow.... Chase the dream..

AugustaHog

Quote from: Pudgepork on September 05, 2017, 01:46:14 pm
Yes, enlighten us.  And Bohanons situation is very similar to Duwop.  Very good athlete more suited physically for other positions.  Yet unwilling to switch.   This show a possible star(ego)wannabe.    As a team, they might be better off without him if he isn't a team player.   No matter how gifted, sulking players do harm.
My comments about Gerry weren't indicating that I think he has an ego.  If he wants to be a QB and truly believes in his ability to be a QB then he should go to a school offering that as his primary option.  He has size, speed, talent to play at other positions on the next level as well.  The small class size is going to dictate that we be very selective with the schollies.  I think honesty is the best in this case.  If you don't envision him being a star at QB, be real with him and advise him of what you think is best.  If it's not what he wants to hear, then so be it.  If you aren't sure how he'll develop at QB, say as much and promise him a legit chance with the understanding that if he can't beat out the other dudes on the depth chart, OLB or other positions would be a possibility. 

 

Bacon_Bitz

Bring him in next year and let him compete for the starting QB job please.

rljjr

The writing is on the wall. We need a real DT QB. I say let him try. We have zero to lose.

arkansas proud77

Having a mobile qb is a must, because of our o-line struggles.  We could use him this week if he was here.  When protection breaks down, that kid is amazing.   Forget baylor gerry.   

The_Iceman

Quote from: rljjr on September 12, 2017, 12:25:57 pm
The writing is on the wall. We need a real DT QB. I say let him try. We have zero to lose.

No we don't. We need the two fat lards up there that are supposed to be O-line gurus to get off their buts and go recruits some studs and develop them.

PorkRinds

Quote from: The_Iceman on September 14, 2017, 11:53:06 am
No we don't. We need the two fat lards up there that are supposed to be O-line gurus to get off their buts and go recruits some studs and develop them.

Your point, which is a good one, gets lost when you act like a prick.

311Hog

longest recruit  thread ever?

is Gerry this year's Ty Storey?

Small school kid that is a really good QB but maybe just not quiet SEC West starting QB level ( i know Storey's story isn't over yet)

Richard Davenport

FWIW, don't know if it's in the thread or not but he'll visit Louisville on Sat.

Dominicanhog

Quote from: Richard Davenport on September 14, 2017, 02:45:27 pm
FWIW, don't know if it's in the thread or not but he'll visit Louisville on Sat.

and I think a good chance he goes there as well...

PorkRinds

He'd be a better fit there than he would here if he wants to play QB.

HardingHog



PorkRinds

When Lamar Jackson tells this kid that BP will make him the next Lamar Jackson he is going to commit.

King Kong

Quote from: PorkRinds on September 14, 2017, 07:24:37 pm
When Lamar Jackson tells this kid that BP will make him the next Lamar Jackson he is going to commit.

Or when Lamar tells him CBP is an A-hole he may go somewhere else. That is what typically happened here for big recruits and that same reason almost lead to Greg Child's transferring at one point

PorkRinds

Quote from: King Kong on September 14, 2017, 08:28:54 pm
Or when Lamar tells him CBP is an A-hole he may go somewhere else. That is what typically happened here for big recruits and that same reason almost lead to Greg Child's transferring at one point

Bohannon is only a big recruit here.  I'm gonna bet LJ likes Bobby just fine. He's gonna help him earn millions.

Cavtastic Voyage

this is the kind of BS i expect from our incompetent coaching staff. And we wonder why we miss on recruits. From the very beginning we should have offered this kid as a QB. Maybe he doesn't have the tools now, but who's to say he won't. You get a athlete like this and you won't give him a chance at his preferred position. Or tell him you don't like him as a QB. Tell him you love him at QB. Tell him your gonna give him every opportunity to play QB.  This guy may be the next Dak for mullins, and we didn't want roll the dice on a guy like this. Say he came to Arkansas and when he gets on campus and isn't good enough, then he'll likely agree that maybe if he can't start at Arkansas then his future as a professional isn't at QB. We wouldn't want to waste a spot on a kid that is set on being QB,  but yet we can have 6 T.E. on the team.

PorkRinds

Quote from: Cavtastic Voyage on September 14, 2017, 11:31:00 pm
this is the kind of BS i expect from our incompetent coaching staff. And we wonder why we miss on recruits. From the very beginning we should have offered this kid as a QB. Maybe he doesn't have the tools now, but who's to say he won't. You get a athlete like this and you won't give him a chance at his preferred position. Or tell him you don't like him as a QB. Tell him you love him at QB. Tell him your gonna give him every opportunity to play QB.  This guy may be the next Dak for mullins, and we didn't want roll the dice on a guy like this. Say he came to Arkansas and when he gets on campus and isn't good enough, then he'll likely agree that maybe if he can't start at Arkansas then his future as a professional isn't at QB. We wouldn't want to waste a spot on a kid that is set on being QB,  but yet we can have 6 T.E. on the team.

It's obvious you have no clue what has been done with this kid by the staff.

Dominicanhog

Quote from: PorkRinds on September 14, 2017, 07:24:37 pm
When Lamar Jackson tells this kid that BP will make him the next Lamar Jackson he is going to commit.

If I were in his shoe's , I'd sure be listening...

PorkRinds

Quote from: Dominicanhog on September 15, 2017, 03:09:30 pm
If I were in his shoe's , I'd sure be listening...

It'd be hard not to. Only thing I'd worry about is Petrino being Petrino and getting canned before I could get my start.

Piggfoot

I don't see why we don't offer him an opportunity at QB. It's not like we've been a 100% on our selections already. Surely if he can't make it he will realize that.
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Dominicanhog

Quote from: PorkRinds on September 15, 2017, 05:49:55 pm
It'd be hard not to. Only thing I'd worry about is Petrino being Petrino and getting canned before I could get my start.

not in Louisville.. unless he got caught with a boosters wife doing it on the table in a restaurant, or hiring escorts for players/recruits. etc.. those are the only things you could get canned for in Louisville... Riding Harley's with a mistress on the back would be no problem.... you don't even have to lie to the AD...

PorkRinds

Quote from: Piggfoot on September 15, 2017, 06:06:27 pm
I don't see why we don't offer him an opportunity at QB. It's not like we've been a 100% on our selections already. Surely if he can't make it he will realize that.
Austin Allen Redshirt senior, Kelly Redshirt freshman, Storey RS soph, Jack Lindsey RS Fr, ? Legacy, ? walkon, Proctor Carson RS Fr,

You're leaving out a couple.

Bubba's Bruisers

Quote from: Piggfoot on September 15, 2017, 06:06:27 pm
I don't see why we don't offer him an opportunity at QB. It's not like we've been a 100% on our selections already. Surely if he can't make it he will realize that.
Austin Allen Redshirt senior, Kelly Redshirt freshman, Storey RS soph, Jack Lindsey RS Fr, ? Legacy, ? walkon, Proctor Carson RS Fr,

The only reason I can think of is the staff, right or wrong, simply doesn't see him as a QB.  Maybe they don't want to go through the motions.  I'd prefer they did offer him a shot at QB, though, to secure his signature.  If nothing else, it could be a gift to the next staff. 
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Genesis 3:15

aloha_kid

In other news, last QB we can't let get out of state:

https://n.rivals.com/content/prospects/2011/kiehl-frazier-19935

Who was the coach that let him get away?  How many games did he start?

factchecker

Quote from: aloha_kid on September 15, 2017, 11:56:06 pm
In other news, last QB we can't let get out of state:

https://n.rivals.com/content/prospects/2011/kiehl-frazier-19935

Who was the coach that let him get away?  How many games did he start?

Heard he did pretty good at Ouachita Baptist.
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Quote from: nwahogfan1 on June 08, 2017, 11:06:07 am
Without me going thru all 12 pages on here can some tell me what offensive system does Bohanon want to play in?  Spread? Pro? Combination?  Has he said?

Earle's a spread team. They mix in some power run concepts as well, but coach Colemans first option is to sling that thing all over the field. They even have pass happy 7th grade and Jr High teams.