Firing Jeff Long: Be careful what you wish for ...

[Salted Pork]

In everyone's rush to ship CBB out of Fayetteville, a lot of posters here seem to want Jeff to go with Bret. Why?

Pros:
- The athletic department is financially sound with world class facilities
- All programs, except for football, are headed in the right direction and are winning
- His recent new hires in volleyball and softball have been slam dunks, and Coach Neighbors for women's hoops will probably be successful as well
- Scandal free athletic department

Cons:
- He made a mistake hiring Jimmy Dykes
- He shouldn't have extended Bielema after the 2014 season with that raise and buyout

Anything else? Am I missing anything here? Jeff Long is an ATHLETIC director, not a FOOTBALL director. Bret will be let go as soon as after Thanksgiving and probably as late as 2018 and his replacement will (hopefully) right the football ship.

Waiting for the "carpetbagger" argument which is about the stupidest, most xenophobic defense ever. And oh, the university, NOT ATHLETICS, signed the Pepsi contract.

I don't think anyone here knows what a BAD AD is truly like and once we get "one of those," we'll be wishing we never threw the baby out with the bathwater.

[rwspear]

cbp

[DeltaBoy]

In everyone's rush to ship CBB out of Fayetteville, a lot of posters here seem to want Jeff to go with Bret. Why?

Pros:
- The athletic department is financially sound with world class facilities
- All programs, except for football, are headed in the right direction and are winning
- His recent new hires in volleyball and softball have been slam dunks, and Coach Neighbors for women's hoops will probably be successful as well
- Scandal free athletic department

Cons:
- He made a mistake hiring Jimmy Dykes
- He shouldn't have extended Bielema after the 2014 season with that raise and buyout

Anything else? Am I missing anything here? Jeff Long is an ATHLETIC director, not a FOOTBALL director. Bret will be let go as soon as after Thanksgiving and probably as late as 2018 and his replacement will (hopefully) right the football ship.

Waiting for the "carpetbagger" argument which is about the stupidest, most xenophobic defense ever. And oh, the university, NOT ATHLETICS, signed the Pepsi contract.

I don't think anyone here knows what a BAD AD is truly like and once we get "one of those," we'll be wishing we never threw the baby out with the bathwater.

Go away Jeff screwed up several hires and our football program in the ditch!

[Salted Pork]

cbp

... who hired someone he was sleeping with ahead of other qualified candidates, crashed his motorcycle and then lied about it on national TV.

Try again.

[Salted Pork]

Go away Jeff screwed up several hires and our football program in the ditch!

Who else other than Dykes? In 2012, most of HV was thrilled about CBB's hire.

If you can predict how things would turn out in 5 years, you'll be rich playing the stock market and not posting on HV.

[DeltaBoy]

You either Jeff Long or a staff member of his office,
Tickets are over priced for the product on the field!
Concessions are a joke!
Money 💰 is not everything!

[hoggin]

In everyone's rush to ship CBB out of Fayetteville, a lot of posters here seem to want Jeff to go with Bret. Why?

Pros:
- The athletic department is financially sound with world class facilities
- All programs, except for football, are headed in the right direction and are winning
- His recent new hires in volleyball and softball have been slam dunks, and Coach Neighbors for women's hoops will probably be successful as well
- Scandal free athletic department

Cons:
- He made a mistake hiring Jimmy Dykes
- He shouldn't have extended Bielema after the 2014 season with that raise and buyout

Anything else? Am I missing anything here? Jeff Long is an ATHLETIC director, not a FOOTBALL director. Bret will be let go as soon as after Thanksgiving and probably as late as 2018 and his replacement will (hopefully) right the football ship.

Waiting for the "carpetbagger" argument which is about the stupidest, most xenophobic defense ever. And oh, the university, NOT ATHLETICS, signed the Pepsi contract.

I don't think anyone here knows what a BAD AD is truly like and once we get "one of those," we'll be wishing we never threw the baby out with the bathwater.

He did fine hiring coach bucknam for T&F, but royally screwed up his handling of McDonnell.  CJM was NOT ready to retire, and JL royally screwed that up!

[snoblind]

Missing several things and carpet bagger has nothing to do with it.  Neither does the specific record football record. 

[porkrindjimmy]

Once again.....his last 3 football hires have been disasters. Remember, many folks tell us here that Bobby Petrino was a scumbag. Said scumbag crashed his scooter and embarrassed us...

Then he hired Johnelle, said person of financial troubles, wrote a contract with wording that allowed Johnelle to skirt bankruptcy taking his coin. Johnelle drives a good football team straight off the highway, tells us it was Alabama's bus and tells us to smile.

Then he hires Bret. Jaw jacker, bisquit eater and slurper of Tito's fine vodka. and he blows the whole joint up.

When your last 3 hires have been disasters, eventually they come calling for you.

PRJ

[hogman64]

Who else other than Dykes? In 2012, most of HV was thrilled about CBB's hire.

If you can predict how things would turn out in 5 years, you'll be rich playing the stock market and not posting on HV.

what difference does it make if most of HV was thrilled with the BB hire.. are we all splitting Long's salary evenly?  he isn't paid  to hire the guy we think is good, he is paid to do his research and hire the guy who is the right fit for our team.  BB turns out to be a horrible fit for Arkansas and that is on Long  doesn't matter how HV felt about... that reasoning makes no sense.

[soso]

Lack of attention to detail.

[Porkchop#1]

In everyone's rush to ship CBB out of Fayetteville, a lot of posters here seem to want Jeff to go with Bret. Why?

Pros:
- The athletic department is financially sound with world class facilities
- All programs, except for football, are headed in the right direction and are winning
- His recent new hires in volleyball and softball have been slam dunks, and Coach Neighbors for women's hoops will probably be successful as well
- Scandal free athletic department

Cons:
- He made a mistake hiring Jimmy Dykes
- He shouldn't have extended Bielema after the 2014 season with that raise and buyout

Anything else? Am I missing anything here? Jeff Long is an ATHLETIC director, not a FOOTBALL director. Bret will be let go as soon as after Thanksgiving and probably as late as 2018 and his replacement will (hopefully) right the football ship.

Waiting for the "carpetbagger" argument which is about the stupidest, most xenophobic defense ever. And oh, the university, NOT ATHLETICS, signed the Pepsi contract.

I don't think anyone here knows what a BAD AD is truly like and once we get "one of those," we'll be wishing we never threw the baby out with the bathwater.

His doofus handling of Jessica gate should go under the cons list, there nits.

[Hog Pharm]

In everyone's rush to ship CBB out of Fayetteville, a lot of posters here seem to want Jeff to go with Bret. Why?

Pros:
- The athletic department is financially sound with world class facilities
- All programs, except for football, are headed in the right direction and are winning
- His recent new hires in volleyball and softball have been slam dunks, and Coach Neighbors for women's hoops will probably be successful as well
- Scandal free athletic department

Cons:
- He made a mistake hiring Jimmy Dykes
- He shouldn't have extended Bielema after the 2014 season with that raise and buyout

Anything else? Am I missing anything here? Jeff Long is an ATHLETIC director, not a FOOTBALL director. Bret will be let go as soon as after Thanksgiving and probably as late as 2018 and his replacement will (hopefully) right the football ship.

Waiting for the "carpetbagger" argument which is about the stupidest, most xenophobic defense ever. And oh, the university, NOT ATHLETICS, signed the Pepsi contract.

I don't think anyone here knows what a BAD AD is truly like and once we get "one of those," we'll be wishing we never threw the baby out with the bathwater.

Good post. I don't get the scorched earth mentality.

[hobhog]

Anyone else get the feeling Tommy Tuberville is campaigning for the AD job? Auburn friend of mine says he may replace Jacobs at AU.....

[Porkchop#1]

... who hired someone he was sleeping with ahead of other qualified candidates, crashed his motorcycle and then lied about it on national TV.

Try again.

Pssssttt...wise AD Long handles the hiring.

[HogInThaGrove]

Pssssttt...wise AD Long handles the hiring.

EXACTLY. Long tossed BP way under the bus to protect himself and then acted like he was so hurt by the situation. Everybody in the athletic dept knew what was going on, and JL STILL ok'd the hiring of Dorrel.  The buck starts and stops with the guy in charge. You can't be "Mr All-Powerful AD" when you want to and then play "Mr Clueless" and act like you had no idea she was even on staff. GTFOH with that shiz. Long is an opportunist and saw an opportunity to make sure HE didn't get sued and also to make himself look like a saint. F that dude. 

Also, miserable hires in Softball and Volleyball that have both had to be replaced in addition to the clusterfugs that are Johnelle and Bert and the almost hiring of Tommy Bowden and Jim Grobe.

[HoggieStyle]

Get this crap out of here. And take Long with it.

[ShadowHawg]

Frank Broyles last 15 years were pretty sorry for an AD

[Elvis P Hogg]

Honest question what do we have to lose letting long go?
Softball?volleyball?
Want to see an Arkansas man running Ar

[Pork Twain]

You are wasting your breath with this group.  I have found it easier to just copy and paste this info, so they can ignore it.

There is no logic behind it.  All they have is one bad contract that looked good at the beginning and the fact that he is not from Arkansas.  After listening to people on here for so many years, I am thankful he is from outside the state.  Way too many on here came from relations between cousins.  Ironically, the same guys complaining the loudest now, were complaining about JFB, the MSM and the GOBN that ran things back in the day.  The only thing that is consistent here is the cry for someone to lose their job.

I am not sure of this magical AD is out there with Arkansas roots and never makes a bad hire exists, but if you have a problem with what Long has done, you would likely be unhappy with most ADs out there.  If that was the case, JFB was a failure based on Kines, Crowe, Ford, HDN, Heath, and Pel.  Everyone is allowed to make a hiring mistake here and there.  Look no further than aTm (Franchione, Sherman & Sumlin), LSU (Orgeron), Florida (Muschamp & Durkin) and Tennessee (Kiffin, Dooley & Jones).  We are far from alone here.  As for the CBP disaster, it was awful and I am sure Long wishes it would have never have happened and he would have never been forced to make the choices he did, but choices I seriously doubt he made without input from many.  I figure the toughest decision for those most critical of him is whether to have grits or oatmeal for breakfast.

[bvillepig]

Frank Broyles last 15 years were pretty sorry for an AD

Might have coincided with John White showing up.

[sadhogfan]

In everyone's rush to ship CBB out of Fayetteville, a lot of posters here seem to want Jeff to go with Bret. Why?

Pros:
- The athletic department is financially sound with world class facilities
- All programs, except for football, are headed in the right direction and are winning
- His recent new hires in volleyball and softball have been slam dunks, and Coach Neighbors for women's hoops will probably be successful as well
- Scandal free athletic department

Cons:
- He made a mistake hiring Jimmy Dykes
- He shouldn't have extended Bielema after the 2014 season with that raise and buyout

Anything else? Am I missing anything here? Jeff Long is an ATHLETIC director, not a FOOTBALL director. Bret will be let go as soon as after Thanksgiving and probably as late as 2018 and his replacement will (hopefully) right the football ship.

Waiting for the "carpetbagger" argument which is about the stupidest, most xenophobic defense ever. And oh, the university, NOT ATHLETICS, signed the Pepsi contract.

I don't think anyone here knows what a BAD AD is truly like and once we get "one of those," we'll be wishing we never threw the baby out with the bathwater.

Yep.

[ShadowHawg]

Might have coincided with John White showing up.

No. White wasn't around when he fired Crowe and Ford. He also started harassing Nolan mercilessly in 96 because he felt Nolan wasn't nice to the gobn and got Ferritor's daughter in trouble even though Richardson had nothing to do with it. Broyles was so inept by the end he couldn't fire Nutt or even hire a basketball coach without a commitee or search firm.

[jgphillips3]

He purged the good long standing members of the GOBN with the bad.  His purge was too severe and he has rubbed a lot of people the wrong way.  Don't forget those things.  He overplayed his hand at times.

[hoglady]

Long - has brought the football program to it's lowest point probably ever.

The Dykes hire was an embarrassing publicity stunt that gutted the women's basketball program.

That Long disregarded the wishes of Coach John McDonnell regarding the track program shouldn't be forgotten. McDonnell built the best program in the nation, success we've never seen in any sport, 40+ national championships but Long knew better than McDonnell, the man that built it. Not a chance.
McDonnell earned the right to name his successor.

From everything you read - Long pretty well gutted the Athletic Dept of folks with Arkansas ties.

[forrest city joe]

Long - has brought the football program to it's lowest point probably ever.

The Dykes hire was an embarrassing publicity stunt that gutted the women's basketball program.

That Long disregarded the wishes of Coach John McDonnell regarding the track program shouldn't be forgotten. McDonnell built the best program in the nation, success we've never seen in any sport, 40+ national championships but Long knew better than McDonnell, the man that built it. Not a chance.
McDonnell earned the right to name his successor.

From everything you read - Long pretty well gutted the Athletic Dept of folks with Arkansas ties.

+1000.he is not a good A.D. a good A.D. is a guy like Barry Alvarez. he has built great football and basketball programs.he has never made a mess like Long has of their football program.Jeff Long is not a good A.D.

[DeltaBoy]

Remember Long tanked Pitts program too!

[oldhog63]

Long - has brought the football program to it's lowest point probably ever.

The Dykes hire was an embarrassing publicity stunt that gutted the women's basketball program.

That Long disregarded the wishes of Coach John McDonnell regarding the track program shouldn't be forgotten. McDonnell built the best program in the nation, success we've never seen in any sport, 40+ national championships but Long knew better than McDonnell, the man that built it. Not a chance.
McDonnell earned the right to name his successor.

From everything you read - Long pretty well gutted the Athletic Dept of folks with Arkansas ties.

Could have stopped right there. History of poor coaching hires. Losing is ok as long as $$ are rolling in. Not a leader.

[Hoggish1]

No. White wasn't around when he fired Crowe and Ford. He also started harassing Nolan mercilessly in 96 because he felt Nolan wasn't nice to the gobn and got Ferritor's daughter in trouble even though Richardson had nothing to do with it. Broyles was so inept by the end he couldn't fire Nutt or even hire a basketball coach without a commitee or search firm.

[Youngsta71701]

In everyone's rush to ship CBB out of Fayetteville, a lot of posters here seem to want Jeff to go with Bret. Why?

Pros:
- The athletic department is financially sound with world class facilities
- All programs, except for football, are headed in the right direction and are winning
- His recent new hires in volleyball and softball have been slam dunks, and Coach Neighbors for women's hoops will probably be successful as well
- Scandal free athletic department

Cons:
- He made a mistake hiring Jimmy Dykes
- He shouldn't have extended Bielema after the 2014 season with that raise and buyout

Anything else? Am I missing anything here? Jeff Long is an ATHLETIC director, not a FOOTBALL director. Bret will be let go as soon as after Thanksgiving and probably as late as 2018 and his replacement will (hopefully) right the football ship.

Waiting for the "carpetbagger" argument which is about the stupidest, most xenophobic defense ever. And oh, the university, NOT ATHLETICS, signed the Pepsi contract.

I don't think anyone here knows what a BAD AD is truly like and once we get "one of those," we'll be wishing we never threw the baby out with the bathwater.

Be gone. You can go with them if you'd like. To me the words in bold print are the worst part. How in the hell do you let that happen...

[Youngsta71701]

Remember Long tanked Pitts program too!

Yeah, so why in the hell did we even hire him? To clean up our Miami type image...

[hog911]

In everyone's rush to ship CBB out of Fayetteville, a lot of posters here seem to want Jeff to go with Bret. Why?

Pros:
- The athletic department is financially sound with world class facilities
- All programs, except for football, are headed in the right direction and are winning
- His recent new hires in volleyball and softball have been slam dunks, and Coach Neighbors for women's hoops will probably be successful as well
- Scandal free athletic department

Cons:
- He made a mistake hiring Jimmy Dykes
- He shouldn't have extended Bielema after the 2014 season with that raise and buyout

Anything else? Am I missing anything here? Jeff Long is an ATHLETIC director, not a FOOTBALL director. Bret will be let go as soon as after Thanksgiving and probably as late as 2018 and his replacement will (hopefully) right the football ship.

Waiting for the "carpetbagger" argument which is about the stupidest, most xenophobic defense ever. And oh, the university, NOT ATHLETICS, signed the Pepsi contract.

I don't think anyone here knows what a BAD AD is truly like and once we get "one of those," we'll be wishing we never threw the baby out with the bathwater.

Would be financially sound and have the same facilities no matter the AD! JL has sold the football program down the river based on each and every decisions he has made. (1) Giving away the LSU game for the Friday after thanksgiving to A&M and replacing them with the powerhouse Mizzou. (2) Allowing A&M to make South Carolina their permanent eastern rival. (3) Handling the firing of BP. He claims to have integrity while publicly firing a football coach on a national stage! He's like the people who video themselves giving money to homeless so they can post it on Facebook! He's a social media whore and you simpletons can't see through his BS! Oh and Pepsi sucks!!!!!!

[Salted Pork]

Be gone. You can go with them if you'd like.

Great comeback. Still no reasons here other than "I don't like him."

[snoblind]

No. White wasn't around when he fired Crowe and Ford. He also started harassing Nolan mercilessly in 96 because he felt Nolan wasn't nice to the gobn and got Ferritor's daughter in trouble even though Richardson had nothing to do with it. Broyles was so inept by the end he couldn't fire Nutt or even hire a basketball coach without a commitee or search firm.

You know Ferriror's daughter was screwing multiple basketball players, correct?  Great tutor. 

White was the man in your last 2 attacks.  And yes, he was around when Ford was fired.

[Youngsta71701]

Great comeback. Still no reasons here other than "I don't like him."

I never said I didn't like him. Seems like a good guy. Although he is messing up the biggest money maker at Arkansas by keeping Bret for this long. You know the football program.

[Ragnar Hogbrok]

You either Jeff Long or a staff member of his office,
Tickets are over priced for the product on the field!
Concessions are a joke!
Money 💰 is not everything!

Yep.  You can tell from his northern vernacular that he's a no good Yankee carpetbagger sympathizer.

[ShadowHawg]

Long - has brought the football program to it's lowest point probably ever.

The Dykes hire was an embarrassing publicity stunt that gutted the women's basketball program.

That Long disregarded the wishes of Coach John McDonnell regarding the track program shouldn't be forgotten. McDonnell built the best program in the nation, success we've never seen in any sport, 40+ national championships but Long knew better than McDonnell, the man that built it. Not a chance.
McDonnell earned the right to name his successor.

From everything you read - Long pretty well gutted the Athletic Dept of folks with Arkansas ties.

Winning in track is worth zero in about every way possible. When people talk about college dynasties they rarely even mention McDonnell and I would venture to guess he has the most national titles of any coach regardless of sport. Couldn't care less.

Did you see the circus that was the Broyles complex at the end of Broyles' time as AD? That was what the athletic dept run by folks with U of A ties. You miss that? Because that is who will be running things again. Those folks fired themselves by hiring Nutt, Heath, Altman, and Pel and then enabled Nutt's behavior to the point of a fan revolt.

Leave me out of that mess.

[Youngsta71701]

Winning in track is worth zero in about every way possible. When people talk about college dynasties they rarely even mention McDonnell and I would venture to guess he has the most national titles of any coach regardless of sport. Couldn't care less.

Did you see the circus that was the Broyles complex at the end of Broyles' time as AD? That was what the athletic dept run by folks with U of A ties. You miss that? Because that is who will be running things again. Those folks fired themselves by hiring Nutt, Heath, Altman, and Pel and then enabled Nutt's behavior to the point of a fan revolt.

Leave me out of that mess.

So do you want Long and Bielema to stay or go?

[porkrindjimmy]

Would be financially sound and have the same facilities no matter the AD! JL has sold the football program down the river based on each and every decisions he has made. (1) Giving away the LSU game for the Friday after thanksgiving to A&M and replacing them with the powerhouse Mizzou. (2) Allowing A&M to make South Carolina their permanent eastern rival. (3) Handling the firing of BP. He claims to have integrity while publicly firing a football coach on a national stage! He's like the people who video themselves giving money to homeless so they can post it on Facebook! He's a social media whore and you simpletons can't see through his BS! Oh and Pepsi sucks!!!!!!

Great post.

PRJ

[RedRock]

Frankly, I don't like how he talks through his nose. And I'm tired of seeing his face during games.

[ShadowHawg]

You know Ferriror's daughter was screwing multiple basketball players, correct?  Great tutor. 

White was the man in your last 2 attacks.

Nope. Frank tried to hire the next basketball coach after Heath and totally bungled it. After plan A fell through he couldn't even get a plan B interested and a search firm was hired and they came up with Altman and later Pel.

[ShadowHawg]

So do you want Long and Bielema to stay or go?

They aren't a package deal.

I explained your choices. Long or the guys that created the clown show that was the athletic dept before?

You choose

[Salted Pork]

Yep.  You can tell from his northern vernacular that he's a no good Yankee carpetbagger sympathizer.

Ding ding ding! There's the weaksauce Neo-Confederate carpetbagger argument festering in HV, ladies and gents.

[snoblind]

Nope. Frank tried to hire the next basketball coach after Heath and totally bungled it. After plan A fell through he couldn’t even get a plan B interested and a search firm was hired and they came up with Altman and later Pel.

You've proven you don't know what you are talking about so I'm done.  Not worth the time.

[WilsonHog]

They aren't a package deal.

I explained your choices. Long or the guys that created the clown show that was the athletic dept before?

You choose

I'll take having Razorback men in charge.

[Youngsta71701]

They aren't a package deal.

Sure looks like it.

[porkrindjimmy]

Nope. Frank tried to hire the next basketball coach after Heath and totally bungled it. After plan A fell through he couldn't even get a plan B interested and a search firm was hired and they came up with Altman and later Pel.

There is so much wrong with this post. You really don't have a clue what went or goes on up there...

And to answer your question up there. I will take the money running things over Long any day of the week and twice on days that end in Y.

PRJ

[GuvHog]

They aren’t a package deal.

I explained your choices. Long or the guys that created the clown show that was the athletic dept before?

You choose

If that's the choice, I'll choose the previous guys over Long anytime. Long needs to go PERIOD.

[rtr]

I’ll take whatever comes next after Long.

Ditto.  If Auburn beats Bama, it maybe tough for Gus to leave the plains. Especially to a division rival.  I feel like we are in a twilight zone episode.

[jabberjawls]

Ding ding ding! There's the weaksauce Neo-Confederate carpetbagger argument festering in HV, ladies and gents.

"weaksauce"??  That sounds like a northern term.