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Title: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: Letsroll1200 on January 16, 2017, 03:05:13 pm
QB/Ath from Earle received offer from Alabama. Is Arkansas just slow on offering in state kids?
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: Bubba's Bruisers on January 16, 2017, 03:08:29 pm
And we're off!!
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: navyhog24 on January 16, 2017, 03:09:33 pm
This year's Akial Byers thread. Awesome!
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: ricepig on January 16, 2017, 03:11:26 pm
QB/Ath from Earle received offer from Alabama. Is Arkansas just slow on offering in state kids?

Yes, most said we had no chance with Brown because Bama and LSU offered before we did.
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: moto625 on January 16, 2017, 03:14:48 pm
No
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: ADavisTheGOAT on January 16, 2017, 03:16:10 pm
We have our 2018 QB named Connor Noland.
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: Letsroll1200 on January 16, 2017, 03:20:22 pm
The narrative every year is Arkansas doesn't produce enough players to be competitive in the SEC. That may be true but lately high level programs are in Arkansas offering recruits. Maybe Arkansas is still evaluating but we can't lose anybody to Bama.
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: Letsroll1200 on January 16, 2017, 03:21:38 pm
We have our 2018 QB named Connor Noland.

Still need competition at every position.
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: ricepig on January 16, 2017, 03:26:23 pm
The narrative every year is Arkansas doesn't produce enough players to be competitive in the SEC. That may be true but lately high level programs are in Arkansas offering recruits. Maybe Arkansas is still evaluating but we can't lose anybody to Bama.

He's more of an athlete, isn't he? I figure if everything checks out, we'll offer. Every year, Bama, LSU, or someone offers an in-state athlete before we do and the masses go crazy. Patience, just a little patience.
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: TexasRazorback on January 16, 2017, 03:30:06 pm
6'4" 215. Line him up out side and convert him to WR.
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: ricepig on January 16, 2017, 03:36:08 pm
6'4" 215. Line him up out side and convert him to WR.

Bama probably wants to put 20lbs on and make him a LB.
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: Nosboar Accubond on January 16, 2017, 03:37:56 pm
Here we go...

I'm much more concerns about players at other schools that a big contributors that we didn't even offer.

Until I see evidence of that I'm not going to get upset.

And Crockett wanted to play RB not CB.
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: HardingHog on January 16, 2017, 03:41:00 pm
6'4" 215. Line him up out side and convert him to WR.

Yeah, I'm not Nick Saban, but I highly doubt (in a theoretical world where Alabama is actually even interested in this kid which I doubt is the case) he's wanting him to be a QB. He has great size to be a stud WR. If he has the ability I wouldn't mind seeing us recruit him at receiver, but if not I trust our coaches with in-state kids
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: NoogaHog on January 16, 2017, 04:05:35 pm
There's a stud quarterback in Earle named Bohannon.

Say that out loud and tell me that's not next level Arkansas. ;D
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: Letsroll1200 on January 16, 2017, 04:12:32 pm
Yeah, I'm not Nick Saban, but I highly doubt (in a theoretical world where Alabama is actually even interested in this kid which I doubt is the case) he's wanting him to be a QB. He has great size to be a stud WR. If he has the ability I wouldn't mind seeing us recruit him at receiver, but if not I trust our coaches with in-state kids

Keep trusting them. They need to be more aggressive with in state kids. People says Petrino got lucky with in state players. I believe luck has nothing to do with it. It was effort meets opportunity. We need some speed and atletchism on the defense.
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: factchecker on January 16, 2017, 04:19:24 pm
Keep trusting them. They need to be more aggressive with in state kids. People says Petrino got lucky with in state players. I believe luck has nothing to do with it. It was effort meets opportunity. We need some speed and atletchism on the defense.

Yet Petrino completely whiffed on Kenneth Dixon and Martrell Spaight (told him he was too small to play in the SEC).
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: onebadrubi on January 16, 2017, 04:21:59 pm
Still need competition at every position.

Yeah, we should bring in 2-3 QB's per year so when they transfer people have another eason to bash the coach and when we are thin at another position because of scholarship limits they can bash the coach.
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: onebadrubi on January 16, 2017, 04:23:51 pm
Here we go...

I'm much more concerns about players at other schools that a big contributors that we didn't even offer.

Until I see evidence of that I'm not going to get upset.

And Crockett wanted to play RB not CB.

Ok, so let Whaley a top RB in the nation go and to recruit Crockett.  Makes perfect sense!  Geeze people will never let this Crockett thing go.
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: clutch on January 16, 2017, 04:24:22 pm
Bama probably wants to put 20lbs on and make him a LB.

I've thought all along that whoever got him would put a lot of weight on him and try to make him an end. This kids a freak athlete and has the frame to add a lot of weight. He could cause some serious trouble somebody at end.

He can throw it a mile, but probably won't play QB at the next level. I think he has the ability to play QB, like I said he can throw it a mile and he can run really well, but his potential is much higher on the defensive side of the ball.

He's a really good kid too. If you ever talk to him it's yes sir and no sir. Makes good grades in school. Really smart. His mom is the principal at his school so she makes sure he stays on the right path. He'd be a great addition to the Razorbacks. I think it's only a matter of time before we offer him.

I know Arkansas has shown him a lot of interest. They tried him out at 5 different positions at their camp. I think the positions were QB, WR, LB, DE, & Safety . That should tell you what kind of athlete this kid is.
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: onebadrubi on January 16, 2017, 04:25:26 pm
Keep trusting them. They need to be more aggressive with in state kids. People says Petrino got lucky with in state players. I believe luck has nothing to do with it. It was effort meets opportunity. We need some speed and atletchism on the defense.

Care to name some names to show that aggressiveness?  I'm looking for proof that you speak of Petrino being such more aggressive than Bielema with instate recruits? 
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: hawginbigd1 on January 16, 2017, 04:32:37 pm
Ok, so let Whaley a top RB in the nation go and to recruit Crockett.  Makes perfect sense!  Geeze people will never let this Crockett thing go.
Nope, your statement is disingenuous at best, There was plenty of time to offer Crockett after Whaley and Hammonds were all in. Definitely IMO should have been done when Porter committed. I said it then and will still say it, if you were willing to offer Porter and it didn't work out he should have got an offer.
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: ricepig on January 16, 2017, 04:37:23 pm
Nope, your statement is disingenuous at best, There was plenty of time to offer Crockett after Whaley and Hammonds were all in. Definitely IMO should have been done when Porter committed. I said it then and will still say it, if you were willing to offer Porter and it didn't work out he should have got an offer.

So, Porter commits on the day before NSD, and we should throw out an offer that day to an in-state guy because we missed out? I guess if you've been telling someone where they stood in line on our RB offers.
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: onebadrubi on January 16, 2017, 04:43:53 pm
Nope, your statement is disingenuous at best, There was plenty of time to offer Crockett after Whaley and Hammonds were all in. Definitely IMO should have been done when Porter committed. I said it then and will still say it, if you were willing to offer Porter and it didn't work out he should have got an offer.

Well, you could also believe the multiple accounts from arkansas journalist that this staff thought he was a little slow.  Now if you want to say well he tore it up as a freshman in the SEC, sure, but there is more to that story if you really want to discuss.
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: factchecker on January 16, 2017, 04:46:43 pm
Top 10 in-state recruits since Bielema has been here:

2013

Hunter Henry            Signed by Arkansas           Mackey Award Winner- San Diego Charger
Altee Tenpenny         Signed by Bama                              -
Brooks Ellis               Signed by Arkansas           Starting Linebacker (graduated)
Austin Allen              Signed by Arkansas            Starting Quarterback
Jamar Criswell           ?                                                   -
Martrell Spaight        Signed by Arkansas (JUCO)   Linebacker for Redskins
Tevin Beanum           Signed by Arkansas             In 2 deep
Korliss Marshall         Signed by Arkansas             Transfer to Eastern Illinois
Phillip Hay                 Signed by Harvard                              ?
Alex Brignoni             Signed by Arkansas             Medical Hardship

2014

Bijhon Jackson          Signed by Arkansas           In 2-deep rotation
Joshua Frazier           Signed by Bama               In 2-deep rotation (made tackle in playoff game)
Jabe Burgess             Signed by Tulsa                Transfer to Mississippi Gulf Coast CC (JUCO)
Josh Liddell               Signed by Arkansas           Starting Safety
Deandre Murray         Signed by Tulsa                Transfer to D2 Pittsburg State
Jake Hall                   Signed by Arkansas           Buried in depth chart
Juan Day                   Signed by Arkansas           Injuries
Jack Kraus                 Signed by Arkansas           2 deep rotation
Jarvis Cooper             Signed by Memphis            Transfer to UCA
Isaac Johnson            Signed by Tulsa                     ?

2015

K.J. Hill                     Signed by Ohio State                          Getting some playing time
C.J. O'Grady              Signed by Arkansas                             Getting playing time (caught TD in bowl game)
Will Gragg                 Signed by Arkansas                              To be Determined
Jamario Bell               Signed by Arkansas                             To be Determined
Dominique Reed         Signed by Arkansas (from JUCO)           Was key weapon in passing game last season
Justin Bailey               Signed by Arkansas Tech                                  ?
Ross Trail                   Signed by Cincinnati                              Played sparingly--threw for 1 TD and 6 INTs in 2016
Ty Storey                    Signed by Arkansas                              Buried in depth
LaMichael Pettway        Signed by Arkansas                              Caught TD pass vs. Alcorn
Deon Stewart               Signed by Arkansas                              Rotates in depth/ Kick Return

2016

McTelvin Agim             Signed by Arkansas                            Starting defensive linemen
T.J. Hammonds           Signed by Arkansas                             Bright future in running back rotation
John Tate                   Signed by Memphis                               Redshirt?
Austin Capps               Signed by Arkansas                             Rotates in the two deep
Jordan Jones               Signed by Arkansas                              To be Determined- Redshirt
Kabion Ento                 Signed by Colorado                               8 catches/174 yards -- 2 TDs
Nick McCann                Signed by Texas Tech                           Redshirt?
Damerea Crockett         Signed by Missouri                               Rushed for over 1000 yards
Cam Murray                 Signed by Okie State                              Redshirt  ?
Kenyon Jackson            Signed by Minnesota                             Redshirt


2013: http://espn.go.com/college-sports/football/recruiting/databaseresults?firstname=&lastname=&collegeid=&class=2013&position=&state=3

2014: http://espn.go.com/college-sports/football/recruiting/databaseresults?firstname=&lastname=&collegeid=&class=2014&position=&state=3

2015: http://espn.go.com/college-sports/football/recruiting/databaseresults?firstname=&lastname=&collegeid=&class=2015&position=&state=3

2016: http://espn.go.com/college-sports/football/recruiting/databaseresults?firstname=&lastname=&collegeid=&class=2016&position=&state=3

23 out of top 40 recruits have stayed with Arkansas.

I would say that Crockett was a miss but who knows what he would have done here.  He probably would have been red-shirted.

How many others were no offer misses?  Maybe Ento.
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: Hogs33 on January 16, 2017, 04:54:48 pm
Bama also offered Ty Storey and he hasn't  panned out yet. When/if Hogs offer let me know then we can discuss.
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: Oklahawg on January 16, 2017, 04:55:38 pm
Good post factchecker.
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: onebadrubi on January 16, 2017, 05:00:00 pm
Jarvis cooper is a great example.  Kid was loved by ratings and such during his recruitment, but really didn't fit.  People were mad he went to Memphis and we didn't take a shot at him.  Not to bash a kid, but this staff has shown to be pretty good in these situations, there alwasy seems to be a kid a year that goes elsewhere that a few in Arkansas bash this staff for not taking a flyer on.  Think Bama wishes they only missed on one instate guy a year? UGA? LSU?  When you put things in perspective, losing 1 a year even if they pan out and or don't have an offer, this staff has done a great job of securing this state and the talent we have in it. 
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: Hogs33 on January 16, 2017, 05:02:29 pm
Top 10 in-state recruits since Bielema has been here:

2013

Hunter Henry            Signed by Arkansas           Mackey Award Winner- San Diego Charger
Altee Tenpenny         Signed by Bama                              -
Brooks Ellis               Signed by Arkansas           Starting Linebacker (graduated)
Austin Allen              Signed by Arkansas            Starting Quarterback
Jamar Criswell           ?                                                   -
Martrell Spaight        Signed by Arkansas (JUCO)   Linebacker for Redskins
Tevin Beanum           Signed by Arkansas             In 2 deep
Korliss Marshall         Signed by Arkansas             Transfer to Eastern Illinois
Phillip Hay                 Signed by Harvard                              ?
Alex Brignoni             Signed by Arkansas             Medical Hardship

2014

Bijhon Jackson          Signed by Arkansas           In 2-deep rotation
Joshua Frazier           Signed by Bama               In 2-deep rotation (made tackle in playoff game)
Jabe Burgess             Signed by Tulsa                Transfer to Mississippi Gulf Coast CC (JUCO)
Josh Liddell               Signed by Arkansas           Starting Safety
Deandre Murray         Signed by Tulsa                Transfer to D2 Pittsburg State
Jake Hall                   Signed by Arkansas           Buried in depth chart
Juan Day                   Signed by Arkansas           Injuries
Jack Kraus                 Signed by Arkansas           2 deep rotation
Jarvis Cooper             Signed by Memphis            Transfer to UCA
Isaac Johnson            Signed by Tulsa                     ?

2015

K.J. Hill                     Signed by Ohio State                          Getting some playing time
C.J. O'Grady              Signed by Arkansas                             Getting playing time (caught TD in bowl game)
Will Gragg                 Signed by Arkansas                              To be Determined
Jamario Bell               Signed by Arkansas                             To be Determined
Dominique Reed         Signed by Arkansas (from JUCO)           Was key weapon in passing game last season
Justin Bailey               Signed by Arkansas Tech                                  ?
Ross Trail                   Signed by Cincinnati                              Played sparingly--threw for 1 TD and 6 INTs in 2016
Ty Storey                    Signed by Arkansas                              Buried in depth
LaMichael Pettway        Signed by Arkansas                              Caught TD pass vs. Alcorn
Deon Stewart               Signed by Arkansas                              Rotates in depth/ Kick Return

2016

McTelvin Agim             Signed by Arkansas                            Starting defensive linemen
T.J. Hammonds           Signed by Arkansas                             Bright future in running back rotation
John Tate                   Signed by Memphis                               Redshirt?
Austin Capps               Signed by Arkansas                             Rotates in the two deep
Jordan Jones               Signed by Arkansas                              To be Determined- Redshirt
Kabion Ento                 Signed by Colorado                               8 catches/174 yards -- 2 TDs
Nick McCann                Signed by Texas Tech                           Redshirt?
Damerea Crockett         Signed by Missouri                               Rushed for over 1000 yards
Cam Murray                 Signed by Okie State                              Redshirt  ?
Kenyon Jackson            Signed by Minnesota                             Redshirt


2013: http://espn.go.com/college-sports/football/recruiting/databaseresults?firstname=&lastname=&collegeid=&class=2013&position=&state=3

2014: http://espn.go.com/college-sports/football/recruiting/databaseresults?firstname=&lastname=&collegeid=&class=2014&position=&state=3

2015: http://espn.go.com/college-sports/football/recruiting/databaseresults?firstname=&lastname=&collegeid=&class=2015&position=&state=3

2016: http://espn.go.com/college-sports/football/recruiting/databaseresults?firstname=&lastname=&collegeid=&class=2016&position=&state=3

23 out of top 40 recruits have stayed with Arkansas.

I would say that Crockett was a miss but who knows what he would have done here.  He probably would have been red-shirted.

How many others were no offer misses?  Maybe Ento.

Out of all that I would say KJ Hill and Crockett were the misses and possiblly Ento... Honestly that is not bad.

We missed on Crockett due to being on bigger names.
Recruited Hill Hard but lost out.
Missed on Ento because of being on bigger names ( and getting most of them)
Could say Frazier but I wouldn't yet
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: NotSoFastMyFriend on January 16, 2017, 05:32:50 pm
Gerry has been on campus and is in contact with Barry Lunney Jr.. The staff evaluated him at QB over the summer because that's where he is determined to play in college. His determination to play QB at the next level may have changed in the last 7-8 months, I'm not sure. He seemed focused on it back in August.

As others have said, Connor Noland is the QB recruit for the 2018 class. I'm taking a wait-and-see approach here. It's early. Gerry is a tremendous athlete who will no doubt play at the next level.
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: Tick Hog on January 16, 2017, 05:36:49 pm
Jarvis cooper is a great example.  Kid was loved by ratings and such during his recruitment, but really didn't fit.  People were mad he went to Memphis and we didn't take a shot at him.  Not to bash a kid, but this staff has shown to be pretty good in these situations, there alwasy seems to be a kid a year that goes elsewhere that a few in Arkansas bash this staff for not taking a flyer on.  Think Bama wishes they only missed on one instate guy a year? UGA? LSU?  When you put things in perspective, losing 1 a year even if they pan out and or don't have an offer, this staff has done a great job of securing this state and the talent we have in it. 
This staff didn't even offer our best instate LB on campus right now until Georgia did. We let Missouri have a damn good RB that they will prob beat us with ( while we've taken several RB that haven't and won't sniff the field 1 from ark ). Your argument isn't apples to apples because those schools you mentioned have at least twice but mostly 3-4 times the kids to evaluate in their respected states. If you're going to have success here you don't have the luxury of missing much. This will post will prob be deleted because the truth hurts
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: ricepig on January 16, 2017, 05:56:25 pm
This staff didn't even offer our best instate LB on campus right now until Georgia did. We let Missouri have a damn good RB that they will prob beat us with ( while we've taken several RB that haven't and won't sniff the field 1 from ark ). Your argument isn't apples to apples because those schools you mentioned have at least twice but mostly 3-4 times the kids to evaluate in their respected states. If you're going to have success here you don't have the luxury of missing much. This will post will prob be deleted because the truth hurts

So, you rate Crockett ahead of both Whaley and Hammond's? As far Greenlaw, he was a tweeter, and it took a different set of eyes to put him at LB, Shannon didn't see it.
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: colbs on January 16, 2017, 06:25:23 pm
This staff didn't even offer our best instate LB on campus right now until Georgia did. We let Missouri have a damn good RB that they will prob beat us with ( while we've taken several RB that haven't and won't sniff the field 1 from ark ). Your argument isn't apples to apples because those schools you mentioned have at least twice but mostly 3-4 times the kids to evaluate in their respected states. If you're going to have success here you don't have the luxury of missing much. This will post will prob be deleted because the truth hurts
I'm almost positive Arkansas offered before UGA did.
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: onebadrubi on January 16, 2017, 06:31:36 pm
This staff didn't even offer our best instate LB on campus right now until Georgia did. We let Missouri have a damn good RB that they will prob beat us with ( while we've taken several RB that haven't and won't sniff the field 1 from ark ). Your argument isn't apples to apples because those schools you mentioned have at least twice but mostly 3-4 times the kids to evaluate in their respected states. If you're going to have success here you don't have the luxury of missing much. This will post will prob be deleted because the truth hurts

You end a small narrow minded post with an ignorant statement.

Our instate method of offering has been the exact same ever since Bielema came here. Greenlaws offer had NOTHING to do with Georgia's offer. You were probably one of those posters a year or two back mad we didn't offer a top prospect (might have been pettway) so early yet we got him to campus then a couple weeks later offered on his birthday.  They waited to make it a special thing and it worked out.

Crockett was not a miss when you Whaley and Hammonds in the same class and Hayden right behind them (yes I know they didn't know about Hayden at that time, but it's their job to make sure we get a top RB each year and they did).  If Crockett was such a miss what carries this year would you have given him???  Take some away from Whaley? Hammonds? Williams?  Who?  If you take them away from Williams then you are saying give a true freshman meaningful carries over a true freshman.  Whaley?  Oh so you're saying he's better than a top 3 RB in the nation that could go to ANY school he wanted?  Hammonds?  The kid that this board is already racing about we don't give it to enough.
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: Tick Hog on January 16, 2017, 06:43:24 pm

You end a small narrow minded post with an ignorant statement.

Our instate method of offering has been the exact same ever since Bielema came here. Greenlaws offer had NOTHING to do with Georgia's offer. You were probably one of those posters a year or two back mad we didn't offer a top prospect (might have been pettway) so early yet we got him to campus then a couple weeks later offered on his birthday.  They waited to make it a special thing and it worked out.

Crockett was not a miss when you Whaley and Hammonds in the same class and Hayden right behind them (yes I know they didn't know about Hayden at that time, but it's their job to make sure we get a top RB each year and they did).  If Crockett was such a miss what carries this year would you have given him???  Take some away from Whaley? Hammonds? Williams?  Who?  If you take them away from Williams then you are saying give a true freshman meaningful carries over a true freshman.  Whaley?  Oh so you're saying he's better than a top 3 RB in the nation that could go to ANY school he wanted?  Hammonds?  The kid that this board is already racing about we don't give it to enough.
I don't have to downgrade another to prove a point. Crockett's numbers speak for themselves. We whiffed. As for Greenlaw, we pay a staff well over 6 Mil dollars a year to not need a different set of eyes to recognize talent. They aren't very good at it. Period
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: Tick Hog on January 16, 2017, 06:46:00 pm
I don't have to downgrade another to prove a point. Crockett's numbers speak for themselves. We whiffed. As for Greenlaw, we pay a staff well over 6 Mil dollars a year to not need a different set of eyes to recognize talent. They aren't very good at it. Period. You're delusional if you think Georgias offer had nothing to do with ours LoL
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: Amityvillehogger on January 16, 2017, 06:56:10 pm
I don't have to downgrade another to prove a point. Crockett's numbers speak for themselves. We whiffed. As for Greenlaw, we pay a staff well over 6 Mil dollars a year to not need a different set of eyes to recognize talent. They aren't very good at it. Period

We whiffed? Who's he gonna get carries over?
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: imtad16 on January 16, 2017, 06:59:37 pm
Gerry has been on campus and is in contact with Barry Lunney Jr.. The staff evaluated him at QB over the summer because that's where he is determined to play in college. His determination to play QB at the next level may have changed in the last 7-8 months, I'm not sure. He seemed focused on it back in August.

As others have said, Connor Noland is the QB recruit for the 2018 class. I'm taking a wait-and-see approach here. It's early. Gerry is a tremendous athlete who will no doubt play at the next level.



Sounds like he has a good relationship with the staff and believes he will get an offer from Arkansas soon.

“I talked to Coach Lunney a lot," Bohanon said. “That’s my guy and he has been showing me interest since I was young." (From RD's most recent write up on Bohanon)
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: factchecker on January 16, 2017, 07:00:52 pm
This staff didn't even offer our best instate LB on campus right now until Georgia did.

https://twitter.com/ArRecruitingGuy/status/520474560458547201

https://twitter.com/OtisKirk247/status/522763440956260352


This will post will prob be deleted because the truth hurts

(http://i.imgur.com/mIHRBus.gif)

Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: factchecker on January 16, 2017, 07:03:30 pm
I'm almost positive Arkansas offered before UGA did.

We did.
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: imtad16 on January 16, 2017, 07:06:34 pm
I'm almost positive Arkansas offered before UGA did.


We did.


Yep. Georgia was a later offer. I remember being a little worried he would go visit.
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: onebadrubi on January 16, 2017, 07:30:14 pm
I don't have to downgrade another to prove a point. Crockett's numbers speak for themselves. We whiffed. As for Greenlaw, we pay a staff well over 6 Mil dollars a year to not need a different set of eyes to recognize talent. They aren't very good at it. Period

I didn't downgrade YOU, your point was narrow minded and you ended it with a very ignorant last sentence.  Also your point is far from correct.  To view ones end result numbers down not mean much of anything really, but that tends to be fans problems.  Many are so quick to want to bash a coach, a staff, or a player, they can't see the full picture or all other attributing factors.  To call it a whiff my taking Whaley and Hammonds and not extending an offer to crockett is doing just such simply because he put 1000 yards at a school known to throw it around against teams (so their defenses will be such to allow a few more yards) as well as a team that was truly in many ball games this year.  If you want to say well they beat Arkansas then it plays right into what I already described, you are more looking to put down the Arkansas team, staff, players/program than anything since Crockett had absolutely nothing to do with that game.
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: Hollywood870 on January 16, 2017, 07:47:22 pm
Keep trusting them. They need to be more aggressive with in state kids. People says Petrino got lucky with in state players. I believe luck has nothing to do with it. It was effort meets opportunity. We need some speed and atletchism on the defense.
Dennis Johnson and Tyler Wilson. Two Arkansas kids without UA offers until Petrino showed up.
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: Hollywood870 on January 16, 2017, 07:49:39 pm
We whiffed? Who's he gonna get carries over?
Doesn't matter. You stack em up. What if we have two RB's go down? It happens ALL of the time. Arkansas kids aren't good enough to play for THIS team.
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: Bubba's Bruisers on January 16, 2017, 07:50:07 pm
Dennis Johnson and Tyler Wilson. Two Arkansas kids without UA offers until Petrino showed up.

I seem to recall Wilson's situation.  Wasn't it a kid named Youngblood that Nutt had committed to play QB in that class?
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: factchecker on January 16, 2017, 07:52:27 pm
Dennis Johnson and Tyler Wilson. Two Arkansas kids without UA offers until Petrino showed up.

Kenneth Dixon and Martrell Spaight.  Two Arkansas kids who should have had offers from Arkansas when Petrino was here.
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: ricepig on January 16, 2017, 08:02:30 pm
Doesn't matter. You stack em up. What if we have two RB's go down? It happens ALL of the time. Arkansas kids aren't good enough to play for THIS team.

Are you kidding, you must have missed the threads about the QB and MLB all season......
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: VirginiaHog on January 16, 2017, 08:30:33 pm
Doesn't matter. You stack em up. What if we have two RB's go down? It happens ALL of the time. Arkansas kids aren't good enough to play for THIS team.
Yes it does. We did not whiff. We got who we wanted. He did well this year, just like several other freshman rbs. Doesn't make him better, nor do we take 3 or 4 rbs in one year.
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: Tick Hog on January 16, 2017, 08:36:44 pm
I didn't downgrade YOU, your point was narrow minded and you ended it with a very ignorant last sentence.  Also your point is far from correct.  To view ones end result numbers down not mean much of anything really, but that tends to be fans problems.  Many are so quick to want to bash a coach, a staff, or a player, they can't see the full picture or all other attributing factors.  To call it a whiff my taking Whaley and Hammonds and not extending an offer to crockett is doing just such simply because he put 1000 yards at a school known to throw it around against teams (so their defenses will be such to allow a few more yards) as well as a team that was truly in many ball games this year.  If you want to say well they beat Arkansas then it plays right into what I already described, you are more looking to put down the Arkansas team, staff, players/program than anything since Crockett had absolutely nothing to do with that game.
I didn't say you did, i was referring to me not being placed in a position to say that another player should have carries taken away. However to answer your question D Crockett rushed for 1062 and 10 TD's on a 153 attempts. Yes 153 attempts behind without question the worst offensive line in the SEC. Trust me he could have gotten carries. We'll just have to agree to disagree
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: ricepig on January 16, 2017, 08:41:09 pm
I didn't say you did, i was referring to me not being placed in a position to say that another player should have carries taken away. However to answer your question D Crockett rushed for 1062 and 10 TD's on a 153 attempts. Yes 153 attempts behind without question the worst offensive line in the SEC. Trust me he could have gotten carries. We'll just have to agree to disagree

Wait, I've read on HV numerous times that we had the worse line in all of football. Crockett had a great year, our RB's had a great year, it's OK if Arkansas kids have good years elsewhere. Two things, we don't get every recruit in the state, and occasionally, we miss on someone.
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: factchecker on January 16, 2017, 08:42:30 pm
Yes 153 attempts behind without question the worst offensive line in the SEC.

Mizzou had one of the best offensive lines in the SEC.

They only allowed 14 sacks (league best) and revamped their offense with Heupel and Glen Elarbee (offensive line coach).

http://www.cfbstats.com/2016/leader/911/team/defense/split01/category20/sort01.html (http://www.cfbstats.com/2016/leader/911/team/defense/split01/category20/sort01.html)
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: DoubleReedHawgCaller on January 16, 2017, 08:43:20 pm
Is he any kin to Alex Bohanon originally from Forrest City?
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: Bubba's Bruisers on January 16, 2017, 08:47:51 pm
The Crockett thing is overplayed.  We graded some guys ahead of him, and we got those guys.  It's not like we missed on the guys we wanted and still didn't offer Crockett.  And it's also not like other teams were banging Crockett's door down.

Norwood is playing out similarly assuming we get Calloway, but this latest barrage of Norwood offers from the big boys warrants at least some uneasiness.
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: Tick Hog on January 16, 2017, 08:51:31 pm
Mizzou had one of the best offensive lines in the SEC.

They only allowed 14 sacks (league best) and revamped their offense with Heupel and Glen Elarbee (offensive line coach).

http://www.cfbstats.com/2016/leader/911/team/defense/split01/category20/sort01.html (http://www.cfbstats.com/2016/leader/911/team/defense/split01/category20/sort01.html)
I watched them play several times and No they didn't. They were horrible
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: factchecker on January 16, 2017, 08:55:27 pm
I watched them play several times and No they didn't. They were horrible

I trust stats and the fact that Glen Elarbee was nominated for the Broyles award over you "watching a couple of games". 

Are you sure it wasn't Georgia you were watching?
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: imtad16 on January 16, 2017, 08:58:46 pm
Deangelo Williams... It's okay it happens.

Kenneth Dixon... It's okay it happens.

Demarea Crockett... It's okay it happens.
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: factchecker on January 16, 2017, 08:59:53 pm
Deangelo Williams... It's okay it happens.

I thought Deangelo was offered but sent his LOI with NO written across the front to Nutt.
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: Tick Hog on January 16, 2017, 09:00:41 pm
I trust stats and the fact that Glen Elarbee was nominated for the Broyles award over you "watching a couple of games". 

Are you sure it wasn't Georgia you weren't watching?
OK well you better watch out then, cause they're young and all coming back. I'll say they don't give up sacks because they throw quick outs all day but I can see your point.
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: Bubba's Bruisers on January 16, 2017, 09:01:14 pm
I thought Deangelo was offered but sent his LOI with NO written across the front to Nutt.

Yes, he was pursued by Nutt.  I think his mom signed the LOI, but he refused.
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: Tick Hog on January 16, 2017, 09:06:54 pm
Deangelo Williams... It's okay it happens.

Kenneth Dixon... It's okay it happens.

Demarea Crockett... It's okay it happens.
LaMichael James?
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: Letsroll1200 on January 16, 2017, 09:08:52 pm
Doesn't matter. You stack em up. What if we have two RB's go down? It happens ALL of the time. Arkansas kids aren't good enough to play for THIS team.

That's the attitude of this staff.
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: factchecker on January 16, 2017, 09:14:59 pm
That's the attitude of this staff.

Top 10 in-state recruits since Bielema has been here:

2013

Hunter Henry            Signed by Arkansas           Mackey Award Winner- San Diego Charger
Altee Tenpenny         Signed by Bama                              -
Brooks Ellis               Signed by Arkansas           Starting Linebacker (graduated)
Austin Allen              Signed by Arkansas            Starting Quarterback
Jamar Criswell           ?                                                   -
Martrell Spaight        Signed by Arkansas (JUCO)   Linebacker for Redskins
Tevin Beanum           Signed by Arkansas             In 2 deep
Korliss Marshall         Signed by Arkansas             Transfer to Eastern Illinois
Phillip Hay                 Signed by Harvard                              ?
Alex Brignoni             Signed by Arkansas             Medical Hardship

2014

Bijhon Jackson          Signed by Arkansas           In 2-deep rotation
Joshua Frazier           Signed by Bama               In 2-deep rotation (made tackle in playoff game)
Jabe Burgess             Signed by Tulsa                Transfer to Mississippi Gulf Coast CC (JUCO)
Josh Liddell               Signed by Arkansas           Starting Safety
Deandre Murray         Signed by Tulsa                Transfer to D2 Pittsburg State
Jake Hall                   Signed by Arkansas           Buried in depth chart
Juan Day                   Signed by Arkansas           Injuries
Jack Kraus                 Signed by Arkansas           2 deep rotation
Jarvis Cooper             Signed by Memphis            Transfer to UCA
Isaac Johnson            Signed by Tulsa                     ?

2015

K.J. Hill                     Signed by Ohio State                          Getting some playing time
C.J. O'Grady              Signed by Arkansas                             Getting playing time (caught TD in bowl game)
Will Gragg                 Signed by Arkansas                              To be Determined
Jamario Bell               Signed by Arkansas                             To be Determined
Dominique Reed         Signed by Arkansas (from JUCO)           Was key weapon in passing game last season
Justin Bailey               Signed by Arkansas Tech                                  ?
Ross Trail                   Signed by Cincinnati                              Played sparingly--threw for 1 TD and 6 INTs in 2016
Ty Storey                    Signed by Arkansas                              Buried in depth
LaMichael Pettway        Signed by Arkansas                              Caught TD pass vs. Alcorn
Deon Stewart               Signed by Arkansas                              Rotates in depth/ Kick Return

2016

McTelvin Agim             Signed by Arkansas                            Starting defensive linemen
T.J. Hammonds           Signed by Arkansas                             Bright future in running back rotation
John Tate                   Signed by Memphis                               Redshirt?
Austin Capps               Signed by Arkansas                             Rotates in the two deep
Jordan Jones               Signed by Arkansas                              To be Determined- Redshirt
Kabion Ento                 Signed by Colorado                               8 catches/174 yards -- 2 TDs
Nick McCann                Signed by Texas Tech                           Redshirt?
Damerea Crockett         Signed by Missouri                               Rushed for over 1000 yards
Cam Murray                 Signed by Okie State                              Redshirt  ?
Kenyon Jackson            Signed by Minnesota                             Redshirt


2013: http://espn.go.com/college-sports/football/recruiting/databaseresults?firstname=&lastname=&collegeid=&class=2013&position=&state=3

2014: http://espn.go.com/college-sports/football/recruiting/databaseresults?firstname=&lastname=&collegeid=&class=2014&position=&state=3

2015: http://espn.go.com/college-sports/football/recruiting/databaseresults?firstname=&lastname=&collegeid=&class=2015&position=&state=3

2016: http://espn.go.com/college-sports/football/recruiting/databaseresults?firstname=&lastname=&collegeid=&class=2016&position=&state=3

23 out of top 40 recruits have stayed with Arkansas.

I would say that Crockett was a miss but who knows what he would have done here.  He probably would have been red-shirted.

How many others were no offer misses?  Maybe Ento.
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: factchecker on January 16, 2017, 09:16:10 pm
That's the attitude of this staff.

23 out of top 40 recruits have stayed with Arkansas.

How many of those who weren't offered were misses.  1.... 2

Go back to pumping Mike up on Jumpball.... you're outta your league here son.
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: clutch on January 16, 2017, 09:16:20 pm
LaMichael James?

Technically from Texas, but close enough to the Arkansas line that I guess you could count him.
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: Hawg Life on January 16, 2017, 09:33:43 pm
I seem to recall Wilson's situation.  Wasn't it a kid named Youngblood that Nutt had committed to play QB in that class?

It was I believe Youngblood ended up @ Ole Miss.
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: colbs on January 16, 2017, 09:35:05 pm
It was I believe Youngblood ended up @ Ole Miss.
Jim Youngblood signed with the Hogs but I think transferred to UCA.
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: Letsroll1200 on January 16, 2017, 09:36:11 pm
23 out of top 40 recruits have stayed with Arkansas.

How many of those who weren't offered were misses.  1.... 2

Go back to pumping Mike up on Jumpball.... you're outta your league here son.

It starts with recruiting and the Hogs are not doing too well. You're not winning on the field and you're not winning in recruiting. We are missing some in state talent that can help with the right development.
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: hawginbigd1 on January 16, 2017, 09:38:03 pm
Deangelo Williams... It's okay it happens.

Kenneth Dixon... It's okay it happens.

Demarea Crockett... It's okay it happens.
Your right it does happen, I would go more it is what it is than OK. Deangelo I wouldn't put in the same category, my opinion at the time was he didn't like the depth chart, and chose the safer alternative. I really wanted him though, we definitely had one or two I would have cut for him.

My problem is the attitude that seems to pervade when one of these players is mentioned by some posters, IMO Crockett wanted to be a Hog and we should have given him the opportunity in the end. He could have ended up being Juan Day or one of a handful of other in-state backs that didn't pan out, but I thought he was worth an open scholarship we carried over to this year! I am not even saying it was a mistake, I am saying it is my opinion of what should have been done.
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: ricepig on January 16, 2017, 09:38:07 pm
It starts with recruiting and the Hogs are not doing too well. You're not winning on the field and you're not winning in recruiting. We are missing some in state talent that can help with the right development.

Recruiting rankings are higher on average than the previous two staffs.
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: Razorbax on January 16, 2017, 09:39:22 pm
Lol....I guess every other power 5 team missed out on Kenneth Dixon...His offers:

Louisiana Tech
Arkansas State
Central Arkansas
Louisiana-Monroe
Memphis
Missouri State

As for Martrell Spaight...did he even have the grades? Or, did he even have an offer from a 4-year school? It seems like he was a late bloomer, Per 247, he didn't even make the state top 25.
Kenneth Dixon and Martrell Spaight.  Two Arkansas kids who should have had offers from Arkansas when Petrino was here.
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: factchecker on January 16, 2017, 09:40:41 pm
It starts with recruiting and the Hogs are not doing too well. You're not winning on the field and you're not winning in recruiting. We are missing some in state talent that can help with the right development.

The most hurtful misses are the kids we offered.

Tenpenny, K.J., Frazier all could have helped.

Similar to Monk, Allen, and Curry in basketball.

The Crockett miss is countered by getting Whaley.  Going to Mizzou might have been the best thing for Crockett b/c he is going to get tons of reps and develop a strong draft resume.

Norwood is boggling b/c far as I know there is no academic or off the field issues.  The whole situation is weird.  Why are their so many offers coming right now?  What was stopping other teams from offering?  Fort Smith isn't a tiny town.
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: factchecker on January 16, 2017, 09:43:10 pm
Lol....I guess every other power 5 team missed out on Kenneth Dixon...His offers:

Louisiana Tech
Arkansas State
Central Arkansas
Louisiana-Monroe
Memphis
Missouri State

As for Martrell Spaight...did he even have the grades? Or, did he even have an offer from a 4-year school? It seems like he was a late bloomer, Per 247, he didn't even make the state top 25.

Spaight had the grades but was told he was too small by Petrino's staff.

Quote
His boy, the one staff members under former Arkansas coach Bobby Petrino said was "too small" to play in the SEC, had proven his doubters wrong.

"To have coaches saying what you can't do, and then you're here doing it, that's fun," Mark Spaight said. "I think I was most excited about that moment for him."

http://collegefootball.ap.org/article/spaight-excelling-linebacker-arkansas (http://collegefootball.ap.org/article/spaight-excelling-linebacker-arkansas)

I don't care about Dixon's offer sheet.  Anyone who saw his film knew he was a stud in the making.  It wasn't like Bobby was recruiting top 10 classes.  Dixon proved everybody who doubted him wrong.
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: ricepig on January 16, 2017, 09:45:51 pm
The most hurtful misses are the kids we offered.

Tenpenny, K.J., Frazier all could have helped.

Similar to Monk, Allen, and Curry in basketball.

The Crockett miss is countered by getting Whaley.  Going to Mizzou might have been the best thing for Crockett b/c he is going to get tons of reps and develop a strong draft resume.

Norwood is boggling b/c far as I know there is no academic or off the field issues.  The whole situation is weird.  Why are their so many offers coming right now?  What was stopping other teams from offering?  Fort Smith isn't a tiny town.

Norwood came to camp, we evaluated and liked others better. If we strike out on our remaining DB targets, then potentially we should have offered. What little I saw of him this year was clips of him playing QB, he looked real small out there. He's athletic, no doubt, I guess these other schools are worried about their DB prospects?
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: factchecker on January 16, 2017, 09:46:47 pm
Recruiting rankings are higher on average than the previous two staffs.

2002: 25  http://247sports.com/Season/2002-Football/CompositeTeamRankings
2003: 42  http://247sports.com/Season/2003-Football/CompositeTeamRankings
2004: 24  http://247sports.com/Season/2004-Football/CompositeTeamRankings
2005: 28  http://247sports.com/Season/2005-Football/CompositeTeamRankings
2006: 25  http://247sports.com/Season/2006-Football/CompositeTeamRankings
2007: 38  http://247sports.com/Season/2007-Football/CompositeTeamRankings

Houston Nutt’s Average Recruiting Class(final 6 cycles):  30.3

2008: 27  http://247sports.com/Season/2008-Football/CompositeTeamRankings
2009: 21  http://247sports.com/Season/2009-Football/CompositeTeamRankings
2010: 41  http://247sports.com/Season/2010-Football/CompositeTeamRankings
2011: 21  http://247sports.com/Season/2011-Football/CompositeTeamRankings
2012: 28  http://247sports.com/Season/2012-Football/CompositeTeamRankings

Bobby Petrino’s Average Recruiting Class: 27.6

2013: 23  http://247sports.com/Season/2013-Football/CompositeTeamRankings
2014: 29  http://247sports.com/Season/2014-Football/CompositeTeamRankings
2015: 23  http://247sports.com/Season/2015-Football/CompositeTeamRankings
2016: 26  http://247sports.com/Season/2016-Football/CompositeTeamRankings

Bret Bielema’s Average Recruiting Class: 25.25
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: Razorbax on January 16, 2017, 09:51:06 pm
So which P5 staff told him he was big enough? Did Wisconsin see something CBP didn't and offer him?
Spaight had the grades but was told he was too small by Petrino's staff.

http://collegefootball.ap.org/article/spaight-excelling-linebacker-arkansas (http://collegefootball.ap.org/article/spaight-excelling-linebacker-arkansas)

His film was hidden from all power 5 teams?
I don't care about Dixon's offer sheet. Anyone who saw his film knew he was a stud in the making.  It wasn't like Bobby was recruiting top 10 classes.  Dixon proved everybody who doubted him wrong.
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: factchecker on January 16, 2017, 09:56:06 pm
So which P5 staff told him he was big enough? Did Wisconsin see something CBP didn't and offer him?
His film was hidden from all power 5 teams?

I didn't know the University of Wisconsin is in the state of Arkansas.  Petrino could of rode his Harley down to NLR and saw what Spaight was.

Petrino offered Donovan Roberts over Dixon..... stupid.
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: Razorbax on January 16, 2017, 09:56:45 pm
So are you telling me we have better/higher ranked players but we are losing at a higher clip? Wonder why that might be.........
2002: 25  http://247sports.com/Season/2002-Football/CompositeTeamRankings
2003: 42  http://247sports.com/Season/2003-Football/CompositeTeamRankings
2004: 24  http://247sports.com/Season/2004-Football/CompositeTeamRankings
2005: 28  http://247sports.com/Season/2005-Football/CompositeTeamRankings
2006: 25  http://247sports.com/Season/2006-Football/CompositeTeamRankings
2007: 38  http://247sports.com/Season/2007-Football/CompositeTeamRankings

Houston Nutt’s Average Recruiting Class(final 6 cycles):  30.3

2008: 27  http://247sports.com/Season/2008-Football/CompositeTeamRankings
2009: 21  http://247sports.com/Season/2009-Football/CompositeTeamRankings
2010: 41  http://247sports.com/Season/2010-Football/CompositeTeamRankings
2011: 21  http://247sports.com/Season/2011-Football/CompositeTeamRankings
2012: 28  http://247sports.com/Season/2012-Football/CompositeTeamRankings

Bobby Petrino’s Average Recruiting Class: 27.6

2013: 23  http://247sports.com/Season/2013-Football/CompositeTeamRankings
2014: 29  http://247sports.com/Season/2014-Football/CompositeTeamRankings
2015: 23  http://247sports.com/Season/2015-Football/CompositeTeamRankings
2016: 26  http://247sports.com/Season/2016-Football/CompositeTeamRankings

Bret Bielema’s Average Recruiting Class: 25.25
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: hawgfan4life on January 16, 2017, 10:07:24 pm
Remember when BP passed on another RB from Little Rock rated much higher than Crockett?  Kid went to Auburn and was player of the game in the NC game or at least a key player in that game.  Fans really were mad at BP until that same player ended up in all kinds of trouble at AUB, kicked from team, went to ASU and kicked from the team, and ironically ended up at Louisville with BP.  Crockett had a great year until he got suspended for the last game against AR.  AR may have whiffed, but it is far too early to make that claim yet.
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: Razorbax on January 16, 2017, 10:12:08 pm
So Wisconsin only recruits instate? 
I didn't know the University of Wisconsin is in the state of Arkansas.
Did he even have his Harley in 2011? Perhaps he was too busy game planning for the back to back 10 win seasons
Petrino could of rode his Harley down to NLR and saw what Spaight was.
Is hindsight really 20/20?
I was pretty pissed we didn't offer the basketball walk-on who did so well at UCA........Imagine what we could do as a team if we can go back in time and recruit after the fact. JJ Watt, come on down.
Petrino offered Donovan Roberts over Dixon..... stupid.
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: factchecker on January 16, 2017, 10:16:29 pm
So are you telling me we have better/higher ranked players but we are losing at a higher clip? Wonder why that might be.........

I don't have to tell you anything..... open your eyes and read the information.

The fact that you get so pissy when someone dares to offend your man is laughable.  Ask me how I feel about Bielema and I'll tell you.  Our special teams has been garbage since he's been here.  Our inability to close out games is maddening.  Our defense is disgusting.  When Bielema leaves/fired/whatever I'm not going to go around the message board looking to white knight for him regardless of how many wins he finishes with.

Petrino whiffed..... just like other Razorback coaches.  Just like Les Miles did with Dak Prescott.  It happens. Petrino missed out on Michael Dyer and Zac Brooks despite offering them.  It happens.

Petrino was a good on-field coach.  He is pretty smart offensively.  We are talking recruiting here and that is an area where Petrino struggles.  Bielema isn't a recruiting god either but he is competing against much stronger competition with Hugh at Ole Miss and AnM in the league now.

Now reply with a comment quoting everything I say in an attempt to defend your man Petrino.  I hope you wear a helmet.
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: onebadrubi on January 16, 2017, 10:23:29 pm
Doesn't matter. You stack em up. What if we have two RB's go down? It happens ALL of the time. Arkansas kids aren't good enough to play for THIS team.

Why do people not realize that when they end their post with complete BS it makes everything else they say BS?
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: onebadrubi on January 16, 2017, 10:26:05 pm
23 out of top 40 recruits have stayed with Arkansas.

How many of those who weren't offered were misses.  1.... 2

Go back to pumping Mike up on Jumpball.... you're outta your league here son.

It's really funny the guys right now like FCJ and others pumping Anderson and dogging Bielema for the same exact reasons
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: onebadrubi on January 16, 2017, 10:27:35 pm
It starts with recruiting and the Hogs are not doing too well. You're not winning on the field and you're not winning in recruiting. We are missing some in state talent that can help with the right development.

Where???  We want these names of kids we are missing on, getting lesser talent, and causing us to lose games? 
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: factchecker on January 16, 2017, 10:29:02 pm
Where???  We want these names of kids we are missing on, getting lesser talent, and causing us to lose games?

He hasn't given me one name.

I said Crockett and perhaps Norwood were non-offer misses but they failed to name anybody else..... despite me giving them the list.
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: Razorbax on January 16, 2017, 10:56:50 pm
Can you read with your eyes closed?
I don't have to tell you anything..... open your eyes and read the information.

My man? We must hang in different companies. So not agreeing equals prissy.....Laughable? I am sure waiting with abated breath while searching and finding an error so you can gleefully "factcheck" them must be laughable. Whatever floats your boat.
The fact that you get so pissy when someone dares to offend your man is laughable.

I really do not care what you think when it comes to CBB. I am sure some of your best friends are CBP supporters.
Ask me how I feel about Bielema and I'll tell you.  Our special teams has been garbage since he's been here.  Our inability to close out games is maddening.  Our defense is disgusting.

Funny...Pretty much every thread where CBP comes up, you are in the middle of it hiding opinions with facts and demanding we accept it all as fact.
When Bielema leaves/fired/whatever I'm not going to go around the message board looking to white knight for him regardless of how many wins he finishes with.

Something we can agree on
Petrino whiffed..... just like other Razorback coaches.  Just like Les Miles did with Dak Prescott.  It happens. He missed out on Michael Dyer and Zac Brooks despite offering them.  It happens.

It is not about the recruiting rankings. Recruiting is just one leg of many that lead to victories out on the field. I could care less if CBB's average was in the 50s. What matters are the wins and losses. You are too stuck in the minutiae and not focused on winning 
Petrino was a good on-field coach.  He is pretty smart offensively.  We are talking recruiting here and that is an area where Petrino struggles.  Bielema isn't a recruiting god either but he is competing against much stronger competition with Hugh at Ole Miss and AnM in the league now.

Wasn;t going to.....But you asked and I complied. See, we can get along.
Now reply with someone comment quoting everything I say defending your man Petrino.  I hope you wear a helmet.

Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: onebadrubi on January 16, 2017, 11:04:09 pm
Can you read with your eyes closed?
My man? We must hang in different companies. So not agreeing equals prissy.....Laughable? I am sure waiting with abated breath while searching and finding an error so you can gleefully "factcheck" them must be laughable. Whatever floats your boat.
I really do not care what you think when it comes to CBB. I am sure some of your best friends are CBP supporters. 
Funny...Pretty much every thread where CBP comes up, you are in the middle of it hiding opinions with facts and demanding we accept it all as fact.
Something we can agree on
It is not about the recruiting rankings. Recruiting is just one leg of many that lead to victories out on the field. I could care less if CBB's average was in the 50s. What matters are the wins and losses. You are too stuck in the minutiae and not focused on winning 
Wasn;t going to.....But you asked and I complied. See, we can get along.

In the recruiting forum it actually is.
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: imtad16 on January 16, 2017, 11:08:08 pm
He hasn't given me one name.

I said Crockett and perhaps Norwood were non-offer misses but they failed to name anybody else..... despite me giving them the list.


Plus, we have always had good running backs. Missing on running backs is much more forgivable than positions we have had depth issues at in recent history like LB or DB or on defense in general.


When Dixon was in school we had good running backs the whole time and While Crockett is in school we are going to have good running backs the whole time like 3 or 4 of them. Chase Hayden is probably going to be pretty salty too and that's not including Maleek Williams. There's just no need to make this big of a deal over a missed running back. That hasn't been an issue. If this happened on the defensive side of the ball sure we should all be flipping out.
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: factchecker on January 16, 2017, 11:12:43 pm
It is not about the recruiting rankings.

We are on the recruiting board.... so yeah we talk about recruiting rankings.

If you don't think recruiting is important then why are you here?
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: imtad16 on January 16, 2017, 11:13:29 pm
He hasn't given me one name.

I said Crockett and perhaps Norwood were non-offer misses but they failed to name anybody else..... despite me giving them the list.


I am intrigued by the late offers for Norwood, but it seems more difficult to determine a miss on a CB. If a RB rushes for at least 1,000 yards its easy to say oh well we missed. What does it take for us to look at a CB in hind site and say we missed?
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: factchecker on January 16, 2017, 11:17:07 pm

I am intrigued by the late offers for Norwood, but it seems more difficult to determine a miss on a CB. If a RB rushes for at least 1,000 yards its easy to say oh well we missed. What does it take for us to look at a CB in hind site and say we missed?

Our defense?  It depends on who we sign.  If we get any combination of Curl and Calloway then it won't be much of a miss.  However, if we don't get either then it will be bad.  Also, if Norwood starts for any other team his freshman year.... especially one in the SEC, it will be a miss.
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: Razorbax on January 16, 2017, 11:25:48 pm
Is that all we talk about? Majority of the topics/post on this forum does not mention recruiting rankings.
We are on the recruiting board.... so yeah we talk about recruiting rankings.

Tsk...Tsk...Dishonesty does not suit your moniker.....Add the rest of my statement you are quoting...."Recruiting is just one leg of many that lead to victories out on the field. I could care less if CBB's average was in the 50s. What matters are the wins and losses. You are too stuck in the minutiae and not focused on winning" Where we rank when it comes to recruiting takes a very distant seat to where we rank in wins and losses.
If you don't think recruiting is important then why are you here?
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: Deep Shoat on January 16, 2017, 11:29:58 pm
Is that all we talk about? Majority of the topics/post on this forum does not mention recruiting rankings.
Tsk...Tsk...Dishonesty does not suit your moniker.....Add the rest of my statement you are quoting...."Recruiting is just one leg of many that lead to victories out on the field. I could care less if CBB's average was in the 50s. What matters are the wins and losses. You are too stuck in the minutiae and not focused on winning" Where we rank when it comes to recruiting takes a very distant seat to where we rank in wins and losses.
I think his point was that YOU ARE POSTING IN THE RECRUITING FORUM, so recruiting rankings are SUPPOSED to be talked about here.

Wins and losses or any other metric?  Not so much.
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: HardingHog on January 16, 2017, 11:39:09 pm
https://twitter.com/DamareaCrockett/status/821179648331710464

It sounds like he's still smokin the reefer, so we made a good choice
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: Razorbax on January 17, 2017, 12:05:18 am
And I said we shouldn't?
I think his point was that YOU ARE POSTING IN THE RECRUITING FORUM, so recruiting rankings are SUPPOSED to be talked about here.

Wins and losses or any other metric?  Not so much.
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: 31to6 on January 17, 2017, 12:19:42 am
I don't have to downgrade another to prove a point. Crockett's numbers speak for themselves. We whiffed. As for Greenlaw, we pay a staff well over 6 Mil dollars a year to not need a different set of eyes to recognize talent. They aren't very good at it. Period
Crockett was pressed into service because of zero depth at Mizzou and he excelled, good for him.

That does not mean that the staff whiffed. They had the RBs they wanted in Devwah Whaley and TJ Hammond, both of which have shown talent at equal to Crockett but who have not been asked to carry the load as freshmen because RWIII was rock solid.

Crying over us "missing" on a RB is just silly given the RB's productivity under CBB. The only really big in-state RB miss we have had is signing Korliss Marshall, who had all the physical tools, but a huge dose of immaturity to go with it.

When CBB goes a year without an All-SEC RB, *then* people can complain about "misses" at RB.
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: Boss Hog in the Arkansas on January 17, 2017, 07:49:23 am
We have our 2018 QB named Connor Noland.
ATHLETE/QB
He has the size and speed to be used at other positions. A good coach will recruit him and find a place for him
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: Deep Shoat on January 17, 2017, 07:51:46 am
ATHLETE/QB
He has the size and speed to be used at other positions. A good coach will recruit him and find a place for him
Yeah, that worked out so well with Duwop...
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: ricepig on January 17, 2017, 07:56:52 am
ATHLETE/QB
He has the size and speed to be used at other positions. A good coach will recruit him and find a place for him

If you read the article on him yesterday, his coach said he puts down "QB" on the form for position. Most schools are recruiting him as an athlete, but Memphis and ASU have offered as a QB. The P5 schools are looking at DE/LB for him.
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: Letsroll1200 on January 17, 2017, 09:36:17 am
He hasn't given me one name.

I said Crockett and perhaps Norwood were non-offer misses but they failed to name anybody else..... despite me giving them the list.

KJ Hill
Josh Frazier
 Two other guys I believe could have played for the hogs are John Tate from Pine Bluff and Kiondre Thomas from Fort Smith.

Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: onebadrubi on January 17, 2017, 09:42:17 am
KJ Hill
Josh Frazier
 Two other guys I believe could have played for the hogs are John Tate from Pine Bluff and Kiondre Thomas from Fort Smith.

Oh I almost forgot that we did not offer KJ Hill and Josh Frazier because we took higher instate recruits and top 2-3 nationally recruited guys at each of their positions. 
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: imtad16 on January 17, 2017, 09:43:26 am
KJ Hill
Josh Frazier
 Two other guys I believe could have played for the hogs are John Tate from Pine Bluff and Kiondre Thomas from Fort Smith.





KJ Hill and Josh Frazier were top prospects with offers from everyone. The guys being talked about in the thread were prospects that were borderline 3 stars and in Crockett's case borderline 4 star that we let get away. Even though Crockett was a 4 star by rivals (3 star by all the other services) he didn't have big offers. Anyway, we would have loved to have Hill and Frazier that wasn't a case we either offered too late or not at all.
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: Jim Harris on January 17, 2017, 09:47:35 am
I watched them play several times and No they didn't. They were horrible

Missouri led the SEC in total yards per game. They led the conference in passing yards per game at 295.4.
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: woodrow hog call on January 17, 2017, 09:59:05 am
 ::)
Missouri led the SEC in total yards per game. They led the conference in passing yards per game at 295.4.

We should go after their OC hard  then, if they did all of that with the "worst O Line in the conference",  ::)
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: Deep Shoat on January 17, 2017, 11:45:01 am
KJ Hill
Josh Frazier
 Two other guys I believe could have played for the hogs are John Tate from Pine Bluff and Kiondre Thomas from Fort Smith.
Hill and Frazier had offers.  Read, dammit.  They weren't misses.  They chose somewhere else over the Hogs.

And what you BELIEVE doesn't mater in this conversation.  Have they done something elsewhere that makes it a logical argument to call them misses?
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: J-Five on January 17, 2017, 12:06:52 pm
6'4" 215. Line him up out side and convert him to WR.

I'm SO sick of this narrative.  That's one reason we will never get an athletic QB on the hill.  If I'm not mistaken, EVERY black QB that has gone to AR since the 90's has either been changed to WR or has transferred.  Why would an athletic black QB (or even a non-black one) want to come to U of A when they've seen what has happened to athletic QBs?  Serious question.....

Cedric Washington- Dual Threat QB in HS-  WR at Arkansas
Tarvaris Jackson- transferred to Alabama State (NFL backup QB for several years and lasted longer in the league than the guy who took his spot at Arkansas)
Duwop Mitchell-3 Star Dual Threat QB in HS- WR at Arkansas and eventually transferred.
Robert Johnson- changed to WR
Rafe Peavey-never touched the field (4-star QB in HS)

These guys were good enough to recruit, but why were they not developed?  Were they THAT bad when they got to the Hill that they couldn't be helped?  I wish I knew the answers to these questions, because seeing a guy like Lamar Jackson at Louisville (who was a 3-star I believe) tear it up, just annoys the hell out of me when we could have the same at Arkansas. 
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: onebadrubi on January 17, 2017, 12:23:07 pm
I'm SO sick of this narrative.  That's one reason we will never get an athletic QB on the hill.  If I'm not mistaken, EVERY black QB that has gone to AR since the 90's has either been changed to WR or has transferred.  Why would an athletic black QB (or even a non-black one) want to come to U of A when they've seen what has happened to athletic QBs?  Serious question.....

Cedric Washington- Dual Threat QB in HS-  WR at Arkansas
Tarvaris Jackson- transferred to Alabama State (NFL backup QB for several years and lasted longer in the league than the guy who took his spot at Arkansas)
Duwop Mitchell-3 Star Dual Threat QB in HS- WR at Arkansas and eventually transferred.
Robert Johnson- changed to WR
Rafe Peavey-never touched the field (4-star QB in HS)

These guys were good enough to recruit, but why were they not developed?  Were they THAT bad when they got to the Hill that they couldn't be helped?  I wish I knew the answers to these questions, because seeing a guy like Lamar Jackson at Louisville (who was a 3-star I believe) tear it up, just annoys the hell out of me when we could have the same at Arkansas.

Rage Peavy was black???  I don't think I knew that. 

Race means absolutely nothing in this debate. Keep it to this head coach only and let's discuss.

Brandon Mitchell was beat out by a QB on an NFL roster
Duwop recruited as athlete but promised the "chance" to earn the Qb spot. He couldn't even beat out rage peavy, wanted playing time and went to the coaching staff asking what he could do to get it. Was put in at safety in offseason didn't much like it then tried WR and on to RB.

Just cause one 3 star blows up doesn't mean they all will, geeze
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: Grizzlyfan on January 17, 2017, 01:11:44 pm
I'm SO sick of this narrative.  That's one reason we will never get an athletic QB on the hill.  If I'm not mistaken, EVERY black QB that has gone to AR since the 90's has either been changed to WR or has transferred.  Why would an athletic black QB (or even a non-black one) want to come to U of A when they've seen what has happened to athletic QBs?  Serious question.....

Cedric Washington- Dual Threat QB in HS-  WR at Arkansasat Arkansas)
Duwop Mitchell-3 Star Dual Threat QB in HS- WR at Arkansas and eventually transferred.
Robert Johnson- changed to WR
Tarvaris Jackson- transferred to Alabama State (NFL backup QB for several years and lasted longer in the league than the guy who took his spot
Rafe Peavey-never touched the field (4-star QB in HS)

These guys were good enough to recruit, but why were they not developed?  Were they THAT bad when they got to the Hill that they couldn't be helped?  I wish I knew the answers to these questions, because seeing a guy like Lamar Jackson at Louisville (who was a 3-star I believe) tear it up, just annoys the hell out of me when we could have the same at Arkansas.
Rafe Peavey?  Uh.........
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: Peter Porker on January 17, 2017, 01:13:28 pm
Bama probably wants to put 20lbs on and make him a LB.

as long as its "good weight".
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: The_Iceman on January 17, 2017, 01:19:54 pm
Cole Kelley
Daulton Hyatt
Connor Noland

We've got a good group of QBs going forward.
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: Nosboar Accubond on January 17, 2017, 01:28:18 pm
Ok, so let Whaley a top RB in the nation go and to recruit Crockett.  Makes perfect sense!  Geeze people will never let this Crockett thing go.
You totally missed the point...

My point was that until I see players from Arkansas contributing big at other schools I am not worried about this issue.

People respond to that point by point out Crockett... to which I respond he wanted to play RB, not CB. And we were all shored up at RB...
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: ChicoHog on January 17, 2017, 02:37:05 pm
I'm SO sick of this narrative.  That's one reason we will never get an athletic QB on the hill.  If I'm not mistaken, EVERY black QB that has gone to AR since the 90's has either been changed to WR or has transferred.  Why would an athletic black QB (or even a non-black one) want to come to U of A when they've seen what has happened to athletic QBs?  Serious question.....

Cedric Washington- Dual Threat QB in HS-  WR at Arkansas
Tarvaris Jackson- transferred to Alabama State (NFL backup QB for several years and lasted longer in the league than the guy who took his spot at Arkansas)
Duwop Mitchell-3 Star Dual Threat QB in HS- WR at Arkansas and eventually transferred.
Robert Johnson- changed to WR
Rafe Peavey-never touched the field (4-star QB in HS)

These guys were good enough to recruit, but why were they not developed?  Were they THAT bad when they got to the Hill that they couldn't be helped?  I wish I knew the answers to these questions, because seeing a guy like Lamar Jackson at Louisville (who was a 3-star I believe) tear it up, just annoys the hell out of me when we could have the same at Arkansas. 
Don't remember Washington
T. Jackson was more a drop back guy than a dual threat guy.  Did well after he transferred.
Johnson was at QB for half a season and was not good at all.  Then we pulled the redshirt off Casey dick to finish 2005.  RJ was not a good QB.  Blame it on development or him, I don't know, but it was the right decision to move him.
Mitchell situation explained by earlier poster. 
Peavey was in a log jam and was not going to play much so he transferred also. 
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: onebadrubi on January 17, 2017, 03:17:11 pm
You totally missed the point...

My point was that until I see players from Arkansas contributing big at other schools I am not worried about this issue.

People respond to that point by point out Crockett... to which I respond he wanted to play RB, not CB. And we were all shored up at RB...

My apologies, I sure did
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: factchecker on January 17, 2017, 04:17:53 pm
He hasn't given me one name.

I said Crockett and perhaps Norwood were non-offer misses but they failed to name anybody else..... despite me giving them the list.

KJ Hill
Josh Frazier

 Two other guys I believe could have played for the hogs are John Tate from Pine Bluff and Kiondre Thomas from Fort Smith.

NON-OFFER MISSES

We offered both of those players.  KJ Hill was committed to us for a good amount of time.

Both John (Memphis) and Kiondre (Minnesota) red-shirted for their respective teams so I don't know how you can claim that they are a miss or that they would be getting playing time.... yet.
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: J-Five on January 17, 2017, 04:39:11 pm
Rage Peavy was black???  I don't think I knew that. 

Race means absolutely nothing in this debate. Keep it to this head coach only and let's discuss.

Brandon Mitchell was beat out by a QB on an NFL roster
Duwop recruited as athlete but promised the "chance" to earn the Qb spot. He couldn't even beat out rage peavy, wanted playing time and went to the coaching staff asking what he could do to get it. Was put in at safety in offseason didn't much like it then tried WR and on to RB.

Just cause one 3 star blows up doesn't mean they all will, geeze


First, I know Peavy isn't black. Second, if you re-read what I wrote, I said "non-black" in there as well....third, the only reason I bring up race is because the majority of athletic QBs that I'm referring to are predominately black. That's why I mentioned Peavy also to show I didn't care what race the kid is, I just want an athletic QB, as opposed to a pocket passer...hope that clarifies things....
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: ricepig on January 17, 2017, 04:48:02 pm

First, I know Peavy isn't black. Second, if you re-read what I wrote, I said "non-black" in there as well....third, the only reason I bring up race is because the majority of athletic QBs that I'm referring to are predominately black. That's why I mentioned Peavy also to show I didn't care what race the kid is, I just want an athletic QB, as opposed to a pocket passer...hope that clarifies things....

I'd like a pocket passer who is athletic.
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: Hollywood870 on January 17, 2017, 04:49:47 pm
I thought Deangelo was offered but sent his LOI with NO written across the front to Nutt.
That was Dyer.
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: ricepig on January 17, 2017, 04:54:38 pm
That was Dyer.

Williams did the same.
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: Hollywood870 on January 17, 2017, 04:54:53 pm
David Porter and Culian Williams (sp) this year. Watch.
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: Hollywood870 on January 17, 2017, 05:00:18 pm
::)
We should go after their OC hard  then, if they did all of that with the "worst O Line in the conference",  ::)
Here are some highlights from our OC and O-Line. It's only four minutes long. Have a look.
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: Hawgar The Horrible on January 17, 2017, 05:39:53 pm
I am an Irish, Anglo-Saxon male that can see this thread is beyond full-on crap.
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: Vantage 8 dude on January 17, 2017, 05:54:17 pm
As far as I'm concerned before I go into a melt down concerning this young man I'll wait to see where he ends up signing before I get bent out of shape or offer an opinion on the whole issue. Then again for SOME that's obviously too much of a calm response.
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: ricepig on January 17, 2017, 06:02:49 pm
I am an Irish, Anglo-Saxon male that can see this thread is beyond full-on crap.

I'm Scottish, you got a problem with that?
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: factchecker on January 17, 2017, 07:03:36 pm
That was Dyer.

Dyer was with Petrino.... he said some stuff on a video but I'm not sure he did anything on signing day.

Dangelo Williams sent Nutt his LOI with NO written across the front.
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: factchecker on January 17, 2017, 07:06:36 pm
Here are some highlights from our OC and O-Line. It's only four minutes long. Have a look.

Here are some highlights vs. SEC East champ Florida:

Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: Hawgar The Horrible on January 17, 2017, 08:38:38 pm
I'm Scottish, you got a problem with that?

To be more specific, I'm Scots-Irish. We're cool as long as you're a Protestant. Otherwise I will bomb you into oblivion.
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: Pig in the Pokey on January 17, 2017, 08:47:20 pm
Rage Peavy was black???  I don't think I knew that. 

Race means absolutely nothing in this debate. Keep it to this head coach only and let's discuss.

Brandon Mitchell was beat out by a QB on an NFL roster
Duwop recruited as athlete but promised the "chance" to earn the Qb spot. He couldn't even beat out rage peavy, wanted playing time and went to the coaching staff asking what he could do to get it. Was put in at safety in offseason didn't much like it then tried WR and on to RB.

Just cause one 3 star blows up doesn't mean they all will, geeze
word of advice. When you get totally freaked out by the mere mention of race and act like it bothers you, well, how do you think that makes you look? The kid also totally covered what you chose to go all teaparty about. Furthermore, he makes a good point and nobody came close to answering the question. Why have Quinn Grovey and Matt Jones been the only 2 athletic QBs to see the field @ Arkansas ever?
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: ricepig on January 17, 2017, 08:49:49 pm
To be more specific, I'm Scots-Irish. We're cool as long as you're a Protestant. Otherwise I will bomb you into oblivion.

Presbyterian, or was before I converted to Methodism, lol. You can't get more Scottish than that!
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: Dominicanhog on January 17, 2017, 09:52:02 pm
I'd like a pocket passer who is athletic.

Our last 2 recruits at QB have some mobility or did in high school....
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: ricepig on January 17, 2017, 10:00:44 pm
Our last 2 recruits at QB have some mobility or did in high school....

Hyatt definitely does.
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: clutch on January 17, 2017, 10:10:35 pm
word of advice. When you get totally freaked out by the mere mention of race and act like it bothers you, well, how do you think that makes you look? The kid also totally covered what you chose to go all teaparty about. Furthermore, he makes a good point and nobody came close to answering the question. Why have Quinn Grovey and Matt Jones been the only 2 athletic QBs to see the field @ Arkansas ever?

Because it's actually hard to find an athletic QB who can do enough in the passing game to be much of a factor in the SEC.

Auburn is a good example, even though they've had 2 pretty good athletic QB's in the past 10  years. They are a school that has an offense designed for athletic QB's and they are having a hard time finding one. They've recruited guys like JF3 that they have been highly recruited athletic QB's that still haven't panned out. There just aren't that many guys that can successfully play QB as well as run like the wind. The ones that are out there are going to look at the schools who have systems and reputations that allows the QB to run some.

There is always the outlier like Jackson, who was overlooked by a lot of schools, underrated in high school, and shows out big time on the big stage. Manziel was another guy like him, but for the most part it's just hard to do so there just aren't that many of those guys out there. Teaching a QB to make good reads and be able to make difficult throws is a lot harder than a lot of people think it is. You can't just take any freak athlete and put them back there and make them great. If that was the case, everyone would do it. Reading a defense the caliber of most SEC defenses is extremely hard. Fitting the ball into tight windows is even harder.


Sidenote: Bohanon has the potential to be one of those guys that could. I've seen him a lot. He's the real deal. His throwing mechanics are a little bit off sometimes, he tends to throw off his back foot a little bit, but that is something that could be fixed. The rest of his game is there. He makes good pretty good reads for a high schooler and has a cannon. He's smart enough that he can learn to read defenses even better given some college level coaching.
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: J-Five on January 18, 2017, 07:21:05 am
word of advice. When you get totally freaked out by the mere mention of race and act like it bothers you, well, how do you think that makes you look? The kid also totally covered what you chose to go all teaparty about. Furthermore, he makes a good point and nobody came close to answering the question. Why have Quinn Grovey and Matt Jones been the only 2 athletic QBs to see the field @ Arkansas ever?

Thank you...some folks freak out and don't even comprehend what's in front of them.  I guess there is no answer to why we can't develop athletic QBs...
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: onebadrubi on January 18, 2017, 09:42:55 am
Thank you...some folks freak out and don't even comprehend what's in front of them.  I guess there is no answer to why we can't develop athletic QBs...

Why does it have to be arkansas's problem?  I guess for that sake the NFL has about the same hit rate Arkansas does, you know that billion dollar industry?

Lamar Jackson also single handidly gave away one game this year, pretty much 2 games though. Many also think a black Qb is an athletic Qb, but that's false. For instance Winston is a pocket passer.  The success rate of Aaron Rogers, mike Vicks, and next is Deshaun Watson are 1-100 if not smaller odds. We've spent scholarships on them trying, but they miss the easy wide open throws to often.  Look at hurts in the national championship, he was missing receivers with 10 yard cushions.  Why do you think an Aaron Rogers scramble throw 20-30 yards on the money is a highlight?  Why do you think a shortstop running to get a grounder in the hole at full speed and throwing on a dime to first is a sports center top 10?  Not many can do it
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: J-Five on January 18, 2017, 10:08:03 am
Why does it have to be arkansas's problem?  I guess for that sake the NFL has about the same hit rate Arkansas does, you know that billion dollar industry?

Lamar Jackson also single handidly gave away one game this year, pretty much 2 games though. Many also think a black Qb is an athletic Qb, but that's false. For instance Winston is a pocket passer.  The success rate of Aaron Rogers, mike Vicks, and next is Deshaun Watson are 1-100 if not smaller odds. We've spent scholarships on them trying, but they miss the easy wide open throws to often.  Look at hurts in the national championship, he was missing receivers with 10 yard cushions.  Why do you think an Aaron Rogers scramble throw 20-30 yards on the money is a highlight?  Why do you think a shortstop running to get a grounder in the hole at full speed and throwing on a dime to first is a sports center top 10?  Not many can do it


Um...when a college recruits a player, especially QB, I thought they were to develop them to play at the collegiate level.  I guess I was wrong.  And when I say athletic, I just mean someone who isn't a stiff in the pocket.  I just want a guy at Arkansas who is mobile enough to move around when things get congested.  That's all...You mention Hurts, yeah he missed some guys in the national championship game, but he helped get them there.  He looked pretty good the other 14 games though.  Hurts will be much better next season, Arkansas will see firsthand in Tuscaloosa.
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: Dominicanhog on January 18, 2017, 10:13:54 am
Hyatt definitely does.

thought Cole had good wheels as well....you've seen him in practice? 
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: ricepig on January 18, 2017, 10:16:28 am

Um...when a college recruits a player, especially QB, I thought they were to develop them to play at the collegiate level.  I guess I was wrong.  And when I say athletic, I just mean someone who isn't a stiff in the pocket.  I just want a guy at Arkansas who is mobile enough to move around when things get congested.  That's all...You mention Hurts, yeah he missed some guys in the national championship game, but he helped get them there.  He looked pretty good the other 14 games though.  Hurts will be much better next season, Arkansas will see firsthand in Tuscaloosa.

Do you think the talent around Hurts helps him any? Do you think he'd be the same at Arkansas? Now I agree, I'd like a QB that can escape when needed, and not be afraid to take a hit without everyone wondering if he would get back up. Our offense is predicated on a QB that can make certain throws, so being accurate has to come first.
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: onebadrubi on January 18, 2017, 10:38:28 am

Um...when a college recruits a player, especially QB, I thought they were to develop them to play at the collegiate level.  I guess I was wrong.  And when I say athletic, I just mean someone who isn't a stiff in the pocket.  I just want a guy at Arkansas who is mobile enough to move around when things get congested.  That's all...You mention Hurts, yeah he missed some guys in the national championship game, but he helped get them there.  He looked pretty good the other 14 games though.  Hurts will be much better next season, Arkansas will see firsthand in Tuscaloosa.

So by your definition Alabama has done a worse job producing RB's than Arkansas has producing mobile QB's.  Bama has whiffed on more RB's in sabans time than mobile QB's you listed. You're comment also pretences that all recruits excel and none flop. 

Again let's look at the most recent under this staff/HC.
-Mitchell was beat out by an NFL roster QB.
-peavy was beat out by that same NFL roster QB and every other QB on campus.

College coaches must produce a depth chart at each position and allocate the few hours they get a week accordingly. Sorry this staff and most others not named GUs will take the better passer over the better runner. 

Besides, what you just defined we've had in the Allen brothers. They when healthy have been mobile enough to pick up a game winning TD, two point conversion, or first down.  They aren't outrunning lb'ers, but they will get out of the pocket and move a little.
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: onebadrubi on January 18, 2017, 10:39:30 am
By the way, this staff was in on Hurts early and wanted him. Keep that in mind
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: woodhog14 on January 18, 2017, 11:08:37 am
That was Dyer.

No, that was Williams. Nutt was not the coach here when Dyer was being recruited. And Dyer didn't do that to Petrino.
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: Boss Hog in the Arkansas on January 19, 2017, 01:58:17 pm
I'm SO sick of this narrative.  That's one reason we will never get an athletic QB on the hill.  If I'm not mistaken, EVERY black QB that has gone to AR since the 90's has either been changed to WR or has transferred.  Why would an athletic black QB (or even a non-black one) want to come to U of A when they've seen what has happened to athletic QBs?  Serious question.....

Cedric Washington- Dual Threat QB in HS-  WR at Arkansas
Tarvaris Jackson- transferred to Alabama State (NFL backup QB for several years and lasted longer in the league than the guy who took his spot at Arkansas)
Duwop Mitchell-3 Star Dual Threat QB in HS- WR at Arkansas and eventually transferred.
Robert Johnson- changed to WR
Rafe Peavey-never touched the field (4-star QB in HS)

These guys were good enough to recruit, but why were they not developed?  Were they THAT bad when they got to the Hill that they couldn't be helped?  I wish I knew the answers to these questions, because seeing a guy like Lamar Jackson at Louisville (who was a 3-star I believe) tear it up, just annoys the hell out of me when we could have the same at Arkansas.
Good lord some of you guys run with an idea before reading everything.
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: tophawg19 on January 19, 2017, 03:55:54 pm

First, I know Peavy isn't black. Second, if you re-read what I wrote, I said "non-black" in there as well....third, the only reason I bring up race is because the majority of athletic QBs that I'm referring to are predominately black. That's why I mentioned Peavy also to show I didn't care what race the kid is, I just want an athletic QB, as opposed to a pocket passer...hope that clarifies things....
the next two Hyatt and Conner are both mobile qb's
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: RazorPiggie on January 19, 2017, 04:42:26 pm
My gosh we have some dumb fans.
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: RazorPiggie on January 19, 2017, 04:43:42 pm

Um...when a college recruits a player, especially QB, I thought they were to develop them to play at the collegiate level.  I guess I was wrong.  And when I say athletic, I just mean someone who isn't a stiff in the pocket.  I just want a guy at Arkansas who is mobile enough to move around when things get congested.  That's all...You mention Hurts, yeah he missed some guys in the national championship game, but he helped get them there.  He looked pretty good the other 14 games though.  Hurts will be much better next season, Arkansas will see firsthand in Tuscaloosa.

And sometimes it just never clicks with QBs.
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: Hawgar The Horrible on January 19, 2017, 05:47:52 pm
My gosh we have some dumb fans.

I wouldn't be surprised to see Clay Travis call Arkansas fans the #1 dumbest this year. SEC!, SEC!, SEC!...
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: jry04 on January 19, 2017, 08:12:50 pm
The narrative every year is Arkansas doesn't produce enough players to be competitive in the SEC. That may be true but lately high level programs are in Arkansas offering recruits. Maybe Arkansas is still evaluating but we can't lose anybody to Bama.
It is not a narrative, it is a fact. Producing 3-4 high quality players is not enough.
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: RaisinHog on January 19, 2017, 08:22:34 pm
I'm not reading all of this junk to find out if this question has been answered .. but.. do we even know if the bama offer is for QB?
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: factchecker on January 19, 2017, 08:26:32 pm
I'm not reading all of this junk to find out if this question has been answered .. but.. do we even know if the bama offer is for QB?

No clue
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: ricepig on January 19, 2017, 08:29:12 pm
No clue

In an article with Dawson, his high school coach said that only Memphis and ASU have offered as a QB, the rest are DE/LB/ athlete.
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: RaisinHog on January 19, 2017, 08:49:28 pm
Thank y'all ... I often struggle with these really highly rated guys that play in the lower classifications I live in a 2 a football town and let me tell you for the most part it is terrible lol ... I did get to see bohannon play and his measurables are great but in my opinion it always takes these guys some time to adjust
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: Peter Porker on January 20, 2017, 07:23:47 am
I'd like a pocket passer who is athletic.

I just wish posters would spell the names correctly.
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: Letsroll1200 on January 20, 2017, 09:24:05 am
BJ Thompson from England, AR.  received a offer from Texas
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: Deep Shoat on January 20, 2017, 10:45:06 am
BJ Thompson from England, AR.  received a offer from Texas
And?

We have the #1 TE in the country committed. 
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: Biggus Piggus on January 20, 2017, 10:53:29 am
word of advice. When you get totally freaked out by the mere mention of race and act like it bothers you, well, how do you think that makes you look? The kid also totally covered what you chose to go all teaparty about. Furthermore, he makes a good point and nobody came close to answering the question. Why have Quinn Grovey and Matt Jones been the only 2 athletic QBs to see the field @ Arkansas ever?

Um, talent level.
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: RazorPiggie on January 20, 2017, 11:07:40 am
BJ Thompson from England, AR.  received a offer from Texas

Congrats to him.
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: Jim Harris on January 20, 2017, 11:32:35 am
::)
We should go after their OC hard  then, if they did all of that with the "worst O Line in the conference",  ::)

Josh Heupel. He did pretty well as a QB at Oklahoma and, for a while, as Stoops' OC. Then he had to be a sacrificial lamb over there. But what they did to Arkansas in the second half was just what OU was doing to teams a few years back. Vertical, vertical, vertical. Arkansas seemed to think, based on where they were aligned and their focus on point of attack with numbers, that they were going to run the ball all day.
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: Vantage 8 dude on January 20, 2017, 05:01:23 pm
BJ Thompson from England, AR.  received a offer from Texas
Sorry but this has exactly WHAT to do with this particular thread ??? I realize it actually takes some thought and organization to stay on the actual subject, but come on!!!!! >:( BTW there's already another totally separate thread on Mr. Thompson's offer.
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: Letsroll1200 on January 21, 2017, 01:00:51 pm
Sorry but this has exactly WHAT to do with this particular thread ??? I realize it actually takes some thought and organization to stay on the actual subject, but come on!!!!! >:( BTW there's already another totally separate thread on Mr. Thompson's offer.

I think I asked about Arkansas being slow on offering in state talent
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: Vantage 8 dude on January 21, 2017, 02:47:23 pm
I think I asked about Arkansas being slow on offering in state talent
See my above comments concerning separate post already posted. And BTW as been pointed by others just because 'Bama has offered doesn't mean we won't and we won't land him. Quit freeking.
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: Hollywood870 on January 21, 2017, 03:29:28 pm
Rafe Peavey?  Uh.........
Uh......4.5 forty.
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: BigLion10 on January 23, 2017, 07:40:37 am
LaMichael James?
played against him in HS when I was in Texas, that dude was a monster tore us up both years I played him
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: onebadrubi on January 23, 2017, 08:14:55 am
Uh......4.5 forty.

40 times.... Only thing important when playing QB, amirite
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: RazorPiggie on January 23, 2017, 08:22:29 am
played against him in HS when I was interested Texas, that dude was a monster root us up both years I played him

Could you re-write this so I can understand it?
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: Deep Shoat on January 23, 2017, 11:07:03 am
Could you re-write this so I can understand it?
Pretty sure he said, "I graduated from PB".
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: BigLion10 on January 23, 2017, 11:11:49 am
My bad on the misspellings guys lol I was saying he was a beast in HS he tore us up both times I played him.
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: Letsroll1200 on January 24, 2017, 12:33:22 pm
Auburn Tigers just offered the kid
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: WooPig90 on January 24, 2017, 12:39:23 pm
Auburn Tigers just offered the kid

Yup as a QB
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: colbs on January 24, 2017, 12:40:56 pm
Auburn Tigers just offered the kid
Arkansas already has a QB(from Arkansas) for the 2018 class.
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: Trey1981 on January 24, 2017, 12:40:58 pm
Yup as a QB

Assuming he wants to play QB in college and Arkansas eventually offers, that will be a tough offer to compete with.

If Arkansas offers, do we think it will be as a QB or as an athlete?
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: colbs on January 24, 2017, 12:44:23 pm
Assuming he wants to play QB in college and Arkansas eventually offers, that will be a tough offer to compete with.

If Arkansas offers, do we think it will be as a QB or as an athlete?
Athlete probably
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: The Hawg Marshal on January 24, 2017, 12:44:35 pm
He just tweeted that Auburn is his dream school. I hope we don't offer him.
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: Pig in the Pokey on January 24, 2017, 12:46:45 pm
Arkansas already has a QB(from Arkansas) for the 2018 class.
who might be a major league baseball player...
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: WooPig90 on January 24, 2017, 12:47:14 pm
He just tweeted that Auburn is his dream school. I hope we don't offer him.

This
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: jacobp on January 24, 2017, 12:49:02 pm
...
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: Letsroll1200 on January 24, 2017, 12:50:26 pm
He just tweeted that Auburn is his dream school. I hope we don't offer him.
56-3
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: colbs on January 24, 2017, 12:53:14 pm
56-3
Go troll on MMQB.
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: RyanMallettsEgo on January 24, 2017, 01:17:06 pm
nm
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: Next1_04 on January 24, 2017, 01:25:54 pm
56-3

54-46

And?
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: Letsroll1200 on January 24, 2017, 01:29:12 pm
Go troll on MMQB.

Everybody's a troll to let some of you tell it.
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: The_Iceman on January 24, 2017, 01:45:21 pm
If he wants to play QB, I don't think we have a spot for him here. We have Cole Kelley and Daulton Hyatt on campus. Will be adding Connor Noland in 2018.
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: RazorPiggie on January 24, 2017, 01:46:58 pm
If he wants to play QB, I don't think we have a spot for him here. We have Cole Kelley and Daulton Hyatt on campus. Will be adding Connor Noland in 2018.

Correct. If he wants to play QB it more than likely won't be at UofA.
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: Letsroll1200 on January 24, 2017, 01:53:37 pm
If he wants to play QB, I don't think we have a spot for him here. We have Cole Kelley and Daulton Hyatt on campus. Will be adding Connor Noland in 2018.

Competition not wanted!!! Put a sign up around Razorback stadium.
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: Letsroll1200 on January 24, 2017, 01:56:02 pm
If he wants to play QB, I don't think we have a spot for him here. We have Cole Kelley and Daulton Hyatt on campus. Will be adding Connor Noland in 2018.

It doesn't stop other SEC programs when they have better 5 star quarterback. Why at Arkansas?
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: PorkRinds on January 24, 2017, 01:59:19 pm
It doesn't stop other SEC programs when they have better 5 star quarterback. Why at Arkansas?

Yes it does.
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: Letsroll1200 on January 24, 2017, 02:02:54 pm
Yes it does.

Alabama last season. They had 5 stars before Hurt got to campus but it didn't stop them. I don't want a kid that's not willing to compete. If your last name is not Walton, Landers, Gates and a few others you are going to have to compete for your spot in life.
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: Peter Porker on January 24, 2017, 02:04:23 pm
Alabama last season. They had 5 stars before Hurt got to campus but it didn't stop them. I don't want a kid that's not willing to compete. If your last name is not Walton, Landers, Gates and a few others you are going to have to compete for your spot in life.

You know those 5 star QBs transferred right?
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: Letsroll1200 on January 24, 2017, 02:07:38 pm
You know those 5 star QBs transferred right?

That's life!!! Peavy and Towns transferred from a 7 win team.
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: RazorPiggie on January 24, 2017, 02:17:47 pm
Alabama last season. They had 5 stars before Hurt got to campus but it didn't stop them. I don't want a kid that's not willing to compete. If your last name is not Walton, Landers, Gates and a few others you are going to have to compete for your spot in life.

Bama QBs recruits

2016-Jalen Hurts
2015-Blake Barnett
2014-David Cornwell
2013-Cooper Bateman, Parker McLeod (who has transferred to WKU then to UGA as a walk on).
2012-Alec Morris

So looks like we do the same thing as Bama. 1 per year.
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: The_Iceman on January 24, 2017, 03:34:57 pm
Alabama last season. They had 5 stars before Hurt got to campus but it didn't stop them. I don't want a kid that's not willing to compete. If your last name is not Walton, Landers, Gates and a few others you are going to have to compete for your spot in life.

My point is, with Kelley and Hyatt, we don't have room for two scholarship QBs in the same class.
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: Vantage 8 dude on January 24, 2017, 03:37:09 pm
Everybody's a troll to let some of you tell it.
So this is how they compose sentences at AWbarn: "Everybody's a troll to LET some of you tell it"? What the heck ??? ::) :-\
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: NotSoFastMyFriend on January 24, 2017, 05:14:55 pm
Bohanon is a dual-threat QB, not a pro-style QB. Unless he wants to come to Arkansas as an ATH he won't be coming.


Translation: He won't be coming.

If you want to openly root for Gus there's a team and a board for that.  :razorback:
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: Hollywood870 on January 24, 2017, 05:22:04 pm
Bohanon is a dual-threat QB, not a pro-style QB. Unless he wants to come to Arkansas as an ATH he won't be coming.


Translation: He won't be coming.

If you want to openly root for Gus there's a team and a board for that.  :razorback:
So we can't run our offense with a dual threat quarterback. Gotcha. Love seeing these Arkansas kids go out of state.
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: NotSoFastMyFriend on January 24, 2017, 05:47:11 pm
So we can't run our offense with a dual threat quarterback. Gotcha. Love seeing these Arkansas kids go out of state.
Hey, I don't like seeing a kid like Bohanon potentially leave either but no, the Hogs offense won't run with a QB who is a runner first and a passer second. The QB has to make reads in a pro-style offense. They can't just line up in the pistol and run 60-70 RPOs per game. Doesn't work that way.
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: passinghog on January 24, 2017, 07:44:27 pm
I say offer him. Need competition at the QB spot. May the best player win the job. No reason to not have someone that can bring something different to the position. Offer now
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: WooPig90 on January 24, 2017, 07:56:41 pm
I say offer him. Need competition at the QB spot. May the best player win the job. No reason to not have someone that can bring something different to the position. Offer now

Yeah lets tie up scholarships with multiple QBs, smart idea!
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: onebadrubi on January 24, 2017, 08:08:43 pm
I say lets recruit him and see how it goes. If our staff thinks he's be better at WR, TE, DE, etc then recruit him there. 

Auburn could use another Jeremy Johnson
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: The Hawg Marshal on January 24, 2017, 10:28:12 pm
Bohanon was just on KAIT. He said he took down the "dream school" tweet  because it was causing trouble between the Bama and Barn fans. Never mentioned Arkansas.
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: 20gauge on January 24, 2017, 11:42:23 pm
I work with his cousin. Time to move on since Auburn offered. Of course he could change his mind but from what I hear from those guys he's Auburn bound.

Seen him play several times he's better at DE than QB to me. Has a cannon, struggles with accuracy sometimes, tough to bring down at least at the level he is playing at now. Seems like a good kid when I talked to him and a 4.0 student.
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: ChicoHog on January 25, 2017, 12:30:26 am
He might be the perfect QB for Malzahn's system.  If he has a strong arm most of their passes are deep jump balls or RPOs.  And if he can run a zone read anything close to what Nick Marshall did he will be a great player for the Tiggers.  Of course he could also end up like Jeremy Johnson or even Kiehl Frazier and be a disappointment.  Who knows? 
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: Next1_04 on January 27, 2017, 12:42:56 pm
Just said he received an Arkansas Offer per twitter
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: ricepig on January 27, 2017, 12:48:46 pm
Too late, we never get any home state guy by offering second..........
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: Next1_04 on January 27, 2017, 01:02:14 pm
Too late, we never get any home state guy by offering second..........

I feel yuh. Auburn being his dream school from what he said we may have been behind the 8 Ball anyways.
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: The_Boot_stops_here on January 27, 2017, 01:12:21 pm
I feel yuh. Auburn being his dream school from what he said we may have been behind the 8 Ball anyways.

I had a buddy tell me the young man walked back the "dream school" stuff once he figured out Aubbie wasn't offering as a qb either.  Just second hand info though.
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: Bubba's Bruisers on January 27, 2017, 01:19:55 pm
I had a buddy tell me the young man walked back the "dream school" stuff once he figured out Aubbie wasn't offering as a qb either.  Just second hand info though.

Is he set on playing QB?  What are schools recruiting him to play?
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: The_Boot_stops_here on January 27, 2017, 01:24:08 pm
Is he set on playing QB?  What are schools recruiting him to play?

The young man himself said, in an interview after Bama offered, that while he loves playing qb, he's open to anything.  I think he's being recruited as an athlete but I could certainly be wrong.
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: ricepig on January 27, 2017, 01:24:38 pm
I had a buddy tell me the young man walked back the "dream school" stuff once he figured out Aubbie wasn't offering as a qb either.  Just second hand info though.

He was on the local sports the other night, said he took that down because of the grief he was getting from the Bama fans. He also said Auburn offered as a QB.
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: The_Boot_stops_here on January 27, 2017, 01:28:24 pm
He was on the local sports the other night, said he took that down because of the grief he was getting from the Bama fans. He also said Auburn offered as a QB.

Well there ya go.  Like I said, just second hand info.  I'll ask him where he got it
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: WildRazorback on January 27, 2017, 01:31:23 pm
 I think some people are overlooking the fact that Earle is way off in Eastern Arkansas and much closer to Arkansas State University. I live in Wynne, which is pretty close to Earle, and there are a number of ASU fans in the area. Maybe he always liked ASU? And when Malzahn took over, he fell in love with that style of offense and would prefer to be the next big 'Manziel' type. Just a thought. 
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: onebadrubi on January 27, 2017, 01:56:25 pm
I think some people are overlooking the fact that Earle is way off in Eastern Arkansas and much closer to Arkansas State University. I live in Wynne, which is pretty close to Earle, and there are a number of ASU fans in the area. Maybe he always liked ASU? And when Malzahn took over, he fell in love with that style of offense and would prefer to be the next big 'Manziel' type. Just a thought.

Lol yup THAAATS it
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: Next1_04 on January 27, 2017, 02:02:25 pm
Ole Miss Joining the club- Per Twitter
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: clutch on January 27, 2017, 02:08:29 pm
I've been told that he really like Miss St., even though they haven't offered yet. I'm sure they will.
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: ricepig on January 27, 2017, 02:31:57 pm
I've been told that he really like Miss St., even though they haven't offered yet. I'm sure they will.

Big Blue fan, I suspect he'll take Monk's spot.
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: Oklahawg on January 27, 2017, 02:38:55 pm
http://www.wholehogsports.com/news/2017/jan/27/earles-bohanon-thrilled-about-state-offer/

UA offer. Time to quit fretting.
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: Next1_04 on January 27, 2017, 02:55:07 pm
http://www.wholehogsports.com/news/2017/jan/27/earles-bohanon-thrilled-about-state-offer/

UA offer. Time to quit fretting.

Earle quarterback-linebacker Gerry Bohanon is now the third in-state junior prospect to receive a scholarship offer from Arkansas. Coach Bret Bielema, tight ends coach Barry Lunney Jr. and linebackers coach Vernon Hargreaves visited the school. He announced on Twitter on Friday that the Hogs extended the offer and he was thrilled. “I instantly smiled; I was excited on the inside, but I was at school so I couldn't let out how I really felt,” Bohanon said, laughing. “I've been feeling good ever since because it's from the state I've grown up in all my life.”

Bohanon, 6-4, 215 pounds, also has offers from Alabama, Auburn, Memphis and Arkansas State. Ole Miss became his sixth offer shortly after the Razorbacks offered. The Hogs are recruiting him as an athlete. He passed for 2,734 yards and rushed for more than 1,000 this past season. As a sophomore, he passed for 1,763 yards and rushed for 964 yards in eight games while also recording 46 tackles and 9 sacks in five games at defensive end. Earle Coach Albert Coleman said in an earlier interview that Bohanon is a special talent with a great attitude.

“He’s one-of-a-kind in my football playing days, and I’m going back to Little League to junior high to high school and playing college ball at UCA, “ Coleman said. “I haven’t seen a kid with that type of a work ethic.” Last spring, Bohanon had a 3.7 grade point average. As a freshman, he passed for 1,800 yards and rushed for 1,500 yards. Coleman said Bohanon can play quarterback and several other positions on the next level.

“There’s no doubt on the next level he would be able to play the position the coach puts him at,” Coleman said. “He’s as aggressive as he needs to be at linebacker or defensive end. He would probably have some of the best hands on the team at wide receiver or tight end.”
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: The_Boot_stops_here on January 27, 2017, 03:18:53 pm
I've been told that he really like Miss St., even though they haven't offered yet. I'm sure they will.

Maybe he sees himself as Dak 2.0
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: The_Boot_stops_here on January 27, 2017, 03:22:03 pm
He was on the local sports the other night, said he took that down because of the grief he was getting from the Bama fans. He also said Auburn offered as a QB.

Alright, so it turns out it was something he heard from a friend who read it from a Mod on the Aubbie 24/7 board.  The mod said that Bohanon being under the impression that Aubbie was offering him as a QB was, in fact, a mistake and that possibly impacts Aubbie being his "dream school".  What it probably comes down to is that Bohanon would really like to play QB even though he's made it clear that he is willing to play anything.  He certainly seems happy with his Arkansas offer.
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: jgphillips3 on January 27, 2017, 03:29:09 pm
Well, I'm guessing if one of our competitors lies to him (ala Devin White/LSU) and tells him he can play QB just to get him to campus, we probably lose him but if he isn't going to get to play QB, then our chances are as good as any.
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: Letsroll1200 on January 27, 2017, 03:57:17 pm
Good News!!!
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: SonOfMud on January 27, 2017, 03:59:55 pm
Well, I'm guessing if one of our competitors lies to him (ala Devin White/LSU) and tells him he can play QB just to get him to campus, we probably lose him but if he isn't going to get to play QB, then our chances are as good as any.

I have no doubt that Auburn will give him every opportunity to be Cam 2.0.
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: King Kong on January 27, 2017, 04:13:50 pm
I have no doubt that Auburn will give him every opportunity to be Cam 2.0.

Like they did with Kodi Burns or Kiehl Frazier
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: Hollywood870 on January 27, 2017, 04:36:49 pm
Like they did with Kodi Burns or Kiehl Frazier
I hope we at least give him a chance as a QB. You know how the running backs that always seem to make that one defender miss in the backfield work out better for us? Same story here. There's gonna be a pass rush coming. We may as well get used to that.
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: Deep Shoat on January 27, 2017, 04:39:12 pm
I hope we at least give him a chance as a QB. You know how the running backs that always seem to make that one defender miss in the backfield work out better for us? Same story here. There's gonna be a pass rush coming. We may as well get used to that.
We run a Pro Style O that requires the ability to make great coverage reads and throw the ball, 1st, 2nd, and 3rd.  We want a kid who will run a little if there is NOTHING there otherwise. 

Y'all need to give up this running qb thing.
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: rzrbk4life on January 27, 2017, 04:43:03 pm
Earle quarterback-linebacker Gerry Bohanon is now the third in-state junior prospect to receive a scholarship offer from Arkansas. Coach Bret Bielema, tight ends coach Barry Lunney Jr. and linebackers coach Vernon Hargreaves visited the school. He announced on Twitter on Friday that the Hogs extended the offer and he was thrilled. “I instantly smiled; I was excited on the inside, but I was at school so I couldn't let out how I really felt,” Bohanon said, laughing. “I've been feeling good ever since because it's from the state I've grown up in all my life.”

Bohanon, 6-4, 215 pounds, also has offers from Alabama, Auburn, Memphis and Arkansas State. Ole Miss became his sixth offer shortly after the Razorbacks offered. The Hogs are recruiting him as an athlete. He passed for 2,734 yards and rushed for more than 1,000 this past season. As a sophomore, he passed for 1,763 yards and rushed for 964 yards in eight games while also recording 46 tackles and 9 sacks in five games at defensive end. Earle Coach Albert Coleman said in an earlier interview that Bohanon is a special talent with a great attitude.

“He’s one-of-a-kind in my football playing days, and I’m going back to Little League to junior high to high school and playing college ball at UCA, “ Coleman said. “I haven’t seen a kid with that type of a work ethic.” Last spring, Bohanon had a 3.7 grade point average. As a freshman, he passed for 1,800 yards and rushed for 1,500 yards. Coleman said Bohanon can play quarterback and several other positions on the next level.

“There’s no doubt on the next level he would be able to play the position the coach puts him at,” Coleman said. “He’s as aggressive as he needs to be at linebacker or defensive end. He would probably have some of the best hands on the team at wide receiver or tight end.”


3.7 GPA is pretty impressive. Doesn't sound like grades will be an issue with this young man
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: HoneyNuttPetrinoos on January 27, 2017, 04:44:02 pm
GB said on twitter that Auburn offered him as a qb. I hope we are to
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: ricepig on January 27, 2017, 04:45:54 pm
GB said on twitter that Auburn offered him as a qb. I hope we are to

We didn't, offered as an athlete.
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: RazorPiggie on January 27, 2017, 05:06:42 pm
We didn't, offered as an athlete.

AKA you can come here and try to compete at QB for a year or two but if you aren't moving up the depth chart you'll switch positions.
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: Hollywood870 on January 27, 2017, 05:20:34 pm
We run a Pro Style O that requires the ability to make great coverage reads and throw the ball, 1st, 2nd, and 3rd.  We want a kid who will run a little if there is NOTHING there otherwise. 

Y'all need to give up this running qb thing.
So all those second halves that Austin Allen was getting pounded in the backfield, the ability to  scramble away from those blitzes and hurt the defense wouldn't have helped. Nice post. You watch Clemson or Bama play?
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: HardingHog on January 27, 2017, 05:43:37 pm
So all those second halves that Austin Allen was getting pounded in the backfield, the ability to  scramble away from those blitzes and hurt the defense wouldn't have helped. Nice post. You watch Clemson or Bama play?

Lamar Jackson couldn't have avoided most the hits Austin took this past year. Heck, he got sacked like 8 times against Houston! It's not easy to get away from unblocked Auburn, LSU, Bama, etc linemen and line backers I don't care who you are
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: Hollywood870 on January 27, 2017, 05:49:04 pm
Lamar Jackson couldn't have avoided most the hits Austin took this past year. Heck, he got sacked like 8 times against Houston! It's not easy to get away from unblocked Auburn, LSU, Bama, etc linemen and line backers I don't care who you are
What about the hits vs Missouri, Va Tech, AtM, every game we play? I just say I hope we look at him as a mobile QB and get ridiculous criticism for that. What person with a brain wouldn't want their QB to be able to avoid pressure? Just because your mobile doesn't mean you can't run a pro style offense anymore.
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: ricepig on January 27, 2017, 05:53:46 pm
What about the hits vs Missouri, Va Tech, AtM, every game we play? I just say I hope we look at him as a mobile QB and get ridiculous criticism for that. What person with a brain wouldn't want their QB to be able to avoid pressure? Just because your mobile doesn't mean you can't run a pro style offense anymore.

Nope, but those guys are few and far between. We need a little more athleticism out of our QB's, Hyatt and Noland have that.
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: Hollywood870 on January 27, 2017, 05:58:09 pm
Nope, but those guys are few and far between. We need a little more athleticism out of our QB's, Hyatt and Noland have that.
Well ricepig you certainly are going down with the ship. I have to give you credit for that. If I had a violin quartet right about now....
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: ricepig on January 27, 2017, 06:08:24 pm
Well ricepig you certainly are going down with the ship. I have to give you credit for that. If I had a violin quartet right about now....

I support the University of Arkansas, I don't bandwagon jump from week to week like most. If, and when a change is made, I'll support that.
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: NotSoFastMyFriend on January 27, 2017, 06:29:04 pm
So all those second halves that Austin Allen was getting pounded in the backfield, the ability to  scramble away from those blitzes and hurt the defense wouldn't have helped. Nice post. You watch Clemson or Bama play?
Yeah, two best offensive lines in college football what's your point? That Austin Allen wouldn't have gotten pounded behind those lines? Good point.
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: NotSoFastMyFriend on January 27, 2017, 06:34:08 pm
Nope, but those guys are few and far between. We need a little more athleticism out of our QB's, Hyatt and Noland have that.

I talked to Connor Noland's long-time professional QB coach, Dennis Gile, about Connor and he said he is one of the best QBs he's worked with or played with on any level. He's been around some good ones, including Tom Brady and no, I'm not saying Connor Noland is going to be the next Tom Brady but he has certainly caught the eye of some folks who know what high-caliber talent looks like. He's virtually a lock to make it to the Elite 11 finals this summer. Great kid off the field as well. Sad to see some of the "fanbase" is already selling him short.  :razorback:
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: Deep Shoat on January 27, 2017, 06:52:56 pm
So all those second halves that Austin Allen was getting pounded in the backfield, the ability to  scramble away from those blitzes and hurt the defense wouldn't have helped. Nice post. You watch Clemson or Bama play?
No, I watched Arkansas play.  My OPINION on whether running QB's are better or worse is irrelevant.  We play a Pro Style O.  Therefore, we will never see that style QB at Arkansas.  At least not until we change coaches and bring in Gus or someone like him.

Reading comprehension is your friend.
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: ricepig on January 27, 2017, 07:24:34 pm
No, I watched Arkansas play.  My OPINION on whether running QB's are better or worse is irrelevant.  We play a Pro Style O.  Therefore, we will never see that style QB at Arkansas.  At least not until we change coaches and bring in Gus or someone like him.

Reading comprehension is your friend.

I think they'd take a Pro passer that can run some, ala Russell Wilson, but those are few and far between.
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: CallThoseHawgs on January 27, 2017, 07:24:53 pm
GB said on twitter that Auburn offered him as a qb. I hope we are to
Ole Miss offered as a QB as well.
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: Bubba's Bruisers on January 27, 2017, 07:28:21 pm
So all those second halves that Austin Allen was getting pounded in the backfield, the ability to  scramble away from those blitzes and hurt the defense wouldn't have helped. Nice post. You watch Clemson or Bama play?

Clemson is a fair example.  Bama isn't. 

Yes, anyone would want a kid like Watson.   We would to, because he's capable of being a pocket passer first.  The Bama QB couldn't hit the ocean a outside of 10 yards.  He has to be run first.  At least at this point in his career.  He's THE reason they lost the NCG.  Was mostly enept in the passing game.
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: Bubba's Bruisers on January 27, 2017, 07:33:10 pm
I think they'd take a Pro passer that can run some, ala Russell Wilson, but those are few and far between.

And ironically, as everyone knows, a BB player.  So there's some precedent for it right there.  At Wisky notwithstanding.
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: Deep Shoat on January 27, 2017, 07:48:28 pm
I think they'd take a Pro passer that can run some, ala Russell Wilson, but those are few and far between.
Yeah?  Who wouldn't take Russell Wilson.  Or Steve Young?  Or John Elway?  A Pro Style guy who has wheels is welcome at any program. 

Run first guys?  How many NC's have been won by them in the post wishbone era?
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: imtad16 on January 27, 2017, 07:50:17 pm
I think they'd take a Pro passer that can run some, ala Russell Wilson, but those are few and far between.



Clemson is a fair example.  Bama isn't. 

Yes, anyone would want a kid like Watson.   We would to, because he's capable of being a pocket passer first.  The Bama QB couldn't hit the ocean a outside of 10 yards.  He has to be run first.  At least at this point in his career.  He's THE reason they lost the NCG.  Was mostly enept in the passing game.


And to add to this Deshaun Watson himself is adamant that he is a pocket passer. He has said that he doesn't even like the Dual Threat label.
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: imtad16 on January 27, 2017, 07:54:09 pm
Also, before anyone requests...

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2657066-deshaun-watson-hates-dual-threat-qb-code-word-wants-to-be-face-of-cfb

http://www.latimes.com/sports/sportsnow/la-sp-deshaun-watson-dual-threat-20160818-snap-story.html

http://ftw.usatoday.com/2016/08/clemson-deshaun-watson-race-ncaaf
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: Bubba's Bruisers on January 27, 2017, 07:55:56 pm



And to add to this Deshaun Watson himself is adamant that he is a pocket passer that can run. He has said that he doesn't even like the Dual Threat label.

Apparently someone has said they want a run first QB, which has brought on this debate.  Never saw who made that claim.  However, I think pretty much everyone is saying they'd want a passing QB who can easily make plays with his feet when necessary.  That's just a no brainier.  There probably isn't an offense in college football that wouldn't want that.  Even Malzahn's.
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: imtad16 on January 27, 2017, 08:04:02 pm
Apparently someone has said they want a run first QB, which has brought on this debate.  Never saw who made that claim.  However, I think pretty much everyone is saying they'd want a passing QB who can easily make plays with his feet when necessary.  That's just a no brainier.  There probably isn't an offense in college football that wouldn't want that.  Even Malzahn's.


I hope no one hears me comparing AA to Russell Wilson or Deshaun Watson, but I think Allen can move. That was not the problem this season. The reason he was getting hit was because of the line (call me captain obvious, I'm just saying it wasn't because he lacks mobility). I believe the line will be much much better next year, Allen won't get hit like he did this season, and we see some of the mobility we would like to see while continuing to pass the ball well.


I haven't seen Bohanon play at all, but Noland has this trait. There is mobility, but he is more of a passer for sure.
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: factchecker on January 27, 2017, 08:06:27 pm
I hope no one hears me comparing AA to Russell Wilson or Deshaun Watson, but I think Allen can move. That was not the problem this season. The reason he was getting hit was because of the line (call me captain obvious, I'm just saying it wasn't because he lacks mobility) . I believe the line will be much much better next year, Allen won't get hit like he did this season, and we see some of the mobility we would like to see while continuing to pass the ball well.


I haven't seen Bohannon play at all, but Noland has this trait. There is mobility, but he is a passer for sure.

I agree with you about Allen.  He isn't dual threat or a runner by any means but he can move.  The problem was that there was a ton of pressure from up the middle -- primarily over the left guard position.
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: Bubba's Bruisers on January 27, 2017, 08:09:11 pm
I hope no one hears me comparing AA to Russell Wilson or Deshaun Watson, but I think Allen can move. That was not the problem this season. The reason he was getting hit was because of the line (call me captain obvious, I'm just saying it wasn't because he lacks mobility). I believe the line will be much much better next year, Allen won't get hit like he did this season, and we see some of the mobility we would like to see while continuing to pass the ball well.


I haven't seen Bohanon play at all, but Noland has this trait. There is mobility, but he is more of a passer for sure.

Yes, Nolan appears to have those characteristics.  I think Hyatt may too.  If so, then it's obvious this staff would like QB's that can be elusive when necessary.  Kelly may even have some wheels too for being such a huge guy.
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: Bubba's Bruisers on January 27, 2017, 08:10:17 pm


Matt Jones anyone?

Actually Matt jones was a run first guy.  Would not excel in our offense.
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: clutch on January 28, 2017, 10:13:27 am
We run a Pro Style O that requires the ability to make great coverage reads and throw the ball, 1st, 2nd, and 3rd.  We want a kid who will run a little if there is NOTHING there otherwise. 

Y'all need to give up this running qb thing.

I think a lot of people are under the wrong impression of Bohanon, thinking he is a run first QB. He isn't, He's a pass first guy who just so happens to rack up a lot of rushing yards each year because he's such a good athlete.

I'm on record as saying that I think his best position is DE, but I'm pretty confident that he could play QB pretty well at a major University. The kid is just an all around very good athlete. He's shown it at some pretty high level camps and all-star games too, not just against 2a competition.

I'm pretty sure he goes to whichever school gives him the best opportunity to play QB though. He didn't even play defense most of the season this year because he wanted to focus on QB play and showing himself off at that position. He started playing D a lot more later in the year when colleges started asking for defensive film on him. 
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: Hawg Life on January 28, 2017, 10:25:00 am
No, I watched Arkansas play.  My OPINION on whether running QB's are better or worse is irrelevant.  We play a Pro Style O.  Therefore, we will never see that style QB at Arkansas.  At least not until we change coaches and bring in Gus or someone like him.

Reading comprehension is your friend.

Gus will NEVER be HC @ Arkansas.
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: onebadrubi on January 28, 2017, 11:26:40 am
So all those second halves that Austin Allen was getting pounded in the backfield, the ability to  scramble away from those blitzes and hurt the defense wouldn't have helped. Nice post. You watch Clemson or Bama play?

See, the thing about types like you, is that if we had a mobile QB who scrambled and we get beat, you'd be hear saying we need someone much more Mallett and pro QB like that can hit throws and make reads...
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: tophawg19 on January 28, 2017, 02:41:31 pm
We run a Pro Style O that requires the ability to make great coverage reads and throw the ball, 1st, 2nd, and 3rd.  We want a kid who will run a little if there is NOTHING there otherwise. 

Y'all need to give up this running qb thing.
you realize Bama now uses a mobile Qb as does most top teams .No reason to think we won't .Hyatt , Noland And this kid all are mobile
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: tophawg19 on January 28, 2017, 02:54:24 pm
Yes, Nolan appears to have those characteristics.  I think Hyatt may too.  If so, then it's obvious this staff would like QB's that can be elusive when necessary.  Kelly may even have some wheels too for being such a huge guy.
Kelly is Matt Jones 0.2 lol. all jokes aside he can run and you have to think twice about coming up to hit that big dude . don't look goodf getting freight trained by a QB
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: tophawg19 on January 28, 2017, 02:58:19 pm
See, the thing about types like you, is that if we had a mobile QB who scrambled and we get beat, you'd be hear saying we need someone much more Mallett and pro QB like that can hit throws and make reads...
who says a Mallett type QB can't run.
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: onebadrubi on January 29, 2017, 11:52:17 pm
who says a Mallett type QB can't run.

Well how do we define run?  Most who talk about running QB would not call Aaron Rogers a running QB, but he's about the most mobile accurate passer ever in the NFL. After him, who else can run and make throws?  Cam can't and has always been his criticism.

Usually footwork and accuracy are sacrificed by mobile QB's. It's just the way it works. You aren't getting Mallett's type arm and accuracy with cams running ability.
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: Amityvillehogger on February 01, 2017, 12:22:57 pm
Offered by Georgia.
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: BigLion10 on February 22, 2017, 11:51:51 am
Offered by Tennessee and Mississippi St
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: navyhog24 on February 22, 2017, 02:33:42 pm
And LSU
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: Huds_HawgTide on February 22, 2017, 03:16:34 pm
Tearing it up
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: Huds_HawgTide on February 22, 2017, 03:16:58 pm
If he goes to some camps and attends the opening his recruiting ranking will sky rocket
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: HoneyNuttPetrinoos on February 22, 2017, 03:23:01 pm
Why would he go to a camp and risk injury when everyone in the SEC has already offered him?  How many more offers does one need??
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: colbs on February 22, 2017, 03:27:55 pm
Why would he go to a camp and risk injury when everyone in the SEC has already offered him?  How many more offers does one need??
Because if a player gets more stars they are automatically a better player.
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: onebadrubi on February 22, 2017, 11:03:46 pm
Why would he go to a camp and risk injury when everyone in the SEC has already offered him?  How many more offers does one need??

To put your talent up against the best in the nation. These kids want to compete, not sit on the sidelines.  You don't want one that DOESNT want to compete
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: VirginiaHog on February 23, 2017, 12:03:45 pm
Especially if he wants to play qb. He may want to show he can be an elite qb.
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: Pig in the Pokey on February 24, 2017, 02:03:50 pm
Especially if he wants to play qb. He may want to show he can be an elite qb.
this. And he will.
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: Neednewcoach on February 24, 2017, 02:08:54 pm
Fitz Hill said last night on Drive Time that LSU was the team to beat.
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: ricepig on February 24, 2017, 02:23:04 pm
Fitz Hill said last night on Drive Time that LSU was the team to beat.

Going to play LB at LSU, hmm.....
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: navyhog24 on February 24, 2017, 02:38:15 pm
First Auburn. Now LSU. The worst places to go if you're a QB or wanting to play QB
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: NotSoFastMyFriend on February 24, 2017, 02:59:12 pm
Lunney has been on Gerry before any of the other schools even came into the picture so some of you guys can stop pretending you have any clue what's going on.
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: The_Boot_stops_here on February 24, 2017, 03:27:14 pm
Fitz Hill said last night on Drive Time that LSU was the team to beat.

Would he know?  No that's not sarcasm, I just don't know how plugged in Fitz Hill is to where Gerry Bohanon might be going to college.
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: colbs on February 24, 2017, 03:40:07 pm
Going to play LB at LSU, hmm.....
They do have a history of telling players they will play a certain position then move them to LB.  When I say players I mean 1 player because I only know of one they did that to. 
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: Neednewcoach on February 24, 2017, 04:11:37 pm
Lunney has been on Gerry before any of the other schools even came into the picture so some of you guys can stop pretending you have any clue what's going on.

I don't have any clue as to what's really going on I'm simply repeating what was said by Fitz Hill.

Would he know?  No that's not sarcasm, I just don't know how plugged in Fitz Hill is to where Gerry Bohanon might be going to college.

He referred to him as "my boy" so he implied that he knew him.  Like I said above, just repeating what was said.
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: ricepig on February 24, 2017, 04:32:25 pm
They do have a history of telling players they will play a certain position then move them to LB.  When I say players I mean 1 player because I only know of one they did that to. 
They are like all schools, they'll move players. I don't know if he'll play QB at LSU or not, but they haven't had much success with a dual QB lately.

http://www.theadvocate.com/baton_rouge/sports/lsu/article_87a90903-317f-5067-8c65-1dbd048477cd.html
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: The_Boot_stops_here on February 24, 2017, 09:00:43 pm
They are like all schools, they'll move players. I don't know if he'll play QB at LSU or not, but they haven't had much success with a dual QB lately.

http://www.theadvocate.com/baton_rouge/sports/lsu/article_87a90903-317f-5067-8c65-1dbd048477cd.html

I think it likely had a lot to do with trying to force a dual threat qb into a pro style offense. Will be interesting to see the impact Canada has.
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: NotSoFastMyFriend on February 24, 2017, 09:39:20 pm
I don't have any clue as to what's really going on I'm simply repeating what was said by Fitz Hill.

He referred to him as "my boy" so he implied that he knew him.  Like I said above, just repeating what was said.

Got it, I was just trying to counter the "Bret and staff are slow-playing Bohanon" line that many on here keep erroneously pushing forward in their posts. Simply not the case. No matter how bad they want it to be the truth - it just isn't.
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: hawgwash on February 25, 2017, 07:04:27 am
Would he know?  No that's not sarcasm, I just don't know how plugged in Fitz Hill is to where Gerry Bohanon might be going to college.
I heard Hill interview Bohanon on the radio a week or two ago.  It sounded like he knows him well.  I think Bohanon is friends with Hill's son who is committed to the BB Hogs.
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: The_Boot_stops_here on February 25, 2017, 08:40:37 am
I heard Hill interview Bohanon on the radio a week or two ago.  It sounded like he knows him well.  I think Bohanon is friends with Hill's son who is committed to the BB Hogs.

Cool, thanks.
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: redleg on March 07, 2017, 08:24:03 am
So basically it's this.....Bohanon can sign with Arkansas and play WR or OLB and Hog fans everywhere will love him for it, or...Bohanon can sign with Auburn, LSU, Miss St, etc and play QB and Hog fans will hate him for it, or...Bohanon can sign with Alabama and play whatever and Hog fans will really hate him for it.
Is that about right?  ???
 :razorback:
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: JIHawg on March 07, 2017, 08:34:58 am
Bielema's pitch needs to be we want you, we will evaluate you, and recommend the position that you will most likely have a shot in the NFL.  That's the question-what is your position you can be successful at the next level?

After that, if you have a preferred position, such as quarterback, you can play that here.  You will be given a fair shot at winning that position.
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: Seebs on March 07, 2017, 09:38:51 am
So if you had to choose - would it be Connor Noland, who is recruiting for us, or Bohanon that may be a hybrid?  We are not taking two Qbs.

They are in the same class correct?
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: ricepig on March 07, 2017, 09:43:45 am
So if you had to choose - would it be Connor Noland, who is recruiting for us, or Bohanon that may be a hybrid?  We are not taking two Qbs.

They are in the same class correct?

Correct, same class.
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: southeasthog on March 07, 2017, 10:33:44 am
So basically it's this.....Bohanon can sign with Arkansas and play WR or OLB and Hog fans everywhere will love him for it, or...Bohanon can sign with Auburn, LSU, Miss St, etc and play QB and Hog fans will hate him for it, or...Bohanon can sign with Alabama and play whatever and Hog fans will really hate him for it.
Is that about right?  ???
 :razorback:
Whats so hard to understand. Become a Hog-Be loved by Hog Fans. Sign elsewhere in the Conference-Not loved by Hog Fans. Seems simple to me.
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: razorbackfan4life on March 07, 2017, 10:51:55 am
Like I've mentioned in the past, this is a player you really want to get.  He has an incredibly high ceiling.

I would like to think that he is willing to come in and compete for a spot.

With that said if he ends up going elsewhere I'm sure that it wont be from a lack of interest on our part. 
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: hawginbigd1 on March 07, 2017, 12:20:31 pm
So if you had to choose - would it be Connor Noland, who is recruiting for us, or Bohanon that may be a hybrid?  We are not taking two Qbs.

They are in the same class correct?
If this is your hang-up IMO you are engaging in being an idiot, absolutely 0 chance I pass up an opportunity to ink this kid.
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: hogman99 on March 07, 2017, 01:29:32 pm
Like I've mentioned in the past, this is a player you really want to get.  He's got a incredibly high ceiling.

I would like to think that he is willing to come in a compete for a spot.

With that said if he ends up going elsewhere I'm sure that it wont be from a lack of interest on our part.

Saw him play at the State Basketball tournament. He was very impressive physically, athletic, strong and explosive.
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: King Kong on March 07, 2017, 01:38:50 pm
So if you had to choose - would it be Connor Noland, who is recruiting for us, or Bohanon that may be a hybrid?  We are not taking two Qbs.

They are in the same class correct?

I think you can justify taking both as Noland may have a chance to go pro in baseball
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: Seebs on March 07, 2017, 02:13:52 pm
If this is your hang-up IMO you are engaging in being an idiot, absolutely 0 chance I pass up an opportunity to ink this kid.
You mad bro? 
I would assume the UA staff will do everything it can to sign this kid.  If we can't because he wants to play QB and the staff thinks he will fit better elsewhere what can you do? Lie to him?

Nobody suggested that he not be recruited heavily.  There are a lot of questions that need to be answered first - the first question is if the kid even wants to be a Razorback.  The next question at what position does HE believe is best for him. The third question to be answered is does Arkansas have the luxury to sign two at a specialized position since we may sign well under 20 players this year.

Will be fun to watch - even for we idiots.
 
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: Seebs on March 07, 2017, 02:15:32 pm
I think you can justify taking both as Noland may have a chance to go pro in baseball
Oh Agreed. If it even looks like Conner is a First/Second round talent then you pull out all the stops for Bohanon. That kind of money is hard to pass up. 
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: Hollywood870 on March 07, 2017, 04:46:25 pm
Oh Agreed. If it even looks like Conner is a First/Second round talent then you pull out all the stops for Bohanon. That kind of money is hard to pass up.
You pull out all of the stops for Bohanon now.
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: hawginbigd1 on March 08, 2017, 10:10:01 am
You mad bro? 
I would assume the UA staff will do everything it can to sign this kid.  If we can't because he wants to play QB and the staff thinks he will fit better elsewhere what can you do? Lie to him?

Nobody suggested that he not be recruited heavily.  There are a lot of questions that need to be answered first - the first question is if the kid even wants to be a Razorback.  The next question at what position does HE believe is best for him. The third question to be answered is does Arkansas have the luxury to sign two at a specialized position since we may sign well under 20 players this year.

Will be fun to watch - even for we idiots.
Bad post on my part I was talking more about the staff, you said there is no way we take 2 QB's or something similar, straight up pro-style QB's I agree, but this kid is outside the norm, to me it wouldn't matter if you had 3 QBs you still have to have a place for a kid this dynamic.
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: Seebs on March 09, 2017, 01:12:12 pm
Bad post on my part I was talking more about the staff, you said there is no way we take 2 QB's or something similar, straight up pro-style QB's I agree, but this kid is outside the norm, to me it wouldn't matter if you had 3 QBs you still have to have a place for a kid this dynamic.
Follow the Bama dynamic. Sign all of the top talent you can and do not allow any of it to transfer to another SEC school.  I am happy we are besties now.
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: Big Boi on March 09, 2017, 04:39:16 pm
 Kentucky basketball, and Alabama football, make a point to sign the top players in SEC states. Its probably a strategy implemented by most, but they seem to be the best.   
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: Letsgohoggin on March 10, 2017, 11:13:25 am
Word from Earle is that Mississippi State is his favorite at this time.
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: PorkRinds on March 10, 2017, 11:22:36 am
Word from Earle is that Mississippi State is his favorite at this time.

Good god why? Of all places to go...
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: logand02 on March 10, 2017, 11:27:53 am
It is 100 miles closer to where he lives...
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: HawgTide on March 10, 2017, 11:28:37 am
Good god why? Of all places to go...

Must be a Dak fan
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: GoHogzzGo on March 10, 2017, 11:45:42 am
Word from Earle is that Mississippi State is his favorite at this time.

Until the money dries up after being thrown under the bus by Ole Miss  ;) .

Really hope to see him on campus, first and foremost because of his talent. I know our reputation is prostyle QB but should be open competition for QB spot with Bohanon. I'm sure he could play in the mold of Russel Wilson if he wins out. Secondarily to keep him away from in division schools.
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: Vantage 8 dude on March 10, 2017, 01:02:34 pm
It is 100 miles closer to where he lives...
Gosh, a WHOLE WHOPPING 100 miles ??? Now THAT'S a deal killer.
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: logand02 on March 10, 2017, 02:07:57 pm
If you think distance isn't a factor you're as ignorant as I suspect you. Especially from your tactless posts I've read over time. 

Any one with any degree of rationalism could easily see if MSU has 7 homes games the distance of 100 miles is the difference of many friends and family making games in person. Not to mention it would be easier for general visiting.

It's only 100 miles it's still 100 miles closer to Earle.

Being a pretentious idiot won't get you far in life even if it's just your persona online. 
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: ricepig on March 10, 2017, 02:22:43 pm
If you think distance isn't a factor you're as ignorant as I suspect you. Especially from your tactless posts I've read over time. 

Any one with any degree of rationalism could easily see if MSU has 7 homes games the distance of 100 miles is the difference of many friends and family making games in person. Not to mention it would be easier for general visiting.

It's only 100 miles it's still 100 miles closer to Earle.

Being a pretentious idiot won't get you far in life even if it's just your persona online. 

Then Memphis should be his favorite, correct?
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: Rock City Razorback on March 10, 2017, 02:30:40 pm
I bet he doesn't end up in Fayetteville
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: Vantage 8 dude on March 10, 2017, 02:37:13 pm
If you think distance isn't a factor you're as ignorant as I suspect you. Especially from your tactless posts I've read over time. 

Any one with any degree of rationalism could easily see if MSU has 7 homes games the distance of 100 miles is the difference of many friends and family making games in person. Not to mention it would be easier for general visiting.

It's only 100 miles it's still 100 miles closer to Earle.

Being a pretentious idiot won't get you far in life even if it's just your persona online.
Well I honestly have no ABSOLUTE knowledge as to whether or not 100 miles would be the deciding factor; and I suggest that unless you personally know the young man and his thought process, you don't either. Therefore my thoughts/comments are no more pretentious than any of yours.

I would hope that if he's wavering his home state allegiance (assuming he has any) would be able to overcome the difference. That, however, remains to be seen. I suspect that the offensive scheme(s), current roster content, etc. would actually play would weigh far more into his ultimate decision than mere distance. However, if you don't like my attitude and/or comments then I suggest you either live with it or you consult your doctor and have him prescribe you some Valium. Now go in peace, brother.
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: Vantage 8 dude on March 10, 2017, 02:37:41 pm
I bet he doesn't end up in Fayetteville
Could be; then again, perhaps not.
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: Vantage 8 dude on March 10, 2017, 02:38:11 pm
Then Memphis should be his favorite, correct?
According to his line of reasoning that would sound about right, rice.
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: ricepig on March 26, 2017, 05:58:10 pm
https://twitter.com/ArRecruitingGuy/status/846099851981049859
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: fullfan on March 26, 2017, 07:10:39 pm
I hope he is under center for the Hogs at the season opener in 2019.  :razorback:  Time for a run/pass option at the QB position.
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: King Kong on March 27, 2017, 08:48:00 am
Word from Earle is that Mississippi State is his favorite at this time.

Must not have visited there yet
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: NoogaHog on March 27, 2017, 09:22:52 am
Must not have visited there yet

I dunno, have you ever been to Earle? That bar is pretty low.
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: redleg on March 27, 2017, 10:51:30 am
Bielema is going to stick with a pro style offense, which Bohanon doesn't fit. Chances are, Bohanon will be playing for Auburn or LSU in 2018 at QB. The thing is, he'd probably have a better future at WR or OLB, regardless where he goes to school.
There are not very many dual-threat running QB's that make it in the NFL. Cam Newton is an exception, mostly due to his overall talent, and especially his size. If I was in charge of drafting players for an NFL team, I would never draft a dual-threat QB, and especially not one that played in a spread or spread-option offense.
Bohanon might do well at his chosen school as a running QB, and he might even get drafted, but his longevity in the NFL will be diminished due to his proclivity to run. Any QB in the League that runs a lot does not last nearly as long as a pocket-passer.
 :razorback:
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: chiti66 on April 10, 2017, 04:24:42 pm
This kid is a bigger version of Deshaun Watson....I hope we don't live to experience UGA did when facing Clemson.  Kid was literally in their backyard and they didn't recruit for the same reasons UA is hinting at...

Sign both and the best will shine.
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: Rock City Razorback on April 10, 2017, 04:40:05 pm
This kid is a bigger version of Deshaun Watson....I hope we don't live to experience UGA did when facing Clemson.  Kid was literally in their backyard and they didn't recruit for the same reasons UA is hinting at...

Sign both and the best will shine.

Bad comparison. He has nowhere near the throwing ability of Watson.
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: rolyat_2008 on April 10, 2017, 08:37:28 pm
This kid is a bigger version of Deshaun Watson....I hope we don't live to experience UGA did when facing Clemson.  Kid was literally in their backyard and they didn't recruit for the same reasons UA is hinting at...

Sign both and the best will shine.
Watson? Cmon man

6A Georgia HS football vs Earle
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: NotSoFastMyFriend on April 10, 2017, 09:29:41 pm
nm
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: Pork Twain on April 11, 2017, 07:43:47 am
I swear some on here want to return to the HDN days and offer every in-state kid, no matter what position he played or how deep we were there.
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: onebadrubi on April 11, 2017, 08:08:05 am
I swear some on here want to return to the HDN days and offer every in-state kid, no matter what position he played or how deep we were there.

It's only going to get worse as this kids recruitment keeps taking off. 

Some want a mobile QB so bad, they will spin it to a racial thing. 
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: Hawg Red on April 11, 2017, 08:30:01 am
I'm not as into football as I am basketball, but has it been discussed what Noland's chances of playing pro baseball are? Personally, I'd like to see the staff offer both and offer Gerry as a QB. By all accounts, the kid is a great talent and an exceptional athlete. He's not someone I'd want going to another SEC program. I get that he isn't a pro-style QB, and I agree with the poster (I think it was redleg) that made the point about running QBs not having long NFL careers compared to pocket-passers. It sounds to me like Gerry should consider switching positions if he wants to have a better shot at being an NFL player, though I have no doubt he can be a very good college QB because dual-threat QBs do have good success in college. Again, not a huge football guy but it sounds like he could have a great college and NFL career by switching positions.

Just my less-than-informed take on it. I'd like to see us offer him as a QB and get him on board. I'd love to see him open up more to being moved around and consider the long-term implications of sticking it out as a dual-threat QB (and I'm assuming that he is a dual-threat QB based on what I've read in this thread). Everyone says he's a great kid and I want Arkansas kids to succeed if they are quality young men. I want this kid in a Razorback uniform but I'll understand if he doesn't happen if he's dead-set on being a QB and if the staff doesn't want to offer him as a QB (goes back to Noland -- is he a lock to play football?).
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: chiti66 on April 11, 2017, 08:47:07 am
It's only going to get worse as this kids recruitment keeps taking off. 

Some want a mobile QB so bad, they will spin it to a racial thing. 

Only in Arkansas....you dudes are comical.  For the record, I don't give a rats butt what color the kid is, he is an athlete who can help out the Hogs. I lived in Atlanta during the time when Watson was being recruited, and UGA felt that he wasn't a QB, so they didn't really recruit him as they felt that he didn't fit their system.....but he'll be a 1st round draft pic next month.

And as for HS classification....really?

WPS!
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: chiti66 on April 11, 2017, 08:51:36 am
I'm not as into football as I am basketball, but has it been discussed what Noland's chances of playing pro baseball are? Personally, I'd like to see the staff offer both and offer Gerry as a QB. By all accounts, the kid is a great talent and an exceptional athlete. He's not someone I'd want going to another SEC program. I get that he isn't a pro-style QB, and I agree with the poster (I think it was redleg) that made the point about running QBs not having long NFL careers compared to pocket-passers. It sounds to me like Gerry should consider switching positions if he wants to have a better shot at being an NFL player, though I have no doubt he can be a very good college QB because dual-threat QBs do have good success in college. Again, not a huge football guy but it sounds like he could have a great college and NFL career by switching positions.

Just my less-than-informed take on it. I'd like to see us offer him as a QB and get him on board. I'd love to see him open up more to being moved around and consider the long-term implications of sticking it out as a dual-threat QB (and I'm assuming that he is a dual-threat QB based on what I've read in this thread). Everyone says he's a great kid and I want Arkansas kids to succeed if they are quality young men. I want this kid in a Razorback uniform but I'll understand if he doesn't happen if he's dead-set on being a QB and if the staff doesn't want to offer him as a QB (goes back to Noland -- is he a lock to play football?).

The current trend is that most of these kids are not looking for a 10 year career in the NFL.  Hell, with the money that is being thrown around these days, why would anyone want to play more than 3-5 years. 

As for mobile or pro-style QBs....both are desired and are successful in the NFL.
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: chiti66 on April 11, 2017, 08:53:27 am
It's only going to get worse as this kids recruitment keeps taking off. 

Some want a mobile QB so bad, they will spin it to a racial thing. 

Hell who knows, the kid could be another....Matt Jones, albeit, with a better arm:).

WPS
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: bennyl08 on April 11, 2017, 10:26:37 am
The current trend is that most of these kids are not looking for a 10 year career in the NFL.  Hell, with the money that is being thrown around these days, why would anyone want to play more than 3-5 years. 

As for mobile or pro-style QBs....both are desired and are successful in the NFL.

??

That is not a trend at all.
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: ricepig on April 11, 2017, 11:03:04 am
I'm not as into football as I am basketball, but has it been discussed what Noland's chances of playing pro baseball are? Personally, I'd like to see the staff offer both and offer Gerry as a QB. By all accounts, the kid is a great talent and an exceptional athlete. He's not someone I'd want going to another SEC program. I get that he isn't a pro-style QB, and I agree with the poster (I think it was redleg) that made the point about running QBs not having long NFL careers compared to pocket-passers. It sounds to me like Gerry should consider switching positions if he wants to have a better shot at being an NFL player, though I have no doubt he can be a very good college QB because dual-threat QBs do have good success in college. Again, not a huge football guy but it sounds like he could have a great college and NFL career by switching positions.

Just my less-than-informed take on it. I'd like to see us offer him as a QB and get him on board. I'd love to see him open up more to being moved around and consider the long-term implications of sticking it out as a dual-threat QB (and I'm assuming that he is a dual-threat QB based on what I've read in this thread). Everyone says he's a great kid and I want Arkansas kids to succeed if they are quality young men. I want this kid in a Razorback uniform but I'll understand if he doesn't happen if he's dead-set on being a QB and if the staff doesn't want to offer him as a QB (goes back to Noland -- is he a lock to play football?).

So, go back on your promise of only taking 1 QB to your first commit who is recruiting feverishly for you? It almost cost us a safety last year, notice how a certain DB was listed as a CB in our list of commits?

We have a very limited number of scholarships this year, less than 20, so I don't see us offering as QB. As to Noland to MLB, he needs to pick up some mph to get in the discussion of top money, can he??
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: onebadrubi on April 11, 2017, 11:06:12 am
Hell who knows, the kid could be another....Matt Jones, albeit, with a better arm:).

WPS

And that could very well be correct, and he will be given the opportunity to display that talent the next few years in high school
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: ricepig on April 11, 2017, 11:08:45 am
And that could very well be correct, and he will be given the opportunity to display that talent the next few years in high school

One more year.
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: onebadrubi on April 11, 2017, 11:32:42 am
One more year.

Geeze hard to believe we are 1 year away from 2018 signing class. 
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: chiti66 on April 11, 2017, 11:58:26 am
??

That is not a trend at all.
Meant to say, "at a 10 year career".  The average of a NFL player is 3.3 years. 
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: bennyl08 on April 11, 2017, 12:01:45 pm
Meant to say, "at a 10 year career".  The average of a NFL player is 3.3 years.

Still not a trend, it's always been a short career in the NFL.
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: chiti66 on April 11, 2017, 12:06:37 pm
So, go back on your promise of only taking 1 QB to your first commit who is recruiting feverishly for you? It almost cost us a safety last year, notice how a certain DB was listed as a CB in our list of commits?

We have a very limited number of scholarships this year, less than 20, so I don't see us offering as QB. As to Noland to MLB, he needs to pick up some mph to get in the discussion of top money, can he??

So you offer this kid as an athlete and a sincere promise to allow him to compete for the QB job.  He then goes on to win the job, do you say, "hey I know you won the job, but I promised....". Come on man!😆.  Look, I like Noland and believe that he can become our starter when the time comes, I just feel equally about Bohanon.

We are on the same team 👌🏾.
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: chiti66 on April 11, 2017, 12:07:12 pm
Still not a trend, it's always been a short career in the NFL.

Bruh
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: onebadrubi on April 11, 2017, 12:15:08 pm
So you offer this kid as an athlete and a sincere promise to allow him to compete for the QB job.  He then goes on to win the job, do you say, "hey I know you won the job, but I promised....". Come on man!😆.  Look, I like Noland and believe that he can become our starter when the time comes, I just feel equally about Bohanon.

We are on the same team 👌🏾.

Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but people are doing that with this kid and they are getting put way in the back. He is putting the schools at the top that are looking at him exclusively as a QB, MS st and Auburn for example.
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: HogHomer on April 11, 2017, 12:23:36 pm
So you offer this kid as an athlete and a sincere promise to allow him to compete for the QB job.  He then goes on to win the job, do you say, "hey I know you won the job, but I promised....". Come on man!😆.  Look, I like Noland and believe that he can become our starter when the time comes, I just feel equally about Bohanon.

We are on the same team 👌🏾.
Okay what if he's not any better at QB than the QBs we have on the roster when he gets here? He's sounds pretty set on being a QB. He might not want to change and will transfer if he can't beat out anyone. So we lose his scholarship that we could've used for a guy who would be in our program for 4 years.

Whats wrong with the coaches doing their due diligence and making sure that if he doesn't succeed at QB here he won't transfer somewhere else when we ask him to change positions?

Why handcuff yourself with a player offering him the QB spot and no position switching without even knowing if that's his best position in college?
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: hawginbigd1 on April 11, 2017, 12:36:58 pm
So, go back on your promise of only taking 1 QB to your first commit who is recruiting feverishly for you? It almost cost us a safety last year, notice how a certain DB was listed as a CB in our list of commits?

We have a very limited number of scholarships this year, less than 20, so I don't see us offering as QB. As to Noland to MLB, he needs to pick up some mph to get in the discussion of top money, can he??
Not to say I haven't been impressed already by his recruiting, but it would be really impressive if he was working hard to get Bohanon. He may be on some level I just haven't heard much about it.
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: ricepig on April 11, 2017, 12:41:32 pm
So you offer this kid as an athlete and a sincere promise to allow him to compete for the QB job.  He then goes on to win the job, do you say, "hey I know you won the job, but I promised....". Come on man!😆.  Look, I like Noland and believe that he can become our starter when the time comes, I just feel equally about Bohanon.

We are on the same team 👌🏾.

He's the one saying he wants to be recruited as a QB, apparently he doesn't like being offered as an athlete. I think if they wanted him to play QB, they would offer him at that position. We aren't going to run a zone read option offense, so it's best we find a QB who better fits our style. Now, if you are arguing on our style of offense, start a thread in MMQB, and we'll discuss it there.
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: Vantage 8 dude on April 11, 2017, 01:48:20 pm
Okay what if he's not any better at QB than the QBs we have on the roster when he gets here? He's sounds pretty set on being a QB. He might not want to change and will transfer if he can't beat out anyone. So we lose his scholarship that we could've used for a guy who would be in our program for 4 years.

Whats wrong with the coaches doing their due diligence and making sure that if he doesn't succeed at QB here he won't transfer somewhere else when we ask him to change positions?

Why handcuff yourself with a player offering him the QB spot and no position switching without even knowing if that's his best position in college?
While I totally agree with you, as far as to your last question it's easy. Some envision themselves as the reincarnation of Vince Lombardi, Bear Bryant, Knute Rockne, Nick Saban all rolled into one. In other words, THEY'RE the geniuses and our present coaching staff the ignorant know-nothings.
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: Hawg Red on April 11, 2017, 02:46:21 pm
So, go back on your promise of only taking 1 QB to your first commit who is recruiting feverishly for you? It almost cost us a safety last year, notice how a certain DB was listed as a CB in our list of commits?

We have a very limited number of scholarships this year, less than 20, so I don't see us offering as QB. As to Noland to MLB, he needs to pick up some mph to get in the discussion of top money, can he??

I was not aware they promised Noland they would only sign one QB. Thought I made it clear that I don't follow football that closely. That seems like a deep cut.
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: ricepig on April 11, 2017, 02:55:22 pm
I was not aware they promised Noland they would only sign one QB. Thought I made it clear that I don't follow football that closely. That seems like a deep cut.

We only take one QB a year, or that's Bielema's stance on it. Presently, we have to get 4 to leave in order for to enroll all of this year's class. Next year's Sr class is small, 13, I believe.
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: chiti66 on April 11, 2017, 03:05:24 pm
We only take one QB a year, or that's Bielema's stance on it. Presently, we have to get 4 to leave in order for to enroll all of this year's class. Next year's Sr class is small, 13, I believe.
Bruh....if there are 2 legit 4* pro-style QBs wanting to come to the Hill, I am sure that CBB will take them both.  Or at least he should....
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: chiti66 on April 11, 2017, 03:07:52 pm
He's the one saying he wants to be recruited as a QB, apparently he doesn't like being offered as an athlete. I think if they wanted him to play QB, they would offer him at that position. We aren't going to run a zone read option offense, so it's best we find a QB who better fits our style. Now, if you are arguing on our style of offense, start a thread in MMQB, and we'll discuss it there.

Now we are just making shat up.  The kid has said that he wants to play QB, so recruit as a damn QB, give him a shot and go from there.  Rafe and Austin agrees with me.....

PS
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: ricepig on April 11, 2017, 03:09:36 pm
Bruh....if there are 2 legit 4* pro-style QBs wanting to come to the Hill, I am sure that CBB will take them both.  Or at least he should....remember Rafe and Austin? 


Bruh.....Allen was Class of 2013, Peavey Class of 2014.  You know, one a year??
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: chiti66 on April 11, 2017, 03:11:26 pm
Bruh.....Allen was Class of 2013, Peavey Class of 2014.  You know, one a year??

Correct.....they were both 4* QBs battling for the starting job. 
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: ricepig on April 11, 2017, 03:16:05 pm
Correct.....they were both 4* QBs battling for the starting job. 

Yeah, throw in Storey and you have another, the point is we take one QB in a class.
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: ricepig on April 11, 2017, 03:18:44 pm
Also, for 2019 we'd take Grant Gunnell and take no more.
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: Vantage 8 dude on April 11, 2017, 04:50:37 pm
Now we are just making shat up.  The kid has said that he wants to play QB, so recruit as a damn QB, give him a shot and go from there.  Rafe and Austin agrees with me.....

PS
Well first of all Rafe isn't on the Hill any longer to agree or disagree. Secondly, it's been a very common practice for CBB to stay with one...as is in single, lone, solitary, etc. QB per recruiting class. It's not as if it's some real unknown secret. At this point his choice is Nolan. Until or unless that changes I suspect no amount of moaning by you is going to change that.
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: PorkRinds on April 11, 2017, 04:54:08 pm
Bruh....if there are 2 legit 4* pro-style QBs wanting to come to the Hill, I am sure that CBB will take them both.  Or at least he should....

Bruh. We have more pressing needs than taking two QB's and our classes are small right now already. We aren't taking two QB's any time soon. Heck even one a year ends up with a logjam and kids transferring.
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: theFlyingHog on April 11, 2017, 06:54:41 pm
Bruh. We have more pressing needs than taking two QB's and our classes are small right now already. We aren't taking two QB's any time soon. Heck even one a year ends up with a logjam and kids transferring.
Dis. Right. Here.

We don't do runnng QBs and if you want to watch one then go cheer for Auburn
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: Polecat on April 12, 2017, 09:21:28 am
auburn lock
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: rljjr on April 12, 2017, 09:57:35 am
auburn lock

I'd take "the field" over him choosing the Hogs -- and that's ok. The Hogs evaluate and decide, and so do recruits.

Would I like to have him? Yes, based on everything I've read. Will it hurt me if he chooses elsewhere? Nope. Will I be ticked if he goes to an SEC rival and beats us? Nope.
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: ricepig on April 12, 2017, 10:00:30 am
I'd take "the field" over him choosing the Hogs -- and that's ok. The Hogs evaluate and decide, and so do recruits.

Would I like to have him? Yes, based on everything I've read. Will it hurt me if he chooses elsewhere? Nope. Will I be ticked if he goes to an SEC rival and beats us? Nope.

Yeah, feel the same way. We, different team's and coach's, see different athletes in different ways. Now, will I be ticked if he beats us, you bet, but that will be because lost the game.
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: hawginbigd1 on April 12, 2017, 10:10:16 am
Well first of all Rafe isn't on the Hill any longer to agree or disagree. Secondly, it's been a very common practice for CBB to stay with one...as is in single, lone, solitary, etc. QB per recruiting class. It's not as if it's some real unknown secret. At this point his choice is Nolan. Until or unless that changes I suspect no amount of moaning by you is going to change that.

Bruh.....Allen was Class of 2013, Peavey Class of 2014.  You know, one a year??
Makes sense.....but we took Town when we already had a QB, so we don't always take one.
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: Vantage 8 dude on April 12, 2017, 10:45:05 am
auburn lock
Aren't they all?
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: Arthur pigby sellers. on April 12, 2017, 10:47:25 am
You could also look at it this way. If you take 2 QBs in one class that likely has a max of 15 scholarships to give, then in reality you have 2 players for the same position and now you cut your effective scholarships down to 14.  Noland is a QB only so if Bohannon beats him out he will transfer. It really sounds like Bohannon is set on being a QB, so if he's beat out then he will very likely transfer rather than switching positions. This could also make some bad blood for Arkansas with his relatives and friends who think he never got a fair shot at QB.  If he goes to Auburn or LSU and they switch him, they really don't care if some people in Arkansas are mad at their program.
     Our recruiting has started out pretty selective and if it continues this way do you want to risk losing a scholarship that could be used on a 2 yr starter at another position?

     Also by the practice reports it sounds like Kelly is the real deal at QB and Enos also sounded exited about Hyatt who I think was another Enos steal.  It's not like we are short on QBs and probably won't be while Enos is here, so do we really want to waste an extra scholly on one.
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: ricepig on April 12, 2017, 10:51:24 am
Makes sense.....but we took Town when we already had a QB, so we don't always take one.

Well, if a 4* QB wants to "transfer" in, I doubt we say no if he fits our system. As it showed, Town didn't fit, so he transferred again.
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: hawgwash on April 13, 2017, 08:57:37 pm
FWIW I was listening to DTS this afternoon driving home from work.  Marcus Elliott was interviewing Dr. Fitz Hill about his recent trip to Fayetteville where he checked in on both the basketball and football programs. He said he spoke to Barry Lunney and CBB.  At that point Forrest City Joe called in and asked Dr. Hill if he had spoken to CBB about Gerry Bohanon.  Hill has previously expressed his favorable opinion of Bohanon and hopes he ends up with the Hogs.  Dr. Hill said he spoke to both CBB and Barry Lunney about Bohanon and feels much better about the situation.  He says he was told if Bohanon wants to come to Arkansas he will be given a chance to play QB.  At that point I arrived home so I didn't hear the end of the interview.
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: Hollywood870 on April 16, 2017, 03:07:55 pm
Tommie Frazier
Cam Newton
Tony Rice
Deshaun Watson
Mike Vick
Charlie Ward
Major Harris
Chris Leak
Jalen Hurts
Darian Hagan
Jamelle Holloway
Quinn Grovey
Tyrod Taylor
Jamarcus Winston
Jamarcus Russell
EJ Manuel
Dak Prescott
Pat White
Donavan McNabb
Dunte Cullpepper
Steve Mcnair
Tommie Armstrong
JT Barrett
Lamar Jackson


So everyone is recruiting him as a QB except us and he's a home state kid. I don't appreciate that and I'm white. Tired of the hypocrisy here. If he weren't from Arkansas I wouldn't really care. "He doesn't fit our system." Give me a break


Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: ricepig on April 16, 2017, 03:10:25 pm
Tommie Frazier
Cam Newton
Tony Rice
Deshaun Watson
Mike Vick
Charlie Ward
Major Harris
Chris Leak
Jalen Hurts
Darian Hagan
Jamelle Holloway
Quinn Grovey
Tyrod Taylor
Jamarcus Winston
Jamarcus Russell
EJ Manuel
Dak Prescott
Pat White
Donavan McNabb
Dunte Cullpepper
Steve Mcnair
Tommie Armstrong
JT Barrett


So everyone is recruiting him as a QB except us and he's a home state kid. I don't appreciate that and I'm white. Tired of the hypocrisy here. If he weren't from Arkansas I wouldn't really care. "He doesn't fit our system." Give me a break




According to Dr Hill on the radio the other day, we've told him he can come compete for the QB  job, so we'll see how interested he is in Arkansas.
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: Hollywood870 on April 16, 2017, 03:13:59 pm
According to Dr Hill on the radio the other day, we've told him he can come compete for the QB  job, so we'll see how interested he is in Arkansas.
He can compete like Brandon Mitchell and get moved to WR and then go win the starting job at NC State in one fall while we play a rookie Brandon Allen and AJ Derby at QB? Gonna be another one of those situations?
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: ricepig on April 16, 2017, 03:23:16 pm
He can compete like Brandon Mitchell and get moved to WR and then go win the starting job at NC State in one fall while we play a rookie Brandon Allen and AJ Derby at QB? Gonna be another one of those situations?

I don't think Bielema was the first one to move Mitchell to WR, was he? If you suggest there is something else to this, then you don't know the history of Arkansas QB's, or Bielema's QB's. Now, does our system stress more of a passer than a runner, you bet. We aren't running the zone read, and I don't see it in the future either under Enos or Bielema.
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: Hollywood870 on April 16, 2017, 03:29:29 pm
I don't think Bielema was the first one to move Mitchell to WR, was he? If you suggest there is something else to this, then you don't know the history of Arkansas QB's, or Bielema's QB's. Now, does our system stress more of a passer than a runner, you bet. We aren't running the zone read, and I don't see it in the future either under Enos or Bielema.
Some of those qb's didn't run the zone read, but what's wrong with it? Are we to stupid to mix in some zone read? Get him on the corner on bootlegs and he would be a nightmare. He would also be able to avoid the rush better as a drop back passer due to his strength and agility? Maybe he just isn't a great passer. I guess we'll see. I'm more upset that he's an instate kid and he'll probably go to a school that will build an offense around him like Dak Prescott or Cam Newton. Did Auburn run the zone read with Sean White? No, they adapted. Why couldn't we adapt?
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: Hollywood870 on April 16, 2017, 03:33:25 pm
Alabama goes from Blake Sims, to Jake Coker, back to Hurts. I guess they know how to adapt to what they have.
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: ricepig on April 16, 2017, 03:36:50 pm
Some of those qb's didn't run the zone read, but what's wrong with it. Are we to stupid to mix in some zone read? Get him on the corner on bootlegs and he would be a nightmare. He would also be able to avoid the rush better as a drop back passer due to his strength and agility? Maybe he just isn't a great passer. I guess we'll see.

If it isn't your offense, that's what's wrong with it. Have you watched him play? It's against 3A schools who aren't very good at football, I live in the area. He may be the greatest athlete to ever live in Arkansas, WM should have given his mom a principal's job, he'd have a lot better competition to prove himself.
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: ricepig on April 16, 2017, 03:37:56 pm
Alabama goes from Blake Sims, to Jake Coker, back to Hurts. I guess they know how to adapt to what they have.

Go cheer for Bama, then. If you're complaining about the offense, then try MMQB, this is the recruiting forum.
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: Hollywood870 on April 16, 2017, 03:47:00 pm
When you're continually less talented than the major powers in your conference, you may want to do something a little unorthodox. I love Enos, don't get me wrong. But let's not limit ourselves. How many yards did Tommie Armstrong pass for this year while running some zone read? Is there a law that says we can't develop a black quarterback here? We might as well build Quinn Grovey a statue then. I don't like losing in state kids of this caliber. I didn't think Peavey got a fair shake either. But I may be wrong. Guess he went to SMU? We'll see how he does. I do know Austin Allen took a lot of hits because we have less talent at the line of scrimmage than most of our competition. Hopefully it was growing pains for the line last year and they really come together in the run and passing game.
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: Hollywood870 on April 16, 2017, 03:50:06 pm
If it isn't your offense, that's what's wrong with it. Have you watched him play? It's against 3A schools who aren't very good at football, I live in the area. He may be the greatest athlete to ever live in Arkansas, WM should have given his mom a principal's job, he'd have a lot better competition to prove himself.
You may be right. He may end up not being any good. Who all has offered him so far btw? Probably no major offers. Most likely overrated.
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: Hollywood870 on April 16, 2017, 03:51:59 pm
Go cheer for Bama, then. If you're complaining about the offense, then try MMQB, this is the recruiting forum.
I hit you with a post that makes sense and you tell me to go cheer for Bama. Awesome response. How about you go change your diaper?
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: Hollywood870 on April 16, 2017, 03:55:22 pm
Ricepig you're the number one kiss ass on the board. Have been for awhile. And I do not care about getting banned. Fire away. You'll defend anything this staff does. Good luck to all of you.
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: ricepig on April 16, 2017, 03:56:20 pm
You may be right. He may end up not being any good. Who all has offered him so far btw? Probably no major offers. Most likely overrated.
You may be right. He may end up not being any good. Who all has offered him so far btw? Probably no major offers. Most likely overrated.

I think he has raw talent, and absolutely out classes his competition. Again, he doesn't fit our system, is he willing to try and learn it and develop? He has the offer, looks like it's up to him now.
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: ricepig on April 16, 2017, 03:58:15 pm
Ricepig you're the number one kiss ass on the board. Have been for awhile. And I do not care about getting banned. Fire away. You'll defend anything this staff does. Good luck to all of you.

And some criticize every move they make........
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: ricepig on April 16, 2017, 04:00:50 pm
I hit you with a post that makes sense and you tell me to go cheer for Bama. Awesome response. How about you go change your diaper?

It may have made sense to you, but it obviously doesn't to our staff, they like the pro-style offense, I guess that doesn't make sense to you. I told you they told him he could come compete for the QB job, that wasn't good enough for you. Obviously, you just wish to complain about the staff.
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: King Kong on April 16, 2017, 05:15:21 pm
He can compete like Brandon Mitchell and get moved to WR and then go win the starting job at NC State in one fall while we play a rookie Brandon Allen and AJ Derby at QB? Gonna be another one of those situations?

So much ignorance in this post. BA outplayed BM. Would CBB have let BM play WR? Yes. Would BM have been the backup QB over Derby had he not transferred? Yes

You know part of the reason Mitchell Transferred to NC State was because of CBB's relationship with Doeren, right?
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: factchecker on April 16, 2017, 05:21:36 pm
He can compete like Brandon Mitchell and get moved to WR and then go win the starting job at NC State in one fall while we play a rookie Brandon Allen and AJ Derby at QB? Gonna be another one of those situations?

How did the "veteran" Brandon Mitchell do at NC State?

I'll answer for you:

Brandon Mitchell - North Carolina State - 2013 stats:

1011 yards - 7 TDs and 6 INTs

compared to "rookie" Brandon Allen

Brandon Allen - Arkansas - 2013 stats:

1552 yards - 13 TDs and 10 INTs

Both played for teams that finished 3-9.  Neither had great seasons.  Allen might have had the slightly better season.  If you want to argue that Mitchell would have brought a running threat then here are his rushing stats for that season:

91 rushes for 274 yards and 2 TDs.

Not much of an impact on the ground.  Our fullback (Kiero Small) ran for more touchdowns than he did.
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: Oklahawg on April 16, 2017, 08:02:40 pm
Hollywood870 smells odd. Very troll-ish.

Nothing would bunch the jorts of the fanbase more than having a line of pro style QBs having to learn the freaking read option so that one kid is inspired to sign with UA.

If he comes to UA and earns the starting gig? Fine. Until then, I am not taking the bait.
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: GoHogzzGo on April 17, 2017, 11:07:34 am
Richard's Monday tidbits also state we are recruiting Gerry as a QB now. So quite a few sources out on that.
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: KlubhouseKonnected on April 17, 2017, 08:11:01 pm
How did the "veteran" Brandon Mitchell do at NC State?

I'll answer for you:

Brandon Mitchell - North Carolina State - 2013 stats:

1011 yards - 7 TDs and 6 INTs

compared to "rookie" Brandon Allen

Brandon Allen - Arkansas - 2013 stats:

1552 yards - 13 TDs and 10 INTs

Both played for teams that finished 3-9.  Neither had great seasons.  Allen might have had the slightly better season.  If you want to argue that Mitchell would have brought a running threat then here are his rushing stats for that season:

91 rushes for 274 yards and 2 TDs.

Not much of an impact on the ground.  Our fullback (Kiero Small) ran for more touchdowns than he did.

Didn't Mitchell have a foot injury early in the season too? I know we sure would have liked to have had him playing against Rutgers that season.
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: factchecker on April 17, 2017, 08:13:27 pm
Didn't Mitchell have a foot injury early in the season too? I know we sure would have liked to have had him playing against Rutgers that season.

I have no clue about the injury.  If he got hurt playing at NC State what stops him from getting hurt here.  You can play what if's all you want but the fact is that Brandon Allen was the better quarterback in 2013.  In then end Brandon Allen had a greater collegiate career.  Allen is also in the league while Brandon Mitchell..... What is Mitchell doing now-a-days?
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: HOGINTENNESSEE on April 17, 2017, 08:21:25 pm
Didn't Mitchell have a foot injury early in the season too? I know we sure would have liked to have had him playing against Rutgers that season.

Mitchell did miss several games with a lower leg injury.

http://www.sportingnews.com/ncaa-football/news/nc-state-qb-brandon-mitchell-breaks-foot-miss-six-weeks-injury-acc/131gs2czmjyrb1az4j9130kpzu
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: factchecker on April 17, 2017, 08:28:19 pm
Mitchell did miss several games with a lower leg injury.

http://www.sportingnews.com/ncaa-football/news/nc-state-qb-brandon-mitchell-breaks-foot-miss-six-weeks-injury-acc/131gs2czmjyrb1az4j9130kpzu

That sucks.  Who would have thought both Brandon's would get hurt that season.  Mitchell broke his foot against La Tech and Allen hurts his shoulder diving for the end zone against Southern Miss.

The broke foot curse might have started with Mitchell but he transferred out before it could happen here.
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: bennyl08 on April 17, 2017, 09:32:39 pm
I have no clue about the injury.  If he got hurt playing at NC State what stops him from getting hurt here.  You can play what if's all you want but the fact is that Brandon Allen was the better quarterback in 2013.  In then end Brandon Allen had a greater collegiate career.  Allen is also in the league while Brandon Mitchell..... What is Mitchell doing now-a-days?

Mitchell has his name engraved on the sidewalk at this university if I'm not mistaken (he was here 4 years and didn't have to sit out a year at NC State so I'm assuming he pursued a graduate degree there...). I wouldn't try to belittle him or bash him as you are doing here.

BM gave us 4 years of his life as was instrumental in helping us prepare for mobile qb's in his time here. He missed extended time at NC State but showed that in just one off-season, he was able to beat out all of their qb's for the starting job. He paid his dues here, lost a fair battle for the starting position, and he deserved to get some real playing time before his career ended and I have no issue with him transferring. It hurt us in 2013 no question, but I'd have done the same thing.

As for why he lost the battle to BA, Mitchell had the stronger arm and the greater athleticism, but according to the coaches (and this was apparent when practices were open as well), he struggled to put any touch on the ball when the situation called for it and he struggled with throwing interceptions. BA had a pretty good arm in his own right, had solid athleticism for a qb, but was very careful with the ball and accurate. Again, if I were in those same shoes, I'd have chosen BA as the starter myself.
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: factchecker on April 17, 2017, 09:47:01 pm
Mitchell has his name engraved on the sidewalk at this university if I'm not mistaken (he was here 4 years and didn't have to sit out a year at NC State so I'm assuming he pursued a graduate degree there...). I wouldn't try to belittle him or bash him as you are doing here.

BM gave us 4 years of his life as was instrumental in helping us prepare for mobile qb's in his time here. He missed extended time at NC State but showed that in just one off-season, he was able to beat out all of their qb's for the starting job. He paid his dues here, lost a fair battle for the starting position, and he deserved to get some real playing time before his career ended and I have no issue with him transferring. It hurt us in 2013 no question, but I'd have done the same thing.

As for why he lost the battle to BA, Mitchell had the stronger arm and the greater athleticism, but according to the coaches (and this was apparent when practices were open as well), he struggled to put any touch on the ball when the situation called for it and he struggled with throwing interceptions. BA had a pretty good arm in his own right, had solid athleticism for a qb, but was very careful with the ball and accurate. Again, if I were in those same shoes, I'd have chosen BA as the starter myself.

You are correct.  I was being unjustly disrespectful.  I respect the hell out of anyone who is a fellow alumnus of The University of Arkansas. I had/have zero problem with him transferring and hope he is doing good things in whatever he is pursuing currently.

However, if you are going to talk about bashing/belittling then you need to address the overwhelming disgusting amount of hate and disrespect that the Allen brothers (both of which are alumni as well) received. Death threats, call in shows, half-cocked conspiracy theories stating that the Allen's are starting because of daddy are just a tip of the iceberg.

My response was to those who always think the backup is the best.  You could have substituted anyone else in the equation (Derby, Duwop, Peavey later) and I would have told you that Brandon was the best option and he proved it.
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: bennyl08 on April 17, 2017, 10:08:00 pm
You are correct.  I was being unjustly disrespectful.  I respect the hell out of anyone who is a fellow alumnus of The University of Arkansas. I had/have zero problem with him transferring and hope he is doing good things in whatever he is pursuing currently.

However, if you are going to talk about bashing/belittling then you need to address the overwhelming disgusting amount of hate and disrespect that the Allen brothers (both of which are alumni as well) received. Death threats, call in shows, half-cocked conspiracy theories stating that the Allen's are starting because of daddy are just a tip of the iceberg.

My response was to those who always think the backup is the best.  You could have substituted anyone else in the equation (Derby, Duwop, Peavey later) and I would have told you that Brandon was the best option and he proved it.

You are right. I've read posts this day alone belittling both the Allens. However, they were all from troll posters not worth responding to IMO. While you, fair or not, I hold in a higher opinion and thus expect more from you.

Old  habit of mine back from the extinct politics forum. More likely to call out a poster I respect than one I don't. Though I'm not 100% consistent with that.
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: factchecker on April 18, 2017, 02:51:32 am
Well, I've bearing hearing that Bohanon has been told he is being recruited to play QB.  He is supposed to visit during the spring game.
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: daBoar on April 18, 2017, 06:28:02 pm
Well, I've bearing hearing that Bohanon has been told he is being recruited to play QB.  He is supposed to visit during the spring game.
This is good; give him a chance, with solid competition.  He'll either become a legend on the Hill as a QB or rich as a DB.
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: ricepig on April 18, 2017, 06:52:07 pm
This is good; give him a chance, with solid competition.  He'll either become a legend on the Hill as a QB or rich as a DB.

Of be just another one of the 85, there isn't any guarantee in sports, no matter where or what you play. Now, I'm more interested to see what he can go at Arkansas than anywhere else.
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: OneTuskOverTheLine™ on April 21, 2017, 12:37:14 am
Some of those qb's didn't run the zone read, but what's wrong with it? Are we to stupid to mix in some zone read? Get him on the corner on bootlegs and he would be a nightmare. He would also be able to avoid the rush better as a drop back passer due to his strength and agility? Maybe he just isn't a great passer. I guess we'll see. I'm more upset that he's an instate kid and he'll probably go to a school that will build an offense around him like Dak Prescott or Cam Newton. Did Auburn run the zone read with Sean White? No, they adapted. Why couldn't we adapt?

 Are you too stupid to use the correct participle..?  Sorry, couldn't resist.
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: Pig in the Pokey on April 21, 2017, 01:48:49 am
He can compete like Brandon Mitchell and get moved to WR and then go win the starting job at NC State in one fall while we play a rookie Brandon Allen and AJ Derby at QB? Gonna be another one of those situations?
and I remember people freaking out about it at the time and mocking me when I said on here that BA would be in the NFL. Just sayin. Where is Brandon Mitchell now? Oh, AJ Derby is in the NFL, too.

Hogville talent evaluators are garbage. When is Vin Acolese gonna break thru? Where is Kane Whitehurst?
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: Pig in the Pokey on April 21, 2017, 01:53:51 am
Richard's Monday tidbits also state we are recruiting Gerry as a QB now. So quite a few sources out on that.
some of us have been saying it the whole time.
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: Scott7703 on April 21, 2017, 07:37:45 am
He can compete like Brandon Mitchell and get moved to WR and then go win the starting job at NC State in one fall while we play a rookie Brandon Allen and AJ Derby at QB? Gonna be another one of those situations?


Brandon Mitchell was a terrible quarterback. If you are going to try to prove a point at least pick a relative example.
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: The Hawg Marshal on April 21, 2017, 11:19:25 am
I think the chances are slim that Bohanon comes to Arkansas regardless of the position he is offered.
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: The_Boot_stops_here on April 21, 2017, 11:24:55 am
some of us have been saying it the whole time.

It wasn't true the whole time.  It is now.  He will be given a shot.
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: colbs on May 04, 2017, 10:28:25 pm
Looks like he's announcing 5/19.
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: Pig in the Pokey on May 05, 2017, 12:38:06 am
It wasn't true the whole time.  It is now.  He will be given a shot.
fair enough, but he told me on the twitters, mane.

and, no, i dont talk to him regular. just that day about a bad ass looking burger he posted, and he told me whereit was from . told him to come be a QB for us, and he said "that's a plan". now, not saying that means ANYTHING, and i have no intention of asking dude anymore questions. (that's me getting in before "creepy" comments come) I do think it'll be Arkansas or Auburn.


In other news, we offered another talented black QB for 2020 class, TJ Findlay. Man, if we stack up Nolan, Bohannon, Gunnell, and Findlay. Jeez, dat's nasty.

I loved Gunnell's quote , "Enos basically made the Allen Brothers. He put B in the nfl, and he'll put A there too". awesome.
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: OneTuskOverTheLine™ on May 05, 2017, 09:39:00 am
When you're continually less talented than the major powers in your conference, you may want to do something a little unorthodox. I love Enos, don't get me wrong. But let's not limit ourselves. How many yards did Tommie Armstrong pass for this year while running some zone read? Is there a law that says we can't develop a black quarterback here? We might as well build Quinn Grovey a statue then. I don't like losing in state kids of this caliber. I didn't think Peavey got a fair shake either. But I may be wrong. Guess he went to SMU? We'll see how he does. I do know Austin Allen took a lot of hits because we have less talent at the line of scrimmage than most of our competition. Hopefully it was growing pains for the line last year and they really come together in the run and passing game.

 You don't recruit a kid because of, or in spite of, his color..! You don't change your offense based on one kid. Period. You're either a coach or not. They are offering to recruit two QB's because of his talents. That should tell you all you need to know about what they think of him and what they are willing to do in order to get him. If this staff tells him he will get a fair shaKe then you can bank on it. It's still up to this guy to either believe them or not, and comments like yours about our unwillingness to utilize black QB's are tantamount to warning the kid to NOT come to Arkansas...
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: The_Iceman on May 05, 2017, 10:39:39 am
If you want to lower your intelligence, there are some posts in this thread that will help you accomplish your goal.
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: Bubba's Bruisers on May 05, 2017, 11:03:47 am
Historically, we seem to lose one in-state blue chipper each year although that may be changing.  Anywho, Bohannon feels like it this year.  Just spit-balling.
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: Seebs on May 05, 2017, 11:28:40 am
How did the "veteran" Brandon Mitchell do at NC State?

I'll answer for you:

Brandon Mitchell - North Carolina State - 2013 stats:

1011 yards - 7 TDs and 6 INTs

compared to "rookie" Brandon Allen

Brandon Allen - Arkansas - 2013 stats:

1552 yards - 13 TDs and 10 INTs

Both played for teams that finished 3-9.  Neither had great seasons.  Allen might have had the slightly better season.  If you want to argue that Mitchell would have brought a running threat then here are his rushing stats for that season:

91 rushes for 274 yards and 2 TDs.

Not much of an impact on the ground.  Our fullback (Kiero Small) ran for more touchdowns than he did.

You know, it is easier to just call Hollywood870 a dumbarse. However,  your facts are most appreciated.
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: Seebs on May 05, 2017, 11:30:22 am
Looks like he's announcing 5/19.
Let the speculation begin on the sign positioning and what it all means.
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: jb11 on May 05, 2017, 11:40:54 am
Let the speculation begin on the sign positioning and what it all means.
Arkansas' is closest to his heart.  Those Alabama schools are just below his crotch!  I like Arkansas' chances.
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: The Hawg Marshal on May 05, 2017, 12:55:56 pm
Well he did say Auburn is his dream school so.....
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: Vantage 8 dude on May 05, 2017, 04:38:03 pm
Well he did say Auburn is his dream school so.....
Just remember that "nightmares" qualify as dreams too.  ;) :D :) ;D 8) :P
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: RaisinHog on May 06, 2017, 11:31:49 am
This is good; give him a chance, with solid competition.  He'll either become a legend on the Hill as a QB or rich as a DB.
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A 6' 4" 220 lb DB ... Cool
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: Poppa Tart on May 07, 2017, 05:58:07 pm
Looks like he's announcing 5/19.
Which just happens to be my mother's birthday. Coincidence???

Yup.
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: HoneyNuttPetrinoos on May 12, 2017, 10:08:46 am
I have seen the kid play since the 8th grade..  He is a very special talent regardless of classification..  He is alot better passer than some give him..  I think he is a better passer and runner than Connor..  He is the type of qb that everyone needs..  He is a great student as well so learning the playbook fast will not be the problem.  These two qb's will likely redshirt anyways but the competition in 2 years will be nice. 
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: HogHomer on May 12, 2017, 11:11:11 am
I have seen the kid play since the 8th grade..  He is a very special talent regardless of classification..  He is alot better passer than some give him..  I think he is a better passer and runner than Connor..  He is the type of qb that everyone needs..  He is a great student as well so learning the playbook fast will not be the problem.  These two qb's will likely redshirt anyways but the competition in 2 years will be nice.
Have you seen Connor in person to compare or just on the internet?
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: GoHogzzGo on May 12, 2017, 11:46:23 am
Looks like he's announcing 5/19.

Whoa that is quick. Where all has he visited so far? I only see Ark, Tenner, Auburn in his 247 timeline. I will man cry if he goes to Auburn, although I like Connor, would hate for Gerry to be anywhere but the hill getting his chance.
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: King Kong on May 12, 2017, 04:26:37 pm
Whoa that is quick. Where all has he visited so far? I only see Ark, Tenner, Auburn in his 247 timeline. I will man cry if he goes to Auburn, although I like Connor, would hate for Gerry to be anywhere but the hill getting his chance.

He has also visited UGA.

No clue where he goes. But he did visit us last and before that visit was talking about December Deadline. Hopefully thet means the coaches were able to sale him on Arkansas.
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: HardingHog on May 12, 2017, 08:20:02 pm
He's visited:

Starkville
https://twitter.com/iam_phenom/status/832275169418805249

Tuscaloosa
https://twitter.com/iam_phenom/status/789252273146830848

Oxford
https://twitter.com/iam_phenom/status/835346665972371456

Auburn
https://twitter.com/iam_phenom/status/847629545150623747

Tennessee
https://twitter.com/iam_phenom/status/850526326180261889

Athens
https://twitter.com/iam_phenom/status/853089871359078400

Arkansas - most recently
https://twitter.com/iam_phenom/status/858141548302741504

Us and Tennessee are the only schools he's visited with a QB committed. (UT's is a dual threat QB)
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: King Kong on May 12, 2017, 08:28:10 pm

Us and Tennessee are the only schools he's visited with a QB committed. (UT's is a dual threat QB)

Nope Auburn has a QB commit as well

http://247sports.com/Player/Joey-Gatewood-78014
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: ArkansasI on May 12, 2017, 09:13:41 pm
Nope Auburn has a QB commit as well

http://247sports.com/Player/Joey-Gatewood-78014

That's a pretty significant commit.
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: Seebs on May 13, 2017, 09:02:09 am
That's a pretty significant commit.

And I doubt he is prodding Gerry to join him in Auburn.
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: Pig in the Pokey on May 13, 2017, 04:05:11 pm
And I doubt he is prodding Gerry to join him in Auburn.
yeah, that dude is the heir apparent at Auburn if Gus remains. He may be an "athlete", but he is the #1 athlete in the country. As we all know, Gus prefers an athlete to a Qb any day.
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: HardingHog on May 14, 2017, 12:05:30 am
Nope Auburn has a QB commit as well

http://247sports.com/Player/Joey-Gatewood-78014

Ahh.. yeah, I was just looking for the "QB" designation so I missed that guy. Yeah, he looks like a prototypical Auburn QB target

So with that knowledge and what we know, I like our chances with Mr. Bohannon. Hope he's a Hog May 19th!
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: KlubhouseKonnected on May 14, 2017, 04:26:48 pm
Auburn wants two QB's and at least initially Gatewood was not happy with that.
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: redleg on May 15, 2017, 09:43:11 am
If Bohanon signs with Arkansas, and I certainly hope that he does, I would not be surprised at all if he is moved to OLB after a year. I think that position would suit him better, and it would give him a much higher chance of making it to the next level (NFL) with an extended career, instead of a flash-in-the-pan as a QB.
 :razorback:
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: Pig in the Pokey on May 15, 2017, 09:59:26 am
If Bohanon signs with Arkansas, and I certainly hope that he does, I would not be surprised at all if he is moved to OLB after a year. I think that position would suit him better, and it would give him a much higher chance of making it to the next level (NFL) with an extended career, instead of a flash-in-the-pan as a QB.
 :razorback:
Not sure where this logic comes from except that he would actually be able to play other positions. Dude has a HUGE arm,is super accurate, and is a true QB. He hits his receivers in stride, even 60 yards downfield. His yards are almost all from deep balls.

He probably beats out Connor Nolan, when it comes down to it.

#1 Prospect in the State! #1 , consensus 4*, #11 dual threat Qb;and ya'll want him to change positions. pppssshhhtttt...

what we need to hope is he doesnt go to Alabama.
http://247sports.com/Player/Gerry-Bohanon-94311


offers, as a QB: LSU, ALABAMA, AUBURN, Arkansas, Baylor, Louisville, Tennessee, Miss State, Ole Piss, Georgia, .... and the list goes on.

He is quite possibly better than Connor, we need to all understand this. We also need to understan that Nolan is ridiculously good as a pitcher , lifetime era of 0.4, so he quite possibly gets the multi-millions that could keep him from ever seeing the field as a Hog.   http://www.hudl.com/video/3/6798230/582a9c6b3bd81447ac6438e4 video is nasty. 7:40 , double stiff arm run is LOL.

Next Friday, we all need to show the love and let's be super happy for this prospect if we are lucky enough to get him. Fair warning to those that immediately try to make him into a LB, TE, or DE. I WILL call you out, folks!! We can even hypothesise as to WHY people won't give him the credit that an Arkansas' pre-season Mr Football deserves. :P
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: Pig in the Pokey on May 15, 2017, 10:32:42 am
not that I don't love having both if we can. Between those two, imo, we should have us a star or two.
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: rolyat_2008 on May 15, 2017, 10:58:33 am
Not sure where this logic comes from except that he would actually be able to play other positions. Dude has a HUGE arm,is super accurate, and is a true QB. He hits his receivers in stride, even 60 yards downfield. His yards are almost all from deep balls.

He probably beats out Connor Nolan, when it comes down to it.

He is quite possibly better than Connor, we need to all understand this.
Calm down dude and quit ragging on Connor's abilities only because he's been committed for so long and not the 'next' commit.
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: Pig in the Pokey on May 15, 2017, 11:07:19 am
Calm down dude and quit ragging on Connor's abilities only because he's been committed for so long and not the 'next' commit.
calm down? ragging on connor? I literally called him "ridiculously good", and said "imo" , while never caps locking or using exclamation points. Calm down, you said.  wth are you onabout?  ::)  seem a bit triggered.

that "next commit" is the best prospect in the state, bruh.
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: RazorPiggie on May 15, 2017, 12:05:07 pm
Not sure where this logic comes from except that he would actually be able to play other positions. Dude has a HUGE arm,is super accurate, and is a true QB. He hits his receivers in stride, even 60 yards downfield. His yards are almost all from deep balls.

He probably beats out Connor Nolan, when it comes down to it.

#1 Prospect in the State! #1 , consensus 4*, #11 dual threat Qb;and ya'll want him to change positions. pppssshhhtttt...

what we need to hope is he doesnt go to Alabama.
http://247sports.com/Player/Gerry-Bohanon-94311


offers, as a QB: LSU, ALABAMA, AUBURN, Arkansas, Baylor, Louisville, Tennessee, Miss State, Ole Piss, Georgia, .... and the list goes on.

He is quite possibly better than Connor, we need to all understand this. We also need to understan that Nolan is ridiculously good as a pitcher , lifetime era of 0.4, so he quite possibly gets the multi-millions that could keep him from ever seeing the field as a Hog.   http://www.hudl.com/video/3/6798230/582a9c6b3bd81447ac6438e4 video is nasty. 7:40 , double stiff arm run is LOL.

Next Friday, we all need to show the love and let's be super happy for this prospect if we are lucky enough to get him. Fair warning to those that immediately try to make him into a LB, TE, or DE. I WILL call you out, folks!! We can even hypothesise as to WHY people won't give him the credit that an Arkansas' pre-season Mr Football deserves. :P

Their ranking is basically the same. I'll gladly take both. Noland can play baseball and Bohanon has potential to play other positions, so both have fall backs if they don't win the starting job.
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: Hogberry Snortcake on May 15, 2017, 12:28:21 pm
Their ranking is basically the same. I'll gladly take both. Noland can play baseball and Bohanon has potential to play other positions, so both have fall backs if they don't win the starting job.

This.  I have no particular inside information, but I worry about Noland and the MLB draft.  If we get both, that doesn't leave us high and dry. 
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: Vantage 8 dude on May 15, 2017, 12:54:31 pm
Auburn wants two QB's and at least initially Gatewood was not happy with that.
And of course contrast that initial reaction with that of Noland who is all for Bohanon coming on board, even if a potential rival for the same position in the same class. Wonder who really has the best interest of their respective programs at heart ??? ::) :-X
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: NoogaHog on May 15, 2017, 01:12:41 pm
That hudl video is nasty. He is quite a load to take down besides his speed and has a really strong arm. I'm sold. (que the comparisons to Dak or Cam or Fitzgerald)
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: NoogaHog on May 15, 2017, 01:13:29 pm
I also wonder if Noland will ever make it to campus.
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: rolyat_2008 on May 15, 2017, 01:17:37 pm
This.  I have no particular inside information, but I worry about Noland and the MLB draft.  If we get both, that doesn't leave us high and dry.
With Peavey and Town transferring out it opens the potential of taking two in this class.

The scholarship limitations of the 2018 class is where taking two will hurt.
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: Bacon_Bitz on May 15, 2017, 01:43:15 pm
First crystal ball action of the week on Mr. Bohannon, and Steve Wiltfong, a national recruiting analyst for 247 who usually gets things right, switched his crystal ball from Alabama to Mississippi State.
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: Hogberry Snortcake on May 15, 2017, 01:51:06 pm
With Peavey and Town transferring out it opens the potential of taking two in this class.

The scholarship limitations of the 2018 class is where taking two will hurt.

Yeah, but it helps if one of those guys can play multiple spots.  If he's not a qb, he's not just taking up a roster/recruiting class spot.  We take one qb a year with the expectation that some of those guys will wash out or move on.  Only one qb this year and if he were to go MLB would leave us short specifically because of the loss of the two you mentioned.  I'm not worried about QB's in general at all, just believe that the possibility of CN actually making it to campus is relevant. 

Maybe someone on here has some insight into his draft-ability in that regard.  I have no idea.  I've just heard that he's good. 
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: navyhog24 on May 15, 2017, 01:53:19 pm
Otis just CB'd him to MSU as well.
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: Pig in the Pokey on May 15, 2017, 02:07:13 pm
MSU? I just dont see it. i mean, mullen is the running qb guru, yeah. But still.
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: rolyat_2008 on May 15, 2017, 02:45:30 pm
MSU? I just dont see it. i mean, mullen is the running qb guru, yeah. But still.
What do you not see? The offense fits him and Mullen is a coach that actually develops raw, athletic QBs plus he's being told look at Dak now.

Better than going to somewhere like Georgia or Auburn that promise him QB now but he signs and after on campus move him to WR or LB.
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: Virgil on May 15, 2017, 02:49:22 pm
MSU? I just dont see it. i mean, mullen is the running qb guru, yeah. But still.

It surprised me but there are now 7 picks and they are all for MSU.   
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: ADavisTheGOAT on May 15, 2017, 03:00:27 pm
Can't really blame Gerry. MSU is a great fit for him.
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: Andrew Hogfan on May 15, 2017, 03:01:57 pm
Bummer. I wanted him on the hill, at qb. O well. Good luck except when he plays the hogs.
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: justmakeit2thebcs on May 15, 2017, 03:16:00 pm
Bummer. I wanted him on the hill, at qb. O well. Good luck except when he plays the hogs.
Its not OVER!!! was it over when the Germans bombed Pear Harbor?
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: Andrew Hogfan on May 15, 2017, 03:39:01 pm
Its not OVER!!! was it over when the Germans bombed Pear Harbor?
That made me laugh. What movie is that from?
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: Vantage 8 dude on May 15, 2017, 03:42:07 pm
That made me laugh. What movie is that from?
How about Bluto's famous rant from Animal House. :) :D 8)
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: Andrew Hogfan on May 15, 2017, 03:58:48 pm
Thank you!!! Just couldnt remember. That would have drove me nuts.
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: King Kong on May 15, 2017, 04:01:30 pm
Losing an in State kid to MSU. There's a first
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: GoHogzzGo on May 15, 2017, 04:23:31 pm
.... MSU ...... what the ..... ugh I cannot wait until someone snaps Mullin up, cannot believe it has taken so long for a big program to do so.

In conference too, if he isn't going UA got to Ohio State or something not same division, dang.
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: woodrow hog call on May 15, 2017, 05:13:54 pm
This.  I have no particular inside information, but I worry about Noland and the MLB draft.  If we get both, that doesn't leave us high and dry. 

I don't think the draft is something to worry about, I think he will be drafted but, I think he is pretty set on being a two sport hog. The money it would probably take to keep him from coming to school, is the kind of money they only throw around to the early rounds, and I don't think he projects that high.

That is of course subject to change if he comes out next spring and has added 5 to 6 MPH to his fast ball, that could bring him into the discussion for an early pick and a large signing bonus, but then you have the sign-ability factor. When a kid is legitimate two sport star it's always a risk drafting them early because of the draw for them to go on to school and give football a try.
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: Andrew Hogfan on May 15, 2017, 05:22:52 pm
I have no idea, but what are the chances he adds that much to his fastball? 5-6 mph seems like a lot to me. How common is it? What is the normal gain between Jr and Sr year?
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: PorkRyan on May 15, 2017, 05:53:21 pm
I have no idea, but what are the chances he adds that much to his fastball? 5-6 mph seems like a lot to me. How common is it? What is the normal gain between Jr and Sr year?

He added about 1 mph from last year to this year.  Adding 5-6 in one year for a two sport player that is fully grown and coordinated is almost impossible.  It would take 100% dedication to a year round throwing program to even have a chance at that. 
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: ricepig on May 15, 2017, 06:08:15 pm
He added about 1 mph from last year to this year.  Adding 5-6 in one year for a two sport player that is fully grown and coordinated is almost impossible.  It would take 100% dedication to a year round throwing program to even have a chance at that. 

He's quoted in SEC Country as saying it will take $2m to sign him, he won't get that, and we'll see once the offer really comes.
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: PorkRyan on May 15, 2017, 07:11:58 pm
He's quoted in SEC Country as saying it will take $2m to sign him, he won't get that, and we'll see once the offer really comes.

As a 6'2" RHP that is 86-89 with a 2 million dollar price tag there is a decent chance he goes undrafted.  Last year only two HS kids that were drafted in the top 10 rounds didn't sign.  If they can't sign you they won't draft you.  Benninghof had the highest bonus of any player outside of the first 10 rounds last year and that was 600k.  I don't think Connor would sign for that.     
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: woodrow hog call on May 15, 2017, 07:14:07 pm
He added about 1 mph from last year to this year.  Adding 5-6 in one year for a two sport player that is fully grown and coordinated is almost impossible.  It would take 100% dedication to a year round throwing program to even have a chance at that. 


I agree completely, I just added that because of the $$$$$ amounts that I had heard he was looking to sign for,  that would be the only way he could get close to those figures.
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: ricepig on May 15, 2017, 07:37:03 pm
Bohanon is going to Oxfart tomorrow to visit.
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: NotSoFastMyFriend on May 15, 2017, 08:10:00 pm
Can't really blame Gerry. MSU is a great fit for him.
Agree. I think he'll do well there.
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: HOGINTENNESSEE on May 15, 2017, 08:11:41 pm
Bohanon is going to Oxfart tomorrow to visit.

Can't pass on a chance for a nice hand out
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: AlmaHog2011 on May 15, 2017, 09:11:31 pm
Can't lose this kid to Miss State!! No freakin way if we do BB better hope the Greenwood kid is a stud. Bohannon looks like a kid you should mold your offense to. I don't care about excuses this kid should be a Hog.
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: PintailKiller on May 15, 2017, 09:11:43 pm
I also wonder if Noland will ever make it to campus.

He will.  He is a  good pitcher, but not good enough to get drafted in the top 10 rounds.
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: Huds_HawgTide on May 15, 2017, 09:20:47 pm
Can't believe no one has called the dude out...the Japanese bombed Pearl Harbor not the Germans wth is wrong with you ppl usually never let incorrect info fly
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: factchecker on May 15, 2017, 09:26:41 pm
Can't believe no one has called the dude out...the Japanese bombed Pearl Harbor not the Germans wth is wrong with you ppl usually never let incorrect info fly

(https://img.memesuper.com/1dcfe91469c2031b854328bfd2e25f06_not-sure-if-fry-not-sure-if-fry-meme-not-sure-if-sarcasm_1200-630.jpeg)

The quote is from Animal House:

Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: Seebs on May 15, 2017, 09:29:40 pm
Can't believe no one has called the dude out...the Japanese bombed Pearl Harbor not the Germans wth is wrong with you ppl usually never let incorrect info fly

You .. um ... you should stop coming here.
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: hview on May 15, 2017, 10:04:07 pm
Man, I hope this young man signs with the Hogs!
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: Bubba's Bruisers on May 15, 2017, 10:06:05 pm
We typically seem to lose 1 in-state blue chipper each year.  Bohannon may be this year's.  If he's such a stud QB, I'm wondering why we supposedly offered him as an athlete before finally offering as QB.
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: ArkansasI on May 15, 2017, 10:08:43 pm
Gerry should be a Hog.

Razorback fans that believe MSU - or any school other than the University of Arkansas - would be a good "fit" for an Arkansan are underestimating our program and staff.

Come to Arkansas Gerry. Compete - You'll have to wherever you go. Your talents will play well everywhere.   Go Hogs!
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: Deep Shoat on May 15, 2017, 10:44:07 pm
Can't lose this kid to Miss State!! No freakin way if we do BB better hope the Greenwood kid is a stud. Bohannon looks like a kid you should mold your offense to. I don't care about excuses this kid should be a Hog.
A running QB from Earle is a long way from "molding your offense to".

Seriously, the kid MIGHT be awesome.  But he's a running qb from a 2a school.
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: Pig in the Pokey on May 15, 2017, 11:00:14 pm
As a 6'2" RHP that is 86-89 with a 2 million dollar price tag there is a decent chance he goes undrafted.  Last year only two HS kids that were drafted in the top 10 rounds didn't sign.  If they can't sign you they won't draft you.  Benninghof had the highest bonus of any player outside of the first 10 rounds last year and that was 600k.  I don't think Connor would sign for that.     
good post, man. kid is going to be a beast for us.

That said, I still really want Gerry, too. He is a hoss, man. A real load to bring down, yet fast as hell, too. I worry more about Connor playing both sports and not dedicating to the QB position more than I do the draft, though. That and pitchers always seem to need surgery. But, if he does play both, I'll cheer him on. He sure looks to be a very nasty pitcher.
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: ricepig on May 16, 2017, 07:28:53 am
You .. um ... you should stop coming here.

I'm hoping it was a sarcastic call out, if not, read more, post less.
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: RazorPiggie on May 16, 2017, 08:03:54 am
Can't lose this kid to Miss State!! No freakin way if we do BB better hope the Greenwood kid is a stud. Bohannon looks like a kid you should mold your offense to. I don't care about excuses this kid should be a Hog.

Did you know who Bohanon was 6 months ago before Bama offered? Because I know I didn't and I'd bet half of this board didn't either.
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: ricepig on May 16, 2017, 09:50:01 am
Did you know who Bohanon was 6 months ago before Bama offered? Because I know I didn't and I'd bet half of this board didn't either.

The sky is falling!!! Or maybe the ground is rising!!!
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: theshiva on May 16, 2017, 10:12:44 am
Hopefully Arkansas not putting a full court press on him means that Connor isn't going to go pro in baseball (which was a big topic about a year ago). If he does and we have to scramble for a QB while not getting any of the 2 4 stars in state... Oh boy.
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: hawginbigd1 on May 16, 2017, 10:53:19 am
I was thinking we were making some ground, but apparently not enough. The staff was in a tough situation here, and I think they could have handled it better, just my personal opinion. I think they got the guy that was at the top of their board.  It's going to hurt to lose him to Aub., or MSU.
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: Hogberry Snortcake on May 16, 2017, 10:58:53 am
I don't think the draft is something to worry about, I think he will be drafted but, I think he is pretty set on being a two sport hog. The money it would probably take to keep him from coming to school, is the kind of money they only throw around to the early rounds, and I don't think he projects that high.

That is of course subject to change if he comes out next spring and has added 5 to 6 MPH to his fast ball, that could bring him into the discussion for an early pick and a large signing bonus, but then you have the sign-ability factor. When a kid is legitimate two sport star it's always a risk drafting them early because of the draw for them to go on to school and give football a try.

Appreciate it. 
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: Vantage 8 dude on May 16, 2017, 11:57:04 am
I was thinking we were making some ground, but apparently not enough. The staff was in a tough situation here, and I think they could have handled it better, just my personal opinion. I think they got the guy that was at the top of their board.  It's going to hurt to lose him to Aub., or MSU.
Well let's wait until the young man actually makes his official decision before we go into ultimate panic mode. Who knows, perhaps all the fretting and wailing/gnashing of teeth may be for naught.
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: ricepig on May 16, 2017, 12:46:38 pm
Well let's wait until the young man actually makes his official decision before we go into ultimate panic mode. Who knows, perhaps all the fretting and wailing/gnashing of teeth may be for naught.

Well, he's committing to MSU, so no reason not to gnash those teeth for those so inclined.
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: RazorPiggie on May 16, 2017, 12:52:51 pm
The sky is falling!!! Or maybe the ground is rising!!!

We'll never know.
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: PorkRinds on May 16, 2017, 01:02:08 pm
Wonder what happens if Mullen finds a job and bounces out of town after next season.
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: Wildhog on May 16, 2017, 01:23:28 pm
Wonder what happens if Mullen finds a job and bounces out of town after next season.

Wonder if his new job is in Fayetteville.  :)
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: Pig in the Pokey on May 16, 2017, 02:20:34 pm
It surprised me but there are now 7 picks and they are all for MSU.
It may just be theat first dude heard he wasnt going to Bama and HAD heard he wasn't going to Arkansas, so he went w/ Miss State. Gerry may have fell for the Hogs since that dude's info.

The rest are rats following the pied piper.

I am still holding out hope.
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: hawginbigd1 on May 16, 2017, 02:54:09 pm
Well let's wait until the young man actually makes his official decision before we go into ultimate panic mode. Who knows, perhaps all the fretting and wailing/gnashing of teeth may be for naught.
Well I hope you are right and Rice is wrong but I don't think that is happening.
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: rljjr on May 16, 2017, 02:57:53 pm
Hopefully Arkansas not putting a full court press on him means that Connor isn't going to go pro in baseball (which was a big topic about a year ago). If he does and we have to scramble for a QB while not getting any of the 2 4 stars in state... Oh boy.

Wait, when did anyone say we weren't recruiting him with the intent of bringing him on board?
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: ricepig on May 16, 2017, 02:58:47 pm
Wonder if his new job is in Fayetteville.  :)

He coming as the QB coach?
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: Wildhog on May 16, 2017, 03:01:11 pm
He coming as the QB coach?

I'm sure he'd play a role, like Bobby.
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: Bacon_Bitz on May 16, 2017, 03:24:02 pm
It may just be theat first dude heard he wasnt going to Bama and HAD heard he wasn't going to Arkansas, so he went w/ Miss State. Gerry may have fell for the Hogs since that dude's info.

The rest are rats following the pied piper.

I am still holding out hope.

I am all for holding out hope but there ain't even a rope to hold on to here.
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: southeasthog on May 16, 2017, 04:15:21 pm
I was thinking we were making some ground, but apparently not enough. The staff was in a tough situation here, and I think they could have handled it better, just my personal opinion. I think they got the guy that was at the top of their board.  It's going to hurt to lose him to Aub., or MSU.
Since you don't know "how" the staff handled it besides offering first as an athlete and the later a QB, how could they have handled it better? Not take Nolans commit until Bohanon made his decision?
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: PorkRinds on May 16, 2017, 04:23:30 pm
My guess is that he bases his decision on what school has the least amount of depth in front of him. We are not that school.  Does MSU have a QB commit for his class? If not, it would be an obvious reason as to why he would  choose them.
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: GoHogzzGo on May 16, 2017, 05:54:06 pm
My guess is that he bases his decision on what school has the least amount of depth in front of him. We are not that school.  Does MSU have a QB commit for his class? If not, it would be an obvious reason as to why he would  choose them.

Agreed. And I'm sure Mullen is selling the, I developed Dak Prescott, angle as well. Probably showed Gerry the most love from the jump.
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: ricepig on May 16, 2017, 05:57:48 pm
Agreed. And I'm sure Mullen is selling the, I developed Dak Prescott, angle as well. Probably showed Gerry the most love from the jump.

He was Tebow's QB coach, too.
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: hawginbigd1 on May 16, 2017, 06:34:41 pm
Since you don't know "how" the staff handled it besides offering first as an athlete and the later a QB, how could they have handled it better? Not take Nolans commit until Bohanon made his decision?
I would have offered him as a QB from the start and I would have told both we are wanting to take both of you.
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: ricepig on May 16, 2017, 06:56:41 pm
I would have offered him as a QB from the start and I would have told both we are wanting to take both of you.

You would have offered Bohanon after his sophomore year?
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: hawginbigd1 on May 16, 2017, 07:11:34 pm
You would have offered Bohanon after his sophomore year?
Not what I meant talking about when we got on Bohannon, I would have been up front with Noland about it.

One reason is I am not convinced Noland barring injury ever makes a start at QB before he is in the MLB. If he is as good a pitcher as has been reported. I believe he has a 3 year starter in front of him in Cole Kelley. Being a part time player is also going to be problematic
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: Rocket23 on May 16, 2017, 07:13:46 pm
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Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: ricepig on May 16, 2017, 07:37:51 pm
Not what I meant talking about when we got on Bohannon, I would have been up front with Noland about it.

One reason is I am not convinced Noland barring injury ever makes a start at QB before he is in the MLB. If he is as good a pitcher as has been reported. I believe he has a 3 year starter in front of him in Cole Kelley. Being a part time player is also going to be problematic

Obviously they told Noland that they were only going to sign one QB when he committed last summer. I don't think Bohanon was on the radar as a QB then. As to Noland going to MLB, he's good, but he isn't as good as kids we have pitching for the Hogs now, when they were high school Sr's. Noland works in the 87-89 range, good, but not worth the money he's reportedly asking.
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: NinoHogUNIA on May 16, 2017, 08:28:08 pm
So we just gonna gaze over the elephant in the room?

I mean we had a QB transfer to Alabama St and got drafted.

I dont think his replacement was drafted as a QB.

Guess Grovey will be the last one thats worth remembering.

I really think we will look back and wonder WTH happened and why isnt a 6'4 215 lb Qb built like a warrior from the Kingdom of Kush isnt a hog.

Funny how his comp is brought up but folks got warm and fuzzies for a shot gun qb that played what 3a ball?
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: RazorWhacker on May 16, 2017, 08:36:45 pm
So we just gonna gaze over the elephant in the room?

I mean we had a QB transfer to Alabama St and got drafted.

I dont think his replacement was drafted as a QB.

Guess Grovey will be the last one thats worth remembering.

I really think we will look back and wonder WTH happened and why isnt a 6'4 215 lb Qb built like a warrior from the Kingdom of Kush isnt a hog.

Funny how his comp is brought up but folks got warm and fuzzies for a shot gun qb that played what 3a ball?

You should probably duck.
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: ricepig on May 16, 2017, 09:13:08 pm
So we just gonna gaze over the elephant in the room?

I mean we had a QB transfer to Alabama St and got drafted.

I dont think his replacement was drafted as a QB.

Guess Grovey will be the last one thats worth remembering.

I really think we will look back and wonder WTH happened and why isnt a 6'4 215 lb Qb built like a warrior from the Kingdom of Kush isnt a hog.

Funny how his comp is brought up but folks got warm and fuzzies for a shot gun qb that played what 3a ball?

Well, those same teams that offered Bohanon, all offered the 3A QB and wanted his services, correct? Our current system doesn't rely on a running QB, if you wish to debate our offensive style, that's a different forum.
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: NotSoFastMyFriend on May 16, 2017, 09:40:09 pm
So we just gonna gaze over the elephant in the room?

I mean we had a QB transfer to Alabama St and got drafted.

I dont think his replacement was drafted as a QB.

Guess Grovey will be the last one thats worth remembering.

I really think we will look back and wonder WTH happened and why isnt a 6'4 215 lb Qb built like a warrior from the Kingdom of Kush isnt a hog.

Funny how his comp is brought up but folks got warm and fuzzies for a shot gun qb that played what 3a ball?

I mean, the real elephant in the room is Connor Noland's athleticism being COMPLETELY discounted in this thread. He owns a 4.3 shuttle. His vertical (28") is right there with what Corey Clement and Leonard Fournette did at the NFL combine (28.5"). He's no slouch.

Noland is 6'2" whereas Bohanon is 6'3". We're not talking about a Ryan Mallett/Dowell Loggains difference here.

Let's not mistake Connor for a DT QB but he was respectable last season with just over 500 yards rushing and 6TD to go with 27 pass TD and 5 INT while splitting time at QB with FCS-signee (UCA) Luke Hales.

Speaking of which, Hales went for about 1000 yards passing with 10 TD and 2 INT to go with over 500yds rushing and 10 TD. Imagine if Noland would have gotten all the snaps. His numbers would be nearly identical to Bohanon.

Feel better?

At the end of the day, the Hogs got their #1 option at QB and GB gets to pick the offense that's right for him. I wish him well. He can go to whichever school he wants. Not many kids have that option. I think he'll be a great QB in a running spread offense.

Sometimes there are no losers, only winners. This seems to be one of those times.
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: Snortingred1 on May 16, 2017, 10:52:37 pm
Agreed. And I'm sure Mullen is selling the, I developed Dak Prescott, angle as well. Probably showed Gerry the most love from the jump.

In all fairness, it is a pretty nice selling point.  Dak is tearing it up.  We won last season, but Fitzgerald could come along as well.
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: RaisinHog on May 16, 2017, 11:07:51 pm
Who cares he plays 2a football in Arkansas it will take years for him to adjust to SEC level ..
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: Pig in the Pokey on May 16, 2017, 11:19:36 pm
I mean, the real elephant in the room is Connor Noland's athleticism being COMPLETELY discounted in this thread. He owns a 4.3 shuttle. His vertical (28") is right there with what Corey Clement and Leonard Fournette did at the NFL combine (28.5"). He's no slouch.

Noland is 6'2" whereas Bohanon is 6'3". We're not talking about a Ryan Mallett/Dowell Loggains difference here.

Let's not mistake Connor for a DT QB but he was respectable last season with just over 500 yards rushing and 6TD to go with 27 pass TD and 5 INT while splitting time at QB with FCS-signee (UCA) Luke Hales.

Speaking of which, Hales went for about 1000 yards passing with 10 TD and 2 INT to go with over 500yds rushing and 10 TD. Imagine if Noland would have gotten all the snaps. His numbers would be nearly identical to Bohanon.

Feel better?

At the end of the day, the Hogs got their #1 option at QB and GB gets to pick the offense that's right for him. I wish him well. He can go to whichever school he wants. Not many kids have that option. I think he'll be a great QB in a running spread offense.

Sometimes there are no losers, only winners. This seems to be one of those times.
i mean, i agree with his post. But your is also a good post. And you lived up to your name.
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: searkhogfan on May 17, 2017, 12:24:47 pm
Who cares he plays 2a football in Arkansas it will take years for him to adjust to SEC level ..


I think you discount the 2A a little much.
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: Deep Shoat on May 17, 2017, 12:46:24 pm

I think you discount the 2A a little much.
lolololololololol

Yeah, you discount a league where the average player is 5'8" 137.5 lbs and runs a 5.2 forty.

Guys like Bohannon eat 2a competition alive.  Then, most of them go to college and fail. 

Not all.  Some make the adjustment.  But they dang sure don't do it quickly, and they dang sure don't do it at QB.
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: searkhogfan on May 17, 2017, 03:04:00 pm
lolololololololol

Yeah, you discount a league where the average player is 5'8" 137.5 lbs and runs a 5.2 forty.

Guys like Bohannon eat 2a competition alive.  Then, most of them go to college and fail. 

Not all.  Some make the adjustment.  But they dang sure don't do it quickly, and they dang sure don't do it at QB.

What's the percentage of high school players that make the adjustments quickly?   Byron Jones of Junction City played as a freshman.  Alan Turner was a eventual starter.   Kenneth Dixon of Strong & Tyrell Johnson of Rison.  NFL starters.  There's more.  Just BS that because they're in the 2A that they're less. 
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: Deep Shoat on May 17, 2017, 03:16:25 pm
What's the percentage of high school players that make the adjustments quickly?   Byron Jones of Junction City played as a freshman.  Alan Turner was a eventual starter.   Kenneth Dixon of Strong & Tyrell Johnson of Rison.  NFL starters.  There's more.  Just BS that because they're in the 2A that they're less.
They aren't less.  But they sure haven't played enough competition to know who is real and who isn't.  And QB may be the worst, particularly one who can run.  I mean, seriously.  Who in 2a is going to slow down Gerry Bohanon?
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: searkhogfan on May 17, 2017, 03:47:45 pm
They aren't less.  But they sure haven't played enough competition to know who is real and who isn't.  And QB may be the worst, particularly one who can run.  I mean, seriously.  Who in 2a is going to slow down Gerry Bohanon?

Very few.  I think JC did.  But not sure about that.  They're some great athletes in 2A & 3A down south.  They just don't see a whole lot of competition.   A couple of years ago. I would have put Junction City against any team in the state. 
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: Arkiebarkie on May 17, 2017, 04:22:22 pm
Playing in the 3A at QB is going to be much slower learning curve in the SEC. QB is much different than say a Lineman or a RB.  He could certainly be ready in a couple years to start but I think it will take longer than that. If he came to Arkansas he could take his time and learn the speed of the game and not be thrown in the fire to soon. We have QB's ahead of him that know the system. Man, I hope he comes here but if he doesn't, I wish him well unless he's playing Arkansas.
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: Pig in the Pokey on May 17, 2017, 04:53:27 pm
Well, I agree with some saying he is unproven. But I'd say the same about Nolan. In his split duty last year, Greenwood wasnt exactly playing against SEC level players either. Nobody in High School is a sure fire college player except for a very select few. Those guys, it's usually obvious regardless of their classification.

It's just unfortunate these two are in the same class. Would really have loved to have them both. But, I can't blame CBB or Gerry for it. And Nolan deserves kudos for his unselfish attitude, too.
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: MrKlem10 on May 17, 2017, 08:08:47 pm
Just put off his decision.  Just going to release a top 5 list
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: factchecker on May 17, 2017, 08:15:33 pm
Just put off his decision.  Just going to release a top 5 list

https://twitter.com/ArRecruitingGuy/status/865008379587997697
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: Richard Davenport on May 17, 2017, 08:16:52 pm
https://twitter.com/ArRecruitingGuy/status/865008379587997697

http://www.wholehogsports.com/news/2017/may/17/bohanon-delay-decision/
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: PorkRinds on May 17, 2017, 08:45:58 pm
Smart move. Make sure you have all the info you need before you commit to anyone.
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: Rock City Razorback on May 17, 2017, 09:11:50 pm
Here we go again with another drama filled in-state kid that's too good to play for the Hogs... Announcing decision only to blackout and account Top 5. Won't be the last time this happens either  ::)
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: Adam Stokes on May 17, 2017, 09:24:10 pm
Here we go again with another drama filled in-state kid that's too good to play for the Hogs... Announcing decision only to blackout and account Top 5. Won't be the last time this happens either  ::)

Considering he was practically gone coming into this week, it is only good news for us.
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: hogfan14 on May 17, 2017, 09:34:05 pm
Here we go again with another drama filled in-state kid that's too good to play for the Hogs... Announcing decision only to blackout and account Top 5. Won't be the last time this happens either  ::)

If his favorite is Mississippi State I don't really think it's a too good for the hogs situation lol
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: RaisinHog on May 17, 2017, 09:58:21 pm

I think you discount the 2A a little much.

No I don't .. I spend every fall Friday night at 2a football games and I watch the SEC the next day .. it is a far cry I know all levels are but it's like so far it's not even funny .. im sure he is a great kid I hope he is a hog but every time we offer one of these low classification kids I just cringe .. and there is one.difference between him and those other kids you mentioned .. those kids all led there team to a state championship . Maybe he does his this year who knows .. but we sign these kids fans exspecting them too be the next Newton they have no chance from the git go
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: Pig in the Pokey on May 17, 2017, 10:18:36 pm
Just put off his decision.  Just going to release a top 5 list
Yes! great news/
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: bennyl08 on May 17, 2017, 11:25:37 pm
So we just gonna gaze over the elephant in the room?

I mean we had a QB transfer to Alabama St and got drafted.

I dont think his replacement was drafted as a QB.

Guess Grovey will be the last one thats worth remembering.

I really think we will look back and wonder WTH happened and why isnt a 6'4 215 lb Qb built like a warrior from the Kingdom of Kush isnt a hog.

Funny how his comp is brought up but folks got warm and fuzzies for a shot gun qb that played what 3a ball?

Watch his throwing compared to Noland's in their respective hudl tapes and you'll easily see why he was offered first as our qb and why Bohannon was offered as an athlete.

Noland throws accurate ball, with a lot more zip than Gerry, and into tight windows while under intense pressure from the DL. His motion is a lot more compact and a much quicker release.

Gerry, otoh, doesn't put a lot of zip on his balls. You watch his tape and you don't see any 30 yard passes that never go more than 10-15 yards above the ground. That isn't to say he can't do that though. Because you will see him arc a pass 50 yards down field and he doesn't seem to need to really wind up to do it, just a flick of the wrist it seems. So, the potential for him to throw zip passes is there, but it does beg the question why he doesn't ever zip them? Part of that could be his receivers can't catch them and in his hudl tape, the windows he is throwing to are pretty wide open so he doesn't need to zip it in there. Further, you see a much slower release from Gerry compared to Noland due to a much longer throwing motion.

In short, Connor looks to be almost a carbon copy of Brandon Allen. Similar size. Similar athleticism. Similar arm/throwing motion.

Gerry is very similar to Ty Storey. Both are about the same size. Both have longer than desired throwing motions though Ty's improved his in college. Both played in a small school. Gerry is significantly faster than Ty, while Ty's HS tape showed him to be a much better passer at that point in their careers.
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: Rock City Razorback on May 17, 2017, 11:30:14 pm
here we go with another insecure poorlilolearkiesaw syndrome flare-up.... coming on the recruiting thread just to criticise the state's top black athlete ::)

I come here quite often, but this board has become practically dead, so I don't comment much. And what does race have to do with it?
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: theFlyingHog on May 18, 2017, 01:07:37 am
I come here quite often, but this board has become practically dead, so I don't comment much. And what does race have to do with it?
Apparently some of these people think we have a better shot with a black QB.
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: ricepig on May 18, 2017, 07:13:41 am
here we go with another insecure poorlilolearkiesaw syndrome flare-up.... coming on the recruiting thread just to criticise the state's top black athlete ::)

What difference does his color make?
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: riccoar on May 18, 2017, 07:26:51 am
What difference does his color make?
It doesn't until you run out of other arguments.  Their is a strong argument to the level of comp he has faced.  However, he is a very gifted athlete and I hope he chooses the Hogs.
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: ricepig on May 18, 2017, 07:33:45 am
It doesn't until you run out of other arguments.  Their is a strong argument to the level of comp he has faced.  However, he is a very gifted athlete and I hope he chooses the Hogs.

I don't think any of the other SEC coaches that have offered him think 2A football in Arkansas is top notch, but they've all offered him based on his individual athleticism. I view the delay as a positive, as I think he was committing to MSU, hopefully we keep making up ground.
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: riccoar on May 18, 2017, 07:57:40 am
I know Bama also offered as an athlete.  I understand his desire, and frankly, he won't see the field in his first season anyway so he will have ample time to prove if he has SEC strength as a QB.
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: RazorPiggie on May 18, 2017, 08:40:14 am
This thread is taking a turn for the trash can.
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: Razorback_Mack on May 18, 2017, 09:07:05 am
Apparently some of these people think we have a better shot with a black QB.
We have a better shot with a dynamic athlete at QB. That's not very debatable. When defenses have to compensate for a running qb it's opens everything else up and it's much harder to prepare.  If any fans should realize this it should be ours.
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: riccoar on May 18, 2017, 09:10:59 am
We have a better shot with a dynamic athlete at QB. That's not very debatable. When defenses have to compensate for a running qb it's opens everything else up and it's much harder to prepare.  If any fans should realize this it should be ours.
But that's simply up to the coach to determine.  I don't think being mobile is the issue.  It's can he stand in the pocket and dissect the defense when that warrants.  Getting outside the box is a lot easier against a 2A LB than it is one in the SEC.
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: Hawgndaaz on May 18, 2017, 09:29:32 am
the same people obsessed with this kid being the best ever also cry when folks say LeBron isn't better than Jordan.

same. exact. people.
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: Razorback_Mack on May 18, 2017, 10:00:52 am
But that's simply up to the coach to determine.  I don't think being mobile is the issue.  It's can he stand in the pocket and dissect the defense when that warrants.  Getting outside the box is a lot easier against a 2A LB than it is one in the SEC.
It's called development. And looking at his offer list about all of the SEC West wants to develop him. The evaluation is over. Y'all can sit around typing about who he played against in high school but the fact is that people who get paid millions of dollars to evaluate and coach want him as a scholarship QB.
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: Razorback_Mack on May 18, 2017, 10:12:05 am
the same people obsessed with this kid being the best ever also cry when folks say LeBron isn't better than Jordan.

same. exact. people.
Why not show the young fellow some love? He's earned it.
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: Hawgndaaz on May 18, 2017, 10:16:00 am
Why not show the young fellow some love? He's earned it.

I'm sure he's great.

Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: greenie on May 18, 2017, 10:50:03 am
So, he's announcing top 5 tomorrow, right?  Any chance we don't make the top 5?

Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: PorkRinds on May 18, 2017, 11:40:17 am
So, he's announcing top 5 tomorrow, right?  Any chance we don't make the top 5?

Doubtful. I feel like he would include us out of respect if nothing else.
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: hawgwash on May 18, 2017, 12:32:49 pm
It's called development. And looking at his offer list about all of the SEC West wants to develop him. The evaluation is over. Y'all can sit around typing about who he played against in high school but the fact is that people who get paid millions of dollars to evaluate and coach want him as a scholarship QB.
Including Bret Bielema.
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: Bubba's Bruisers on May 18, 2017, 01:30:42 pm
Y'all can sit around typing about who he played against in high school but the fact is that people who get paid millions of dollars to evaluate and coach want him as a scholarship QB.

Fans prefer convenient arguments.  This is another one of those.
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: Seebs on May 18, 2017, 01:34:02 pm
I would expect some crystal balls to change in the coming weeks.  This went from a certainty to a second thought.
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: Pig in the Pokey on May 18, 2017, 02:43:05 pm
What difference does his color make?
it doesn't. it was a reaction that that dude poop posting on Gerry for no apparent reason. In fact, there is only ONE reason why someone would do that. ANd since all the racists have gotten bold, i respond to any apparent racism boldly.

Not calling dude a racist, before you guys all loose your minds. But, look at his post. Why is he getting a pass? Did he say the right code word or something?
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: ricepig on May 18, 2017, 03:03:53 pm
it doesn't. it was a reaction that that dude poop posting on Gerry for no apparent reason. In fact, there is only ONE reason why someone would do that. ANd since all the racists have gotten bold, i respond to any apparent racism boldly.

Not calling dude a racist, before you guys all loose your minds. But, look at his post. Why is he getting a pass? Did he say the right code word or something?

Umm, he said he was backing out of his announcement, I didn't realize that was racists.
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: GoHogzzGo on May 18, 2017, 03:43:26 pm
So, he's announcing top 5 tomorrow, right?  Any chance we don't make the top 5?

Woot yeah glad he change to top 5 only.

My guess is Arkansas. Auburn, Louisville, Miss State, Alabama.
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: Rock City Razorback on May 18, 2017, 04:55:29 pm
it doesn't. it was a reaction that that dude poop posting on Gerry for no apparent reason. In fact, there is only ONE reason why someone would do that. ANd since all the racists have gotten bold, i respond to any apparent racism boldly.

Not calling dude a racist, before you guys all loose your minds. But, look at his post. Why is he getting a pass? Did he say the right code word or something?

You're out of your mind crazy. The reason was pretty apparent. I stated my thoughts on the situation being yet ANOTHER kid that's a prima donna and in my opinion, is doing all of this announcing, changing dates, etc. to stir the pot and build up the drama. That will then make the national pundits salivate over him while he chooses to go to a bigger SEC school. I COULD be wrong in that he thought he knew where he was going, wanted to lock in a commitment and then had a change of heart where he backed off of publicly announcing. That's not the way I'm reading the tea leaves in this instance, given how so many have played out in the past. Race has absolutely nothing to do with it. You just throw that out there to try and support your argument, but no dice. Major backfire. And word to the wise, don't go around slinging insults about others being racist, especially when it has nothing to do with the aforementioned topic. I would welcome a commit from Bohanon 10 out of 10 times. I just don't like the attention seeking way of doing things.
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: PorkRinds on May 18, 2017, 07:21:52 pm
You're out of your mind crazy. The reason was pretty apparent. I stated my thoughts on the situation being yet ANOTHER kid that's a prima donna and in my opinion, is doing all of this announcing, changing dates, etc. to stir the pot and build up the drama. That will then make the national pundits salivate over him while he chooses to go to a bigger SEC school. I COULD be wrong in that he thought he knew where he was going, wanted to lock in a commitment and then had a change of heart where he backed off of publicly announcing. That's not the way I'm reading the tea leaves in this instance, given how so many have played out in the past. Race has absolutely nothing to do with it. You just throw that out there to try and support your argument, but no dice. Major backfire. And word to the wise, don't go around slinging insults about others being racist, especially when it has nothing to do with the aforementioned topic. I would welcome a commit from Bohanon 10 out of 10 times. I just don't like the attention seeking way of doing things.

Not saying you're racist at all. But you may be misreading this situation. He hasn't had any drama at all. 
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: Pig in the Pokey on May 18, 2017, 08:24:27 pm
Umm, he said he was backing out of his announcement, I didn't realize that was racists.
wth are you talking about? dude came in and drop a drive-by darn-post on Gerry. talking crap. If he had done that about Nolan, there would have been hell to pay. In fact, I myself got told to stop "talking bad about Nolan" when all i did was talk good about Gerry. This is the recruiting forum. You DO NOT come in here with that crap like Rock City did. If you do, Im gonna call you on it. And the ones that defend him are just outting your own selves.

We aren't blind. Or dumb. :P
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: bennyl08 on May 18, 2017, 09:15:48 pm
That wasn't likely racist.

Earlier either in this thread or the in state class thread, somebody posted some racist crap on how the only reason Gerry wasn't being offered as qb was because the coaching staff was racist.
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: Rock City Razorback on May 18, 2017, 09:20:42 pm
Not saying you're racist at all. But you may be misreading this situation. He hasn't had any drama at all.

I very well could be, and as mentioned, I don't have a problem being wrong. in this case, I hope that I am and that he changed announcement date because he's looking more at the Hogs despite the MSU crystal ball picks flooding in. I'm just saying I've seen it before where it's all about the buildup before committing and signing.
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: Rock City Razorback on May 18, 2017, 09:24:19 pm
wth are you talking about? dude came in and drop a drive-by darn-post on Gerry. talking crap. If he had done that about Nolan, there would have been hell to pay. In fact, I myself got told to stop "talking bad about Nolan" when all i did was talk good about Gerry. This is the recruiting forum. You DO NOT come in here with that crap like Rock City did. If you do, Im gonna call you on it. And the ones that defend him are just outting your own selves.

We aren't blind. Or dumb. :P

Call me out on whatever you think is wrong, but I'll speak my mind. And I'll be more than glad to call you out on your BS, because evidently, there's a lot of it! I never spoke ill of Gerry. Just that the situation is turning into another drama filled one because he's a highly recruited in-state player. It's been an up and down affair with those type of players.
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: ricepig on May 19, 2017, 06:50:32 am
wth are you talking about? dude came in and drop a drive-by darn-post on Gerry. talking crap. If he had done that about Nolan, there would have been hell to pay. In fact, I myself got told to stop "talking bad about Nolan" when all i did was talk good about Gerry. This is the recruiting forum. You DO NOT come in here with that crap like Rock City did. If you do, Im gonna call you on it. And the ones that defend him are just outting your own selves.

We aren't blind. Or dumb. :P
Who is "we"? And who is Nolan?
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: chiti66 on May 19, 2017, 01:22:36 pm
Mitchell has his name engraved on the sidewalk at this university if I'm not mistaken (he was here 4 years and didn't have to sit out a year at NC State so I'm assuming he pursued a graduate degree there...). I wouldn't try to belittle him or bash him as you are doing here.

BM gave us 4 years of his life as was instrumental in helping us prepare for mobile qb's in his time here. He missed extended time at NC State but showed that in just one off-season, he was able to beat out all of their qb's for the starting job. He paid his dues here, lost a fair battle for the starting position, and he deserved to get some real playing time before his career ended and I have no issue with him transferring. It hurt us in 2013 no question, but I'd have done the same thing.

As for why he lost the battle to BA, Mitchell had the stronger arm and the greater athleticism, but according to the coaches (and this was apparent when practices were open as well), he struggled to put any touch on the ball when the situation called for it and he struggled with throwing interceptions. BA had a pretty good arm in his own right, had solid athleticism for a qb, but was very careful with the ball and accurate. Again, if I were in those same shoes, I'd have chosen BA as the starter myself.

Re-reading this tread due to Bohanon's committment date change.  I like the kid and hope he signs with our beloved Hogs. But if I was his father, I would probably lean toward Miss St., due to Mullens history with QBs (Dak, and the current kid).  And IMHO, one of CBBs early mistakes was not starting BM his senior year. The fam and I made the trek from Atlanta to watch the spring game that year. My sons and I agreed that BA was more active (hyped) during the game, but it was clear to us that BM would be our starting QB.  It was nothing that he did that was so special, it was the fact that he did as well as BA, but wasn't all that emotional or hyped. I would have started BM without hesitation. He was the much better overall athlete, and his dedication to the program would have meant something, IMHO.  Starting BM didn't mean that he couldn't have been pulled for BA if/when it became obvious that he couldn't get the job done. BA is a clearly a stud!!  But we started him too early, and it wasn't necessary to do so, and decisions like these is why we are now battling MSU for the services of Mr. Bohanon. 
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: HogHomer on May 19, 2017, 01:49:58 pm
Re-reading this tread due to Bohanon's committment date change.  I like the kid and hope he signs with our beloved Hogs. But if I was his father, I would probably lean toward Miss St., due to Mullens history with QBs (Dak, and the current kid).  And IMHO, one of CBBs early mistakes was not starting BM his senior year. The fam and I made the trek from Atlanta to watch the spring game that year. My sons and I agreed that BA was more active (hyped) during the game, but it was clear to us that BM would be our starting QB.  It was nothing that he did that was so special, it was the fact that he did as well as BA, but wasn't all that emotional or hyped. I would have started BM without hesitation. He was the much better overall athlete, and his dedication to the program would have meant something, IMHO.  Starting BM didn't mean that he couldn't have been pulled for BA if/when it became obvious that he couldn't get the job done. BA is a clearly a stud!!  But we started him too early, and it wasn't necessary to do so, and decisions like these is why we are now battling MSU for the services of Mr. Bohanon.
So based off of a spring game you have decided that is why we are recruiting against MSU Auburn Bama for an Arkansas kid? Starting BM wouldn't have changed Mullen developing QBs or Gus going to Auburn or Bama domination?
You don't see players every day in practice or in meetings, who the players gravitate towards. But no a spring game is all you needed to see.

Bohanon is a good prospect but it's not the end of the world if we don't get him as we have just as good or better QB prospect in Conner. Let's stop creating false narratives like starting BA over BM is the reason we might not get Bohanon.

Edit: Too add by your own admission BM wasn't any better than BA so shouldnt we go with the younger of the two as he would presumably​ have the greater potential since he was of equal skill with BM despite having spent less time in a college program.
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: chiti66 on May 19, 2017, 02:01:17 pm
So based off of a spring game you have decided that is why we are recruiting against MSU Auburn Bama for an Arkansas kid? Starting BM wouldn't have changed Mullen developing QBs or Gus going to Auburn or Bama domination?
You don't see players every day in practice or in meetings, who the players gravitate towards. But no a spring game is all you needed to see.

Bohanon is a good prospect but it's not the end of the world if we don't get him as we have just as good or better QB prospect in Conner. Let's stop creating false narratives like starting BA over BM is the reason we might not get Bohanon.

Uh, no.  I didn't base my opinion off of a spring game.  I, like 90% of the posters here get my information about the Hogs from news reports. I am that unusual fan that follows our team rather closely, my wife says that I am somewhat crazy in my devotion.  I have traveled this great world for over 30 years, and have watched easily  90% of our games to include BB.  I have attended games at Fayetteville, UGA, and USC.  Same goes for BB....saying this to say that I have my opinion and you have yours.  If you don't think that not starting BM a few years ago doesn't have an affect on recruiting, well I don't know what to tell you.  But it is not at all a false narrative my friend. 

But I do agree with you in that if he signs elsewhere, it will not be the end of the world.
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: chiti66 on May 19, 2017, 02:16:22 pm
Edit: Too add by your own admission BM wasn't any better than BA so shouldnt we go with the younger of the two as he would presumably​ have the greater potential since he was of equal skill with BM despite having spent less time in a college program.
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No, you go with the senior, more experience player.  Experience equates to intangibles.  Arguably, BA would have been much more prepared to assume the reigns his Jr and Sr year.  I don't think that it's even a contest in regards to who had the better year as a first time starter, AA or BA.  CBB first year on the Hill was his "throw-a-way" year, so play the veterans, fight for a decent record and get the young guys ready to go the next year. We are Arkansas, not Bama, OSU, or FSU....we don't expect 10 win seasons every year, regardless of the roster turnover.  We accept 3-6 wins in a rebuild year, 7-9 most other years, throw in the occasional 10 win season and we are fans for life:). 

Woo Pig!!!
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: bennyl08 on May 19, 2017, 03:28:45 pm
Re-reading this tread due to Bohanon's committment date change.  I like the kid and hope he signs with our beloved Hogs. But if I was his father, I would probably lean toward Miss St., due to Mullens history with QBs (Dak, and the current kid).  And IMHO, one of CBBs early mistakes was not starting BM his senior year. The fam and I made the trek from Atlanta to watch the spring game that year. My sons and I agreed that BA was more active (hyped) during the game, but it was clear to us that BM would be our starting QB.  It was nothing that he did that was so special, it was the fact that he did as well as BA, but wasn't all that emotional or hyped. I would have started BM without hesitation. He was the much better overall athlete, and his dedication to the program would have meant something, IMHO.  Starting BM didn't mean that he couldn't have been pulled for BA if/when it became obvious that he couldn't get the job done. BA is a clearly a stud!!  But we started him too early, and it wasn't necessary to do so, and decisions like these is why we are now battling MSU for the services of Mr. Bohanon.

He didn't do as well as BA though. Well, depending on what you place more emphasis on.

Here's an abbreviated checklist and what each was better at

Pocket presence: Push
Mobility in pocket: BA
Mobility out of pocket: BM
Deep ball strength: BM
Deep ball accuracy: BM
Short ball touch: BA
Short ball accuracy: BA
quick release: BA
Reading defense: BA
Limiting turnovers: BA
team leadership: Push
size: BM

Mitchell gave us us a qb who was more of a threat running the football and had a better deep ball. However, more fumbles, more interceptions, more dropped passes from receivers 5 yards down field because of a lack of touch.

Allen gave us a qb who was more accurate, particularly in the short to intermediate where most throws happen. Who turned the ball over less. But who was still agile and still had NFL level arm strength.

Factor in how that year Bielema's idea was for a run first, ball control offense to help out the bend but don't break defense that year, being able to nickel and dime in the passing game and not turn the ball over were the key qualities he wanted.
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: Peter Porker on May 19, 2017, 03:42:42 pm
it doesn't. it was a reaction that that dude poop posting on Gerry for no apparent reason. In fact, there is only ONE reason why someone would do that. ANd since all the racists have gotten bold, i respond to any apparent racism boldly.

Not calling dude a racist, before you guys all loose your minds. But, look at his post. Why is he getting a pass? Did he say the right code word or something?

always bringing up race....
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: chiti66 on May 19, 2017, 04:17:00 pm
He didn't do as well as BA though. Well, depending on what you place more emphasis on.

Here's an abbreviated checklist and what each was better at

Pocket presence: Push
Mobility in pocket: BA
Mobility out of pocket: BM
Deep ball strength: BM
Deep ball accuracy: BM
Short ball touch: BA
Short ball accuracy: BA
quick release: BA
Reading defense: BA
Limiting turnovers: BA
team leadership: Push
size: BM

Mitchell gave us us a qb who was more of a threat running the football and had a better deep ball. However, more fumbles, more interceptions, more dropped passes from receivers 5 yards down field because of a lack of touch.

Allen gave us a qb who was more accurate, particularly in the short to intermediate where most throws happen. Who turned the ball over less. But who was still agile and still had NFL level arm strength.

Factor in how that year Bielema's idea was for a run first, ball control offense to help out the bend but don't break defense that year, being able to nickel and dime in the passing game and not turn the ball over were the key qualities he wanted.
Fair assessment....basically even.  Not enough separation to warrant starting an underclassman over a senior who had sacrificed so much for the team.  BM deserved to start for the Hogs his senior year....if he stunk it up, bring in BA. 

Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: bennyl08 on May 19, 2017, 04:32:46 pm
Fair assessment....basically even.  Not enough separation to warrant starting an underclassman over a senior who had sacrificed so much for the team.  BM deserved to start for the Hogs his senior year....if he stunk it up, bring in BA.

That's where weighting comes into play. Let's take those 12 listed things and weight them for a run-heavy, ball control offense out of 100.

Pocket presence: 8
Mobility in pocket: 6
Mobility out of pocket: 5
Deep ball strength: 4
Deep ball accuracy: 4
Short ball touch: 9
Short ball accuracy: 12
quick release: 8
Reading defense: 15
Limiting turnovers: 15
team leadership: 10
size: 4

Under that, BM would get a score of 72/100 give or take (for example, he gets 6/8 for pocket presence, 10/15 for turnovers, etc...). BA would score an 85.

Such that even though the list is pretty similar on who excels at what, BA excelled more at what Bielema found to be the most important for the type of offense he envisioned that year.

If we were running a read option offense that like to use play action to take shots down the field, then BM would have been an 85 and BA a 72 give or take.
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: chiti66 on May 19, 2017, 05:02:36 pm
That's where weighting comes into play. Let's take those 12 listed things and weight them for a run-heavy, ball control offense out of 100.

Pocket presence: 8
Mobility in pocket: 6
Mobility out of pocket: 5
Deep ball strength: 4
Deep ball accuracy: 4
Short ball touch: 9
Short ball accuracy: 12
quick release: 8
Reading defense: 15
Limiting turnovers: 15
team leadership: 10
size: 4

Under that, BM would get a score of 72/100 give or take (for example, he gets 6/8 for pocket presence, 10/15 for turnovers, etc...). BA would score an 85.

Such that even though the list is pretty similar on who excels at what, BA excelled more at what Bielema found to be the most important for the type of offense he envisioned that year.

If we were running a read option offense that like to use play action to take shots down the field, then BM would have been an 85 and BA a 72 give or take.

Don't totally disagree with your analysis, but still for optics, and a show of loyalty (incoming coach), I would have gone with BM.  It would have appeared that CBB was not only loyal, but fair.  Experience would bring those numbers to about even.  And again, if after 2-3 games, BM wasn't getting it done.....next.  We are great Hog fans and we agree to disagree.

Woo Pig!
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: Razorback_Mack on May 19, 2017, 05:49:38 pm
I very well could be, and as mentioned, I don't have a problem being wrong. in this case, I hope that I am and that he changed announcement date because he's looking more at the Hogs despite the MSU crystal ball picks flooding in. I'm just saying I've seen it before where it's all about the buildup before committing and signing.
The young man is terribly annoyed by the recruiting process. That's common knowledge. Get informed and quit assuming.
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: bennyl08 on May 19, 2017, 07:12:42 pm
Don't totally disagree with your analysis, but still for optics, and a show of loyalty (incoming coach), I would have gone with BM.  It would have appeared that CBB was not only loyal, but fair.  Experience would bring those numbers to about even.  And again, if after 2-3 games, BM wasn't getting it done.....next.  We are great Hog fans and we agree to disagree.

Woo Pig!

Disagree on the optics. Starting somebody for the sole reason that they have been there longer despite not being as good a player for your offense as somebody else on the team is bad optics. That's GOBN type stuff. By playing the best player, regardless of seniority, it shows he is willing to win. If it has any impact on recruiting, playing BM over BA would hurt recruiting as players don't think they'll get a fair shake since it wouldn't be a best man wins situation. The the qb who is best able to run the offense, and it being a younger guy possibly helped bring in some of the players we did in 2014, with them knowing that coach will play them if they demonstrate they are good enough.

Benching the qb a few games into the season is a bad look too. Think Spurrier. That hurts both qb's confidence and makes them played scared instead of confident. Hurts team cohesion with the offense lacking the leadership from a consistent qb. Demonstrates fickleness in the coach, a coach who can't make a decision. QB's looking to come here will wonder how short a leash they'll be on. If the receiver tips a well thrown pass and it gets intercepted, will I lose my job to the backup? Perhaps to just be inserted back into the game the first time the other guy makes a mistake? Note that this is a different situation to having an unsettled qb competition where you play both players into the start of the season and then make a decision. Under your scenario, BM would be the declared starter and then benched.
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: Potosihog on May 19, 2017, 10:20:09 pm
Only on Hogville.net does a thread about a current recruit turn into an argument about two players who are no longer on the team :-) just sayin
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: theFlyingHog on May 20, 2017, 12:13:11 am
Only on Hogville.net does a thread about a current recruit turn into an argument about two players who are no longer on the team :-) just sayin
Every time I start reading this thread I start thinking I must have accidentally clicked into jump ball
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: HardingHog on May 20, 2017, 02:47:48 am
So... He didn't release his "Top 5" I guess? I'm interested to see who he has in it whenever (if) it's released
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: Richard Davenport on May 20, 2017, 01:19:23 pm
So... He didn't release his "Top 5" I guess? I'm interested to see who he has in it whenever (if) it's released

Today.

Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: Richard Davenport on May 20, 2017, 03:50:50 pm
His top six

http://www.wholehogsports.com/news/2017/may/20/bohanon-names-top-5-schools/
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: HardingHog on May 20, 2017, 03:58:03 pm
Hogs
Baylor
Ole Miss
Mississippi State
Georgia
Louisville
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: The_Iceman on May 20, 2017, 04:06:58 pm
Hogs
Baylor
Ole Miss
Mississippi State
Georgia
Louisville

I like our chances since Auburn and Bama aren't in there. Think it will be between us, Louisville, and Miss State.
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: HogHomer on May 20, 2017, 04:08:04 pm
I thought a couple months ago he said Auburn was his dream school now they didn't even make his top 5. I wonder what happened there?
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: Rock City Razorback on May 20, 2017, 04:10:28 pm
Weird Auburn is his dream school but doesn't make the final cut. Guess he's deterred by the other QB commit. The only reason Baylor would be attractive is little competition. How anyone would want to go play for a snake like Freeze and the Ole Miss program is beyond me. Louisville is only there because of their QB right now that won the Heisman. Georgia is a good program, but do they have a good coach? Always seem to underperform, not sure Smart is ready for that role. And they'll always have a top-rated QB prospect. MS State seems to be the biggest threat and likely his leader. Mullen has had a good track record with mobile QBs, it's in the SEC, he has job security and he would have a great chance to go there and start within 2 years. They're not as good a program as Arkansas though, and I think they peaked previous years with Dak. Will be a cellar dweller once again. Hogs may not be much further ahead and struggled to beat the Dawgs while Dak was there, but I do believe UA is moving forward while MSU is regressing. In the end though, I think us already having Noland will push him to MSU.
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: Pig in the Pokey on May 20, 2017, 04:28:01 pm
Only on Hogville.net does a thread about a current recruit turn into an argument about two players who are no longer on the team :-) just sayin
lol. true. But Bohanon and Noland are similar in their strengths as BM and BA. I think they are both better than BM and BA , at least both seem , as juniors in high school, like they have higher ceilings. Bohanon is a more beastly physical specimen than BM. Both had a big arm for the long ball, which both tend to 'float' a bit. Noland and BA both have elite, quick releases and high accuracy, but I'd given Noland the edge in 'zip', although BA had some zip, too. Noland fires fastballs on a rope. It's a beautiful sight to see.
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: GoHogzzGo on May 21, 2017, 08:08:57 pm
Baylor and Ole Miss I don't understand.
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: Pig in the Pokey on May 21, 2017, 08:54:53 pm
Baylor and Ole Miss I don't understand.
well, Baylor with Matt Rhule might become a player. Ole Piss just buys kids.
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: KlubhouseKonnected on May 22, 2017, 10:49:48 am
Weird Auburn is his dream school but doesn't make the final cut. Guess he's deterred by the other QB commit. The only reason Baylor would be attractive is little competition. How anyone would want to go play for a snake like Freeze and the Ole Miss program is beyond me. Louisville is only there because of their QB right now that won the Heisman. Georgia is a good program, but do they have a good coach? Always seem to underperform, not sure Smart is ready for that role. And they'll always have a top-rated QB prospect. MS State seems to be the biggest threat and likely his leader. Mullen has had a good track record with mobile QBs, it's in the SEC, he has job security and he would have a great chance to go there and start within 2 years. They're not as good a program as Arkansas though, and I think they peaked previous years with Dak. Will be a cellar dweller once again. Hogs may not be much further ahead and struggled to beat the Dawgs while Dak was there, but I do believe UA is moving forward while MSU is regressing. In the end though, I think us already having Noland will push him to MSU.

I thought it was weird too. I have not really been following very closely but I had kind of already resigned myself to seeing another well regarded Arkansas kid throw his lot in with Gus Clownzahn.
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: riccoar on May 22, 2017, 11:42:43 am
Baylor and Ole Miss I don't understand.
My thoughts too.  Both schools are dumpster fires with the NCAA up their rear waiting on them to cough wrong.
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: clutch on May 22, 2017, 01:28:37 pm
A running QB from Earle is a long way from "molding your offense to".

Seriously, the kid MIGHT be awesome.  But he's a running qb from a 2a school.

I wouldn't call him a running QB. If you watch Earle play, they throw it more than they run. I would just say that he is a QB that CAN run. He's not your typical running QB that can't throw. He's got a cannon, and he's pretty accurate.
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: Youngsta71701 on May 22, 2017, 02:03:13 pm
I like our chances since Auburn and Bama aren't in there. Think it will be between us, Louisville, and Miss State.
I agree. Right now Mississippi State is in the league. The Dak Prescott affect.
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: Youngsta71701 on May 22, 2017, 02:04:00 pm
Baylor and Ole Miss I don't understand.
Smokescreen
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: HardingHog on May 22, 2017, 11:19:41 pm
https://twitter.com/Elite11/status/866799223013912576
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: hobhog on May 23, 2017, 12:08:17 pm
https://twitter.com/Elite11/status/866799223013912576

Wow. Looks like a senior in college already.....
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: Pig in the Pokey on May 23, 2017, 05:37:07 pm
We can't miss on this guy. He's our Cam.
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: theFlyingHog on May 23, 2017, 07:50:22 pm
We can't miss on this guy. He's our Cam.
😂😂😂
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: sickboy on May 23, 2017, 07:52:10 pm
We can't miss on this guy. He's our Cam.

Them's big shoes to fill. Cam was 6'6", 235 coming out of high school at a metro Atlanta school. Guy was huge.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0QrsdCY7z8s
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: TheRazorback500 on May 23, 2017, 08:37:32 pm
https://www.seccountry.com/mississippi-state/mississippi-state-lands-commitment-4-star-qb

FWIW
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: sickboy on May 23, 2017, 09:00:55 pm
https://www.seccountry.com/mississippi-state/mississippi-state-lands-commitment-4-star-qb

FWIW

(https://media.giphy.com/media/g5zvwUa9720pO/giphy.gif)
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: Pig in the Pokey on May 23, 2017, 09:48:51 pm
Them's big shoes to fill. Cam was 6'6", 235 coming out of high school at a metro Atlanta school. Guy was huge.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0QrsdCY7z8s
true that but we'll see how big he is in a year.
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: Pig in the Pokey on May 23, 2017, 09:50:43 pm
https://www.seccountry.com/mississippi-state/mississippi-state-lands-commitment-4-star-qb

FWIW
good news there. I think Louisville is the bigger threat at this point.
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: ADavisTheGOAT on May 23, 2017, 10:00:15 pm
Let's sell our integrity to Gerry.
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: theFlyingHog on May 23, 2017, 10:52:22 pm
Let's sell our integrity to Gerry.
My motorcycle is missing. And I don't smell anything in the kitchen
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: Pig in the Pokey on May 24, 2017, 02:36:22 pm
My motorcycle is missing. And I don't smell anything in the kitchen
good one, josh morgan  ;D
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: ADavisTheGOAT on May 24, 2017, 03:30:18 pm
My motorcycle is missing. And I don't smell anything in the kitchen
  ;D
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: The_Iceman on May 24, 2017, 04:18:06 pm
Is Gerry Bohanon that much better than Connor Noland?
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: HogHomer on May 24, 2017, 05:08:05 pm
Is Gerry Bohanon that much better than Connor Noland?
No and it's pretty debatable which ones the "better" one but some people seemed convinced to crown Bohanon, a good prospect,  as our Cam while Noland gets pushed to the side.
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: Pig in the Pokey on May 24, 2017, 05:25:34 pm
No and it's pretty debatable which ones the "better" one but some people seemed convinced to crown Bohanon, a good prospect,  as our Cam while Noland gets pushed to the side.
and some of us want both.
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: HogHomer on May 24, 2017, 05:34:38 pm
and some of us want both.
I would like both as well but I would rather have the guy that is committed and helping us recruit and lead our new recruits to hopefully new heights than a guy that looks to not really even rate his home team. First Auburn was in the lead and now Miss St. It seems that some want to talk up a guy that's not even committed yet forget about the one who's been committed for a while and is actively recruiting for us.

If Bohanon picks us great it gives us scary good depth at QB but if he doesn't we will be just as good with a great leader and QB prospect in Noland waiting in the wings when his time comes.
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: woodrow hog call on May 24, 2017, 05:38:51 pm
Is Gerry Bohanon that much better than Connor Noland?

If they are even considered to be close to the same level prospects, it would be a HUGE plus for Gerry Bohanon, when you look at the program that Connor plays in and the amount of coaching he gets compared to Bohanon. That is what is so intriguing to me about Bohanon, his upside could be, (COULD BE) extremely high, once he gets into a situation where he is getting one on one coaching and teaching about the finer points of playing QB.

That and the fact that I was a fan of "Hell On Wheels", and every time I see his name, I hear the voice of the crazy swede saying "Mr. Bohanon".
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: Seebs on May 24, 2017, 06:26:31 pm
Let's sell our integrity to Gerry.

Baylor, Ole MIss and Louisville in his final six ...
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: ArkansasI on May 24, 2017, 06:27:45 pm
No disrespect to Gerry... but if his dream school was Auburn, I suspect he may no longer have a commitable  offer after they received the QB commitment referenced a few pages back.

MSU got one, too. It appears a lot of guys are committing early... securing their spots.

With around 20 available spots, the Hogs might afford to be selective. Puts schollies in demand.
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: greenie on May 24, 2017, 06:52:45 pm
Is Gerry Bohanon that much better than Connor Noland?

Human nature...here's the opinion matrix for all possible situations:
Noland-committed, Bohanon-not committed     = Bohanon considered superior
Noland-not committed, Bohanon-committed     = Noland considered superior
Noland-not committed, Bohanon-not commited = panic, we just can't land Arkansas talent
Noland- committed, Bohanon-committed          = complain, we're already deep at QB, should've used that scholly for OL or DL
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: Bubba's Bruisers on May 24, 2017, 07:25:03 pm
No disrespect to Gerry... but if his dream school was Auburn, I suspect he may no longer have a commitable  offer after they received the QB commitment referenced a few pages back.

MSU got one, too. It appears a lot of guys are committing early... securing their spots.

With around 20 available spots, the Hogs might afford to be selective. Puts schollies in demand.

I suspect Gerry is not a recruit we'd slow play...if that's what you're suggesting.  Apparently too much up side, and at positions other than QB. 


Human nature...here's the opinion matrix for all possible situations:
Noland-committed, Bohanon-not committed     = Bohanon considered superior
Noland-not committed, Bohanon-committed     = Noland considered superior
Noland-not committed, Bohanon-not commited = panic, we just can't land Arkansas talent
Noland- committed, Bohanon-committed          = complain, we're already deep at QB, should've used that scholly for OL or DL

Pretty much. 
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: sickboy on May 24, 2017, 08:27:24 pm
Human nature...here's the opinion matrix for all possible situations:
Noland-committed, Bohanon-not committed     = Bohanon considered superior
Noland-not committed, Bohanon-committed     = Noland considered superior
Noland-not committed, Bohanon-not commited = panic, we just can't land Arkansas talent
Noland- committed, Bohanon-committed          = complain, we're already deep at QB, should've used that scholly for OL or DL


That is correct.
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: jbcarol on May 25, 2017, 08:30:35 am
The newest stud to fall in love with Mississippi State is Jalen Mayden, a 4-star from Sachse (Texas) High School who is the No. 12 dual-threat quarterback in the 2018 recruiting class. He committed to Mississippi State over Tennessee, Nebraska, Louisville and Baylor on Tuesday night.

Of the top 21-ranked 2018 quarterback prospects, only two are committed to SEC schools — Mayden and Tennessee pledge Adrian Martinez. Only four of those players are uncommitted, too. (https://www.seccountry.com/mississippi-state/mississippi-state-dan-mullen-recruiting-jalen-mayden)

Quote
State only has two scholarship quarterbacks on its roster — Fitzgerald and Thompson —so Mayden’s pledge helps the numbers situation, as well. By the time Mayden enrolls, Fitzgerald will be a senior and Thompson would be a true sophomore, so the Texas product could redshirt in 2018 and then theoretically take over for Thompson in 2020 if all goes according to plan. That’s in the distant future, though.

The Bulldogs will likely take a second quarterback in this class, but having a 4-star prospect already in the fold is a sure-fire way to help coaches breathe a bit easier.

As of Wednesday, Mississippi State’s class is nine commitments strong — headlined by Mayden and 4-star receiver Malik Heath — and is No. 4 in the SEC...

But that second or third QB may not be the subject of this thread.
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: Youngsta71701 on May 25, 2017, 09:32:36 am
and some of us want both.
Put me in this category. Two different types of quarterbacks. Let's get both of them and let the chips fall where they may. Can't pass up on top notch talent in Arkansas no matter what position they play. Gerry is more than capable of playing other positions if need be.
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: Youngsta71701 on May 25, 2017, 09:36:55 am
Human nature...here's the opinion matrix for all possible situations:
Noland-committed, Bohanon-not committed     = Bohanon considered superior
Noland-not committed, Bohanon-committed     = Noland considered superior
Noland-not committed, Bohanon-not commited = panic, we just can't land Arkansas talent
Noland- committed, Bohanon-committed          = complain, we're already deep at QB, should've used that scholly for OL or DL
That's hogville at it's finest right there...Complain no matter what.
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: Pig in the Pokey on May 25, 2017, 09:49:25 am
If they are even considered to be close to the same level prospects, it would be a HUGE plus for Gerry Bohanon, when you look at the program that Connor plays in and the amount of coaching he gets compared to Bohanon. That is what is so intriguing to me about Bohanon, his upside could be, (COULD BE) extremely high, once he gets into a situation where he is getting one on one coaching and teaching about the finer points of playing QB.

That and the fact that I was a fan of "Hell On Wheels", and every time I see his name, I hear the voice of the crazy swede saying "Mr. Bohanon".
YES!! So much this. especially the last part. the country drawl of their PA announcer saying, "BO-hanon, back to pass..." is perfect, too. Mr Bohanan was a bad man.
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: Pig in the Pokey on May 25, 2017, 09:54:03 am
Put me in this category. Two different types of quarterbacks. Let's get both of them and let the chips fall where they may. Can't pass up on top notch talent in Arkansas no matter what position they play. Gerry is more than capable of playing other positions if need be.
yeah , man. This dude is no Keil Frazier. If he goes elsewhere, it better be Louisville, because I don't want him to "Cam" us for 2-3 seasons down the road. Too good NOT to try because even if he doesn't work out at QB, he'll see the field somewhere.

Also, Connor and the baseball thing is a wee elephant in the room. Not just the draft aspect as I think we'll avoid it being a real factor, but the development factor, too. Last guy who tried was a terrible QB until he concentrated on football and then he was pretty darn good. Can Connor do both and be a SEC Qb? I HOPE SO!! I love the way the kid throws the football. But, we definitely should hedge our bet. And who better to do that with than a high ceiling guy who could play defense if need be?
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: PorkRinds on June 07, 2017, 10:13:41 pm
Hearing he's Houston bound from the twitters.
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: KlubhouseKonnected on June 07, 2017, 10:25:01 pm
Hearing he's Houston bound from the twitters.

That would be kind of a surprise to me
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: Wildhog on June 07, 2017, 10:40:56 pm
Hearing he's Houston bound from the twitters.

EDIT: He has not committed to Houston
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: HogCzar1 on June 07, 2017, 10:41:33 pm
I just saw where he said he did not commit to UH, but just reported an offer from them.

But, I did get a push on my phone earlier that he committed to UH, but I just checked his twitter, and he says he did not commit.
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: HardingHog on June 08, 2017, 02:16:03 am
 https://twitter.com/iam_phenom/status/872632937442881537

I believe it was just poor wording on his part when he tweeted about the offer
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: ricepig on June 08, 2017, 07:20:28 am
EDIT: He has not committed to Houston

Some old people have a hard time understanding twitter, give him a break........
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: Youngsta71701 on June 08, 2017, 07:36:47 am
https://twitter.com/iam_phenom/status/872632937442881537

I believe it was just poor wording on his part when he tweeted about the offer
Lord I hope so. That would definitely be a shocker.
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: Bubba's Bruisers on June 08, 2017, 07:40:51 am
It seems we typically lose 1 in-state blue chipper each year.  I'm betting Bohannon is the one for 2018. 
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: rljjr on June 08, 2017, 07:43:14 am
Some old people have a hard time understanding twitter, give him a break........

Come on, Rice, to old people it's "The Twitter."
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: gmarv on June 08, 2017, 07:50:07 am
Some old people have a hard time understanding twitter, give him a break........
You got that right and i am one of them.
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: jbcarol on June 08, 2017, 08:01:01 am
EDIT: He has not committed to Houston

https://twitter.com/iam_phenom/status/872632791237894144
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: Boss Hog in the Arkansas on June 08, 2017, 09:01:59 am
I would like both as well but I would rather have the guy that is committed and helping us recruit and lead our new recruits to hopefully new heights than a guy that looks to not really even rate his home team. First Auburn was in the lead and now Miss St. It seems that some want to talk up a guy that's not even committed yet forget about the one who's been committed for a while and is actively recruiting for us.

If Bohanon picks us great it gives us scary good depth at QB but if he doesn't we will be just as good with a great leader and QB prospect in Noland waiting in the wings when his time comes.
I think we put too much stock into that sometimes. Step away from the states 2 metro areas (Fayetteville, Little Rock) and the razorbacks presence isn't really that strong. On top of that, a kid from south/ south east Arkansas would actually be closer to an ole miss or LA Tech than the U of A. Its one of the disadvantages of having your flagship in a  far corner of the state.
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: Hogberry Snortcake on June 08, 2017, 09:11:59 am
https://twitter.com/iam_phenom/status/872632791237894144

If it has to be somebody else, I'd take Houston.  Stay out of our conference. 
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: rljjr on June 08, 2017, 09:55:26 am
What's interesting is a MSU beat writer just switched his crystal ball from MSU to "Foggy" ... but he's the only one. There are 10 others (including Otis) who still have MSU. Granted most of them don't switch in a timely manner, and their guesses are just as good as anyone else's really, but still, it's interesting b/c it came from an MSU guy.
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: WooPig90 on June 08, 2017, 10:38:39 am
I think Noland ends up the baseball route so Gerry is must get then
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: nwahogfan1 on June 08, 2017, 11:06:07 am
Without me going thru all 12 pages on here can some tell me what offensive system does Bohanon want to play in?  Spread? Pro? Combination?  Has he said?
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: Pig in the Pokey on June 08, 2017, 07:27:36 pm
If it has to be somebody else, I'd take Houston.  Stay out of our conference.
true that. we could even cheer for him that way.
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: bigalphahawg on June 09, 2017, 07:07:01 am
If they are even considered to be close to the same level prospects, it would be a HUGE plus for Gerry Bohanon, when you look at the program that Connor plays in and the amount of coaching he gets compared to Bohanon. That is what is so intriguing to me about Bohanon, his upside could be, (COULD BE) extremely high, once he gets into a situation where he is getting one on one coaching and teaching about the finer points of playing QB.

That and the fact that I was a fan of "Hell On Wheels", and every time I see his name, I hear the voice of the crazy swede saying "Mr. Bohanon".
Excellent
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: Paul on June 09, 2017, 12:35:50 pm
I think we put too much stock into that sometimes. Step away from the states 2 metro areas (Fayetteville, Little Rock) and the razorbacks presence isn't really that strong. On top of that, a kid from south/ south east Arkansas would actually be closer to an ole miss or LA Tech than the U of A. Its one of the disadvantages of having your flagship in a  far corner of the state.
  thought he was from Earle
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: oldfart on June 09, 2017, 02:00:03 pm
I think we put too much stock into that sometimes. Step away from the states 2 metro areas (Fayetteville, Little Rock) and the razorbacks presence isn't really that strong. On top of that, a kid from south/ south east Arkansas would actually be closer to an ole miss or LA Tech than the U of A. Its one of the disadvantages of having your flagship in a  far corner of the state.

thats true but i dont think we are gonna change that... happens in a lot of places... take knoxville for example....
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: jbcarol on June 27, 2017, 11:20:15 am
https://twitter.com/ArRecruitingGuy/status/879731172330352640
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: TX HOG on June 27, 2017, 01:51:29 pm
That has to be a good thing
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: greenie on June 27, 2017, 02:05:50 pm
I know it's early, but lots of folks crystal-balling him to Baylor in the last few days.  Maybe he visited there?
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: tophawg19 on June 27, 2017, 02:25:48 pm
I think we put too much stock into that sometimes. Step away from the states 2 metro areas (Fayetteville, Little Rock) and the razorbacks presence isn't really that strong. On top of that, a kid from south/ south east Arkansas would actually be closer to an ole miss or LA Tech than the U of A. Its one of the disadvantages of having your flagship in a  far corner of the state.
the hogs still own South Arkansas by a huge margin . LSU has a scattering of fans as does Bama . in the Southeast there are a few OLE miss maybe but they are a small group at best
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: greenie on June 27, 2017, 03:02:21 pm
the hogs still own South Arkansas by a huge margin . LSU has a scattering of fans as does Bama . in the Southeast there are a few OLE miss maybe but they are a small group at best

Agreed. I grew up in SEArk.  I remember a few Ole Miss or MSU fans, and none for LaTech, LSU, Bama, or anyone else.  Hogs fans dominated.  This was my experience, FWIW. 
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: Wildhog on June 27, 2017, 03:12:00 pm
I know quite a few LSU fans from El Do.
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: rljjr on June 27, 2017, 04:57:59 pm
Lots of smoke for Baylor.
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: gchamblee on June 27, 2017, 05:05:33 pm
I don't have to downgrade another to prove a point. Crockett's numbers speak for themselves. We whiffed. As for Greenlaw, we pay a staff well over 6 Mil dollars a year to not need a different set of eyes to recognize talent. They aren't very good at it. Period

(http://www.desicomments.com/wp-content/uploads/LOL-With-Emoji.jpg)
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: Dominicanhog on June 27, 2017, 05:07:15 pm
Agreed. I grew up in SEArk.  I remember a few Ole Miss or MSU fans, and none for LaTech, LSU, Bama, or anyone else.  Hogs fans dominated.  This was my experience, FWIW.

same here ....and a couple Tennessee and few Delta State fans from my area..
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: PorkRinds on June 28, 2017, 09:09:34 am
Lots of smoke for Baylor.

That's the smoldering ashes of their program being stirred up by the pending NCAA investigstion.
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: Wildhog on June 28, 2017, 09:30:09 am
Better Baylor than an SEC school...
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: sickboy on June 28, 2017, 11:01:21 am
That's the smoldering ashes of their program being stirred up by the pending NCAA investigstion.

Baylor might not be a football program by the time he hits any campus.
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: HardingHog on July 15, 2017, 10:46:54 pm
https://twitter.com/gerry_bohanon/status/886376861613338624

Bohannon will be in Oxford tomorrow

https://twitter.com/cnoland_13/status/886393556201381888

This kid is great. We need to hire him as the head of recruiting after his playing days are over
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: Boss Hog in the Arkansas on July 15, 2017, 10:56:19 pm
I know quite a few LSU fans from El Do.
I was just about to say this. I grew up there, and the LSU presence is supringly strong. A few years ago there was a burger king billboard up in el dorado for some type of LSU themed burger. I couldnt believe my eyes
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: presidenthog on July 15, 2017, 11:55:30 pm
I was just about to say this. I grew up there, and the LSU presence is supringly strong. A few years ago there was a burger king billboard up in el dorado for some type of LSU themed burger. I couldnt believe my eyes

During the 2013 season my brother ran a sonic and had the Brandon Allen burger. Pick 6 toppings and pay dearly.

I would have tried the lsu themed burger. I bet les was the coach, and grass was a topping.
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: arkhomer on July 21, 2017, 09:23:51 am
https://twitter.com/gerry_bohanon/status/886376861613338624

Bohannon will be in Oxford tomorrow

https://twitter.com/cnoland_13/status/886393556201381888

This kid is great. We need to hire him as the head of recruiting after his playing days are over


Wonder how that Ole Miss visit went?
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: Blythevillehogwild on July 21, 2017, 04:18:02 pm
I wonder if any of you guys are actually from Arkansas how in the world can you say Earle is in South Arkansas it's just outside of Memphis TN. Sorry but I'm getting upset with some of you guys on here definitely by me being from Northeast Arkansas that's upsetting to us up here to be honest with you
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: PorkRinds on July 21, 2017, 04:50:11 pm
I wonder if any of you guys are actually from Arkansas how in the world can you say Earle is in South Arkansas it's just outside of Memphis TN. Sorry but I'm getting upset with some of you guys on here definitely by me being from Northeast Arkansas that's upsetting to us up here to be honest with you

No one cares what is upsetting you.
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: Arctic Hog on July 21, 2017, 04:51:41 pm
I wonder if any of you guys are actually from Arkansas how in the world can you say Earle is in South Arkansas it's just outside of Memphis TN. Sorry but I'm getting upset with some of you guys on here definitely by me being from Northeast Arkansas that's upsetting to us up here to be honest with you

Well, ain't this place a geographical oddity.   ;D

I get the feeling that folks west of the I-30/Highway 167/Highway 67 line consider anything over by the Mississippi River to be "South Arkansas".  I grew up in Bryant and Hot Springs.  While Hot Springs is south of a horizontal line through Little Rock, it never felt like South Arkansas.  But ask me about a town over by Memphis, and yeah, that was South Arkansas.  I know, it doesn't make sense.
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: jbcarol on July 27, 2017, 03:56:11 pm
https://twitter.com/Michael_Carvell/status/890664706590908416
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: AP85 on July 27, 2017, 04:34:46 pm
No one cares what is upsetting you.

Yet you'll be the first one crying when this kid leaves Arkansas.
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: AP85 on July 27, 2017, 04:38:20 pm
Well, ain't this place a geographical oddity.   ;D

I get the feeling that folks west of the I-30/Highway 167/Highway 67 line consider anything over by the Mississippi River to be "South Arkansas".  I grew up in Bryant and Hot Springs.  While Hot Springs is south of a horizontal line through Little Rock, it never felt like South Arkansas.  But ask me about a town over by Memphis, and yeah, that was South Arkansas.  I know, it doesn't make sense.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/South_Arkansas

Everything else North is pretty much Yankee world.  ;D
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: ricepig on July 27, 2017, 05:14:56 pm
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/South_Arkansas

Everything else North is pretty much Yankee world.  ;D

Good to know you're now a Yankee like most of us.........
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: Athog on July 27, 2017, 05:54:28 pm
the hogs still own South Arkansas by a huge margin . LSU has a scattering of fans as does Bama . in the Southeast there are a few OLE miss maybe but they are a small group at best

Grew up in south Ar and it is strong Hog country by a wide margin!!
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: PorkRinds on July 27, 2017, 08:16:18 pm
Yet you'll be the first one crying when this kid leaves Arkansas.

Nah. I don't expect him to come here ultimately.
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: Wildhog on July 28, 2017, 11:56:48 am
Yet you'll be the first one crying when this kid leaves Arkansas.

I'd be shocked if he ended up at Arkansas.
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: Deep Shoat on July 28, 2017, 12:57:59 pm
I'd be shocked if he ended up at Arkansas.
If he does, it will be as a LB.  The qb option is no longer available.
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: blu on July 28, 2017, 01:00:58 pm
Right....
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: The Hawg Marshal on August 28, 2017, 09:03:27 pm
So we made his top 4, along with Ole Miss , Baylor,and Louisville and LSU kind of in the mix. I'm glad we are on the list, but I can't understand how any kid could consider Ole Miss and Baylor right now.
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: The_Boot_stops_here on August 29, 2017, 08:23:20 am
If he does, it will be as a LB.  The qb option is no longer available.

why?
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: oldfart on August 29, 2017, 08:48:20 am
for those who say we already have a QB commitment im still concerned about connor noland and MLB. if he is as good as indicated that bonus money can be hard to turn down
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: Deep Shoat on August 29, 2017, 09:38:01 am
why?
Because he is raw, at best, as a QB.  He's a stud athlete who could help us far more at other positions.  But he isn't really a QB.  Our numbers are too tight to waste a spot on a kid that will just have to be moved after wasting his red shirt and frosh seasons proving to him that he won't play QB at a high level in the SEC.

As to why he's considering Baylor and Ole Miss, it's because they are the only teams willing to even think about playing him at QB. 
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: Deep Shoat on August 29, 2017, 09:39:46 am
for those who say we already have a QB commitment im still concerned about connor noland and MLB. if he is as good as indicated that bonus money can be hard to turn down
Noland isn't a high enough prospect to get the kind of money it would take to get him away from Fayetteville.  He's made abundantly clear to MLB what kind of pay day is required.  It has to be generational life change money.
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: Deep Shoat on August 29, 2017, 09:48:28 am
http://247sports.com/Video/2017-Elite-11-Finals-Gerry-Bohanon-in-Action-7421821?View=Full

This is him at the Elite 11 finals (man, have they dropped off).  Look st how long his release is and how inaccurate he is.  This is no pressure, no pads on the practice field.  And yet, he almost never hits a receiver in stride.

Now go watch Noland.  You'll quickly understand why no one is interested in Gerry, who is absolutely a star athletic talent, as a QB.
Title: Bs do not translate well tot he NFL),
Post by: redleg on August 29, 2017, 10:42:05 am
I have read somewhere that Bielema wants Bohanon to play OLB, specifically, to take over for Ramsey after he graduates. I think that would be Bohanon's best option for an extended successful career after college.

As for his college considerations, Arkansas makes sense, & playing dual-threat QB for spread teams at Louisville and Baylor makes sense (although 9 out of 10 dual-threat and spread QBs do not translate well to the NFL), but considering Ole Miss is a huge head-scratcher considering all of the trouble they have been in with the NCAA and the probability that they will be hit with strict sanctions very soon. LSU is another possible destination I suppose, but only if he is willing to be despised within his home state (ala Michael Dyer, Keihl Frazier, etc.), but I am not sure many high school athletes takes things like that into consideration.

My best guess? I see Bohanon buying the hype that he could be highly successful as a QB (maybe even put up huge numbers and win the Heisman), and signing with Baylor or Louisville. Too bad.  :-[
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: HoneyNuttPetrinoos on August 29, 2017, 10:47:05 am
Gerry is not a drop back passer..  He is better at throwing on the run and scrambling.  Our line usually don't allow our qb's to just stand in the pocket all day anyways.  I'm not gonna base that video on much.  And i didn't get to watch it b/c it brought up ad after ad. 
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: redleg on August 29, 2017, 10:59:47 am
I disagree. Your statement is based on 2016 and the O-Line giving up 35 sacks. But the fact is, last season was an aberration. Typically, a Bret Bielema offensive line is very good at pass protection, just look at the time Brandon Allen had to throw the football in 2014 and 2015 and how few sacks occurred in those two seasons, or any of his QBs at Wisconsin.
Gerry will be a very good spread or spread-option college QB. But like I said, 9 out of 10 spread QBs do not do well in the League. However, he'd be a very good OLB, and he would have a much better chance at a longer and more successful pro career at that position, if it was in the cards for him to make it to the NFL.
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: The_Boot_stops_here on August 29, 2017, 11:11:11 am
Because he is raw, at best, as a QB.  He's a stud athlete who could help us far more at other positions.  But he isn't really a QB.  Our numbers are too tight to waste a spot on a kid that will just have to be moved after wasting his red shirt and frosh seasons proving to him that he won't play QB at a high level in the SEC.

As to why he's considering Baylor and Ole Miss, it's because they are the only teams willing to even think about playing him at QB. 

I don't doubt your assessment.  I am well aware of Bohanon's perceived strenghts and weaknesses.  What I'm asking is why is QB off the table?  Supposedly, at one point, the staff made it clear to Bohanon that he would get his shot at QB if he comes to AR.  What has changed since then?  They're still recruiting him, correct?  Having Nolan didn't seem to change any of that before so, does it now?  I assume that his "shot" at QB is still on the table. 
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: Virgil on August 29, 2017, 12:27:35 pm
I don't doubt your assessment.  I am well aware of Bohanon's perceived strenghts and weaknesses.  What I'm asking is why is QB off the table?  Supposedly, at one point, the staff made it clear to Bohanon that he would get his shot at QB if he comes to AR.  What has changed since then?  They're still recruiting him, correct?  Having Nolan didn't seem to change any of that before so, does it now?  I assume that his "shot" at QB is still on the table. 

It hasn't changed.  This guy is just being a know it all. 
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: Deep Shoat on August 29, 2017, 01:21:38 pm
I don't doubt your assessment.  I am well aware of Bohanon's perceived strenghts and weaknesses.  What I'm asking is why is QB off the table?  Supposedly, at one point, the staff made it clear to Bohanon that he would get his shot at QB if he comes to AR.  What has changed since then?  They're still recruiting him, correct?  Having Nolan didn't seem to change any of that before so, does it now?  I assume that his "shot" at QB is still on the table.
He had the chance to commit THEN.  Now, all but two, maybe three slots are filled.  They are earmarked for best available at OL/DL and maybe LB.  QB isn't one of those slots.

Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: Deep Shoat on August 29, 2017, 01:22:54 pm
It hasn't changed.  This guy is just being a know it all.
Yeah brother, it changed.  I'm not a know it all, but I am a "know this".

The only way Bohannon ends up at Arkansas as a QB in the 2018 class is as a walk on.
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: redleg on August 29, 2017, 02:15:18 pm
That's what I was being told too. Bielema wants Bohanon bad, but as an OLB!
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: Potosihog on September 02, 2017, 10:48:08 pm
He might want to rethink that Baylor thing
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: ADavisTheGOAT on September 02, 2017, 10:51:42 pm
Gerry should just ask Devin White how switching to defense works out.
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: ricepig on September 03, 2017, 07:38:36 am
Lunney and Bielema watch Earle and HWH on Friday night.
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: OneTuskOverTheLine™ on September 03, 2017, 10:53:54 am
for those who say we already have a QB commitment im still concerned about connor noland and MLB. if he is as good as indicated that bonus money can be hard to turn down

LOL.!!! I thought by MLB you meant Middle Linebacker... It made much more sense once I figured out it was Major League Baseball...
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: greenie on September 03, 2017, 12:34:11 pm
He might want to rethink that Baylor thing

That loss to Liberty will be very hard to overcome this season for Baylor.  If he insists on playing QB, Louisville may be his best option.  I'm holding out hope that he sees the light, as HogFan991 eluded to with Devin White, and consider what coaches are telling him about his best chance to see the field.
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: Bubba's Bruisers on September 03, 2017, 02:03:08 pm
That loss to Liberty will be very hard to overcome this season for Baylor.  If he insists on playing QB, Louisville may be his best option.  I'm holding out hope that he sees the light, as HogFan991 eluded to with Devin White, and consider what coaches are telling him about his best chance to see the field.

But didn't we shift gears and offer him as a QB?
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: Deep Shoat on September 03, 2017, 02:14:04 pm
But didn't we shift gears and offer him as a QB?
The QB offer was rescinded when we got our 11th and 12th commits.

He's an OLB at Arkansas or he's not at Arkansas.  No spots left for anything but an OL/DL/OLB/TE/Foucha.  The first two of those will close the class, barring something significant changing.
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: Bubba's Bruisers on September 03, 2017, 02:37:18 pm
The QB offer was rescinded when we got our 11th and 12th commits.

He's an OLB at Arkansas or he's not at Arkansas.  No spots left for anything but an OL/DL/OLB/TE/Foucha.  The first two of those will close the class, barring something significant changing.

Then I expect him not at Arkansas.
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: greenie on September 03, 2017, 03:08:10 pm
Will be interesting to see what he does.  Of those schools that appear to be interested, Baylor would be a major gamble on his part; Ole Miss will probably do anything at this point to land a recruit of his stature (including offer him at QB); Louisville already has a dual-threat QB verbal, but if CBP tells him he'll have a shot at QB, this might lure him; MS State also already has a dual-threat QB verbal, and Mullin is absolutely proven when it comes to developing/utilizing a running QB, but I'm not sure of their interested anymore; and we all know what Arkansas is offering.  I guess he could end up going to a non-P5 like A-State or Memphis...or how about Central Florida?  Like I said, this will be interesting to watch.
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: Bubba's Bruisers on September 03, 2017, 03:12:35 pm
Will be interesting to see what he does.  Of those schools that appear to be interested, Baylor would be a major gamble on his part; Ole Miss will probably do anything at this point to land a recruit of his stature (including offer him at QB); Louisville already has a dual-threat QB verbal, but if CBP tells him he'll have a shot at QB, this might lure him; MS State also already has a dual-threat QB verbal, and Mullin is absolutely proven when it comes to developing/utilizing a running QB, but I'm not sure of their interested anymore; and we all know what Arkansas is offering.  I guess he could end up going to a non-P5 like A-State or Memphis...or how about Central Florida?  Like I said, this will be interesting to watch.

I expect a few D-1 schools will keep a QB scholie open for him if he wants it.  And if he's truly dead set on being a QB, then he'll certainly take one of them.  If I was him and dead set on QB, then I'd go with Mullins.
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: Deep Shoat on September 03, 2017, 03:14:49 pm
I expect a few D-1 schools will keep a QB scholie open for him if he wants it.  And if he's truly dead set on being a QB, then he'll certainly take one of them.  If I was him and dead set on QB, then I'd go with Mullins.
State doesn't really want him anymore.  It's Ole Miss and Baylor for Power 5 QB offers at the moment.

He may get more as the season goes along.
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: HossHog on September 04, 2017, 01:00:57 am
We could use him at OLB and as a QB in goal line packages. Not sure if that would peak his interest or not though.
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: blu on September 04, 2017, 01:52:32 am
The QB offer was rescinded when we got our 11th and 12th commits.

He's an OLB at Arkansas or he's not at Arkansas.  No spots left for anything but an OL/DL/OLB/TE/Foucha.  The first two of those will close the class, barring something significant changing.

And you know this how?
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: Big_Red_1 on September 04, 2017, 09:02:45 am
Just another great recruit from Arkansas.  This is my first post in some time.  No response expected.
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: oldfart on September 04, 2017, 10:41:03 am
I dont intend to imply that i know more than the coaching staff, or some of the more astute posters on here, but it seems to me that an athlete like him comes along once in a generation.  you find a place to put him.  offer him at QB, let him try it.  if it doesnt work you find a place for him somewhere.  dont miss out on him.
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: greenie on September 04, 2017, 11:50:06 am
I dont intend to imply that i know more than the coaching staff, or some of the more astute posters on here, but it seems to me that an athlete like him comes along once in a generation.  you find a place to put him.  offer him at QB, let him try it.  if it doesnt work you find a place for him somewhere.  dont miss out on him.

This is just my observation of the situation, but it looks like it's not simply a QB-offer he's looking for from us.  I believe that we've already done that (albeit our offer at QB appears to have changed to an Athlete/OLB offer recently) and he balked at committing.  I think that he understands that Bielema/Enos have never emphasized mobility in a QB at Arkansas, and that likely is working against us.  Truth is, he's still looking around, weighing those programs that are offering a shot a QB (and who have recently featured a running QB).  He needs to have an outstanding senior year to get some new options.  Otherwise, he either goes to a program at risk (Baylor), a dumpster fire (Ole Miss), a lesser program (non-P5), or concedes his dream of being a QB.  If he chooses the last option, I imagine that there will be several P-5 programs willing to offer...if he doesn't wait too long.

Outside of that, I don't think Bielema will spend one of this year's scholarships on a guy who insists on being a QB, but who they think (Bielema/Enos) doesn't have a realistic chance at making the 2-deep at that position.  The scholarships available this year are too few.  I'm sure they've told him all of this up front. 

Again, all my unsubstantiated opinion.
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: ricepig on September 04, 2017, 12:31:38 pm
I dont intend to imply that i know more than the coaching staff, or some of the more astute posters on here, but it seems to me that an athlete like him comes along once in a generation.  you find a place to put him.  offer him at QB, let him try it.  if it doesnt work you find a place for him somewhere.  dont miss out on him.

You think he is a once in a generation athlete? He's talented, but I'd say we've had others in your 80 years that would fit that better.
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: jackflash on September 04, 2017, 02:02:23 pm
Better to tell him up front what we are recruiting him for I think
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: Bubba's Bruisers on September 04, 2017, 06:05:01 pm
Better to tell him up front what we are recruiting him for I think

I see legitimacy in both approaches, but I do tend to lean more to just being straight up with the kid if you're confident he's not going to play the position he wants.
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: oldfart on September 04, 2017, 08:16:56 pm
You think he is a once in a generation athlete? He's talented, but I'd say we've had others in your 80 years that would fit that better.
.

you are correct ricepig i should have said once in a decade :-) for my 80 (nearly) its probably jim brown
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: bennyl08 on September 04, 2017, 08:48:29 pm
I dont intend to imply that i know more than the coaching staff, or some of the more astute posters on here, but it seems to me that an athlete like him comes along once in a generation.  you find a place to put him.  offer him at QB, let him try it.  if it doesnt work you find a place for him somewhere.  dont miss out on him.

I could name at least 10 players on our roster right now who are at least as athletic as Bohanon. Possibly more.
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: Carl Lazlo on September 04, 2017, 10:02:45 pm
He's got good size for a high school senior. 6'3 212.  Get him up to 230-235 and he could be formidable in the sec.
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: AugustaHog on September 05, 2017, 06:52:58 am
This is a difficult position to be in for a staff.  If you offer the kid with the promise to start at QB, you have to give him a fair shake at that spot.  Even then, ego may not allow for him to accept that others are truly better and willingly switch.  You avoid all that by offering as an athlete/OLB.  If you really think he has a shot at QB, then by all means offer the kid.  If not, I could see us losing him in a couple years to a transfer, which is a worst-case scenario given the small class size.  Of course, if he's the real deal and shows out at QB, this is all a moot point anyways.
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: blu on September 05, 2017, 07:02:25 am
So much uninformed fail in this thread - smh.
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: gmarv on September 05, 2017, 08:34:36 am
Am I the only one who thinks of Duwop and how he wanted to only play QB. It seems similar. I don,t think our coaches want that to happen again especially with a Arkansas kid.
This is a difficult position to be in for a staff.  If you offer the kid with the promise to start at QB, you have to give him a fair shake at that spot.  Even then, ego may not allow for him to accept that others are truly better and willingly switch.  You avoid all that by offering as an athlete/OLB.  If you really think he has a shot at QB, then by all means offer the kid.  If not, I could see us losing him in a couple years to a transfer, which is a worst-case scenario given the small class size.  Of course, if he's the real deal and shows out at QB, this is all a moot point anyways.
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: SA Hog Fan on September 05, 2017, 11:07:24 am
So much uninformed fail in this thread - smh.

Enlighten us
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: Pudgepork on September 05, 2017, 01:46:14 pm
So much uninformed fail in this thread - smh.

Yes, enlighten us.  And Bohanons situation is very similar to Duwop.  Very good athlete more suited physically for other positions.  Yet unwilling to switch.   This show a possible star(ego)wannabe.    As a team, they might be better off without him if he isn't a team player.   No matter how gifted, sulking players do harm.
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: onebadrubi on September 05, 2017, 02:42:28 pm
Yes, enlighten us.  And Bohanons situation is very similar to Duwop.  Very good athlete more suited physically for other positions.  Yet unwilling to switch.   This show a possible star(ego)wannabe.    As a team, they might be better off without him if he isn't a team player.   No matter how gifted, sulking players do harm.

Don't blame the kids ego, yet.  I mean he has had people come calling his home phone and knocking on his door of the likes of Gus Malzahn who is nationally beloved for some reason as a Offesnive guru and then most recently Dan Mullen who put Dak Prescott in the NFL and is dominating in his first year. 

The kid has guys like that phoning his home phone and knocking on his home in Earle, Ar?  He is going to be a little taken back by that and anyone would be. 
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: Pudgepork on September 05, 2017, 10:02:00 pm
Agree Rubi and it has to be overwhelming to be the center of all that attention. Using Duwop as a very recent and very similar situation, I just don't think we should react much if he goes elsewhere.  If his future at ark is olb, they'd probably be better off to sign someone with talent and experience at that position
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: Paul on September 06, 2017, 12:47:28 pm
Will be interesting to see what he does.  Of those schools that appear to be interested, Baylor would be a major gamble on his part; Ole Miss will probably do anything at this point to land a recruit of his stature (including offer him at QB); Louisville already has a dual-threat QB verbal, but if CBP tells him he'll have a shot at QB, this might lure him; MS State also already has a dual-threat QB verbal, and Mullin is absolutely proven when it comes to developing/utilizing a running QB, but I'm not sure of their interested anymore; and we all know what Arkansas is offering.  I guess he could end up going to a non-P5 like A-State or Memphis...or how about Central Florida?  Like I said, this will be interesting to watch.
Umm not any longer they won't
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: RazorPiggie on September 06, 2017, 02:22:04 pm
Don't blame the kids ego, yet.  I mean he has had people come calling his home phone and knocking on his door of the likes of Gus Malzahn who is nationally beloved for some reason as a Offesnive guru and then most recently Dan Mullen who put Dak Prescott in the NFL and is dominating in his first year. 

The kid has guys like that phoning his home phone and knocking on his home in Earle, Ar?  He is going to be a little taken back by that and anyone would be. 

Who has a home phone these days???
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: greenie on September 06, 2017, 05:57:44 pm
Umm not any longer they won't

They probably won't do anything illegal, but I bet they won't hesitate to tell him he'd have a shot at playing QB...whether they believed he had the skills for that position or not.
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: onebadrubi on September 07, 2017, 01:10:07 pm
Who has a home phone these days???

haha true!  Touche
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: woodrow hog call on September 07, 2017, 05:07:37 pm
The bottom line is; it's his life, his dream, his future, and if he is dead set on being the next Dak Prescott, he needs to go to a school that will give him the opportunity to play QB.

Nobody has the right to tell someone they shouldn't follow their gut, and or dream, because they aren't going to play QB at the next level. If he wants to be an NFL QB, I hope he makes it, preferably as a hog, but if that isn't possible so be it, I will still be hoping he makes it.
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: Pig Power on September 07, 2017, 05:28:53 pm
The bottom line is; it's his life, his dream, his future, and if he is dead set on being the next Dak Prescott, he needs to go to a school that will give him the opportunity to play QB.

Nobody has the right to tell someone they shouldn't follow their gut, and or dream, because they aren't going to play QB at the next level. If he wants to be an NFL QB, I hope he makes it, preferably as a hog, but if that isn't possible so be it, I will still be hoping he makes it.
Completely agree Woodrow.... Chase the dream..
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: AugustaHog on September 08, 2017, 03:11:05 pm
Yes, enlighten us.  And Bohanons situation is very similar to Duwop.  Very good athlete more suited physically for other positions.  Yet unwilling to switch.   This show a possible star(ego)wannabe.    As a team, they might be better off without him if he isn't a team player.   No matter how gifted, sulking players do harm.
My comments about Gerry weren't indicating that I think he has an ego.  If he wants to be a QB and truly believes in his ability to be a QB then he should go to a school offering that as his primary option.  He has size, speed, talent to play at other positions on the next level as well.  The small class size is going to dictate that we be very selective with the schollies.  I think honesty is the best in this case.  If you don't envision him being a star at QB, be real with him and advise him of what you think is best.  If it's not what he wants to hear, then so be it.  If you aren't sure how he'll develop at QB, say as much and promise him a legit chance with the understanding that if he can't beat out the other dudes on the depth chart, OLB or other positions would be a possibility. 
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: Bacon_Bitz on September 11, 2017, 10:33:16 am
Bring him in next year and let him compete for the starting QB job please.
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: Rock City Razorback on September 11, 2017, 01:55:02 pm
Yes, enlighten us.  And Bohanons situation is very similar to Duwop.  Very good athlete more suited physically for other positions.  Yet unwilling to switch.   This show a possible star(ego)wannabe.    As a team, they might be better off without him if he isn't a team player.   No matter how gifted, sulking players do harm.

But, he did switch positions?! Twice? So what are you getting at?
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: rljjr on September 12, 2017, 12:25:57 pm
The writing is on the wall. We need a real DT QB. I say let him try. We have zero to lose.
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: arkansas proud77 on September 14, 2017, 11:11:41 am
Having a mobile qb is a must, because of our o-line struggles.  We could use him this week if he was here.  When protection breaks down, that kid is amazing.   Forget baylor gerry.   
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: The_Iceman on September 14, 2017, 11:53:06 am
The writing is on the wall. We need a real DT QB. I say let him try. We have zero to lose.

No we don't. We need the two fat lards up there that are supposed to be O-line gurus to get off their buts and go recruits some studs and develop them.
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: PorkRinds on September 14, 2017, 12:11:34 pm
No we don't. We need the two fat lards up there that are supposed to be O-line gurus to get off their buts and go recruits some studs and develop them.

Your point, which is a good one, gets lost when you act like a prick.
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: 311Hog on September 14, 2017, 01:31:43 pm
longest recruit  thread ever?

is Gerry this year's Ty Storey?

Small school kid that is a really good QB but maybe just not quiet SEC West starting QB level ( i know Storey's story isn't over yet)
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: Richard Davenport on September 14, 2017, 02:45:27 pm
FWIW, don't know if it's in the thread or not but he'll visit Louisville on Sat.
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: Dominicanhog on September 14, 2017, 03:00:45 pm
FWIW, don't know if it's in the thread or not but he'll visit Louisville on Sat.

and I think a good chance he goes there as well...
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: PorkRinds on September 14, 2017, 04:41:41 pm
He'd be a better fit there than he would here if he wants to play QB.
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: HardingHog on September 14, 2017, 06:02:27 pm
FWIW, don't know if it's in the thread or not but he'll visit Louisville on Sat.

https://twitter.com/gerry_bohanon/status/908464020138725376
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: Richard Davenport on September 14, 2017, 06:17:20 pm
https://twitter.com/gerry_bohanon/status/908464020138725376

Didn't see. He told me after his game on Friday.
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: PorkRinds on September 14, 2017, 07:24:37 pm
When Lamar Jackson tells this kid that BP will make him the next Lamar Jackson he is going to commit.
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: King Kong on September 14, 2017, 08:28:54 pm
When Lamar Jackson tells this kid that BP will make him the next Lamar Jackson he is going to commit.

Or when Lamar tells him CBP is an A-hole he may go somewhere else. That is what typically happened here for big recruits and that same reason almost lead to Greg Child's transferring at one point
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: PorkRinds on September 14, 2017, 08:56:25 pm
Or when Lamar tells him CBP is an A-hole he may go somewhere else. That is what typically happened here for big recruits and that same reason almost lead to Greg Child's transferring at one point

Bohannon is only a big recruit here.  I'm gonna bet LJ likes Bobby just fine. He's gonna help him earn millions.
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: Cavtastic Voyage on September 14, 2017, 11:31:00 pm
this is the kind of BS i expect from our incompetent coaching staff. And we wonder why we miss on recruits. From the very beginning we should have offered this kid as a QB. Maybe he doesn't have the tools now, but who's to say he won't. You get a athlete like this and you won't give him a chance at his preferred position. Or tell him you don't like him as a QB. Tell him you love him at QB. Tell him your gonna give him every opportunity to play QB.  This guy may be the next Dak for mullins, and we didn't want roll the dice on a guy like this. Say he came to Arkansas and when he gets on campus and isn't good enough, then he'll likely agree that maybe if he can't start at Arkansas then his future as a professional isn't at QB. We wouldn't want to waste a spot on a kid that is set on being QB,  but yet we can have 6 T.E. on the team.
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: PorkRinds on September 15, 2017, 10:28:41 am
this is the kind of BS i expect from our incompetent coaching staff. And we wonder why we miss on recruits. From the very beginning we should have offered this kid as a QB. Maybe he doesn't have the tools now, but who's to say he won't. You get a athlete like this and you won't give him a chance at his preferred position. Or tell him you don't like him as a QB. Tell him you love him at QB. Tell him your gonna give him every opportunity to play QB.  This guy may be the next Dak for mullins, and we didn't want roll the dice on a guy like this. Say he came to Arkansas and when he gets on campus and isn't good enough, then he'll likely agree that maybe if he can't start at Arkansas then his future as a professional isn't at QB. We wouldn't want to waste a spot on a kid that is set on being QB,  but yet we can have 6 T.E. on the team.

It's obvious you have no clue what has been done with this kid by the staff.
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: Dominicanhog on September 15, 2017, 03:09:30 pm
When Lamar Jackson tells this kid that BP will make him the next Lamar Jackson he is going to commit.

If I were in his shoe's , I'd sure be listening...
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: PorkRinds on September 15, 2017, 05:49:55 pm
If I were in his shoe's , I'd sure be listening...

It'd be hard not to. Only thing I'd worry about is Petrino being Petrino and getting canned before I could get my start.
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: Piggfoot on September 15, 2017, 06:06:27 pm
I don't see why we don't offer him an opportunity at QB. It's not like we've been a 100% on our selections already. Surely if he can't make it he will realize that.
Austin Allen Redshirt senior, Kelly Redshirt freshman, Storey RS soph, Jack Lindsey RS Fr, ? Legacy, ? walkon, Proctor Carson RS Fr,
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: Dominicanhog on September 15, 2017, 08:53:30 pm
It'd be hard not to. Only thing I'd worry about is Petrino being Petrino and getting canned before I could get my start.

not in Louisville.. unless he got caught with a boosters wife doing it on the table in a restaurant, or hiring escorts for players/recruits. etc.. those are the only things you could get canned for in Louisville... Riding Harley's with a mistress on the back would be no problem.... you don't even have to lie to the AD...
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: PorkRinds on September 15, 2017, 09:17:30 pm
I don't see why we don't offer him an opportunity at QB. It's not like we've been a 100% on our selections already. Surely if he can't make it he will realize that.
Austin Allen Redshirt senior, Kelly Redshirt freshman, Storey RS soph, Jack Lindsey RS Fr, ? Legacy, ? walkon, Proctor Carson RS Fr,

You're leaving out a couple.
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: Bubba's Bruisers on September 15, 2017, 09:53:47 pm
I don't see why we don't offer him an opportunity at QB. It's not like we've been a 100% on our selections already. Surely if he can't make it he will realize that.
Austin Allen Redshirt senior, Kelly Redshirt freshman, Storey RS soph, Jack Lindsey RS Fr, ? Legacy, ? walkon, Proctor Carson RS Fr,

The only reason I can think of is the staff, right or wrong, simply doesn't see him as a QB.  Maybe they don't want to go through the motions.  I'd prefer they did offer him a shot at QB, though, to secure his signature.  If nothing else, it could be a gift to the next staff. 
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: aloha_kid on September 15, 2017, 11:56:06 pm
In other news, last QB we can't let get out of state:

https://n.rivals.com/content/prospects/2011/kiehl-frazier-19935

Who was the coach that let him get away?  How many games did he start?
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: factchecker on September 15, 2017, 11:58:22 pm
In other news, last QB we can't let get out of state:

https://n.rivals.com/content/prospects/2011/kiehl-frazier-19935

Who was the coach that let him get away?  How many games did he start?

Heard he did pretty good at Ouachita Baptist.
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: aloha_kid on September 16, 2017, 12:06:31 am
Heard he did pretty good at Ouachita Baptist.

Stat monster.

https://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/players/kiehl-frazier-1.html
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: clutch on September 21, 2017, 02:25:50 pm
Without me going thru all 12 pages on here can some tell me what offensive system does Bohanon want to play in?  Spread? Pro? Combination?  Has he said?

Earle's a spread team. They mix in some power run concepts as well, but coach Colemans first option is to sling that thing all over the field. They even have pass happy 7th grade and Jr High teams.
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: clutch on September 22, 2017, 09:29:19 am
not in Louisville.. unless he got caught with a boosters wife doing it on the table in a restaurant, or hiring escorts for players/recruits. etc.. those are the only things you could get canned for in Louisville... Riding Harley's with a mistress on the back would be no problem.... you don't even have to lie to the AD...

You can hire escorts for players in Louisville. That won't get you fired, at least not if you are a basketball coach.
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: Pig in the Pokey on September 22, 2017, 01:25:26 pm
with the wren decommit, we REALLY need BO-hanon now.
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: HardingHog on September 23, 2017, 03:41:39 am
According to 247, Bohanon is visiting Baylor this weekend
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: arkansas proud77 on September 24, 2017, 01:59:32 am
Bohanon is from
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: arkansas proud77 on September 24, 2017, 02:03:24 am
earle.   west memphis,  and forest city.   we love ya gerry....Hog fans#####
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: clutch on September 26, 2017, 01:30:41 pm
According to 247, Bohanon is visiting Baylor this weekend

He went to Baylor in July as well. Apparently liked it enough for a second visit.
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: clutch on September 27, 2017, 08:39:49 am
I think he will commit to Baylor pretty soon.
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: BigSexyHog on October 05, 2017, 01:31:02 pm
So what does today's news mean?  We still in the mix or does his 6 schools totally change now
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: NoogaHog on October 05, 2017, 01:46:36 pm
So what does today's news mean?  We still in the mix or does his 6 schools totally change now

I'm sorry, what news?
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: RazorPiggie on October 05, 2017, 01:51:18 pm
I'm sorry, what news?

 no longer has a top six schools list and is completely wide open in his recruitment.
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: NoogaHog on October 05, 2017, 01:55:16 pm
O.I.C.
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: Hardyguy on October 05, 2017, 04:50:29 pm
I seen him play against Salem High School. The level of competition wasn't the highest, but you could tell he was a high level athlete. He looked like a SEC football player.  If I had to describe him at quarterback, I would say that he played like Matt Jones but with an arm. He appeared to have good arm strenght, and his throws looked effortless. He didn't run very much that night, but when he did, he reminded me of Jones.
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: Uberanubis on October 05, 2017, 05:29:36 pm
no longer has a top six schools list and is completely wide open in his recruitment.

it means 4 of the six schools he had on his list were dirty and the other 2 were clean, now since the poop hit the fan in basketball this may happen with more recruits.
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: jbcarol on October 09, 2017, 02:19:55 pm
 Trent Shadid‏ @Shadid13

Arkansas’ top 2018 in-state recruit Gerry Bohanon Jr. exploring all options
(https://pbs.twimg.com/card_img/917394346248372226/VQM7cfua?format=jpg&name=600x314) (https://twitter.com/Shadid13/status/917446139879870464)
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: Pork Ranger on October 09, 2017, 02:31:44 pm
Trent Shadid‏ @Shadid13

Arkansas’ top 2018 in-state recruit Gerry Bohanon Jr. exploring all options
(https://pbs.twimg.com/card_img/917394346248372226/VQM7cfua?format=jpg&name=600x314) (https://twitter.com/Shadid13/status/917446139879870464)

Might as well wait and see who Arkansas hires before making a decision
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: The_Iceman on October 09, 2017, 02:45:34 pm
Might as well wait and see who Arkansas hires before making a decision

He will still have Cole Kelley, Daulton Hyatt, and Connor Noland on the roster ahead of him  (I don't project Ty Storey to stay).
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: Letsroll1200 on October 09, 2017, 05:00:33 pm
Can't miss talent! Fire Coach B and get a coach.
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: Bubba's Bruisers on October 09, 2017, 05:15:35 pm
He will still have Cole Kelley, Daulton Hyatt, and Connor Noland on the roster ahead of him  (I don't project Ty Storey to stay).

How do you know Noland will be ahead of him?  Or Kelley or Hyatt for that matter?
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: Porkchop#1 on October 10, 2017, 06:32:00 am
Can't miss talent! Fire Coach B and get a coach.
Exactly, CBB cannot evaluate for squat.  Maybe should tell Bret this guy is from Atlanta or Dallas or Miami, then we might recruit him.  CBB thinks Arkansas kids should just walk on.
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: PorkRinds on October 10, 2017, 12:01:47 pm
Exactly, CBB cannot evaluate for squat.  Maybe should tell Bret this guy is from Atlanta or Dallas or Miami, then we might recruit him.  CBB thinks Arkansas kids should just walk on.

They’re recruiting him already.
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: Pig in the Pokey on October 13, 2017, 04:14:45 pm
He will still have Cole Kelley, Daulton Hyatt, and Connor Noland on the roster ahead of him  (I don't project Ty Storey to stay).
why would Nolan, a lesser rated prospect, be penciled in ahead of the state's top rated player???
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: Scott7703 on October 13, 2017, 04:35:45 pm
why would Nolan, a lesser rated prospect, be penciled in ahead of the state's top rated player???


Mainly because he's a better quarterback for the system we currently run.
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: Pig in the Pokey on October 13, 2017, 08:07:11 pm

Mainly because he's a better quarterback for the system we currently run.
well, that system is about to change, thank GOD.
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: Scott7703 on October 13, 2017, 09:43:09 pm
well, that system is about to change, thank GOD.


I agree. I've seen them both play. Noland is money in the pocket and can run. Bohanon can run but needs major work in the pocket. Bohanon is the best athlete in the state this year and Noland is the best quarterback.
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: Pig in the Pokey on October 14, 2017, 09:02:12 am

I agree. I've seen them both play. Noland is money in the pocket and can run. Bohanon can run but needs major work in the pocket. Bohanon is the best athlete in the state this year and Noland is the best quarterback.
and we need them both and if Bohannon ends up at OLB, so be it. If he beats out Nolan, so be it; he can go dominate on the diamond. But, we need to let the cream rise to the top and not just pick one.
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: PorkRinds on October 14, 2017, 09:22:55 am
and we need them both and if Bohannon ends up at OLB, so be it. If he beats out Nolan, so be it; he can go dominate on the diamond. But, we need to let the cream rise to the top and not just pick one.

Noland isn’t likely to dominate on the diamond. He’s good but he’s not that good at this point.
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: The_Iceman on October 14, 2017, 10:25:45 am
Noland can throw and run. Bohannon can run better than Noland, but is no where near the passer. I'd always err on the side the passer.
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: Pig in the Pokey on October 14, 2017, 10:57:53 am
Noland can throw and run. Bohannon can run better than Noland, but is no where near the passer. I'd always err on the side the passer.
I wouldn't "err", i'd let them compete for it.
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: ricepig on October 14, 2017, 11:17:45 am
I wouldn't "err", i'd let them compete for it.

Well, he's got an offer, all he has to do is accept it and find out.
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: Bubba's Bruisers on October 14, 2017, 12:07:13 pm
I wouldn't "err", i'd let them compete for it.

Yeah, it’s sort of a no-brained.  I suspect the next coach will offer him at QB.
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: LA Football fan on October 14, 2017, 12:40:24 pm
I agree. I've seen them both play. Noland is money in the pocket and can run. Bohanon can run but needs major work in the pocket. Bohanon is the best athlete in the state this year and Noland is the best quarterback.

Treylon Burks is the best athlete in the state this year and will be again next year.  Justice Hill could be better than Bohannon also.  Bohannon is good but he is not the best athlete.  The Cesar Warren kid from Pulaski Robinson has been putting up big numbers also.   
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: Scott7703 on October 14, 2017, 01:50:17 pm
Treylon Burks is the best athlete in the state this year and will be again next year.  Justice Hill could be better than Bohannon also.  Bohannon is good but he is not the best athlete.  The Cesar Warren kid from Pulaski Robinson has been putting up big numbers also.   


Bohanon is the best senior athlete in the state. Justice Hill (another underclassman) is another good one but Bohanon is better in my opinion
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: Pig in the Pokey on October 14, 2017, 06:20:08 pm

Bohanon is the best senior athlete in the state. Justice Hill (another underclassman) is another good one but Bohanon is better in my opinion
He plays like frickin Cam.
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: #1 STUNNA on October 16, 2017, 11:47:02 am
Treylon Burks is the best athlete in the state this year and will be again next year.  Justice Hill could be better than Bohannon also.  Bohannon is good but he is not the best athlete.  The Cesar Warren kid from Pulaski Robinson has been putting up big numbers also.   

Yep Treylon is on a whole different level than everyone else in the state
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: Hogwild on October 17, 2017, 09:50:01 pm
https://www.seccountry.com/lsu/4-star-qb-gerry-bohanon-expects-big-push-lsu (https://www.seccountry.com/lsu/4-star-qb-gerry-bohanon-expects-big-push-lsu)
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: Rock City Razorback on October 17, 2017, 09:51:39 pm
https://www.seccountry.com/lsu/4-star-qb-gerry-bohanon-expects-big-push-lsu (https://www.seccountry.com/lsu/4-star-qb-gerry-bohanon-expects-big-push-lsu)

100% guaranteed they will move him to defense, just like they lied and did with White
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: hogboarder on October 18, 2017, 02:07:35 pm
Oh for crying out loud. This kid isn't going anywhere and playing defense. He's a QB and if you attempt to recruit him otherwise you won't stand a chance.
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: presidenthog on October 18, 2017, 07:09:29 pm
Oh for crying out loud. This kid isn't going anywhere and playing defense. He's a QB and if you attempt to recruit him otherwise you won't stand a chance.

They did this to Devin white. Told him he can play rb. Moved him to LB. He is a top 3 lb in the sec right now easily.
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: 311Hog on October 20, 2017, 10:43:01 am
Oh for crying out loud. This kid isn't going anywhere and playing defense. He's a QB and if you attempt to recruit him otherwise you won't stand a chance.

what part of they will tell you what you want to hear do you not understand?

Hey yeah you can compete for QB, boom you are signed and on campus what are you going to do?

BTW sometimes the switch is right i mean White is a mean LB.
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: hogboarder on October 21, 2017, 10:35:48 am
We better start doing something that works...
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: hogboarder on October 21, 2017, 10:39:16 am
White is also 6'1"
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: Southerneyes on October 21, 2017, 12:52:34 pm
I disagree. Your statement is based on 2016 and the O-Line giving up 35 sacks. But the fact is, last season was an aberration. Typically, a Bret Bielema offensive line is very good at pass protection, just look at the time Brandon Allen had to throw the football in 2014 and 2015 and how few sacks occurred in those two seasons, or any of his QBs at Wisconsin.
Gerry will be a very good spread or spread-option college QB. But like I said, 9 out of 10 spread QBs do not do well in the League. However, he'd be a very good OLB, and he would have a much better chance at a longer and more successful pro career at that position, if it was in the cards for him to make it to the NFL.

Hey coach redleg if last year was an “aberration “ what do you call this year? Debacle?
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: jbcarol on October 24, 2017, 05:03:50 am
 Jeremy Muck‏ @JeremyMuckADG

Earle QB Gerry Bohanon's numbers through 8 weeks: 69-106, 1745 yards, 19 TDs; 45 carries, 835 yards, 13 TDs #arpreps
 (https://twitter.com/JeremyMuckADG/status/922570684324134912)
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: blu on October 24, 2017, 06:47:05 am
Wow, over 25 yards a completion and over 18 yard per carry. Those are some sick numbers!
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: 311Hog on October 24, 2017, 12:07:31 pm
man i had no idea where Earle was lol  population 2,200 ? a big city i see.
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: PorkRinds on October 24, 2017, 12:16:12 pm
Wow, over 25 yards a completion and over 18 yard per carry. Those are some sick numbers!

It is impressive but he’s the only athlete on the field. We could sure use him though.
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: RacinRazorback on October 24, 2017, 01:14:36 pm
We can't let this kid get away! We will be sorry if this home state kid ain't calling the hogs!! WPS
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: ModestoHOG63 on October 24, 2017, 02:16:31 pm
yea, I had family there at one time.  A great aunt of mine was all giddy because they made a movie there called FAMILY THING starring James Earl Jones and Robert Duvall.  Basically a story about Duvall finding out his daddy had a affair with a black woman.  He finds out he has a black brother (Jones) in Chicago and goes to find out the truth.  Actually pretty decent movie.  My grandfather had a cousin who was the town mayor there at one time.
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: HardingHog on October 24, 2017, 02:57:46 pm
Jeremy Muck‏ @JeremyMuckADG

Earle QB Gerry Bohanon's numbers through 8 weeks: 69-106, 1745 yards, 19 TDs; 45 carries, 835 yards, 13 TDs #arpreps
 (https://twitter.com/JeremyMuckADG/status/922570684324134912)

Those are some impressive stats! Plus, you have to assume that he probably only played in the second half of 2 or 3 of those games
For some context, here's Earle's schedule so far:
Central (West Helena)   L - 22-14
@ Cedar Ridge               W - 46-28
Mountain View               W - 66-0
@ Salem                         W - 46-6
Marked Tree                  W - 61-6
@ Rector                        W - 64-0
Midland                          W - 64-0
@ Cross County           W - 44-20
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: clutch on October 31, 2017, 08:45:31 am
Jeremy Muck‏ @JeremyMuckADG

Earle QB Gerry Bohanon's numbers through 8 weeks: 69-106, 1745 yards, 19 TDs; 45 carries, 835 yards, 13 TDs #arpreps
 (https://twitter.com/JeremyMuckADG/status/922570684324134912)

His completion percentage and passing yards should both be so much higher, but his receivers drop about 50% of the passes. That's not an exaggeration either. He should probably have a good 500+ more yards.
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: OneTuskOverTheLine™ on October 31, 2017, 09:25:55 am
We can't let this kid get away! We will be sorry if this home state kid ain't calling the hogs!! WPS

 After reading the article today it looks as if CBB and Enos are hitting him up harder than before. The look of the offense with Cole Kelley may be giving them all thoughts that he can run the damn thing.
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: factchecker on November 01, 2017, 07:24:01 pm
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DNlcKA2VAAABzOW.jpg:large)

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DNlcKA2UIAA-OBO.jpg:large)
Title: Re: Gerry Bohanon 2018
Post by: hview on November 04, 2017, 09:45:51 pm
We really need this young man wearing a HOG uniform.