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Bowl renovations

Started by csonka39, January 04, 2009, 12:31:12 pm

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csonka39

The bowl system needs to be renovated.  Since we have no playoffs.

What suggestions do we have?

I'll start it off with a few suggestions, you take it from there.

1. 7 wins mandatory to play in a bowl.
2. wins against D-1AA or FCS  do not count. in fact, scheduling FCS should be outlawed.


rzrbaxfan

A 7 win requirement would eliminate 3-5 lower bowls.  Look at the lineup this year and see how many bowls had 6 wins teams.  I'm not saying that is a bad thing, just pointing that out.

 

rzrbackrob

Keep the bowls and add more if financially feasalble and 6-6 teams availible

just please let us see a 16 team playoff
Good is the enemy of great

kgr

Eliminate MANDATORY conference tie-ins.  If a Pac 10 team could play for the NC if released from the contract with the rose bowl, then release them and let them play. 

I agree that 7 wins should be required.  6 wins was ok when there were 11 games because that meant you had a winning record.  6-6 is mediocre.  Why be rewarded for that. 

Also eliminate the automatic "they deserve" list.  After the 3rd loss, the NBC announcers say, well I guess that eliminates ND from the NC hunt.  USC~west, always is supposed to be in the NC game, just ask Petey boy and his syncopate Brent Mushmouth. 

Also, make the Big 11 go to a league champ. game as well as the Pac 10. 

Why does OSU have a crummy team and get so well treated?
What have we learned in 2,064 years?

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Cicero   - 55 BC

So,   evidently nothing.

HogBreath

Quote from: kgr on January 04, 2009, 12:48:05 pm
Eliminate MANDATORY conference tie-ins.  If a Pac 10 team could play for the NC if released from the contract with the rose bowl, then release them and let them play. 

I agree that 7 wins should be required.  6 wins was ok when there were 11 games because that meant you had a winning record.  6-6 is mediocre.  Why be rewarded for that. 

Also eliminate the automatic "they deserve" list.  After the 3rd loss, the NBC announcers say, well I guess that eliminates ND from the NC hunt.  USC~west, always is supposed to be in the NC game, just ask Petey boy and his syncopate Brent Mushmouth. 

Also, make the Big 11 go to a league champ. game as well as the Pac 10. 

Why does OSU have a crummy team and get so well treated?
Yeah, like the Outback Bowl where 8-4 Iowa shellacked 7-5 South Carolina, whata crock, put those teams in the Texas eagle Bowl, and let TCU & Boise play in the Outback.  These conference tie ins are ruining things in many ways.

I'm 47, and since I was about 6, I've spent New Years day afternoons watching USC beat the bejibbers out of either Ohio State or Michigan, and now Penn State.  Every year, the Big 10 rep is 10-1 or 12-0 or whatever, then proceed to get the stuffing stomped out of them.  Enough already!
I said...LSU has often been an overrated team.

That ignoramus Draconian Sanctions said..if we're overrated, why are we ranked higher than you are?

csonka39

I would like to eliminate some bowls maybe go back to 25 bowls.

With 12 games going to 7 wins would eliminate 13 eligible teams of which 3 didn't go to a bowl.

That would eliminate 5 bowls.

I'm guessing eliminating the FCS teams would eliminate 10 more teams(5 bowls).

Really how many bowls do you watch?

Conference alignments are important to smaller bowls to guarantee a good ticket sales, keeping regional teams that fans will follow. 

For instance, the Independence bowl sells about 90-95% of its tickets with a SEC/Big 12 matchup,
without it they only sell about 60-70%(exceptions are when a Louisiana school is playing).

kgr

You are right about the smaller bowls and conference, i was talking about the rose, etc.
What have we learned in 2,064 years?

"The budget should be balanced, the Treasury should be refilled, public debt should be reduced, the arrogance of officialdom should be tempered and controlled, and the assistance to foreign lands should be curtailed lest Rome become bankrupt. People must again learn to
work,  instead of living on public assistance."
                                                               -
Cicero   - 55 BC

So,   evidently nothing.

rmsee

Keep the bowls and add more if financially feasalble and 6-6 teams availible

just please let us see a 16 team playoff

+1

Eggcellent

Quote from: rmsee on January 04, 2009, 08:09:45 pm
Keep the bowls and add more if financially feasalble and 6-6 teams availible

just please let us see a 16 team playoff

+1

You want more bowls?  At one time, being bowl bound meant something. 

Now its means you scheduled patsies and won 2 conference games.

Keep celebrating mediocrity, rewards for everyone. Why not have 61 bowls and let team #121 play twice? They need the practice.

Eggcellent

Quote from: kgr on January 04, 2009, 05:40:18 pm
You are right about the smaller bowls and conference, i was talking about the rose, etc.

I agree, but the Rose never-ever wants a non-BCS team.

So I don't see that happening.

Hoggish1

January 05, 2009, 09:31:20 am #10 Last Edit: January 05, 2009, 09:33:16 am by Hoggish1
I like the 7-5 as mandatory because teams that get a bowl bid at 6-6 run the chance of ending with a losing record with a bowl loss. It just doesn't seem right to go to a bowl but end up with a possible losing record at 6-7.  That is pure BS, when it happens!

Short of a plus one, I think all conferences that don't have a championship game should be forced to have every team play every other team in the conference.  By example, the Big 10 (11) either pick up another team and go to a Championship game or play 10 conference games with only one cupcake OOC game.  In that way there is always a true champion that gets a  BCS bid.

DEVIL DOG HOG

Quote from: kgr on January 04, 2009, 12:48:05 pm
Eliminate MANDATORY conference tie-ins.  If a Pac 10 team could play for the NC if released from the contract with the rose bowl, then release them and let them play. 

I agree that 7 wins should be required.  6 wins was ok when there were 11 games because that meant you had a winning record.  6-6 is mediocre.  Why be rewarded for that. 

Also eliminate the automatic "they deserve" list.  After the 3rd loss, the NBC announcers say, well I guess that eliminates ND from the NC hunt.  USC~west, always is supposed to be in the NC game, just ask Petey boy and his syncopate Brent Mushmouth. 

Also, make the Big 11 go to a league champ. game as well as the Pac 10. 

Why does OSU have a crummy team and get so well treated?
The Rose Bowl will let a team go to the BCS championship game if invited.

The PAC 10 is the only conference to play a round robin schedule, no need for a so called championship game. All conferences need to play a round robin schuedle. Championship games are a joke when an undefeated team can lose to a team with one loss and lose there crown.
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VoR

1 thing I would love to see changed. Require to be a host city that the avg temp at kickoff be 70 degrees or better if daylight kickoff, 65 degrees or better if night time kickoff. Who the hell wants to spend a couple grand for tickets, motel, transportation to freeze to death in a Gawd forsaken city such as Toronto, Detroit, Boise.

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Blond Chick "Politically correct".

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TexHog188

I think we should not keep score.  Everybody is a winner. :puke:
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ErieHog

Quote from: Eggcellent on January 05, 2009, 09:20:57 am
You want more bowls?  At one time, being bowl bound meant something. 

Now its means you scheduled patsies and won 2 conference games.

Keep celebrating mediocrity, rewards for everyone. Why not have 61 bowls and let team #121 play twice? They need the practice.

Going to a bowl never meant anything; bowls are and always have been exhibitions-- the sports equivalent of masturbation.
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Boog41

I like a lot of the suggestions.

I would also require that any BCS conference champion be required to have no more than two losses to go to one of the "big five" bowl games. I'm sick of seeing four 3-4 loss teams in the Orange bowl.

Amen on making Big 10 / Pac 10 have a championship game also.