Just Got This Email From The Parent of a Current UoA FB Player, VERY Interesting

[California Hog]

Isn't it interesting that when a player comes out in the media and says they love the coach and that things are great, everyone says he is lying and that he is only saying that because he fears repercussions, but when an anonymous poster on the internet says that he got an email from a "player" that says something negative, everyone on this site takes it as gospel and says that must be the feelings of all the players?   

[hOUSTon NUTT]

The bottom line...the thing that is obvious to me...and the thing that makes me most sad, is . . . ***** is VERY aware that he could suffer if someone - him or anyone around him - "makes the wrong move." That speaks volumes to me about what these kids have gone through, and what they have yet to go through. -

That is what is so wrong with the leadership. These kids should not be having these kinds of worries and fears.

Please keep me informed. Thanks!

*****

This is a disturbing email.  I do have a question, and it's a matter of context.  When the parent talks about suffering, it is unclear from the email excerpt given as to whom would cause the suffering.  Is it Coach Nutt?  Is it the media?  Is it crazy boosters? 

I know we all <B>jumped to</B> the same <B>conclusion</B> here, but I'd like to know whom these kids fear.

Thanks in advance LSU fan, for your response.  Also, thanks for the email.

Anyone else notice the Office Space reference?  Nice hOUSTon NUTT.  +1

Thanks, I try to incorporate that into every post...sometimes you'll find a link to a jump to conclusions mat at the bottom of my posts...

[Hoot72]

Joe Dirt,
     I remember the day that HDN made the statement that caused MM to call him a "dork."  At the time, I was a supporter of the head coach of the Arkansas Razorbacks, because he was the coach of my team!  But when HDN made that statement, I looked at my oldest son and said "That was about the dumbest thing Houston could have done, he has really stepped in it this time."  If at the time, as a supporter of the coach -- I could make that statement, I don't have any problem believing that a 17 year old kid would call him a "dork."  Since, that time I have come to the conclusion, that the statement was not at all out of character for HDN,  and that he has done nothing but reinforce the idea that he is a "dork."  For the sake of the University, the football program, the players, and the fans -- he needs to be gone!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[dacskc]

"the wrong move"?  There are only 2 moves.  You either give 100% to WHOEVER the coach is, or you leave. 

BS.  What about those kids who grew up wanting to be Razorbacks their whole life?  They wanted to be Hogs, not Nutt minions. 

Then you play for the team, as I said, you either play with 100% effort, for WHOEVER, or you leave.  If you play sports for any length of time, you will get into a situation where you do not like the coach, you do not agree with him, and he may not like you.  You still only have 2 options, play hard or leave.

So the coach who can be fired or have corrected action placed against him should just be allowed to carry on as is?  Especially a coach who isn't exactly tearing it up in the SEC.

The decision on who the coach is should never be left up to the players.  If the PTB decide to keep the coach, and a player decides to stay, they should shut up and play ball.  If they decide to leave, that is their right.  What they should not do is stay AND complain ( not saying that any player in particular has done that ). 

I never said it should.  Never.  I'm saying the administration needs to step in.  The response to this post who cares about the program is more than just shut up and play ball.  I know you have said you don't care if Nutt leaves or not.  If that's the case, then I'm surprised you side with him.  You are essentially taking a program over the coach stance which in my mind is the right one to take. 

Why would you not be more concerned about wanting a different environment?  It seems to me this can't be healthy for winning ballgames. 

Those who do not like the environment, and do not want to play in it, can leave.  It is their right, and it is excercised by many many student athletes every year.

I do not a minute believe any of you all would have stayed under similar conditions where two of the coaches extended family members were emailing with that trash and the head coaches wife was forwarding it on to others with comments about how funny it was about the Springdale part. That seemed to be the straw that broke the camel's back. The shoes, the cold shoulder,being benched, being called out by those team mates you keep eluding to, and all the other Division II crap this staff pulled on these kids and their previous head coach would be enough to run anyone off. I  have concerns how anyone of you could support such actions and such people.

I have concerns that so many people just believe what they are told and never care for proof.

and what proof did you bring to the table ? Are you saying TP didn't email MM, or saying that Diana Nutt didn't forward the WH email to others ?  Do you for one second believe that HDN and his brother did not know of those email until mid january 2007 ? I hope you are not that naive but hey, nothing surprises me anymore, none of you ? Yall hang on to all the spin you want justice will be served when EC jr gets all those people under oath and they know it too that is why they are fighting it with all their might. If what HDN wants us to believe is true he should want his day in court to prove to all naysayers once and for all that is pure as virgin snow.

Sorry was my last post to much for you???  I am bringing no proof to the table but I am also not going to blindly follow others.  I think the Nutts new about it before Jan but I do not believe they had anything to do with sending it.

And where did I say they sent it. Obviously you might be the one with reading problems. TP sent it and signed it. I have copies of about 4 or 5 months of stupid and his brother dumbers phone and text records showing how much both of them had contact with the sender on both days those emails were sent. Anyone with an IQ equal their shoe size can figure that out, even you huggers should be able to see what it is. Neither Nutt had as much contact with TP before or after those two days, isn't that strange ?

Knowholes, I never understood that either, the increase in activity around the time of one email could be coincidence, but BOTH of them...c'mon now!
We are supposed to take TP's (an unstable, unsavory individual) excuse for fact? I'm not that gullible. Unless the lawsuit goes forward, we will NEVER have enough proof to satisfy huggers. If discovery fails to happen, I hope someone approaches this from the back door, and finds a way to get TP's phone records. It would be just as easy to see what was discussed from her end of the conversation. I think in time, the truth will come out. (prob not as soon as we hope, though)

[aristotle]

At least put the DORK comment in proper context. HDN takes credit for calling that play, brutha. A week or so earlier, this same DORK actually stated to the press that "playcalling was overrated", as a response to some criticism regarding his predictablility and thin play book.

Now take it a step further.......After that same game with the infamous quote by Dale, Casey Dick and Marcus Monk said it was an audible. The play from the sideline was checked off. Now I understand that audibles are constructed ahead of time based on the formation of the defense.......but to make that quote, during that horrendous season, after an audible, and a short time after lamenting that 'playcalling is overrated'.....Well HE IS A DORK.

Hogville was much harsher on Dale after that moment. I still remember the slowed down audio replay......hilarious

[casken]

The bottom line...the thing that is obvious to me...and the thing that makes me most sad, is . . . ***** is VERY aware that he could suffer if someone - him or anyone around him - "makes the wrong move." That speaks volumes to me about what these kids have gone through, and what they have yet to go through. -

That is what is so wrong with the leadership. These kids should not be having these kinds of worries and fears.

Please keep me informed. Thanks!

*****

I just played a little, from boy's club leagues through high school.  I imagine under about 5 head coaches.  I always knew if I said the wrong thing there might be hell to pay.  I didnt expect a democratic opportunity to voice my opinnion.  I imagine that is common to most teams in the country.  What's news worthy here? It is pretty common that the coaches rule...or isn't it? 

WPS :razorback: :razorback: :razorback:

[dacskc]

At least put the DORK comment in proper context. HDN takes credit for calling that play, brutha. A week or so earlier, this same DORK actually stated to the press that "playcalling was overrated", as a response to some criticism regarding his predictablility and thin play book.

Now take it a step further.......After that same game with the infamous quote by Dale, Casey Dick and Marcus Monk said it was an audible. The play from the sideline was checked off. Now I understand that audibles are constructed ahead of time based on the formation of the defense.......but to make that quote, during that horrendous season, after an audible, and a short time after lamenting that 'playcalling is overrated'.....Well HE IS A DORK.

Hogville was much harsher on Dale after that moment. I still remember the slowed down audio replay......hilarious

Unbelievable. I remember when he said that live on the radio, everyone I was with stopped what they were doing and stared at the radio. It was like we had just witnessed aliens land in the middle of the room.

[joedirt]

At least put the DORK comment in proper context. HDN takes credit for calling that play, brutha. A week or so earlier, this same DORK actually stated to the press that "playcalling was overrated", as a response to some criticism regarding his predictablility and thin play book.

Now take it a step further.......After that same game with the infamous quote by Dale, Casey Dick and Marcus Monk said it was an audible. The play from the sideline was checked off. Now I understand that audibles are constructed ahead of time based on the formation of the defense.......but to make that quote, during that horrendous season, after an audible, and a short time after lamenting that 'playcalling is overrated'.....Well HE IS A DORK.

Hogville was much harsher on Dale after that moment. I still remember the slowed down audio replay......hilarious

Unbelievable. I remember when he said that live on the radio, everyone I was with stopped what they were doing and stared at the radio. It was like we had just witnessed aliens land in the middle of the room.

It was on the Houston Nutt Show.  Tape delayed on Sunday nights.

[Silver Hog]

Is the audio available somewhere? Especially the slowed down version?

[aristotle]

Is the audio available somewhere? Especially the slowed down version?

Surely, somebody has it saved. We were having a lot of fun with it that evening after the game.

[hawgrock]

The bottom line...the thing that is obvious to me...and the thing that makes me most sad, is . . . ***** is VERY aware that he could suffer if someone - him or anyone around him - "makes the wrong move." That speaks volumes to me about what these kids have gone through, and what they have yet to go through. -

That is what is so wrong with the leadership. These kids should not be having these kinds of worries and fears.

Please keep me informed. Thanks!

*****

This is B.S.

[Hong Kong Sooey]

Exactly hogsanity.  Players should not be worrying about making the wrong move or saying the wrong thing.  They came up there play ball and get an education.  They need to do what they were recruited to do, which isn't to give opinions on the coach.  They should all have the same attitude as D-Mac and everything will work out.

Spare me the Dmac is righteous crap.

Spare me the poor little springdale boys crap.

I have met you jd, I know you love your kids. I also know you don't know what a lot of these kids went through. I think I know you well enough to say you would not stand by and let your kids suffer what these kids have.

I don't doubt that you do know more than I do what went on.  I guess I was just raised a little different than a lot of people on here.  I was taught that when I make a commitment, stand by it.  Don't bail out at the first sign of trouble.  I know that there's two sides to every story, and In this case, I don't think either side was 100% right.  People make mistakes every day.  I think Houston Nutt is a good person, but I think there's plenty of things he could have handled differently.  On the same note, no one is ever going to convince me that MM was just a poor little innocent bystandard that got picked on for no reason.

Why can't you be convinced joe, that mitch was an innocent bystander? Name even one public action mitch took to make you think he was anything other than an angel. Just one Joe.

Publicly calling the head coach at UofA a Dork.

He was in the sanctity of his own home.

Does that make it ok?

What did you say when Nutt "called that play, brutha!!"?  Dork would have been mild at my house right then...

[macgyver hawg]

Mitch called him a dork but other players have been arrested, even jailed, yet are given chance after chance.  Why is calling someone a dork even an issue.

I don't understand.

[Hong Kong Sooey]

At least put the DORK comment in proper context. HDN takes credit for calling that play, brutha. A week or so earlier, this same DORK actually stated to the press that "playcalling was overrated", as a response to some criticism regarding his predictablility and thin play book.

Now take it a step further.......After that same game with the infamous quote by Dale, Casey Dick and Marcus Monk said it was an audible. The play from the sideline was checked off. Now I understand that audibles are constructed ahead of time based on the formation of the defense.......but to make that quote, during that horrendous season, after an audible, and a short time after lamenting that 'playcalling is overrated'.....Well HE IS A DORK.

Hogville was much harsher on Dale after that moment. I still remember the slowed down audio replay......hilarious

Unbelievable. I remember when he said that live on the radio, everyone I was with stopped what they were doing and stared at the radio. It was like we had just witnessed aliens land in the middle of the room.

It was on the Houston Nutt Show.  Tape delayed on Sunday nights.

It was live on Chuck's post game interview BEFORE it was on the Houston Nutt Show. 

[Frank and Swine]

I can't even take that quote out of that email seriously:

I don't even really know if that is from the parent of a hog player.

Let's assume it is... Is he a walk on? Is he low on the depth chart? Does he have a personal problem with nutt because he is on the scout team? Who knows?

The quote has no context whatsoever. What does "Makes the wrong move" even mean? Is dropping a touch down pass the wrong move? Is continuously jumping off sides during practice the wrong move? Is talking to the media the wrong move?

And what does "suffer" mean. Running extra after practice? Getting benched? Getting ran off the team?

And please do not try to explain what this VERY out of context quote means unless you have read the email personally and know who the player is and what that players status is. If you do not know these things then you cannot know what the context of the quote is. To me this thread belongs in vents and rumors.

Furthermore everyone on this site has seen recent quotes from players, recruits and parents themselves (not second hand supposed emails from parents) saying they back up Nutt and this coaching staff 100%. These are the facts. I am open minded. If I find out that that email came from a respected player on the team and the PLAYER is genuinely scared of getting run off then I will give it full credence but until then its just a rumor with no context and no meaning to anyone that thinks intelligently.

So if a player isn't a starter or "respected" he has less credibility?  Are they less of a team mate? Do they not matter as much as the starters?  I played ball all through school and didn't always start, but I felt like I was just as important and my coach made us feel that way too.  I believe their concerns or thoughts are just as credible or important as anyone else on the team.

[Stella]

Nutt has a lot of personality problems which seem to be affecting his job performance.  Anyone else would have been escorted out of the office a long time ago!

[KluchHawg]

I don't remember MM complaining about his shoes to the public.  His grandma did.  The only thing I remember is that his helmet disappeared.

I know for a fact that HDN had nothing to do with the helmet missing.  I seems that there are some people that help the equipment managers do their jobs.  And let just say that they might walk away with an item or two. 

[paraloma]

Is the audio available somewhere? Especially the slowed down version?

This is my ringtone.


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[aristotle]

Is the audio available somewhere? Especially the slowed down version?

This is my ringtone.


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Absolutely beautiful.

[hawaiianhogster]

There is only one thing to do in this scenario. Take them on, head on. Let it be made known that these people are in the wrong. I guarantee they will feel the pain of their sins greatly. Then make them give you your year back and go to another team or not.

[Boner]

Isn't it interesting that when a player comes out in the media and says they love the coach and that things are great, everyone says he is lying and that he is only saying that because he fears repercussions, but when an anonymous poster on the internet says that he got an email from a "player" that says something negative, everyone on this site takes it as gospel and says that must be the feelings of all the players?   

So true.  If its in USA Today, it has no validity.  But a message board?

[grizzlyhawg]

italics means it must be true

[LJHOG]

Now why would a parent of a player be asking YOU to keep THEM informed?  You that close to the program that you have more knowledge than a player on the team?  Not to mention the fact that this quote is taken out of context of the entire email, which makes it subject to a wide variety of interpretations.  Of course, that was the point wasn't it.

[JEM]

italics means it must be true

       :razorback:

[Shoatly]

Its a good thing they all play for a good Christian man...   

A fine example for us all. 

[sarcasm]

[Fourhogs]

Isn't it interesting that when a player comes out in the media and says they love the coach and that things are great, everyone says he is lying and that he is only saying that because he fears repercussions, but when an anonymous poster on the internet says that he got an email from a "player" that says something negative, everyone on this site takes it as gospel and says that must be the feelings of all the players?   

So true.  If its in USA Today, it has no validity.  But a message board?

If it's in national print, I'll guarantee you you will be very supportive of your coach.  Do you think that even if they think he's a dork, they're giong to say it to the national/regional press?  Get real. 

[HITCHER]

Nutt's a disgrace to his family, his profession and most of all the U of A. But he sees himself as being bigger than the U of A, so he doesn't care if he drags the program into the gutter. EGO! EGO! EGO!

[RebelliousHog]

"the wrong move"?  There are only 2 moves.  You either give 100% to WHOEVER the coach is, or you leave. 

BS.  What about those kids who grew up wanting to be Razorbacks their whole life?  They wanted to be Hogs, not Nutt minions. 

Then you play for the team, as I said, you either play with 100% effort, for WHOEVER, or you leave.  If you play sports for any length of time, you will get into a situation where you do not like the coach, you do not agree with him, and he may not like you.  You still only have 2 options, play hard or leave.

So, using your thought process, the soldiers and population of Germany were completely correct in following Hitler in the slaughtering of 3 million Jews. This statement is idiotic beyond belief.

[DezNuttstehsuq]

"the wrong move"?  There are only 2 moves.  You either give 100% to WHOEVER the coach is, or you leave. 

Or you revolt against a low life coward who cant stand criticism so obviously warranted, do what is RIGHT and speak up so that the future can be brighter that this dull shade of grey that is UofA football

[hogfan2286]

"the wrong move"?  There are only 2 moves.  You either give 100% to WHOEVER the coach is, or you leave. 

BS.  What about those kids who grew up wanting to be Razorbacks their whole life?  They wanted to be Hogs, not Nutt minions. 

Then you play for the team, as I said, you either play with 100% effort, for WHOEVER, or you leave.  If you play sports for any length of time, you will get into a situation where you do not like the coach, you do not agree with him, and he may not like you.  You still only have 2 options, play hard or leave.

So, using your thought process, the soldiers and population of Germany were completely correct in following Hitler in the slaughtering of 3 million Jews. This statement is idiotic beyond belief.

Comparing the situation in Nazi Germany to the atmosphere in the Razorback locker room is idiotic. 

I have a good friend on the team and he has never said anything about being worried about Nutt running him or any other player off.

[JEM]

Let us not force or expect these players to rock the boat, they are here to get an education and play sports.    :razorback:

[kennedy]

I have to wonder also why a parent would need you to keep them informed? I imagine they have a lot more
sense of what is going on.

The team is fine. I know that doesn't quite fit with your agenda.

[Hogs-n-Roses]

I'm not sure but I imagine there are a lot of posters/fans out here who know things or players and can't talk at all as it will cause trouble for the Kids. No one, the kids or fans should have to be going through this. Its just weird.

[The Marmot]

"the wrong move"?  There are only 2 moves.  You either give 100% to WHOEVER the coach is, or you leave. 

BS.  What about those kids who grew up wanting to be Razorbacks their whole life?  They wanted to be Hogs, not Nutt minions. 

Then you play for the team, as I said, you either play with 100% effort, for WHOEVER, or you leave.  If you play sports for any length of time, you will get into a situation where you do not like the coach, you do not agree with him, and he may not like you.  You still only have 2 options, play hard or leave.

So, using your thought process, the soldiers and population of Germany were completely correct in following Hitler in the slaughtering of 3 million Jews. This statement is idiotic beyond belief.

Another Hitler analogy, huh?? Come on man... keep it in perspective.

[razorjacket2006]

Dude I work with D-Mac's brother, and he doesnt care who the head coach is he wants to be a HOG RB.  So lay off D-Mac!

Exactly hogsanity.  Players should not be worrying about making the wrong move or saying the wrong thing.  They came up there play ball and get an education.  They need to do what they were recruited to do, which isn't to give opinions on the coach.  They should all have the same attitude as D-Mac and everything will work out.

Spare me the Dmac is righteous crap.

[mvpiglet]

Nutt's a disgrace to his family, his profession and most of all the U of A. But he sees himself as being bigger than the U of A, so he doesn't care if he drags the program into the gutter. EGO! EGO! EGO!

Actually, he would be diagnosed as a Narcissist:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Narcissistic_Personality_Disorder

[d1nonlyhogfan]

"the wrong move"?  There are only 2 moves.  You either give 100% to WHOEVER the coach is, or you leave. 

So an "underling" should always serve his superior blindly? That is wrong on so many levels.

Serve blindly, no, but, if you choose to stay and play, you give 100% for your team mates.

I'm sure the Springdale kids gave their all on the field (freshman blunders notwithstanding) but, when their concerns were ignored or they were just downright treated badly they chose option #3: forced to leave. I don't think option #2 was what they truly wanted.

I think some of the Springdale players expected to have the world handed to them and it didn't work out that way.  It they would have been team players, they wouldn't have caught the flack they did.  I think the Springdale player that chose to stay has the right attitude.  You didn't hear about him getting hemmed up by the rest of the team. 

Yeah, but whose daddy was the one crying for 60 catches? Hint: it wasn't Damian's.

[HogFansReunited]

"the wrong move"?  There are only 2 moves.  You either give 100% to WHOEVER the coach is, or you leave. 

So an "underling" should always serve his superior blindly? That is wrong on so many levels.

Serve blindly, no, but, if you choose to stay and play, you give 100% for your team mates.

So is it for the "teamates" or the "coach" that you shut up and play hard?  You've stated both.

You play for and with your team mates.  To do that, you have to play hard for the coach as well.  You tolerate the coach to do your best for your team.  Thats why i said, if you choose to stay, you give 100% for whoever is the coach.

If you truly believe this then I would like to know if you have ever left a job because it was not working out for you.  I am sure you have, either for better pay, better time off, better benefits or any other reason.  So how do you think your co-workers (team) felt about that?  Your argument makes no since at all.  If you were right then no one should worry about what is best for them and just worry about those around them.  But then again, I am sure you always do this.

[ntubjr]

THIS IS THE SAME BS THAT IS ALWAYS ON THIS BOARD,I HAVE A RELATIVE IN THE FOOTBALL PROGRAM AND HRVE TALKED WITH A NUMBER OF PLAYERS   THRY HAVE ALL SAID THEY ARE BEHIND NUTT AND ARE GLAD MM AND DW ARE GONE TWO WRS TOLD ME THAT THEY WERE  GLAD GUS WAS GONE BECAUSE DW SHOULD NOT HAVE PLAYED AHEAD OF THEM IT IS BAD ENOUGH THAT MOST OF THE POSITIVE PEOPLE HAVE QUIT POSTING DO NOT INFER THAT THERE  ARE PROBLEMS ON THE TEAM WHEN ARE NONE IF ANY OF YOU DOUBT ME THEN PM HSV WITH YOUR SOURCE OR ASK HIM IF MINE ARE RIGHT I CAN GURRANTEE YHAT HE WILL TELL YOU THAT I KNOW WHAT I AM TALKING ABOUT

[boarhog12]

After the events of the last few months I would think that the coaches put a gag order on the team. Any and everything that is said can have a double meaning with the division in the fans. Best thing for all involved with the team is to shut up and do your job to much BS has went under the bridge to solve anything with words. The only thing that will shut the darkside up is wins. I can't imagine what it is like to a darksider disappointment when your team is winning and happiness is loosing.  Success thru failure, strange folks these darksiders

[RebelliousHog]

THIS IS THE SAME BS THAT IS ALWAYS ON THIS BOARD,I HAVE A RELATIVE IN THE FOOTBALL PROGRAM AND HRVE TALKED WITH A NUMBER OF PLAYERS   THRY HAVE ALL SAID THEY ARE BEHIND NUTT AND ARE GLAD MM AND DW ARE GONE TWO WRS TOLD ME THAT THEY WERE  GLAD GUS WAS GONE BECAUSE DW SHOULD NOT HAVE PLAYED AHEAD OF THEM IT IS BAD ENOUGH THAT MOST OF THE POSITIVE PEOPLE HAVE QUIT POSTING DO NOT INFER THAT THERE  ARE PROBLEMS ON THE TEAM WHEN ARE NONE IF ANY OF YOU DOUBT ME THEN PM HSV WITH YOUR SOURCE OR ASK HIM IF MINE ARE RIGHT I CAN GURRANTEE YHAT HE WILL TELL YOU THAT I KNOW WHAT I AM TALKING ABOUT

WHAT DO YOU EXPECT THEM TO SAY? HAVE A PRESSER AND FILE ALL THEIR GRIEVANCES IN PUBLIC AND RISK LOSING THEIR SCHOLLY?  DID YOU REALLY EXPECT ANY WIDE RECEIVERS ON THE BENCH TO SAY "YEAH DM IS BETTER THAN US". I WOULD SAY THE POSITIVE  PEOPLE ARE THE ONES WANTING TO KNOW THE WHOLE STORY, NOT HIDE THEIR HEAD IN THE SAND. I DON'T KNOW THAT ANYBODY I'VE SEEN HAS INFERRED THERE IS A PROBLEM WITH THE TEAM. THOSE GUYS ARE ON SCHOLLIES AND PLAYING FOR A FREE EDUCATION (FOR THE MOST PART). AND LASTLY, LEARN HOW TO USE SPELL-CHECK, LEARN HOW TO USE PUNCTUATION,  and stop yelling at us.

[OKCHogFan]

The equipment manager makes sure you have the right equipment.  The u of a is a major program, if you have to go to the head coach about shoes something is wrong.  Think back to when you played, even high school football, you didn't bother the coach about shoes or equipment, you asked the managers and they squared you away.  If shoes weren't important they wouldn't pay the HC millions of dollars a year to put the team in them.  The one's mitch needed were probably not the same brand as nutt had a contract for.  As an athlete you use the equipment you need to get the job done.  I believe he even tried to cover up the logo and that wasn't satisfactory. 
The HC is always a dictatorship... how else can you manage a program?  You better trust him and believe he is guided by a set of principles you can live with.  It doesn't hurt to like or trust your position coach since they're the ones you'll spend the most time with, then the coordinator.

[RebelliousHog]

"the wrong move"?  There are only 2 moves.  You either give 100% to WHOEVER the coach is, or you leave. 

BS.  What about those kids who grew up wanting to be Razorbacks their whole life?  They wanted to be Hogs, not Nutt minions. 

Then you play for the team, as I said, you either play with 100% effort, for WHOEVER, or you leave.  If you play sports for any length of time, you will get into a situation where you do not like the coach, you do not agree with him, and he may not like you.  You still only have 2 options, play hard or leave.

So, using your thought process, the soldiers and population of Germany were completely correct in following Hitler in the slaughtering of 3 million Jews. This statement is idiotic beyond belief.

Another Hitler analogy, huh?? Come on man... keep it in perspective.

If you can find a better analogy, I'm willing to use it. A person in total charge of a entity. A man that everyone says is just doing the best for the entity, no matter the means. (the means justify the end). A man who the people of the entity knew little of his inner thought process. a man who lets few people get close enough to see the inner workings of the entity. A man who's inner circle is VERY close and loyal to a fault.

"the wrong move"?  There are only 2 moves.  You either give 100% to WHOEVER the coach is, or you leave. 

BS.  What about those kids who grew up wanting to be Razorbacks their whole life?  They wanted to be Hogs, not Nutt minions. 

Then you play for the team, as I said, you either play with 100% effort, for WHOEVER, or you leave.  If you play sports for any length of time, you will get into a situation where you do not like the coach, you do not agree with him, and he may not like you.  You still only have 2 options, play hard or leave.

So, using your thought process, the soldiers and population of Germany were completely correct in following Hitler in the slaughtering of 3 million Jews. This statement is idiotic beyond belief.

Comparing the situation in Nazi Germany to the atmosphere in the Razorback locker room is idiotic. 

I have a good friend on the team and he has never said anything about being worried about Nutt running him or any other player off.

Do you really think HDN is going to walk into the locker room and say, "Ok, anybody says schitt to the media, parents, internets, or friends about the goings on of the team is losing their scholly. Got it? Good. Ya'll have a nice day."

[Hogchick]

Do you we know who this quote came from?   I know the op said a players parent.  I was just wondering who specifically.

[kennedy]

ntubjr is right. Everything he said is the complete truth.

You people need to get a clue.

[HamShank]

"the wrong move"?  There are only 2 moves.  You either give 100% to WHOEVER the coach is, or you leave. 

BS.  What about those kids who grew up wanting to be Razorbacks their whole life?  They wanted to be Hogs, not Nutt minions. 

Then you play for the team, as I said, you either play with 100% effort, for WHOEVER, or you leave.  If you play sports for any length of time, you will get into a situation where you do not like the coach, you do not agree with him, and he may not like you.  You still only have 2 options, play hard or leave.

So, using your thought process, the soldiers and population of Germany were completely correct in following Hitler in the slaughtering of 3 million Jews. This statement is idiotic beyond belief.

Comparing the situation in Nazi Germany to the atmosphere in the Razorback locker room is idiotic. 

I have a good friend on the team and he has never said anything about being worried about Nutt running him or any other player off.

Comparing the Nutt Regime to the Third Reich is preposterous.  For example, members of the Third Reich didn't have gatorade, massages, or the best grass.

[RebelliousHog]

Even military personnel are able to disobey an unlawful order by a commanding officer (granted, they may face a court martial).

Point being that blindly following orders and commands has not been all that successful over history. Ya'll can whine about my analogy all you want. You haven't shown me to be incorrect. Just said I shouldn't do it.

[macgyver hawg]

THIS IS THE SAME BS THAT IS ALWAYS ON THIS BOARD,I HAVE A RELATIVE IN THE FOOTBALL PROGRAM AND HRVE TALKED WITH A NUMBER OF PLAYERS   THRY HAVE ALL SAID THEY ARE BEHIND NUTT AND ARE GLAD MM AND DW ARE GONE TWO WRS TOLD ME THAT THEY WERE  GLAD GUS WAS GONE BECAUSE DW SHOULD NOT HAVE PLAYED AHEAD OF THEM IT IS BAD ENOUGH THAT MOST OF THE POSITIVE PEOPLE HAVE QUIT POSTING DO NOT INFER THAT THERE  ARE PROBLEMS ON THE TEAM WHEN ARE NONE IF ANY OF YOU DOUBT ME THEN PM HSV WITH YOUR SOURCE OR ASK HIM IF MINE ARE RIGHT I CAN GURRANTEE YHAT HE WILL TELL YOU THAT I KNOW WHAT I AM TALKING ABOUT

Were these the same players that went 4-7 and 5-6?  MM wanted to redshirt.  He didn't ask to be put in.

[bearcathog]

Exactly hogsanity.  Players should not be worrying about making the wrong move or saying the wrong thing.  They came up there play ball and get an education.  They need to do what they were recruited to do, which isn't to give opinions on the coach.  They should all have the same attitude as D-Mac and everything will work out.

Spare me the Dmac is righteous crap.

Your Right he shouldn't have used DMAC, he should have said Robert Johnson's Attitude, that's a team player.

[bearcathog]

"the wrong move"?  There are only 2 moves.  You either give 100% to WHOEVER the coach is, or you leave. 

BS.  What about those kids who grew up wanting to be Razorbacks their whole life?  They wanted to be Hogs, not Nutt minions. 

Then you play for the team, as I said, you either play with 100% effort, for WHOEVER, or you leave.  If you play sports for any length of time, you will get into a situation where you do not like the coach, you do not agree with him, and he may not like you.  You still only have 2 options, play hard or leave.

So, using your thought process, the soldiers and population of Germany were completely correct in following Hitler in the slaughtering of 3 million Jews. This statement is idiotic beyond belief.

Comparing the situation in Nazi Germany to the atmosphere in the Razorback locker room is idiotic. 

I have a good friend on the team and he has never said anything about being worried about Nutt running him or any other player off.

Comparing the Nutt Regime to the Third Reich is preposterous.  For example, members of the Third Reich didn't have gatorade, massages, or the best grass.

I read somewhere that on internet message boards when someone has lost and argument and cannot add anything else to a discussion they pull out Hilter.