What say you Hogville?

[Lanlord]

Do you agree or not?

https://www.saturdaydownsouth.com/sec-football/which-direction-sec-teams-heading/

Arkansas

Trending: Abyss scouting

Why: New coach Chad Morris will have to adapt to what he has been given at Arkansas, since Bret Bielema's recruits will be there a few more seasons. This rebuilding process will take a while. Bielema looked like a home run hire at Arkansas, but came up well short. Fans should be cautious about putting too much stock in Morris.

[pigbacon]

Frito pie.   

[Biggus Piggus]

No.

[JONAS]

Nope.  Who care what that dude thinks?  He probably doesn't know his ass from a hole in the ground.

[hawaiianhogster]

It's his opinion. I disagree with him and that's my opinion.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

It'll be funny when the Hogs take down teams they should not beat this coming season. Reality says 3 or four years before that is supposed to happen. MEH

I'm optimistic yet I understand the reality of the SEC. There are no guarantee's. I won't cry if we have a bad season here or there as long as I can see improvements each year.

[JONAS]

It's his opinion. I disagree with him and that's my opinion.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

It'll be funny when the Hogs take down teams they should not beat this coming season. Reality says 3 or four years before that is supposed to happen. MEH

I'm optimistic yet I understand the reality of the SEC. There are no guarantee's. I won't cry if we have a bad season here or there as long as I can see improvements each year.

I just want to see improvement as well.  I am hoping for 7-5 or 6-6.

[The NewEra]

What I know about Morris is that everywhere he's been, he's been a winner.  I expect to see progress each year and potentially competing for the SEC West by year four or five.  That will be determined by how quickly he can get a top notch defense in place.  Once he's been here three years I don't expect to see a season with less than eight wins with him at the helm.

[lumphog]

FAKE NEWS!!!!!!!

[LuckyGiraffe]

Chad Morris is AWESOME!!!! I know; I've read it on here a lot. How could things possibly be challenging? If he lands his 'best DC in the country,' then he will have a real chance to do well.

[JONAS]

Chad Morris is AWESOME!!!! I know; I've read it on here a lot. How could things possibly be challenging? If he lands his 'best DC in the country,' then he will have a real chance to do well.

I'm ready for the DC to be announced.

[Dwight_K_Shrute]

Well Bielema shadowed Ford's trajectory so we can hope 2018 is 1998 all over again. Hell if Nutt can do it...

[JONAS]

Well Bielema shadowed Ford's trajectory so we can hope 2018 is 1998 all over again. Hell if Nutt can do it...

I wouldn't mind starting 8-0.

[Rayzback]

Trending: Abyss scouting

Why: New coach Chad Morris will have to adapt to what he has been given at Arkansas, since Bret Bielema's recruits will be there a few more seasons. This rebuilding process will take a while. Bielema looked like a home run hire at Arkansas, but came up

Abyss? Dilly, Dilly!

I understand we are looking at big changes, but I'd like to think the experience they gained from the SMU flip will be useful. Maybe speed things up?

[Wildhog]

There are no guarantees. However, there are plenty of reasons for optimism with Morris.

[RockyMtnHog]

I wouldn't mind starting 8-0.

Put a $100 on that in Vegas.  That is probably a 1000-1 shot.

[redeye]

SDS is entertaining, but I rarely place much value in their opinions.  Let's look at what they said:

"New coach Chad Morris will have to adapt to what he has been given at Arkansas, since Bret Bielema's recruits will be there a few more seasons."

Yes, that's how head coaching changes work.  I  think his point is that Bielema's players won't fit into CCM's offense.  Of course there will be problems, but I suspect they'll do better than expected.  Our guys are not super fast, but they're not just big, either.

This rebuilding process will take a while.

If it didn't, then we wouldn't be rebuilding.  He's over-selling this.

Bielema looked like a home run hire at Arkansas, but came up well short.

It's almost like he just discovered what we've known for a while now.

Fans should be cautious about putting too much stock in Morris.

Why?  This is just a blanket statement, because he doesn't give a reason for it.

[cosmodrum]

If SDS were a magazine, it would be Highlights.

[elksnort]

There are no guarantees. However, there are plenty of reasons for optimism with Morris.

the offense will instantly improve and if they could just get quicker on defense that'll make it better there also

[Wildhog]

the offense will instantly improve and if they could just get quicker on defense that'll make it better there also

Agreed on both.

[The Kig]

My responses to your drivel inserted.  The guy is right, but too many have already been blinded or bludgeoned into getting on the Chad Hammerdown express and there's no room to question the almighty decisions that led to his new position.   

SDS is entertaining, but I rarely place much value in their opinions.  Let's look at what they said:

"New coach Chad Morris will have to adapt to what he has been given at Arkansas, since Bret Bielema's recruits will be there a few more seasons."

Yes, that's how head coaching changes work.  I  think his point is that Bielema's players won't fit into CCM's offense.  Of course there will be problems, but I suspect they'll do better than expected.  Our guys are not super fast, but they're not just big, either. 

Agreed...we have slow guys who aren't strong either.  Why would you think they will do better than expected?   

This rebuilding process will take a while.

If it didn't, then we wouldn't be rebuilding.  He's over-selling this.

No...he's not.  Complete overhaul of offense AND defense.  We saw first hand what completely changing an defensive scheme can do.  We were told by many on Hogville how seamless the transition would be because we had players better suited to a 3-4.  It wasn't.   

Bielema looked like a home run hire at Arkansas, but came up well short.

It's almost like he just discovered what we've known for a while now.

No... He's just pointing out the obvious. 

Fans should be cautious about putting too much stock in Morris.

Why?  This is just a blanket statement, because he doesn't give a reason for it.

Other than the onslaught of sunshine rays and unicorns being constantly streamed on Hogville,  it's completely rational to think that this little foray into a Big 12 offensive scheme is going to be difficult in the SEC, let alone by a team that hasn't built a culture around basketball on grass.  Does that mean it won't work?  Of course not, but it's reasonable to be cautious.   

[UA1985]

So much depends on whether we have a QB who can execute the new offense effectively. If one of our QBs really fits well, we could score a lot of points and hide a lot of weaknesses in other areas. But I'm not sure we have the right QB. I hope Kelley is a fit but I'm skeptical.

[synthartist69]

Should we be careful? Yes... this could work out great or it could fail. No one knows. This is new territory for Morris as a HC. Hope it works out for sure!

[synthartist69]

So much depends on whether we have a QB who can execute the new offense effectively. If one of our QBs really fits well, we could score a lot of points and hide a lot of weaknesses in other areas. But I'm not sure we have the right QB. I hope Kelley is a fit but I'm skeptical.

Yes, I really like Kelly but I question his accuracy. Maybe that improves in the off season. Good news is he has some serious time under his belt at starter.

[buldozer]

Only the best coaches have had success here so only time will tell with CCM. He for the most part is an unknown commodity at this point. I hope he turns out to be a rockstar!

[ImHogginIt]

There are no guarantees. However, there are plenty of reasons for optimism with Morris.

Exactly. We have some talented receivers returning and he's adding more. We have a few tight ends that probably are more suited for Morris than blocking for Bielema. Other than pass blocking offense wasn't a huge problem and I think we will score in bunches next year.
I just hope whoever is coaching defense can find a couple difference makers to sign in February. Perhaps a few jucos that can step right in and help.

[(notOM)Rebel123]

Dude has Bama as "kinda standstill".

If Bama is at a standstill...sign us up for that.

[Al Boarland]

Every level headed person with an opinion knows it's going to take a few years for Morris to build the program.  We already have the microwave Hog fans predicting instant success winning 8 games next season.  They will be the same posters crying when it doesn't happen as fast as they would like or at all.

[DeltaBoy]

It will take some time but good Lord we waited 5 years with Long and the Pig Farmer.

[Dwight_K_Shrute]

All he needs to do is beat the two Mississippi schools and with the 4 non-con and he's got 6 regular seasons wins and a bowl game.  After sitting on the sidelines this season I think most would be happy with that and it would show improvement.

What fans don't want is a repeat of Bielema where you go 0'fer in conference your first year after having a losing season the year before.

Beating OM and MSU should be very doable.  OM is a mess and MSU is with a first year HC, no telling what Nick Fitz is going to be like next year.  Win those two be competitive or at least entertaining in the rest of the conference games and he will be fine.

[HogPharmer]

Dude has Bama as "kinda standstill".

If Bama is at a standstill...sign us up for that.

Standstill as in "still standing atop the CFB world"

[jkstock04]

All he needs to do is beat the two Mississippi schools and with the 4 non-con and he's got 6 regular seasons wins and a bowl game.  After sitting on the sidelines this season I think most would be happy with that and it would show improvement.

What fans don't want is a repeat of Bielema where you go 0'fer in conference your first year after having a losing season the year before.

Beating OM and MSU should be very doable.  OM is a mess and MSU is with a first year HC, no telling what Nick Fitz is going to be like next year.  Win those two be competitive or at least entertaining in the rest of the conference games and he will be fine.

The "this was always going to be a 5 year rebuild guys" mantra and narrative ain't gonna work this time around. He will have a tad bit of leeway for 2018 but not much. Guarantee you if he muses about losing the last conference game of the year to make it a solid 0-8 that won't be met with a pat on the butt like last time around.

We need to win 6-8 games this next season in my opinion.

[hogsanity]

Chad Morris is AWESOME!!!! I know; I've read it on here a lot. How could things possibly be challenging? If he lands his 'best DC in the country,' then he will have a real chance to do well.

actually, when it looked like he would be the hire, many here were saying if they hire CM they would leave HV, quit buying tickets, and become ASU fans.

[Cinco de Hogo]

actually, when it looked like he would be the hire, many here were saying if they hire CM they would leave HV, quit buying tickets, and become ASU fans.

Many many are saying it's an awesome hire and they are gonna buy tickets, I expect a huge increase in ticket sales and RF donations...before he ever coaches a game.  Come on people put your money where your mouth is.

PS: I like the hire just fine but I'm waiting til the action starts to start acting like a little girl at the "next big thang" concert. 

What I see is the work that has to be done and that's not hyperbole.

[hogsanity]

Many many are saying it's an awesome hire and they are gonna buy tickets, I expect a huge increase in ticket sales and RF donations...before he ever coaches a game.  Come on people put your money where your mouth is.

PS: I like the hire just fine but I'm waiting til the action starts to start acting like a little girl at the "next big thang" concert. 

What I see is the work that has to be done and that's not hyperbole.

I like the hire, I like it better than Norvell or Kiffin that is for sure. I just find it funny how many posters were so vehement against the hire until it was made official.

[justmakeit2thebcs]

What I know about Morris is that everywhere he's been, he's been a winner.  I expect to see progress each year and potentially competing for the SEC West by year four or five.  That will be determined by how quickly he can get a top notch defense in place.  Once he's been here three years I don't expect to see a season with less than eight wins with him at the helm.

Except for SMU, not a winner there.   Year 3 was better than years 1 and 2, so there's that, so the trand was up. but they lost 3 of the last 4, so the trend was down?

Point is, you can make the numbers fit your agenda. But calling a guy winner at SMU is using something other than the record.   I 'm sure I'll wind up behind the guy by the tiime football season rolls around, then the first time he gives up 60, I'll be pissed again.

[Hogwild]

Every level headed person with an opinion knows it's going to take a few years for Morris to build the program.  We already have the microwave Hog fans predicting instant success winning 8 games next season.  They will be the same posters crying when it doesn't happen as fast as they would like or at all.

I agree, we need to have some patience.  Hopefully we can get to 6 regular season wins and get to a bowl game.  We will not have the talent on a roster next year that can matchup with a lot of opponents we face. It is going to take Morris more than this recruiting class to get the defense and oline to where it needs to be.  The other question is the QB of future '19&'20 currently on the roster?

[jkstock04]

I like the hire, I like it better than Norvell or Kiffin that is for sure. I just find it funny how many posters were so vehement against the hire until it was made official.

I don't, but all I have to do is think about Bret Bielema and the more I get behind it.

[jkstock04]

I agree, we need to have some patience.  Hopefully we can get to 6 regular season wins and get to a bowl game.  We will not have the talent on a roster next year that can matchup with a lot of opponents we face. It is going to take Morris more than this recruiting class to get the defense and oline to where it needs to be.  The other question is the QB of future '19&'20 currently on the roster?

Opinions widely vary on whether this roster has players to win right now or not. I tend to agree with the later...I don't think there is much SEC talent on this team right now. But, we will see what Chad Morris can do with what he has to work with in '18.

[SemperHawg]

The transition piece of it does raise some questions... I would be interested to see what some on here's thought on the subject are.  It seems I have always read/seen "experts" on T.V. say its easier to transition from a system like Bielema ran to an up tempo spread system than the other way around. 

The ease of transition with our current players to his system is the key.  I personally think we have the pieces in place to surprise next year in this offensive scheme.  It looks like a system designed to take the players thinking a whole lot out of the equation and just freeing them up to go make plays.

That could very well be a gross over simplification and just my homerism showing though.

[a0ashle]

I think you can see evidence that CBB was changing the style of player he recruited, so I think we aren't quite at the bottom of the hole, we still have a climb but there is a lot of talent on this team.

[JONAS]

Put a $100 on that in Vegas.  That is probably a 1000-1 shot.

Probably not going to happen.  Would love to see another 42-6 beating of Alabama like 1998.

[The NewEra]

I bet the Spring Game has record turnout!

[hogfanny]

The transition piece of it does raise some questions... I would be interested to see what some on here's thought on the subject are.  It seems I have always read/seen "experts" on T.V. say its easier to transition from a system like Bielema ran to an up tempo spread system than the other way around. 

The ease of transition with our current players to his system is the key.  I personally think we have the pieces in place to surprise next year in this offensive scheme.  It looks like a system designed to take the players thinking a whole lot out of the equation and just freeing them up to go make plays.

That could very well be a gross over simplification and just my homerism showing though.

well it isn't pretty, but it sure is ugly!

[DEVIL DOG HOG]

Welcome back Lanlord.

[rhog1]

I think the reason for optimism next season is twofold. I think we actually have a lot of talent that just wasn't being used properly, and we have one of the easiest schedules we have had since joining the SEC. I could see us winning 8 next year or I could see us only winning 5.  Either way why not be optimistic about the new hire and next season. No point in being a pessimistic sad sack when it could go either way. 

[FutureMan]

I don't agree with that assessment at all.  Towards the end of the season, there was no life or excitement to the team.  There was no hope for the future if CBB remained.  Don't know how it can trend farther down from that. 

CCM is injecting a lot of life to the program.  I am already excited about the possibilities for the future, as I'm sure most other posters are.  Now, that doesn't mean we are going to win the SEC or anything - there is still a transition adjustment that needs to be done, but there is still a lot of talent on this team; especially in the skill positions that will fit right into what CCM is trying to do.  Plus, there is always that new level of excitement and energy when a new coach takes over.

So, if anything, we are at least trending a little up due to the renewed excitement in the program.

[IronHog]

I agree, we need to have some patience.  Hopefully we can get to 6 regular season wins and get to a bowl game.  We will not have the talent on a roster next year that can matchup with a lot of opponents we face. It is going to take Morris more than this recruiting class to get the defense and oline to where it needs to be.  The other question is the QB of future '19&'20 currently on the roster?

Have you looked at the 2018 schedule?


Plenty of rent a wins and vandy/Mizzou from the east

[MORAZOR]

The offense scored enough points to win a couple extra games last year.....New offense is great and exciting....biggest issue for the past 2 years have been defense, or lack thereof.....hard to think much will change until we find out who the dcoord will be....

[ChicoHog]

If SDS were a magazine, it would be Highlights.

hey, I always liked the Hidden Pictures when I was at the dentist/doctors office! 

[AHorseWithNoName]

hey, I always liked the Hidden Pictures when I was at the dentist/doctors office!

But Tennessee is "Down but not Out".  LOL   Yeah, this guy is an expert on College Football.  Wowzers