Who does Georgia offer now ?

[want2be]

With Grant going to Bama, who are the most reasonable choices for coaches. I have heard they are going to pay up to 2 million. Capel is on the short list, but I don't think he would leave Oklahoma now. With BG leaving Kentucky would he be a viable choice?

One thing for sure........it appears most programs in the SEC are taking a step up and paying to get better coaches.

[The Hogfather]

With Grant going to Bama, who are the most reasonable choices for coaches. I have heard they are going to pay up to 2 million. Capel is on the short list, but I don't think he would leave Oklahoma now. With BG leaving Kentucky would he be a viable choice?

One thing for sure........it appears most programs in the SEC are taking a step up and paying to get better coaches.

I've said it many times over the past couple of days, Georgia could be a very good job for someone, especially if they are really going to pay $2 million.

If they are really paying $2 million, I could definitely see Mike Anderson listening.

I'd go after Sean Miller, Mike Anderson, Tubby Smith, etc.

However, I think they probably end up with another up-and-comer.

[weresoclose]

Bring Tubby back?  Too weird. 

Mike A. or anyone else would jump at a DOUBLE salary from what they were making (even if he gets his 1.3 mil salary as being reported, that's Pel's entire salary less than Georgia would offer).  You'd have to be a fool not to. 

I bet they get somebody out of nowhere.  Not an up-and-comer, but a surprise.  No guesses on who that would be, though.

[want2be]

With Kentucky snubbing BG, I think he would be a good fit a Georgia with a chip on his shoulders to prove what he can do. Either that are he could end up at Texas Tech.

[donewithdale]

UGa had decided to go after more experienced and proven candidates instead of Grant.  Sean Miller has been mentioned for a couple of weeks as well as Capel.  UGa football makes so much that the athl dept makes a good profit so they can afford it.  Its can they find a coach that wants to compete against the ACC in recruiting the Atlanta area to a school known as a football school with little fan support.

[Razorod]

The job will get a lot tougher if Cal goes to KY:

Two games against Donovan and Fla
Two games against Cal and KY
Two games against Pearl and Tenn
A trip to Nashville to play in a tough gym against Vandy--and that's just inside your division.

Also, a lot of people are high on Horn and the job he is/will do at S. Car.

[hogfan064]

Georgia is not a good job.  They play in an awful arena and lack fan support.  It's the worst job in the SEC East

I doubt they land a big name. 

[The Hogfather]

Georgia is not a good job.  They play in an awful arena and lack fan support.  It's the worst job in the SEC East

I doubt they land a big name. 

Right now it is.  While Tubby was there, it was top 2 in the East.  And it can be again, with the right coach.  There is TONS of talent within that state's borders.  You just have to keep the talent in-state and away from GT to be successful at Georgia.  It's definitely not easy to do.  But, if you can do it, you can be very successful.

And, if they really are going to pay $2 million, that makes it an even better job.

[lovetthog1]

I just don't know. There are no quality coaches out there that want a job. Especially when you are only paying 2 mill. They should have never fired their coach to begin with. Coaching searches are too hard on many fragile fans. This will set their program back for at least a decade. They should have had at least five new candidates lined up prior to even considering a coaching change. They should have just brought in some new assistants. I fear my beloved bulldogs will never recover.

[hogfan064]

Right now it is.  While Tubby was there, it was top 2 in the East.  And it can be again, with the right coach.  There is TONS of talent within that state's borders.  You just have to keep the talent in-state and away from GT to be successful at Georgia.  It's definitely not easy to do.  But, if you can do it, you can be very successful.

And, if they really are going to pay $2 million, that makes it an even better job.

Tubby was only at Georgia for 2 years.  South Carolina was probably the #2 team at that time as they won the SEC in 1997 under Fogler.

Georgia lacks fan support.  Even when they win they don't draw well.   Yes, its close to Atlanta, but so is Auburn, Clemson, and South Carolina. 

At best this is a job where you might get to the sweet 16 every few years.  Georgia will never be a power in basketball.     

[The Hogfather]

Tubby was only at Georgia for 2 years.  South Carolina was probably the #2 team at that time as they won the SEC in 1997 under Fogler.

Georgia lacks fan support.  Even when they win they don't draw well.   Yes, its close to Atlanta, but so is Auburn, Clemson, and South Carolina. 

At best this is a job where you might get to the sweet 16 every few years.  Georgia will never be a power in basketball.    

That is complete crap.  Just look at Florida.

That can happen at Georgia, easy.

[want2be]

The multimillion dollars ESPN paid for rights to the SEC should force all the teams to step up their basketball programs. Bama has set a new pace by paying an up and comer 2 mil......Now it appears that Georgia will try to follow suit............They need to get a coach who is a proven recruiter and remodel their arena.

Now we Hog fans have to wait and be patient for what ?

[hogfan064]

That is complete crap.  Just look at Florida.

That can happen at Georgia, easy.

It isn't complete crap.  In over 100 years of playing basketball Georgia has 1 conference title.  They only have 10 tourney appearances.  Stegeman is one of the worst facilities in the SEC.

Georgia isn't going to attract a big name, unless its a washed up big name with some issues.  It's possible they could end up like Florida and hit a homerun on a younger guy, but UGA is much further down today than where Florida was when Billy D. was hired at UF.   

[The Hogfather]

Here is some talent that has come/is coming from the state of Georgia, in just the past couple of years:

I'm not sure that Missouri is a better job than Georgia COULD BE.  The state of Georgia produces A TON of talent.  If he could keep them in-state and away from Georgia Tech, he could be very successful there.  Here are a couple of kids from Georgia:  Jodie Meeks, Aminu (5-star @ Wake), Derrick Favors (highly touted recruit going to GT), Tony Woods (5-star @ Wake), Ari Stewart (4-star going to Wake), Dwight Howard, 3 other 4-star players going to Georgia Tech next year, Javaris Crittenton, Lewis Clinch, Mike Mercer, Louis Williams (5-star), Jeremy Price (4-star, will be a good player for Georgia), just to name a few.  Georgia produces a lot of talent.  All they need is someone to keep it in the SEC and that coach will be very successful there.

I can't believe Bama is paying Grant $2 million.  I think he's going to be a great coach.  But, that is just stupid.

[want2be]

It isn't complete crap.  In over 100 years of playing basketball Georgia has 1 conference title.  They only have 10 tourney appearances.  Stegeman is one of the worst facilities in the SEC.

Georgia isn't going to attract a big name, unless its a washed up big name with some issues.  It's possible they could end up like Florida and hit a homerun on a younger guy, but UGA is much further down today than where Florida was when Billy D. was hired at UF.  

One big name washout that wants the job is B. Knight

[hogfan064]

The multimillion dollars ESPN paid for rights to the SEC should force all the teams to step up their basketball programs. Bama has set a new pace by paying an up and comer 2 mil......Now it appears that Georgia will try to follow suit............They need to get a coach who is a proven recruiter and remodel their arena.

Now we Hog fans have to wait and be patient for what ?

Bama basically went out and hired the same guy we did.  Grant was a Florida assistant who did well at a mid major school for a couple years.  Pel did the same.  The only difference is that Grant beat Duke in the tourney.   Pel inherited a South Alabama team in a mess and Grant inherited a VCU team that Capel had just left in good shape.

I'm not saying one is better than the other, right now its way to early to judge that.

[hogfan064]

One big name washout that wants the job is B. Knight

He wanted the South Carolina job last year too

[want2be]

Now that Kentucky has offered Cal 6.66 million per year.........the SEC is going to go crazy paying coaches like they did in football.

[rzrbackrob]

As long as the hogs are paying pel under 1mil they need to use that extra money to build a practice facility.
The price to keep Pel will go up after next year, or Arkansas will pay big money for a new coach.

[HotlantaHog]

I agree with all the comments that Georgia hasn't, doesn't and is unlikely to support basketball to the degree that a lot of other schools do.

That is just a fact. The UGa people pretty much as concede that is true. It will always be second tier to football.

Still, UGA has at least one asset. It is essentially part of the metro Atlanta market (UGA is the dominant school in the media market and maybe 60 miles away). Metro Atlanta is a huge area for recruiting and regularly generates top players. Someone who could tap into the market for talent could well turn UGA around.

[The Hogfather]

I agree with all the comments that Georgia hasn't, doesn't and is unlikely to support basketball to the degree that a lot of other schools do.

That is just a fact. The UGa people pretty much as concede that is true. It will always be second tier to football.

Still, UGA has at least one asset. It is essentially part of the metro Atlanta market (UGA is the dominant school in the media market and maybe 60 miles away). Metro Atlanta is a huge area for recruiting and regularly generates top players. Someone who could tap into the market for talent could well turn UGA around.

Florida is the same way.  I don't think the next coach there will be looking to stay there for an eternity. 

If they get someone with decent name recognition, they could keep the talent in-state and away from GT.  That would go a very long way in turning the program around.  And if they really are going to pay $2 million, that is a very good salary.  If I was a fairly young coach, I'd take that job in a heartbeat.

Expectations are low, pay is decently high, turnaround can most definitely happen due to a very, very good talent base in the state of Georgia.

[husker71]

Leonard Hamilton from FSU to Georgia.  Frank Martin from KSU to FSU. He was high school coach there but had to forfeit all games one year for recruiting Steve Blake and Udonis Haslem to school. And Dalonte Hill who recruited Beasley and Walker will take over at Kansas St.

[upperdeck_hawg]

georgia has lsu potential in that they could recruit a final four team every year within their state line. someone like tubby would be scary at georgia.

[blacksuit]

A current trend is traditional football powers (usually large public universities) muscling their way into basketball success. Look at Texas, Ohio State, USC, Florida, Oklahoma. Georgia could be in that group if they make the investment: coaching, facilities, institutional commitment to basketball.

[WMHawgfan]

I think they should offer calipari 7.5mil a year just to piss off the ky people and make them dig deeper. then go after anderson.

[Smokehouse]

Lots of coaching talent coming into the SEC. The conference is not going to be down for long.

[sirhog]

I think they should make a run at Gillespe. I think he is a good coach, just got in a bad situation. He could be the type of coach he wants and most of the Georgia fans wouldn't care either way. At KY his every move was scrutinized.

[Hawgusta]

I'd go with one of the Nutt boys.

[want2be]

     I am hearing that Mike Anderson may be in the running at Georgia

[Redbug]

I'd go convince Tim Floyd to leave USC and comeback tp his southern roots.....

[Mr. Porkleone]

In memphis now, fox affiliate just reported Georgia offered anderson 2Mil per year

[The Hogfather]

In memphis now, fox affiliate just reported Georgia offered anderson 2Mil per year

I would go in a heartbeat, if I was him.  Missouri will not pay him close to that, Georgia has more talent in their state, and his team at Missouri won't be nearly as good as they were this year.

[NateMan]

ESPN article says Anderson met with Georgia officials on Monday

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncb/news/story?id=4029709

[The Hogfather]

I'm telling you guys, a good coach can have success there.  Man, if they could get someone like Calipari at Georgia, they could win a National Championship there, fan support/nice arena, or not.

[hogfan064]

I'm telling you guys, a good coach can have success there.  Man, if they could get someone like Calipari at Georgia, they could win a National Championship there, fan support/nice arena, or not.

All you are looking at is instate talent.  That talent goes to the ACC though.  Atlanta is an ACC city when it comes to basketball, just look at the ACC tourney attendance compared to the SEC tourney attendance when the event is in Atlanta.

Sure a big name coach could do well there, but a big name coach won't take that job.  Why would they?  I live 2 hours from Athens and have many Bulldog friends. Most couldn't name a player on the basketball team.

If I'm a young coach at a mid major school then yeah, I would take this job.  But that could be said for any SEC school.  Why wouldn't a mid major coach want any SEC job? 

The UGA basketball job is like the MSU football job.  Plenty of instate talent, but due to lack of fan support, facilities, and tradition most of that talent goes elsewhere. 

[The Hogfather]

All you are looking at is instate talent.  That talent goes to the ACC though.  Atlanta is an ACC city when it comes to basketball, just look at the ACC tourney attendance compared to the SEC tourney attendance when the event is in Atlanta.

Sure a big name coach could do well there, but a big name coach won't take that job.  Why would they?  I live 2 hours from Athens and have many Bulldog friends. Most couldn't name a player on the basketball team.

If I'm a young coach at a mid major school then yeah, I would take this job.  But that could be said for any SEC school.  Why wouldn't a mid major coach want any SEC job? 

The UGA basketball job is like the MSU football job.  Plenty of instate talent, but due to lack of fan support, facilities, and tradition most of that talent goes elsewhere. 

All you are looking at is what is happening RIGHT NOW.  A good recruiter can change that in an instant.  ESPN is going to make the SEC the most powerful league in the nation, just like in football, in the next couple of years.  I will make a friendly wager with you that Georgia will be a more successful program than Georgia Tech over the next 10 years, assuming they sign a decent coach this year.

[hogfan064]

All you are looking at is what is happening RIGHT NOW.  A good recruiter can change that in an instant.  ESPN is going to make the SEC the most powerful league in the nation, just like in football, in the next couple of years.  I will make a friendly wager with you that Georgia will be a more successful program than Georgia Tech over the next 10 years, assuming they sign a decent coach this year.

They might be better than GT because Tech has much more competition in the ACC.  GT has been down for a few seasons now anyways. 

I'll make this wager with you.  In the next 10 years UT, UK, UF, and Vandy will all have more conference wins than Georgia.  I'd throw USC into that, but I think Horn is still a bit of an unknown. 

[hogfan064]

All you are looking at is what is happening RIGHT NOW. 

And I'm not looking at right now.  I'm looking at the history of Georgia's program and RIGHT NOW.  History says UGA won't get it done and won't be a top team in the SEC.   History says that even when UGA wins 20+ games, fans still don't show up.  During the Tubby days they struggled to get 7,000 fans in the stands for many games. 

[The Hogfather]

And I'm not looking at right now.  I'm looking at the history of Georgia's program and RIGHT NOW.  History says UGA won't get it done and won't be a top team in the SEC.   History says that even when UGA wins 20+ games, fans still don't show up.  During the Tubby days they struggled to get 7,000 fans in the stands for many games. 

I'm not talking about fans showing up.  I'm talking about success on the court.  Florida had a great run of success under Donovan and they still can't get people to show up 1 year removed from back-to-back NCs. 

Tubby showed what could be done at Georgia.  And I think a coach will be able to have even more success there in the near future, due to the upcoming TV deal with ESPN.

Georgia would be smart to get a great recruiter in there now, even if it costs them $2 million+.  They'll be able to have a great deal of success in the future, if they chose to do that.

[hogfan064]

I'm not talking about fans showing up.  I'm talking about success on the court.  Florida had a great run of success under Donovan and they still can't get people to show up 1 year removed from back-to-back NCs. 

Tubby showed what could be done at Georgia.  And I think a coach will be able to have even more success there in the near future, due to the upcoming TV deal with ESPN.

Georgia would be smart to get a great recruiter in there now, even if it costs them $2 million+.  They'll be able to have a great deal of success in the future, if they chose to do that.

In a 10 year span do you really think UGA will be one of the top 3 teams in the SEC East on average?  Sure those years where they might have some experience they could make the NCAA tourney, but most years they will be in the bottom 3.  If I'm a coach like Mike Anderson I don't take a job like that. I take a job like Memphis, Kentucky, Arkansas(if ever open), or maybe somewhere like Maryland.   If I'm a coach like Mike Davis(UAB), then I take a long hard look at it.

[The Hogfather]

In a 10 year span do you really think UGA will be one of the top 3 teams in the SEC East on average?  Sure those years where they might have some experience they could make the NCAA tourney, but most years they will be in the bottom 3.  If I'm a coach like Mike Anderson I don't take a job like that. I take a job like Memphis, Kentucky, Arkansas(if ever open), or maybe somewhere like Maryland.   If I'm a coach like Mike Davis(UAB), then I take a long hard look at it.

I've said more than once, Mike Anderson should take a job somewhere else now, if he wants to leave Missouri.  I don't care if it is for Georgia, Alabama, Kentucky, Memphis, UAB, Washington State, etc.  He will not duplicate the success he had this year with Missouri.  This is as high as he's going to get at Missouri, in my opinion.

I would jump at $2 million ($700,000 more/year than Missouri is proposing) and the Georgia talent base in a minute, if I was Mike Anderson.  But, I'm not, so we'll see....

[The Hogfather]

In a 10 year span do you really think UGA will be one of the top 3 teams in the SEC East on average?  Sure those years where they might have some experience they could make the NCAA tourney, but most years they will be in the bottom 3.  If I'm a coach like Mike Anderson I don't take a job like that. I take a job like Memphis, Kentucky, Arkansas(if ever open), or maybe somewhere like Maryland.   If I'm a coach like Mike Davis(UAB), then I take a long hard look at it.

I think Georgia can be right behind Kentucky, with the right coach, in terms of on-court success.  They can certainly be in the top 3 in the East most years.  As most know, I'm not sold on Pearl's ability to make Tennessee a continual power.  I think he just came in at the right time to Tennessee.  As you said, Horn is unproven (Western Kentucky is a traditional power and he had a pretty good nucleus on the team he inherited at USC).  Donovan is always going to have Florida in contention.  But, I think Georgia could spar with Florida for the 2-spot, if a coach can get the in-state talent to come to Georgia (and I think the right coach can).

[hogfan064]

I've said more than once, Mike Anderson should take a job somewhere else now, if he wants to leave Missouri.  I don't care if it is for Georgia, Alabama, Kentucky, Memphis, UAB, Washington State, etc.  He will not duplicate the success he had this year with Missouri.  This is as high as he's going to get at Missouri, in my opinion.

I would jump at $2 million ($700,000 more/year than Missouri is proposing) and the Georgia talent base in a minute, if I was Mike Anderson.  But, I'm not, so we'll see....

Anderson needs to hold out for better.  I agree, this might be the best he can do at Missouri, but I don't think he could ever do this good at Georgia.  Either the UK or Memphis job is about to be open, he should wait and see if either wants him.  If not he can win 20+ at Missouri next year and then look at what else is open next year.   Earlier when Maryland was struggling it was rumored they would contact Oliver Purnell or Mike Anderson.  Maryland is a fantastic job. 

[The Hogfather]

Anderson needs to hold out for better.  I agree, this might be the best he can do at Missouri, but I don't think he could ever do this good at Georgia.  Either the UK or Memphis job is about to be open, he should wait and see if either wants him.  If not he can win 20+ at Missouri next year and then look at what else is open next year.   Earlier when Maryland was struggling it was rumored they would contact Oliver Purnell or Mike Anderson.  Maryland is a fantastic job. 

Agree re:  Maryland.  If Memphis offers, I think I'd take that job over Georgia at the moment.  But, Georgia could be a very good job for someone.

[HeathWimp]

As long as the hogs are paying pel under 1mil they need to use that extra money to build a practice facility.
The price to keep Pel will go up after next year, or Arkansas will pay big money for a new coach.

You really think Pel's price will go up after we go 3-13 in SEC play next year?

[hogfan064]

Agree re:  Maryland.  If Memphis offers, I think I'd take that job over Georgia at the moment.  But, Georgia could be a very good job for someone.

I think Andy Kennedy could do some damage at UGA.  UGA is a better job than Ole Miss, which I think is the worst job in the SEC. 

[toozakpig]

If they get the right person, then GA could be a player in the league.

[want2be]

Gillipse wants to coach next year and I would bet he is in the running

Georga got up to 2.1 million on Anderson before he turned them down

[husker71]

Leonard Hamilton of Fla St to Georgia then Frank Martin of Kansas St to Fla ST and Dalonte Hill will take over Kansas St

[ur]

I think Andy Kennedy could do some damage at UGA.  UGA is a better job than Ole Miss, which I think is the worst job in the SEC. 

Then ol miss could get nolan. That would make things interesting. Dale and Nolan together again. I actually think Nolan would be successful in college basketball today because it is so watered down. All the good players are in the NBA. Not anything like it used to be.