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Rivals Rankings - How do they work?

Started by WoodyHog, January 23, 2015, 11:11:14 am

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WoodyHog

Does anyone understand how the Rival's team rankings work?  I can't figure it out.

http://sports.yahoo.com/footballrecruiting/football/recruiting/teamrank/2015/all/all

We are currently ranked #20 behind Oregon (17) who has essentially an identical class but with a lower average rating.  Still they have more cumulative points than we do.

Likewise, Texas A&M has a lower average rating than us, but is ranked (#9).  They have 4 more commitments.

Can anyone enlighten me?  Its just bugging me because it doesn't seem to make sense.

WooPig90

Im not exactly sure on the whole process, but I know they count your 20 best committed prospects. In our case we have 19 so we are getting a 0 in 1 spot.

 

Pickwick Hog

Cumulative points = number of paid membership subscriptions per site x .025

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Quote from: Pickwick Hog on January 23, 2015, 11:20:54 am
Cumulative points = number of paid membership prescriptions per site x .025

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For every 100,000 subscription your get a .05 bump in your multiplier too. 

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Basically they pick between bama tOSU USC and FlaSt for the number 1 spot then anything after that they pick names out of a hat I believe.

jry04

Quote from: WooPig90 on January 23, 2015, 11:20:21 am
Im not exactly sure on the whole process, but I know they count your 20 best committed prospects. In our case we have 19 so we are getting a 0 in 1 spot.
I believe it is 25, not 20.

Recruits are basically assigned a point value. You get x amount for a top 200 or top 100 etc. I do not know the tiers for getting additional points, but where you rank in the class is relative to how many points your team gets for your commitment.

WooPig90

Quote from: jry04 on January 23, 2015, 11:36:59 am
I believe it is 25, not 20.

Recruits are basically assigned a point value. You get x amount for a top 200 or top 100 etc. I do not know the tiers for getting additional points, but where you rank in the class is relative to how many points your team gets for your commitment.

"only the top 20 commitments in each class are considered in the main variable of the formula."
Nope its 20, and they give a bonus to the player if they are in the Rivals top250

Bubba's Bruisers

Quote from: WooPig90 on January 23, 2015, 11:41:35 am
"only the top 20 commitments in each class are considered in the main variable of the formula."
Nope its 20, and they give a bonus to the player if they are in the Rivals top250

Correct, and it's the bonus stuff that puts programs like OR ahead of us right now.
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Quote from: WoodyHog on January 23, 2015, 11:11:14 am
Does anyone understand how the Rival's team rankings work?  I can't figure it out.

http://sports.yahoo.com/footballrecruiting/football/recruiting/teamrank/2015/all/all

We are currently ranked #20 behind Oregon (17) who has essentially an identical class but with a lower average rating.  Still they have more cumulative points than we do.

Likewise, Texas A&M has a lower average rating than us, but is ranked (#9).  They have 4 more commitments.

Can anyone enlighten me?  Its just bugging me because it doesn't seem to make sense.

It's one of the mysteries of life. Some people have a vague idea, but noone really knows how or why  any specific recruit is graded the way he is.

Music City Hog

Here you go:



What is the formula?

Rivals Rating points + Rivals250 Bonus Points = Total Points

Rivals Rating (RR) Scale (Top 20 rated commitments)

(Rivals Rating = Points)

6.1 = 150 points
6.0 = 135 points
5.9 = 120 points
5.8 = 105 points
5.7 = 90 points
5.6 = 75 points
5.5 = 60 points
5.4 = 45 points
5.3 = 30 points
5.2 = 15 points

*Prospects without an assigned rating will count for no points. All FBS committed prospects will have a rating once evaluated and rankings are updated.

Rivals 250 Bonus Scale (all commitments)

#1= 100 points
#2= 83 points
#3= 82 points
#4= 81 points
#5= 80 points
#6= 76 points
#7= 75 points
#8= 74 points
#9= 73 points
#10= 72 points
#11= 69 points
#12= 68 points
#13= 67 points
#14= 66 points
#15= 65 points
#16= 64 points
#17= 63 points
#18= 62 points
#19= 61 points
#20= 60 points
#21= 59 points
#22= 58 points
#23= 57 points
#24= 56 points
#25= 55 points

#26-30= 53 points
#31-35= 51 points
#36-40= 49 points
#41-45= 47 points
#46-50= 45 points
#51-55= 43 points
#56-60= 41 points

#61-65= 40 points
#66-70= 39 points
#71-75= 38 points
#76-80= 37 points
#81-85= 36 points
#86-90= 35 points
#91-95= 34 points
#96-100= 33 points

#101-105= 32 points
#106-110= 31 points
#111-115= 30 points
#116-120= 29 points
#121-125= 28 points
#126-130= 27 points
#131-135= 26 points
#136-140= 25 points
#141-145= 24 points
#146-150= 23 points
#151-155= 22 points
#156-160= 21 points
#161-165= 20 points
#166-170= 19 points
#171-175= 18 points
#176-180= 17 points
#181-185= 16 points
#186-190= 15 points
#191-195= 14 points
#196-200= 13 points
#201-205= 12 points
#206-210= 11 points
#211-215= 10 points
#216-220= 9 points
#221-225= 8 points
#226-230= 7 points
#231-235= 6 points
#236-240= 5 points
#241-245= 4 points
#246-250= 3 points

Why did Rivals.com change the rankings formula?

We wanted a formula that was easy for everyone to use, most importantly our subscribers!

The past formula, though it worked as intended, was very complex, and didn't provide our subscribers a simple way of calculating their team's point totals, and class ranking, if a certain prospect committed to their school.

So starting with the class of 2013, we made some changes, using the point scales above.

Any tips on how to use the new formula?

To calculate the Rivals Rating points, go to your team's commitment list, sort the list by Rivals Rating, starting with the highest value. Then, sum up the points for the top 20 commitments using the scale above.

To calculate the Rivals250 bonus points, go to the Rivals250 page. You can also sort this list by "school" to calculate your team's Rivals250 bonus points, using the scale above.

What are the similarities between the new formula and the old formula?

One major similarity- only the top 20 commitments in each class are considered in the main variable of the formula. Both have bonuses for players ranked nationally, but the new formula accounts for the Rivals250. The old formula had bonuses for the Rivals100.

What is different about the new formula?

Unlike the old formula, the new formula uses a prospect's Rivals Rating (RR), not the prospect's star rating, as the key factor in the formula to compute the point totals.

The main part of the formula is now a point scale reflecting the average Rivals Rating of a team's top 20 signees.

The second part of the formula is a bonus point scale for prospects ranked in the Rivals250. This applies to all commitments in a team's class.

JUCO and Prep School national rankings do not have bonuses. Only those prospect's RR rating will be considered in the point calculation.

Note: The new formula will apply to the class of 2013 and beyond. Past team rankings will remain in place, according to the previous formula

redeye

Good stuff MCH!

It's nice to see that Rivals no longer uses their opinion on how well your class meets it's needs, as I know they did many years ago.  That's always bothered me, since they can't possibly know every team's needs well.