UT Athletics * -- About as pathetic as it can get lol

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http://myespn.go.com/blogs/big12/0-8-185/Longhorns-have-claimed-the-2008-Big-12-title----with-an-asterisk.html

[hawgsav1]

Jeez.  As much as I dislike the BCS, that was not the fault of the BCS.  That was the fault of the Big 12 conference and their decision to make the BCS standings the final tiebreaker.  I think the Big 12 will have an issue with them claiming to have the title.

[HogFaninMemphis]

Jeez.  As much as I dislike the BCS, that was not the fault of the BCS.  That was the fault of the Big 12 conference and their decision to make the BCS standings the final tiebreaker.  I think the Big 12 will have an issue with them claiming to have the title.

Yes, I agree.  I don't have a huge problem with them claiming the title, but come on.  You should have been in the national title, yes.  You didn't make it because of the screwy system and the fact that you LOST.  If they had gone undefeated and had this problem, then they would have more to whine and scream about in my opinion.

[Big Papa Satan]

Wonder if they'll get rings.

[ErieHog]

Jeez.  As much as I dislike the BCS, that was not the fault of the BCS.  That was the fault of the Big 12 conference and their decision to make the BCS standings the final tiebreaker.  I think the Big 12 will have an issue with them claiming to have the title.

The Big XII's offices are in Dallas, and UT dominates the personnel who work for the conference-- much like the old SWC.    You won't hear a word out of the conference offices about this.

[hawgsav1]

The Big XII's offices are in Dallas, and UT dominates the personnel who work for the conference-- much like the old SWC.    You won't hear a word out of the conference offices about this.

Fair enough.  I can't say I'm aware of the personnel that staff the Big XII offices, but I do see this as a "Wahhh" maneuver by the Longhorns...not that UT cares what I think, but still.

[ErieHog]

Fair enough.  I can't say I'm aware of the personnel that staff the Big XII offices, but I do see this as a "Wahhh" maneuver by the Longhorns...not that UT cares what I think, but still.

It was one of the big hangups in the formation of the Big XII-- where the conference offices would be.   Nebraska and Colorado wanted them in Kansas City or Denver, Texas wanted them in Dallas, and OU was pretty neutral.   Finally, everyone caved to Texas' demands.

[hawgsav1]

It was one of the big hangups in the formation of the Big XII-- where the conference offices would be.   Nebraska and Colorado wanted them in Kansas City or Denver, Texas wanted them in Dallas, and OU was pretty neutral.   Finally, everyone caved to Texas' demands.

Interesting...so was the placement of the Big 12 championship game in Kansas City a sort of 'compromise' to alleviate Nebraska and Colorado's concerns?

[ErieHog]

Interesting...so was the placement of the Big 12 championship game in Kansas City a sort of 'compromise' to alleviate Nebraska and Colorado's concerns?

Keep in mind that Kansas City has only hosted the Big XII Championship Game 5 times;  indeed, it's moving to Jerry World for 2009 and 2010.

It's been in St. Louis twice, Houston twice, Texas Stadium once, and the Alamo Dome 3 times.

It's just how things have fallen, contractually.

[bamabaseball]

sounds like the big 12 , change your system

[kimjongsqUeAl]

Just another example of Texas' arrogance.

[FSguy38]

The Big XII's offices are in Dallas, and UT dominates the personnel who work for the conference-- much like the old SWC.    You won't hear a word out of the conference offices about this.

They also have as much influence as anyone else in how the league rules are written.
It was pointed out during the controversy that Texas raised no objection to the tie-breaker when it was created. Why? They're Texas and probably never believed the rule could actually work against them.

[taintlint]

Is this real?

I read the article but kept thinking it was from The Onion.

Unreal.

[BigSexyHog]

Man, they just make sh^t up as they go along don't they.

[Silver Hog]

Wonder if they'll get rings.

Those are hard to get (according to some who then order about 20 extra for friends and family)!

[Oliver]

Wonder if they'll get rings.

They got rings another year when they tied for the Big 12 South with OU I believe but OU had won the tiebreaker in head to head. 

[drivetimeporks]

 maybe they should just post  their 4 national championships on the wall and leave it at that

[Wild Bill Hog]

Wonder if they'll get rings.

Yeah.  With an asterisk set in the stone.

[cbjagman]

Sounds as if the 'hornies were inspired by the Hooter a few years back when he revealed those championship rings he bought himself for the Hogs winning the SECW title. Well all know that UT couldn't be "one-upped" by the Dale.

[idiotghos]

Nice job claiming the overall title when you didn't even win your division.  Why don't they go ahead and declare themselves national champs while they're at it?

[SRFL]

As many UT loathers say, "their fans were born on third but think they hit a triple...".  So true.  The arrogance that abounds down on the 40 Acres has no limit. 

[Tusks]

macbrown shaking his hand talking about how tough it is to get one of these.....in his case it really is hard to get one like he did.


you know where SEC tickets go a face value or more.....you cant give B12 CG tickets away.

Let's all go to KC and sit in 20 degree weather and watch a meaningless football game.....whoopee!!

[SRFL]

The Ags have updated UT's wall...

[Hawg Balling]

Jeez.  As much as I dislike the BCS, that was not the fault of the BCS.  That was the fault of the Big 12 conference and their decision to make the BCS standings the final tiebreaker.  I think the Big 12 will have an issue with them claiming to have the title.

Bingo.  Each conference (if it is comprised of two divisions and has a conference championship game) decides how its divisions will be represented in that championship game. 

I remember someone on ESPN saying that the SEC had a much better system than the Big 12, whereas if the situation that happened last year occurs (3 way tie), then the SEC deems the head-to-head match-up between the top 2 teams to be the tiebreaker if the teams are within 5 spots of each other in the BCS rankings. 

For example, if Florida, Georgia, and South Carolina are in a 3 way tie for the division title (like UT, TT, and OU were), and Florida was #4, Georgia was #8, and USC was #15, but Georgia beat Florida, Georgia would go to the SEC Championship Game because they won the head-to-head match-up and were less than five rankings down.  Sounds complicated but it's really not, and it's a hell of a lot better than the Big 12's master plan.

[drivetimeporks]

macbrown shaking his hand talking about how tough it is to get one of these.....in his case it really is hard to get one like he did.


you know where SEC tickets go a face value or more.....you cant give B12 CG tickets away.

Let's all go to KC and sit in 20 degree weather and watch a meaningless football game.....whoopee!!

why diss the big 12 ? must i again  remind the blind yet faithful hogfans of the tremendous a$$ kicking handed to us by  a big 12 school last time we played them...  MIZZOU tigers anyone ? let me break this down grant coutny style so ya'll can understand ..you cant talk smack about folks when they own your asses..

[SRFL]

This isn't on the field smack here, it's "I can't stand UT and when they do something so insanely idiotic I will kick them in the balls" smack.  It U freaking T.

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[colemjh]

Blog from the Houston Chronicle:  The University of Texas embarrasses itself

http://blogs.chron.com/jeromesolomon/2009/04/the_university_of_texas_embara.html

[razorback3072]

Wonder if they'll get rings.

They don't need trophies to prove they are champions.  Just ask their baseball coach.

[rljjr]

I liked the comment below the story on ESPN where the guy asked if they were going to make Colt McCoy a fake Heisman too! Well done, Sips, well done.

[Jborohog09]

why diss the big 12 ? must i again  remind the blind yet faithful hogfans of the tremendous a$$ kicking handed to us by  a big 12 school last time we played them...  MIZZOU tigers anyone ? let me break this down grant coutny style so ya'll can understand ..you cant talk smack about folks when they own your asses..

they're Texas, we can talk all the smack we want.

[Tusks]

i think the hogs have more wins than losses against all the B12 teams combined.....so one game doesnt make an arse handing.

they're Texas, we can talk all the smack we want.

[toozakpig]

I guess the Raycom Contract may have confused them

[Hawgrox]

The Ags have updated UT's wall...

This isn't on the field smack here, it's "I can't stand UT and when they do something so insanely idiotic I will kick them in the balls" smack.  It U freaking T.

Freakin' Hilarious! Virtual +10,000!

[cbjagman]

These guys are the absolute epitome of arrogance. Just look in the dictionary and you will see UT under the definition "arrogant s.o.b.s".

[drivetimeporks]

i think the hogs have more wins than losses against all the B12 teams combined.....so one game doesnt make an arse handing.

and im supposing you arent counting us ever playing texas in that logic eh mr hawking?

[drivetimeporks]

texas can be arrogant in football..as can usc, florida,    and duke hoops, nc hoops kentucky hoops..  to the victor belongs the spoils eh..

[SRFL]

texas can be arrogant in football..as can usc, florida,    and duke hoops, nc hoops kentucky hoops..  to the victor belongs the spoils eh..

To the Aggie-like move such as this one goes the ridicule, eh...

[COCHISE]

I'm not sure which is sadder, Arkansas not having an SEC championship yet, or Texas only having two Big 12 championships.

[drivetimeporks]

 still should go with their 4 ncaa national championships, eh?

[drivetimeporks]

I'm not sure which is sadder, Arkansas not having an SEC championship yet, or Texas only having two Big 12 championships.

texas is COMPETITIVE for  their conf championship every year.. can u say the same for the hogs?   wait , can a rational person say the same for the hogs?

[COCHISE]

texas is COMPETITIVE for  their conf championship every year.. can u say the same for the hogs?   wait , can a rational person say the same for the hogs?

They don't hand out rings for being competitive.  With the players Texas signs every year they should be competing for National Championships every year, not being "competitive" for Big 12 championships.

[drivetimeporks]

They don't hand out rings for being competitive.  With the players Texas signs every year they should be competing for National Championships every year, not being "competitive" for Big 12 championships.

excuses anyone? ya'll keep wanting to say we are a big time program, but you  spin excuses at every turn....45 years and counting.. should we start a last man club for people alive the last time arkansas won a football title?...you cant hide in the bushes and throw rocks at texas and claim to be top tier... i hate them, but the sobs have 4 nat titles.. thats 1-2-3-4.. 3 more than we have.. and theyre a heckuva lot closer to another than we are...  wanna run with the big dogs, stop cowering on the porch... your skewed perspective doesnt translate to W's

[Hawg Balling]

texas is COMPETITIVE for  their conf championship every year.. can u say the same for the hogs?   wait , can a rational person say the same for the hogs?

It'd be pretty easy for us to be competitive if half of our schedule was comprised of teams like Baylor, SMU, Iowa State, Rice, Texas A&M, Oklahoma State, and Colorado.  Not to mention that Kansas was a doormat before 2007, and Nebraska isn't the obstacle it used to be.  The SEC and Big 12 aren't very comparable, in that the SEC is top-to-bottom the best conference, while the Big 12 is top heavy and that power is concentrated in the South Division.  Not trying to be irrational, but I would like to see Texas maintain their winning edge if they were in the SEC West, playing Alabama, LSU, and Auburn every year. 

[drivetimeporks]

It'd be pretty easy for us to be competitive if half of our schedule was comprised of teams like Baylor, SMU, Iowa State, Rice, Texas A&M, Oklahoma State, and Colorado.  Not to mention that Kansas was a doormat before 2007, and Nebraska isn't the obstacle it used to be.  The SEC and Big 12 aren't very comparable, in that the SEC is top-to-bottom the best conference, while the Big 12 is top heavy and that power is concentrated in the South Division.

thats yet another excuse isnt it? and guess what..? Co , A & M, ok state all wouldve walked all over arkansas last year... lets not forget NE,  Kstate,  ou, mizzouri... yeah arkansas would won the big 12 last year.. please.. like ol miss (whoops) miss state vandy.. south carolina are  making anyone shake in their boots?

[drivetimeporks]

crickets? thought so.....

[Hawg Balling]

thats yet another excuse isnt it? and guess what..? Co , A & M, ok state all wouldve walked all over arkansas last year... lets not forget NE,  Kstate,  ou, mizzouri... yeah arkansas would won the big 12 last year.. please.. like ol miss (whoops) miss state vandy.. south carolina are  making anyone shake in their boots?

Not to throw mud, but are you a Texas fan or something?  I'm all for rational discussion, but it seems to me that you're throwing out a lot of "we suck" talk in addition to continuous defense of UT.  Again, I'm not accusing you of anything, but your degradation of the SEC threw me off a bit.

[SRFL]

still should go with their 4 ncaa national championships, eh?

Good Lord.  UT bone much?

[drivetimeporks]

Not to throw mud, but are you a Texas fan or something?  I'm all for rational discussion, but it seems to me that you're throwing out a lot of "we suck" talk in addition to continuous defense of UT.  Again, I'm not accusing you of anything, but your degradation of the SEC threw me off a bit.

if any of you had followed my posts over time,( and shame on you for missing out if you havent ) im not an sec rah rah.. why? because my team is arkansas, not lsu, not florida, etc.. i dont get my jollies b/c florida or bama or lsu wins.. i find that irrational.. " yeah bama  kicked our asses too.. but were better cuz we are in the sec? not a texas fan either but, itd funny to me that a 2nd tier sec team dare chastise the likes of ut on the football field...im a big supporter of reality