Thoughts on Paul Rhoads recruiting abilities

[trphog]

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[The_Bionic_Pig]

Sixty-one percent of ISU signees under coach Paul Rhoads are from California, Florida or Texas. - See more at: http://m.amestrib.com/sports/football-how-isu-combats-one-its-biggest-recruiting-battles-getting-recruits-campus#sthash.xlw0gGhT.dpuf

[OLDHOG]

Well, that's a good start, yes?

[trphog]

Sixty-one percent of ISU signees under coach Paul Rhoads are from California, Florida or Texas. - See more at: http://m.amestrib.com/sports/football-how-isu-combats-one-its-biggest-recruiting-battles-getting-recruits-campus#sthash.xlw0gGhT.dpuf

Thanks! I like it!

[jackflash]

If he can improve our recruiting in Texas what not to like

[Vantage 8 dude]

I think it's a potential "home run" hire. Not only was the guy a relatively successful HC at a place not normally noted for a ton of really good teams, he's apparently pretty adept at pulling in kids from states that have large pools of recruits. Along with Smith hitting La. hard and other staff members concentrating on Texas and other areas, I think this gives us a much boosted "shot in the arm" when it comes to high quality kids. This is an extremely interesting hire. WPS!!! :razorback: :razorback: :razorback:

BTW at least on the surface, if one doesn't think this is a HUGE step up from Jennings then I don't think they know too darn much about football.

[FraggleHog]

Sixty-one percent of ISU signees under coach Paul Rhoads are from California, Florida or Texas. - See more at: http://m.amestrib.com/sports/football-how-isu-combats-one-its-biggest-recruiting-battles-getting-recruits-campus#sthash.xlw0gGhT.dpuf

Thanks for the link. I posted it in MMQB as people were asking about recruiting.

[Mike_e]

It might be a good idea to team him up with coach Smith and introduce him around in Louisiana.

Not only players but HS coaches would probably like to meet him.  Instant relationships and 4 lane freeway to Fayetteville.

[thefisher]

Besides the aforementioned ability to draw kids from talent rich states one other thing impresses me.  A guy who can draw enough talent to Iowa State .... have you been to Ames, Iowa ..... and win consistently has GOT to be aces!

[nwahogfan1]

Sixty-one percent of ISU signees under coach Paul Rhoads are from California, Florida or Texas. - See more at: http://m.amestrib.com/sports/football-how-isu-combats-one-its-biggest-recruiting-battles-getting-recruits-campus#sthash.xlw0gGhT.dpuf

If Rhoads comes in with the attitude that he will at Arkansas for a while and really wants to build something special here then he will do very well. 

[RME]

Besides the aforementioned ability to draw kids from talent rich states one other thing impresses me.  A guy who can draw enough talent to Iowa State .... have you been to Ames, Iowa ..... and win consistently has GOT to be aces!

Absolutely love the hire. But, as a head coach you cannot say he won consistently. That doesn't mean he won't be a phenomenal position coach/coordinator/recruiter. With the amount of coordinator experience he has, this hire is for sure a home run, but you can't say he won consistently at Iowa State.

Hopefully this is the piece we need to get those big-time secondary recruits.

[The real Hogules]

As has been the case in most other instances, CBB hired better than what he lost.
Good coach and good recruiter.
I like this hire a lot!

[Vantage 8 dude]

If Rhoads comes in with the attitude that he will at Arkansas for a while and really wants to build something special here then he will do very well.

I seriously doubt that CBB would have hired the man if he DIDN'T have that exact purpose and approach in mind.

[JIHawg]

He seems really sharp. Why did he leave ISU?

[PorkRinds]

He seems really sharp. Why did he leave ISU?

Fired.

[Wildhog]

Anybody know the last time he was actually out on the road recruiting?  At the hospital and can't really do much research.

[JIHawg]

Weren't we going against ISU for a senior graduated transfer, possibly the running back from Michigan, Greene?

[The_Hog_Father]

Anybody know the last time he was actually out on the road recruiting?  At the hospital and can't really do much research.

Good luck. Hope for 10 fingers, 10 toes. Congrats.

[Wildhog]

Good luck. Hope for 10 fingers, 10 toes. Congrats.

Thanks man.

[carolinahogger]

Absolutely love the hire. But, as a head coach you cannot say he won consistently. That doesn't mean he won't be a phenomenal position coach/coordinator/recruiter. With the amount of coordinator experience he has, this hire is for sure a home run, but you can't say he won consistently at Iowa State.

That is very true, but you have to consider that it was Iowa State.  If a coach had a 32-55 record at Miami or Texas then his coaching record is a train wreck.  If he does that at Kansas, or Iowa State then the guy might actually be pretty good.

This touches my opinion that the greatest football head coach of our time is...(drum roll) Bill Snyder.

[Mike_e]

Anybody know the last time he was actually out on the road recruiting?  At the hospital and can't really do much research.

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Best to you and/or yours.

Ah, I see now.

Here's to new life and many happy days.

[The_Hog_Father]

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Best to you and/or yours.

Wildhog and Mrs. Wildhog are having a piglet. 🐖🐗😉👍🏻

[ricepig]

Anybody know the last time he was actually out on the road recruiting?  At the hospital and can't really do much research.

Dude, get your priorities right!! We're counting on your detailed analysis of who he signed, when, and where. Outside of that, I'm sure he's been on the road as the HC for the last 7 years, as a position coach, been awhile.

Oh, good luck and is Buster Posey there to catch?

[Wildhog]

Wildhog and Mrs. Wildhog are having a piglet. 🐖🐗😉👍🏻

WildChild

[RME]

That is very true, but you have to consider that it was Iowa State.  If a coach had a 32-55 record at Miami or Texas then his coaching record is a train wreck.  If he does that at Kansas, or Iowa State then the guy might actually be pretty good.

This touches my opinion that the greatest football head coach of our time is...(drum roll) Bill Snyder.

Definitely agree with you on that. No objection from me there. I've just seen a couple different posts on here saying something to the extent of how Rhoads "won consistently" at Iowa State and that's just not true.

As I said earlier though, not taking anything away from his ability as a position coach/coordinator/recruiter. Some guys just have a tough time being a head coach, but are phenomenal assistants.

[The_Hog_Father]

WildChild

Damn it... I should have put more thought into that. +1 :razorback:

[Razorfox]

That is very true, but you have to consider that it was Iowa State.  If a coach had a 32-55 record at Miami or Texas then his coaching record is a train wreck.  If he does that at Kansas, or Iowa State then the guy might actually be pretty good.

This touches my opinion that the greatest football head coach of our time is...(drum roll) Bill Snyder.

Agreed on Snyder.  Had he been at a major school, Nick Saban might just be another good coach. 

[PorkRinds]

Anybody know the last time he was actually out on the road recruiting?  At the hospital and can't really do much research.

As a head coach, I'm not sure there is going to be much info out there about his recruiting.  Think about CBB.  While there may be some articles, there's not going to be a list of guys he snagged, because he wouldn't be the lead recruiter on them.  The article posted above mentions HOW he recruited and that he was more successful than others at Iowa State, but not many specifics.  It did say that 61% of the ISU roster under Rhoads came from TX, CA, and FL.  So he at least has some ties in those areas.

[Wildhog]

As a head coach, I'm not sure there is going to be much info out there about his recruiting.  Think about CBB.  While there may be some articles, there's not going to be a list of guys he snagged, because he wouldn't be the lead recruiter on them.  The article posted above mentions HOW he recruited and that he was more successful than others at Iowa State, but not many specifics.  It did say that 61% of the ISU roster under Rhoads came from TX, CA, and FL.  So he at least has some ties in those areas.

His assistants did, at least. 

He's a great coach.  On the surface, this is a very impressive hire.  Just wish we knew more about his recruiting.  However, I'm sure CBB has made his expectations clear.

[Hogberry Snortcake]

All I get from my Iowa friends is that he's a stand-up guy, and they loved him (not enough, evidently, to keep him). 

[PorkRinds]

His assistants did, at least. 

He's a great coach.  On the surface, this is a very impressive hire.  Just wish we knew more about his recruiting.  However, I'm sure CBB has made his expectations clear.

I've read a couple of articles about it. Honestly, the recruiting they did wasn't very good.  But they were at Iowa state.  Here's an article about how his recruiting at Iowa State suffered a bit because of his strategy there.

http://www.footballstudyhall.com/2015/12/3/9836626/can-matt-campbell-build-a-new-iowa-state-cyclones-identity

They make solid points about how going into areas like TX, FL, and CA and convincing a kid to come to...Iowa is a hard sell.  He ended up having to go to the JUCO ranks, specifically for DL guys.  It basically said he messed up by using the same strategy everyone else used, without realizing that strategy wasn't good for Iowa State.  That said, that is our EXACT strategy and it seems to work decently for us, so he should be a decent fit recruiting wise.  To me, if you can get this guy to be a position coach, you do it and cross your fingers that he can do work recruiting.

[JIHawg]

Good luck. Hope for 10 fingers, 10 toes. Congrats.

What he said.  Congrats!

[FraggleHog]

All I get from my Iowa friends is that he's a stand-up guy, and they loved him (not enough, evidently, to keep him).

Same here... Verbatim from a Iowa St. alum:

(after I text him saying we hired Rhoads)"Nice. He is a passionate guy. Really good guy. He will be a positive impact on the team, head coaching just wasn't his thing, but he was a great coordinator. Incredible motivator and players love to play for him"

[thefisher]

Absolutely love the hire. But, as a head coach you cannot say he won consistently. That doesn't mean he won't be a phenomenal position coach/coordinator/recruiter. With the amount of coordinator experience he has, this hire is for sure a home run, but you can't say he won consistently at Iowa State.

Hopefully this is the piece we need to get those big-time secondary recruits.

That's a fair assessment. However, he did make three bowl games in a four year span. Considering it was at Iowa State I have to call that success.

[HogNDas]

GREAT Hire...not sure how CBB does it, but keeps pulling the "rabbit outta the hat" with his hires....

[Tim Harris]

I was looking forward to WildHog giving us a break down of is recruiting ability with a ranking somewhere between Trooper Taylor and Joel Thomas.

[redeye]

I'll say this much about him.  We've recruited against Iowa State a few times while he was there and I was always surprised by how well Iowa State recruited.  I know there were players that chose ISU over Arkansas while Petrino was here and I think there have been some under Bielema, too.  I'm not saying that ISU recruited great, but just that they were more competition then I remember them ever being in the past.

Btw, he was the coach at ISU when they beat #2 Oklahoma State in 2011.  If not for that, It would've been LSU vs. Oklahoma State in the BCS title game and Alabama would have one less national championship.

[MS_HogFan]

I was looking forward to WildHog giving us a break down of is recruiting ability with a ranking somewhere between Trooper Taylor and Joel Thomas.

Hopefully he falls closer to Taylor and Thomas...

[prattville pig]

HUGE, HUGE hire!!

[redeye]

Yeah, but Bammers would try to claim it anyway.

Well, they also thought Bielema was trying to pick a fight with one of their players, so they're not exactly a rational bunch.

[Pork Twain]

WildChild

Hope you have a healthy baby that cries nonstop for the first three years

[ricepig]

Hope you have a healthy baby that cries nonstop for the first three years

Be just like Dad...

[MS_HogFan]

Be just like Dad...

Well played

[southarkhog06]

Hope you have a healthy baby that cries nonstop for the first three years

only when we burn someones redshirt

[Wildhog]

Hope you have a healthy baby that cries nonstop for the first three years

Not sure what I ever did to you, but she's been an angel. 

[PorkRinds]

You guys home yet, WH?

[Wildhog]

You guys home yet, WH?

Get to leave tomorrow morning.  The baby has to have 48 hours of antibiotics since labor went so long after the water broke.

[PorkRinds]

Get to leave tomorrow morning.  The baby has to have 48 hours of antibiotics since labor went so long after the water broke.

Right.  Man, I'm glad you guys made it and everyone is ok. My wife delivers babies for a living, so at like 30 hours of labor I was starting to get a bit nervous for you! 

[Wildhog]

Right.  Man, I'm glad you guys made it and everyone is ok. My wife delivers babies for a living, so at like 30 hours of labor I was starting to get a bit nervous for you! 

They were very close to calling for a c-section. 

[PorkRinds]

They were very close to calling for a c-section.

When I was talking to my wife about it and told her it'd been so long she said it wasn't all that unusual for a first time mom, but that she would be lucky if she didn't end up with a section.  So you guys got lucky.  Congrats dude.  You're going to love being a dad.