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mizzouman

Just heard that Memphis told Anderson not to sign with Mizzou until they talk with him.  Mizzou gave Memphis permission.

The Boar War

Why in the world would they want to talk to Mike Anderson?  ::)

 

Coondog Hog

Quote from: The Boar War on March 30, 2009, 02:38:31 pm
Why in the world would they want to talk to Mike Anderson?  ::)

MA could do as well as Calipari at UM or very comparable.  this is a good move for memphis if they do it.

Damn Jeff Long, if MA slips through our fingers again.

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Quote from: mmhogs17 on March 08, 2011, 11:02:18 pm
I've had alot of things in and out of my butt, but never Monkeys..

Pork Twain

Quote from: Coondog Hog on March 30, 2009, 02:45:50 pm
MA could do as well as Calipari at UM or very comparable.  this is a good move for memphis if they do it.

Damn Jeff Long, if MA slips through our fingers again.

No offense but MA could not recruit Calipari's jock.  Why is everyone so hung up on MA???
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JLaws

Quote from: The Boar War on March 30, 2009, 02:38:31 pm
Why in the world would they want to talk to Mike Anderson?  ::)
Maybe because Anderson just turned a program around and took them as far as they've ever been in a very short amount of time.
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The Boar War

Clearly no one seems to understand that  ::) symbolizes my frustration that Mike is going to interview with Memphis and not Arkansas.

donewithdale

Quote from: Coondog Hog on March 30, 2009, 02:45:50 pm
MA could do as well as Calipari at UM or very comparable.  this is a good move for memphis if they do it.

Damn Jeff Long, if MA slips through our fingers again.



Slip through our fingers? Have we tried grabbing him yet?

Short term while Cal's players are there, Mike should do well.  And it would be good for Memphis in that the style should sell tickets and keep the revenue coming in as I am sure Memphis needs it seeing how they are in a bad conference with little tv revenue and little football revenue. 

Coondog Hog

Quote from: BeoPig™ on March 30, 2009, 02:47:07 pm
No offense but MA could not recruit Calipari's jock.  Why is everyone so hung up on MA???

WTH does MA have to do to arn respect his teams are winners every where he has been, and Calipari's recruiting has gotten him 1 less ring than Anderson has and 1 less trip to the final 4.
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Quote from: mmhogs17 on March 08, 2011, 11:02:18 pm
I've had alot of things in and out of my butt, but never Monkeys..

ALLVOL

Mike Anderson will recruit well at Memphis. Look where he was before you say he cant recruit. UAB? And he just got to Mizzou. Winning is the best recruiting tool.

Razorpigg

Quote from: BeoPig™ on March 30, 2009, 02:47:07 pm
No offense but MA could not recruit Calipari's jock.  Why is everyone so hung up on MA???


Not sure I would have put quite that way but its true. Calipari is a top notch recruiter, arguably the best in the country.  Mike has not proven anything as a recruiter. Doesnt mean he cant coach but you cant even mention MA in the same breath with Calipari when it comes to recruiting and success.

hogsanity

Quote from: donewithdale on March 30, 2009, 02:50:18 pm
Slip through our fingers? Have we tried grabbing him yet?

Short term while Cal's players are there, Mike should do well.  And it would be good for Memphis in that the style should sell tickets and keep the revenue coming in as I am sure Memphis needs it seeing how they are in a bad conference with little tv revenue and little football revenue. 

Slip through our fngers?  Did we fire Pel today and forget to tell ayone? Last I checked, we hve  coach.
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Quote from: Coondog Hog on March 30, 2009, 02:51:08 pm
WTH does MA have to do to arn respect his teams are winners every where he has been, and Calipari's recruiting has gotten him 1 less ring than Anderson has and 1 less trip to the final 4.
Recruit...  Nolan took Mike to Tulsa.  Nolan took Mike to Arkansas.  Nolan won Mike his ring.  Nolan took Mike to the Final fours.  I think he will do great in Memphis because there is so much talent there.
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Quote from: BeoPig™ on March 30, 2009, 02:47:07 pm
No offense but MA could not recruit Calipari's jock.  Why is everyone so hung up on MA???

It's really sickening.  I like Anderson and hope he does well wherever he is (even at Memphis), but many are almost obsessed with him now.  When, over the past two years, these same people had been saying, "thank goodness we didn't hire Mike Anderson." because he wasn't doing very well at Missouri (and looked like he might be fired).

 

Coondog Hog

Quote from: donewithdale on March 30, 2009, 02:50:18 pm
Slip through our fingers? Have we tried grabbing him yet?

Short term while Cal's players are there, Mike should do well.  And it would be good for Memphis in that the style should sell tickets and keep the revenue coming in as I am sure Memphis needs it seeing how they are in a bad conference with little tv revenue and little football revenue. 

Anderson will see a ring before Pel wherever he decides to coach and we have had the oppourtunity twice to make a play for him and passed it over.  this is what frustrates the he!! out of myself and many others.

If we were talking BCG or anyone else for that matter I would say give Pell year 3, but its MA and he is a winner and one of us.  He is part ou the razorback family and we have turned out back to him twice.

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Quote from: mmhogs17 on March 08, 2011, 11:02:18 pm
I've had alot of things in and out of my butt, but never Monkeys..

donewithdale

Watching our fan base's reaction will be entertaining if this happens.  Hope Memphis gets him into an overpaid, long term contract with a 'special' buyout if he wants to leave for Arkansas.  Not the kind of closure his coming here instead of Memphis would bring but closure nonetheless.

Oliver

Sounds like Memphis is going to one up us yet again.

The Boar War

Quote from: The Hogfather on March 30, 2009, 03:00:36 pm
It's really sickening.  I like Anderson and hope he does well wherever he is (even at Memphis), but many are almost obsessed with him now.  When, over the past two years, these same people had been saying, "thank goodness we didn't hire Mike Anderson." because he wasn't doing very well at Missouri (and looked like he might be fired).

Memphis fans seem to be excited about the prospect of getting him.  If I saw much reason to be a Pelphrey fan, I would.  He's a nice personable guy.   But I don't see the reasoning in letting Mike Anderson go without a fight so we can have another down year in 2010 and fire Pelphrey at the end of the season.

Coondog Hog

Quote from: The Hogfather on March 30, 2009, 03:00:36 pm
It's really sickening.  I like Anderson and hope he does well wherever he is (even at Memphis), but many are almost obsessed with him now.  When, over the past two years, these same people had been saying, "thank goodness we didn't hire Mike Anderson." because he wasn't doing very well at Missouri (and looked like he might be fired).

I never said this never once I was a MA guy from Nolans departure to now.  MA has a better pedigree with lesser talent and time than Calipari this is no accident that he gets more from less he is as good a coach as their is the country right now.
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Quote from: mmhogs17 on March 08, 2011, 11:02:18 pm
I've had alot of things in and out of my butt, but never Monkeys..

donewithdale

Quote from: Coondog Hog on March 30, 2009, 03:07:02 pm
I never said this never once I was a MA guy from Nolans departure to now.  MA has a better pedigree with lesser talent and time than Calipari this is no accident that he gets more from less he is as good a coach as their is the country right now.

"..he gets more from less he is as good a coach as their is the country right now."

Careful.

The Hogfather

Quote from: The Boar War on March 30, 2009, 03:05:29 pm
Memphis fans seem to be excited about the prospect of getting him.  If I saw much reason to be a Pelphrey fan, I would.  He's a nice personable guy.   But I don't see the reasoning in letting Mike Anderson go without a fight so we can have another down year in 2010 and fire Pelphrey at the end of the season.

A lot of our fans were excited about Stan Heath.

chiefsfan

Quote from: donewithdale on March 30, 2009, 03:04:17 pm
Watching our fan base's reaction will be entertaining if this happens.  Hope Memphis gets him into an overpaid, long term contract with a 'special' buyout if he wants to leave for Arkansas.  Not the kind of closure his coming here instead of Memphis would bring but closure nonetheless.

I agree.  I would probably like to see Anderson go there just to see the reaction of the fan base whose convinced that Anderson will come running home as soon as we come calling

plus it would get rid of all the Mike Anderson talk.  I think that the Memphis program will actually drop slightly with him in charge of them after a couple years of winning with Calipari's talent
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Quote from: donewithdale on March 30, 2009, 03:13:13 pm
"..he gets more from less he is as good a coach as their is the country right now."

Careful.

Nutt was a freakin joke MA has produced his whole career.

Carefull my tail
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Quote from: mmhogs17 on March 08, 2011, 11:02:18 pm
I've had alot of things in and out of my butt, but never Monkeys..

The Hogfather

Quote from: donewithdale on March 30, 2009, 03:13:13 pm
"..he gets more from less he is as good a coach as their is the country right now."

Careful.

He's a winner and a fighter, too.  He only wants players who want to play for him.  He doesn't need stars.  He gets the most out of those 3-star players.  He doesn't need those 4 and 5-star players.

chiefsfan

Quote from: rob99SS on March 30, 2009, 03:15:29 pm
Just wonderful were gonna miss out on Anderson again, This basketball program is a joke.

losing out on anderson may be one of the better things to happen to us.   I really and truly believe that.   It would put a halt to these automatic assumptions that everybody wants to coach Arkansas
Honor and Integrity no longer exist in the world of college football.  It is only filled with liar's cheater's, and traitors.

 

The Boar War

Quote from: The Hogfather on March 30, 2009, 03:14:03 pm
A lot of our fans were excited about Stan Heath.

The only thing that Mike Anderson and Stan Heath have in common is that they both went to the Elite Eight.  There are a lot of other coaches who have gotten to that level as well.  Why not compare Anderson to them?

The Boar War

Quote from: chiefsfan on March 30, 2009, 03:20:22 pm
losing out on anderson may be one of the better things to happen to us.   I really and truly believe that.   It would put a halt to these automatic assumptions that everybody wants to coach Arkansas

Everybody???  Believing that a former assistant coach might want to coach at a school where he spent seventeen years is not a stretch.

The Hogfather

Quote from: The Boar War on March 30, 2009, 03:24:52 pm
The only thing that Mike Anderson and Stan Heath have in common is that they both went to the Elite Eight.  There are a lot of other coaches who have gotten to that level as well.  Why not compare Anderson to them?

Because they weren't hired at the University of Arkansas.

Coondog Hog

March 30, 2009, 03:27:37 pm #27 Last Edit: March 30, 2009, 03:29:41 pm by Coondog Hog
Anderson is as good a coach as there is anywhere in the country.  he will not be a drop off for memphis and will be ar regular face in the Sweet 16 and the elite 8.  i hope he stays with mizzou.  It will be easier for us to get him then. 

  I hope Pel wins big and the only person I would ship him for this year is MA, but my confidence that Pel will get it done is nill at this point.

We will see next year whether our experiment with Kenucky's crumbs is going to work or not.
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Quote from: mmhogs17 on March 08, 2011, 11:02:18 pm
I've had alot of things in and out of my butt, but never Monkeys..

donewithdale

Quote from: chiefsfan on March 30, 2009, 03:20:22 pm
losing out on anderson may be one of the better things to happen to us.   I really and truly believe that.   It would put a halt to these automatic assumptions that everybody wants to coach Arkansas

Nah, they'll still whine every time things don't go our way that we could have hired Mike but Long refused to fire Pelphrey.  But if Memphis hires him, at least for a few seasons we won't have to deal with the "fire Pel -or whomever- and hire Mike".

Oliver

Quote from: chiefsfan on March 30, 2009, 03:20:22 pm
losing out on anderson may be one of the better things to happen to us.   I really and truly believe that.   It would put a halt to these automatic assumptions that everybody wants to coach Arkansas

For me, it would put a hault to the assumption that we give a stuff about our basketball program.

The Boar War

Quote from: The Hogfather on March 30, 2009, 03:27:24 pm
Because they weren't hired at the University of Arkansas.

So by your reasoning our conversation could have gone this way?

Memphis fans seem to be excited about the prospect of hiring Jamie Dixon.

And your reply would be "A lot of our fans were excited about Stan Heath"?

Getting to the Elite Eight is a good thing not a indicator that a coach will fail in the future. 

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The Hogfather

Quote from: The Boar War on March 30, 2009, 03:35:13 pm
So by your reasoning our conversation could have gone this way?

Memphis fans seem to be excited about the prospect of hiring Jamie Dixon.

And your reply would be "A lot of our fans were excited about Stan Heath"?

Getting to the Elite Eight is a good thing not a indicator that a coach will fail in the future. 

Nor is it an indicator that they will indeed be successful everywhere they go. 

Fans being excited about getting a particular coach is as far from a reason to hire a coach as any.

forrest city joe

Quote from: Coondog Hog on March 30, 2009, 02:45:50 pm
MA could do as well as Calipari at UM or very comparable.  this is a good move for memphis if they do it.

Damn Jeff Long, if MA slips through our fingers again.


I just got off work and saw this. it makes me sick.by keeping Pel, we have lost our chance to get Mike Anderson. Jeff Long blew this one.

heathtits

Quote from: Wild Bill Hog on March 30, 2009, 03:37:10 pm
The sky is falling  -  Presser at 4:30  -  News Reports at 5:00 and 6:00.

How is that possible after our latest season? The universe would fold in on itself if things got any worse for this program.

solitons

Quote from: mizzouman on March 30, 2009, 02:35:24 pm
Just heard that Memphis told Anderson not to sign with Mizzou until they talk with him.  Mizzou gave Memphis permission.

I just hope they hire pel from us

ErieHog

Quote from: donewithdale on March 30, 2009, 03:13:13 pm
"..he gets more from less he is as good a coach as their is the country right now."

Careful.

Want a fun parallel to toss around?  Mike Anderson= Butch Davis.

Legends in the minds of a fan-faction that wants a coaching change.
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lovetthog1

I had a feeling MA would end up at Memphis... told ya... Long gets a jockstrap on this one.

rzrbackrob

If Pel does not work out, Arkansas will have enough money to go after Anderson if it comes to that (see the ESPN deal).
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LRMedHawg

Quote from: The Hogfather on March 30, 2009, 03:40:11 pm
Nor is it an indicator that they will indeed be successful everywhere they go. 

Fans being excited about getting a particular coach is as far from a reason to hire a coach as any.

I know, ticket sells and TV revenue mean absolutely nothing when you are looking at candidates.  I mean it's not like a business or anything where you are trying to sell a product to your customers.

Hawgon

Quote from: rzrbackrob on March 30, 2009, 04:50:17 pm
If Pel does not work out, Arkansas will have enough money to go after Anderson if it comes to that (see the ESPN deal).

Wrong.  That money goes to the school and the Athletic Department.  The State of Arkansas has a law whereby state employees cannot be paid more than something like $300,000.  That, of course, means that we get around that law by having the Razorback Foundation pay the coach the bulk of his money.  Of course, as a private organization the Razorback Foundation does not receive any of the ESPN money, it gets all of its money from ticket sales and donations.  Hence, increased donations, ticket sales, and raised ticket prices are the only way to increase coaches salaries at Arkansas.

rzbk

I don't buy into these rumors just yet. They may be true, but I'm not buying them.

Why?

1. Kentucky fires Billy G.
2. Memphis loses in NCAAT
3. Missouri loses in NCAAT
4. Memphis gives Kentucky permission to speak to Calipari
5. Kentucky offers Calipari the job and big money
6. Memphis contacts Anderson

Anyone see the problem here?
Why would Memphis contact Anderson for a job that is still filled?
Calipari may take the job, and I think he will, and maybe he told them he would but hasn't made it public, but I still don't buy the rumor that they're already talking to Anderson and have let that leak while it isn't know to the public what Cal will do.

The Boar War

Quote from: rzbk on March 30, 2009, 04:58:25 pm
I don't buy into these rumors just yet. They may be true, but I'm not buying them.

Why?

1. Kentucky fires Billy G.
2. Memphis loses in NCAAT
3. Missouri loses in NCAAT
4. Memphis gives Kentucky permission to speak to Calipari
5. Kentucky offers Calipari the job and big money
6. Memphis contacts Anderson

Anyone see the problem here?
Why would Memphis contact Anderson for a job that is still filled?
Calipari may take the job, and I think he will, and maybe he told them he would but hasn't made it public, but I still don't buy the rumor that they're already talking to Anderson and have let that leak while it isn't know to the public what Cal will do.

Because in the back of their mind Memphis fans have always expected to lose Calipari.  Any AD in their right mind will always have a list of coaches who they think would be good replacements.

Cal has let everyone know he's taking the job.  He just hasn't signed and been introduced yet.

The Hogfather

Quote from: LRMedHawg on March 30, 2009, 04:51:29 pm
I know, ticket sells and TV revenue mean absolutely nothing when you are looking at candidates.  I mean it's not like a business or anything where you are trying to sell a product to your customers.

That can wear off very quickly if your new hire doesn't get "expected results" (see Pelphrey with our fickle fanbase).

A lot of people were very happy when we hired Pelphrey.  Then, he had one EXPECTED poor season  and are ready to ride him out on a rail.  I have a feeling that might happen to Mike Anderson (or maybe any coach, depending on who they are able to get if Cal leaves) if he gets the Memphis job, due to the fans' high expectations now.

rzbk

Quote from: The Boar War on March 30, 2009, 05:04:57 pm
Because in the back of their mind Memphis fans have always expected to lose Calipari.  Any AD in their right mind will always have a list of coaches who they think would be good replacements.

Cal has let everyone know he's taking the job.  He just hasn't signed and been introduced yet.

Thing is, Memphis fans aren't running the proram.
And while the AD may have a list, they wouldn't contact someone before their coach told them they had decided to take another job.

Like I said, I think it's probably Cal took the job and let both sides know already. I just believe it wouldn't have hit the boards or anywhere about Memphis and Anderson yet if that were true. They wouldn't let that out before Cal publicly took the job.

hawgsav1

Quote from: ErieHog on March 30, 2009, 04:48:27 pm
Want a fun parallel to toss around?  Mike Anderson= Butch Davis.

Legends in the minds of a fan-faction that wants a coaching change.

I have been a Mike Anderson fan from the very beginning.  Look at what he did at UAB.  Murry Bartow wasn't getting it done at UAB, but Anderson did.  He made the tournament in every year except his first, and upset overall 1 seed Kentucky to reach the Sweet 16 in his second year.  He also made the tourney every year after that.  Anyone who wants to say Anderson is better than a coach like Jim Calhoun or Roy Williams is a lunatic, but for 850k a year, I'd say what Anderson has done at both Missouri and UAB is a damn good bargain.  Him coming back here would be nice to see.

I'm still on the fence with John Pelphrey.  He has the passion and the desire, but nothing about this season sits well with me.  Even in his first year there were a number of things that worried me.  While Pelphrey got a group of underachievers to finally perform better, they were still inconsistent (much like this year's team).  They did improve in certain areas as the season went along, but they would regress in others.  This year the team seemed to do the same.

This year, the team continually regressed and wore down as the season went along.  I'm not 100% convinced on the guys we have coming in either.  Also, Pelphrey's disciplinary methods didn't seem to be very effective either.  The chemistry continued to get worse as well.  A lot of people gave the 'lack of depth' argument, but there are a number of teams who run the Pitino/Donovan style that don't go deeper than 7 or 8 deep (Hell, only 7 players on this year's Louisville roster averaged more than 12 minutes a game and Donovan's championship teams had only 7 players who averaged more than 12 minutes a game). If there is some sort of hope going into next season, I'm not sure I see it. 
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jamie72921

Quote from: BeoPig™ on March 30, 2009, 02:47:07 pm
No offense but MA could not recruit Calipari's jock.  Why is everyone so hung up on MA???

Maybe because he just hung a century on Calipari and his team of McDonald's All Americans.

Why are you so hung up on Calipari?
Bless your heart

Hoop

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