What if Tx Hs kids never left Texas, or Fla kids never left Fla

[hogsanity]

or Louisiana kids never left Louisiana?  College Fb would be a lot different.  Seriously, imagine if the top 100 kids in Texas all stayed in state.  It would change the face of college football.  College football, as a whole, needs kids to leave their home states and spread the talent around, unfortuantly, that also means top talent, in states that may only produce 10 or so BCS calibre players, will also move around. 

Which would you rather have, a college football scene where no one ever left their home state, or one in which the talent does get spread around. 

[dqhog33]

We would be in a world of hurt

[TX HOG]

I hoping more of those Texas kids come to Arkansas.

[DeltaBoy]

The OU sooners would become the new Baylor of the Big 12 South!

[hogsanity]

We would be in a world of hurt

The OU sooners would become the new Baylor of the Big 12 South!

Schools like OU, Ar, and tons of others need kids from out of state much more than they need to keep a few in state.  I AM NOT SAYING NOT TO RECRUIT YOUR OWN STATE. I am simply pointing out the fact that kids do leave their states, and how glad I am that they do. 

[TX HOG]

In order for Arkansas to compete we need to keep the few D-1 prospects we have and get lucky with some out of state talent. 

[hogsanity]

In order for Arkansas to compete we need to keep the few D-1 prospects we have and get lucky with some out of state talent. 

No, we need to find a way to convince 15-20 SEC type players form out of state to come here, then, target 2 or 3 in staters. 

[DeltaBoy]

We would be in a world of hurt

The OU sooners would become the new Baylor of the Big 12 South!

Schools like OU, Ar, and tons of others need kids from out of state much more than they need to keep a few in state.  I AM NOT SAYING NOT TO RECRUIT YOUR OWN STATE. I am simply pointing out the fact that kids do leave their states, and how glad I am that they do. 

I understand what your saying but the fact is Bob Stoops would be in Tears if the Ncaa said no more Texas boys for you!

[hogsanity]

We would be in a world of hurt

The OU sooners would become the new Baylor of the Big 12 South!

Schools like OU, Ar, and tons of others need kids from out of state much more than they need to keep a few in state.  I AM NOT SAYING NOT TO RECRUIT YOUR OWN STATE. I am simply pointing out the fact that kids do leave their states, and how glad I am that they do. 

I understand what your saying but the fact is Bob Stoops would be in Tears if the Ncaa said no more Texas boys for you!

I agree.  If Stoops had to field a team with nothing but Oklahoma kids, he would leave in about 30 seconds.

[DeltaBoy]

With all the UA system Alumni we have it NC texas you would think we could do something to help open up the Pipeline to UA.

[hogsanity]

With all the UA system Alumni we have it NC texas you would think we could do something to help open up the Pipeline to UA.

We lost that pipeline when we moved to the SEC.  Used to we could tell a Tx kid he would get to play 8 games a year aginst Texas teams, 4 in the state of Texas.  And, if they won the SWC, they would get to go play on Jan 1 in the Cotton Bowl. 

[Hollywood_HOGan45]

We only want kids who want to be Razorbacks

Everyone knows thats the best way to recruit.

[hogfan064]

Your top 25 would consist of

Georgia, GT, Florida, FSU, Miami, UCF, USF, Texas, A&M, Ohio State, Michigan, Cal, Southern Cal, UCLA, Fresno State, , Penn State, Rutgers, Ole Miss, MSU, Alabama, Auburn, UNC, NC State, South Carolina, Clemson, LSU

[TheNuttlessFrontier]

or Louisiana kids never left Louisiana?  College Fb would be a lot different.  Seriously, imagine if the top 100 kids in Texas all stayed in state.  It would change the face of college football.  College football, as a whole, needs kids to leave their home states and spread the talent around, unfortuantly, that also means top talent, in states that may only produce 10 or so BCS calibre players, will also move around. 

Which would you rather have, a college football scene where no one ever left their home state, or one in which the talent does get spread around. 

What if monkeys fly out of my butt?

[Shocktheman]

No argument here. . . I agree in general with your primary post.  However, are you trying to justify why is should be acceptable that an Arkansas prospect go out of state? It is America and these kids should feel free to go where they desire, but the Razorback coaching staff should make every effort to recruit the in state kids.  IMO, the HOGS can not afford to  let the majority of the in state talent to go elsewhere. 

[311Hog]

With all the UA system Alumni we have it NC texas you would think we could do something to help open up the Pipeline to UA.

We lost that pipeline when we moved to the SEC.  Used to we could tell a Tx kid he would get to play 8 games a year aginst Texas teams, 4 in the state of Texas.  And, if they won the SWC, they would get to go play on Jan 1 in the Cotton Bowl. 

You know this is a falacy right Sanity? more UofA grads go to work in Dallas then any other city in this country, this is TODAY right now. Sure our pressence as diminished but we could still get it back at ANY TIME, all they need to do is schedule games in Texas period end of problem, or more to the point TRY and get kids from Texas.

Btw you are also purposely missing a key point with regards to instate talent. Yes we need out of state kids, but every year there are 1 to 3 kids from instate that are "MUST GETS" as in they dont come around often and if the Hogs are to remain the professional football team of the state they have to get these kids to be hogs period.

All the 3 star etc dime a dozen kids in state we can live without, but the 1 or 2 "special" kids have to be signed period every time they come around.

[HogNuttz]

We wouldn't be as bad off as most people think.  Texas and Florida have how many D-1 schools?  About 8 each with 4+ BCS schools.  We would have State to compete with.

I would think Georgia and Ga Tech would be two of the best over a period of time.

[Purple Tiger]

In order for Arkansas to compete we need to keep the few D-1 prospects we have and get lucky with some out of state talent. 

No, we need to find a way to convince 15-20 SEC type players form out of state to come here, then, target 2 or 3 in staters



That's why I say it's much tougher for a coach at Arkansas to meet ya'lls expectations. It's hard to convince the best kids in Texas.Louisiana,and Alabama to leave their state universities to play at Arkansas.  

[HOGWILD_F4I]

Your top 25 would consist of

Georgia, GT, Florida, FSU, Miami, UCF, USF, Texas, A&M, Ohio State, Michigan, Cal, Southern Cal, UCLA, Fresno State, , Penn State, Rutgers, Ole Miss, MSU, Alabama, Auburn, UNC, NC State, South Carolina, Clemson, LSU

Year.. after year.. after year.. after year   

[Choctaw Hog]

or Louisiana kids never left Louisiana?  College Fb would be a lot different.  Seriously, imagine if the top 100 kids in Texas all stayed in state.  It would change the face of college football.  College football, as a whole, needs kids to leave their home states and spread the talent around, unfortuantly, that also means top talent, in states that may only produce 10 or so BCS calibre players, will also move around. 

Which would you rather have, a college football scene where no one ever left their home state, or one in which the talent does get spread around. 

The the smaller colleges in those states would develop strong programs because the "flagship" universities wouldn't be able to sign them all.  Teams like Florida International, Florida Atlantic, etc. would benefit.  Arkansas has a tremendous advantage because the Razorbacks are basically the "only game in town".  That's why it's so important for Arkansas to get the vast majority of the players they want each and every year.  Unfortunately, that's becoming more and more difficult because of the current state of Razorback Football.

[Silver Hog]

nobody remembers Hoosiers? 


I guess what would happen is the NCAA would split teams based on that into different divisions. Ark would become a DIV-2 team and compete on a level playing field with other small population states.  We'd still be competetive.

it would save recruiting budgets because we would only compete with ASU and UCA for players.

I don't think we'd be as bad off as you guys think.  It would put a lot more pressure to get a GREAT coach, to overcome the hurdles of less selection of players.

[hogsanity]

With all the UA system Alumni we have it NC texas you would think we could do something to help open up the Pipeline to UA.

We lost that pipeline when we moved to the SEC.  Used to we could tell a Tx kid he would get to play 8 games a year aginst Texas teams, 4 in the state of Texas.  And, if they won the SWC, they would get to go play on Jan 1 in the Cotton Bowl. 

You know this is a falacy right Sanity? more UofA grads go to work in Dallas then any other city in this country, this is TODAY right now. Sure our pressence as diminished but we could still get it back at ANY TIME, all they need to do is schedule games in Texas period end of problem, or more to the point TRY and get kids from Texas.

Btw you are also purposely missing a key point with regards to instate talent. Yes we need out of state kids, but every year there are 1 to 3 kids from instate that are "MUST GETS" as in they dont come around often and if the Hogs are to remain the professional football team of the state they have to get these kids to be hogs period.

All the 3 star etc dime a dozen kids in state we can live without, but the 1 or 2 "special" kids have to be signed period every time they come around.

YEA, our grads GO TO DALLAS!  I dont see tons of TX, or A&M grads coming to Fort Smith, Fay or LR. 

Look above, I posted that we should target 2-3 in staters, those would be those "special" players.

[Purple Tiger]

Your top 25 would consist of

Georgia, GT, Florida, FSU, Miami, UCF, USF, Texas, A&M, Ohio State, Michigan, Cal, Southern Cal, UCLA, Fresno State, , Penn State, Rutgers, Ole Miss, MSU, Alabama, Auburn, UNC, NC State, South Carolina, Clemson, LSU

Louisiana Tech.ULL.and Tulane would be much better,

[311Hog]

or Louisiana kids never left Louisiana?  College Fb would be a lot different.  Seriously, imagine if the top 100 kids in Texas all stayed in state.  It would change the face of college football.  College football, as a whole, needs kids to leave their home states and spread the talent around, unfortuantly, that also means top talent, in states that may only produce 10 or so BCS calibre players, will also move around. 

Which would you rather have, a college football scene where no one ever left their home state, or one in which the talent does get spread around. 

Something else i dont think you considered.

If kids in those states "had to stay in state to play college ball" dont you think some would just move to the state with the college in it they wanted to play for while they were still in High School?

I mean kids go to "prep" schools all the time in states they arent from nor live in.

[DeltaBoy]

With all the UA system Alumni we have it NC Texas you would think we could do something to help open up the Pipeline to UA.

We lost that pipeline when we moved to the SEC.  Used to we could tell a TX kid he would get to play 8 games a year against Texas teams, 4 in the state of Texas.  And, if they won the SWC, they would get to go play on Jan 1 in the Cotton Bowl. 

You know this is a fallacy right Sanity? more Ufa grads go to work in Dallas then any other city in this country, this is TODAY right now. Sure our presence as diminished but we could still get it back at ANY TIME, all they need to do is schedule games in Texas period end of problem, or more to the point TRY and get kids from Texas.

BTW you are also purposely missing a key point with regards to instate talent. Yes we need out of state kids, but every year there are 1 to 3 kids from instate that are "MUST GETS" as in they don't come around often and if the Hogs are to remain the professional football team of the state they have to get these kids to be hogs period.

All the 3 star etc dime a dozen kids in state we can live without, but the 1 or 2 "special" kids have to be signed period every time they come around.

I agree we need to keep as much of the top talent at home and by keeping Texas , TCU or TAMU on the Ncon schedule we would keep the pipe open.  Until Todd Dodge gets us playing UNT in Texas Stadium on a Home and Home series it is no use  in playing them.

[iCalledThatHogBrotha!]

or Louisiana kids never left Louisiana?  College Fb would be a lot different.  Seriously, imagine if the top 100 kids in Texas all stayed in state.  It would change the face of college football.  College football, as a whole, needs kids to leave their home states and spread the talent around, unfortuantly, that also means top talent, in states that may only produce 10 or so BCS calibre players, will also move around. 

Which would you rather have, a college football scene where no one ever left their home state, or one in which the talent does get spread around. 

That would be a logical argument if we were grabbing the #1 and #2 recruits in those states.  But that is not the case.  Instead we are lucky to get the #50 recruit in TX/LA/FL.  Trading top 3 AR boys for other states' leftovers?  Not a good gameplan.

[mword]

We would be in trouble, that's for sure.

[Choctaw Hog]

With all the UA system Alumni we have it NC texas you would think we could do something to help open up the Pipeline to UA.

We lost that pipeline when we moved to the SEC.  Used to we could tell a Tx kid he would get to play 8 games a year aginst Texas teams, 4 in the state of Texas.  And, if they won the SWC, they would get to go play on Jan 1 in the Cotton Bowl. 

That's a convenient excuse the apologists like to use.  A quick glance of the LSU roster indicates they have 11 players from Texas and they don't play 8 games a year against Texas teams.  How do you explain that? 

[311Hog]

With all the UA system Alumni we have it NC texas you would think we could do something to help open up the Pipeline to UA.

We lost that pipeline when we moved to the SEC.  Used to we could tell a Tx kid he would get to play 8 games a year aginst Texas teams, 4 in the state of Texas.  And, if they won the SWC, they would get to go play on Jan 1 in the Cotton Bowl. 

That's a convenient excuse the apologists like to use.  A quick glance of the LSU roster indicates they have 11 players from Texas and they don't play 8 games a year against Texas teams.  How do you explain that? 

Thats what happens when you win Real Championships.

[351hog]

With all the UA system Alumni we have it NC texas you would think we could do something to help open up the Pipeline to UA.

We lost that pipeline when we moved to the SEC.  Used to we could tell a Tx kid he would get to play 8 games a year aginst Texas teams, 4 in the state of Texas.  And, if they won the SWC, they would get to go play on Jan 1 in the Cotton Bowl. 

That's a convenient excuse the apologists like to use.  A quick glance of the LSU roster indicates they have 11 players from Texas and they don't play 8 games a year against Texas teams.  How do you explain that? 

Location would be part of it....LSU is less than 300 miles from the greater Houston area.  So a player can have his friends/family watch him play more often b/c its an easy drive, as opposed to having to drive to the UofA. 

[blue]

The OU sooners would become the new Baylor of the Big 12 South!

Exactly, and nobody talks about their recruiting base. As a matter of fact Arkansas has produced just as many if not more D-I players as Oklahoma has during the last ten years. I have a sneaky feeling someone like stoops would expose the past hirings of JFB, and the casual fan would be furious.

[Choctaw Hog]

With all the UA system Alumni we have it NC texas you would think we could do something to help open up the Pipeline to UA.

We lost that pipeline when we moved to the SEC.  Used to we could tell a Tx kid he would get to play 8 games a year aginst Texas teams, 4 in the state of Texas.  And, if they won the SWC, they would get to go play on Jan 1 in the Cotton Bowl. 

That's a convenient excuse the apologists like to use.  A quick glance of the LSU roster indicates they have 11 players from Texas and they don't play 8 games a year against Texas teams.  How do you explain that? 

Thats what happens when you win Real Championships.

Exactly!  I've never been one to buy into having to play Texas teams or playing in Texas to get Texas players.  Just look at the rosters of some of the better teams and you will find a sprinkling of Texas players on several of them.  Florida State has 5 players from Texas and I can't remember the last time FSU played in Texas or against a Texas team.  They are playing for a coach and a system, not becasuse FSU is playing in the state of Texas.

[Break & Run]

Texas would rule the college football realm EVERY YEAR...probably go undefeated...EVERY YEAR

[AFWarrior83]

"MOST" top recruits from California, Texas, Florida, Alabama, Louisanna stay in thier home state. Arkansas can't afford to let their top talent escape like the bigger states. We usually get Texas left overs... (Not saying that that's a bad thing, just saying)

[Sao Ming]

We would be in a world of hurt

The OU sooners would become the new Baylor of the Big 12 South!

Schools like OU, Ar, and tons of others need kids from out of state much more than they need to keep a few in state.  I AM NOT SAYING NOT TO RECRUIT YOUR OWN STATE. I am simply pointing out the fact that kids do leave their states, and how glad I am that they do. 

I understand what your saying but the fact is Bob Stoops would be in Tears if the Ncaa said no more Texas boys for you!

I agree.  If Stoops had to field a team with nothing but Oklahoma kids, he would leave in about 30 seconds.

The meat of your assessment as it relates to UA football is above.  Stoops knows what he has to do to compete nationally and succeeds at signing amazing talent from all over the country on a consistent basis.  Until a HC has that type of drive and pride here, we are who we are.  Let's face it, the kids would come if they were coming to play for a winner and those kids need to come from out of state for the large part.

[hogsanity]

We would be in a world of hurt

The OU sooners would become the new Baylor of the Big 12 South!

Schools like OU, Ar, and tons of others need kids from out of state much more than they need to keep a few in state.  I AM NOT SAYING NOT TO RECRUIT YOUR OWN STATE. I am simply pointing out the fact that kids do leave their states, and how glad I am that they do. 

I understand what your saying but the fact is Bob Stoops would be in Tears if the Ncaa said no more Texas boys for you!

I agree.  If Stoops had to field a team with nothing but Oklahoma kids, he would leave in about 30 seconds.

The meat of your assessment as it relates to UA football is above.  Stoops knows what he has to do to compete nationally and succeeds at signing amazing talent from all over the country on a consistent basis.  Until a HC has that type of drive and pride here, we are who we are.  Let's face it, the kids would come if they were coming to play for a winner and those kids need to come from out of state for the large part.

I don't disagree.  That is exactly my point.  This program, the Uof A, the body of it, is going to be built from outside the state, with certain componenets coming from within.

[Choctaw Hog]

With all the UA system Alumni we have it NC texas you would think we could do something to help open up the Pipeline to UA.

We lost that pipeline when we moved to the SEC.  Used to we could tell a Tx kid he would get to play 8 games a year aginst Texas teams, 4 in the state of Texas.  And, if they won the SWC, they would get to go play on Jan 1 in the Cotton Bowl. 

That's a convenient excuse the apologists like to use.  A quick glance of the LSU roster indicates they have 11 players from Texas and they don't play 8 games a year against Texas teams.  How do you explain that? 

Location would be part of it....LSU is less than 300 miles from the greater Houston area.  So a player can have his friends/family watch him play more often b/c its an easy drive, as opposed to having to drive to the UofA. 

Obviously, Houston (5 of the 11 players) is about 300 miles closer to Baton Rouge than it is to Fayetteville.  It's about the same distance (within 30 miles) for the 2 players from Tyler.  The remaining 4 of the 11 are closer to Fayetteville than they are to Baton Rouge (most by 100 miles or more). 

How close is Tallahassee to Texas?  FSU has five players from Texas on their roster.  I believe more and more that players are playing for a coach and a system and distance is becoming less important.

[budcampbellfan]

The whole original premise is wrong.  What if all the 4 and 5 star Tx and Fla kids left their states?  That is the real question and is what happens in Arkansas.

[hogsanity]

The whole original premise is wrong.  What if all the 4 and 5 star Tx and Fla kids left their states?  That is the real question and is what happens in Arkansas.

HMMMMMMM, lets see we lose MAYBE 4, POTENTIAL, SEC DIFFERENCE MAKERS from our state.  Many Tx or Fl HS have that many on one team. 

[Purple Tiger]

With all the UA system Alumni we have it NC texas you would think we could do something to help open up the Pipeline to UA.

We lost that pipeline when we moved to the SEC.  Used to we could tell a Tx kid he would get to play 8 games a year aginst Texas teams, 4 in the state of Texas.  And, if they won the SWC, they would get to go play on Jan 1 in the Cotton Bowl. 

That's a convenient excuse the apologists like to use.  A quick glance of the LSU roster indicates they have 11 players from Texas and they don't play 8 games a year against Texas teams.  How do you explain that? 

Thats what happens when you win Real Championships.

Exactly!  I've never been one to buy into having to play Texas teams or playing in Texas to get Texas players.  Just look at the rosters of some of the better teams and you will find a sprinkling of Texas players on several of them.  Florida State has 5 players from Texas and I can't remember the last time FSU played in Texas or against a Texas team.  They are playing for a coach and a system, not becasuse FSU is playing in the state of Texas.

FSU would be good if they never left their recruiting base. The Texas kids are just a bonus.Arkansas does not have a strong recruiting base. OU has Dallas. LSU has Louisiana. Bama has Alabama.

[Hawglover888]

We only want kids who want to be Razorbacks

Everyone knows thats the best way to recruit.

Leave it to you to take a pretty good thread and turn it into the same old rant.

[Choctaw Hog]

With all the UA system Alumni we have it NC texas you would think we could do something to help open up the Pipeline to UA.

We lost that pipeline when we moved to the SEC.  Used to we could tell a Tx kid he would get to play 8 games a year aginst Texas teams, 4 in the state of Texas.  And, if they won the SWC, they would get to go play on Jan 1 in the Cotton Bowl. 

That's a convenient excuse the apologists like to use.  A quick glance of the LSU roster indicates they have 11 players from Texas and they don't play 8 games a year against Texas teams.  How do you explain that? 

Thats what happens when you win Real Championships.

Exactly!  I've never been one to buy into having to play Texas teams or playing in Texas to get Texas players.  Just look at the rosters of some of the better teams and you will find a sprinkling of Texas players on several of them.  Florida State has 5 players from Texas and I can't remember the last time FSU played in Texas or against a Texas team.  They are playing for a coach and a system, not because FSU is playing in the state of Texas.

FSU would be good if they never left their recruiting base. The Texas kids are just a bonus.Arkansas does not have a strong recruiting base. OU has Dallas. LSU has Louisiana. Bama has Alabama.

No doubt the FSU would be good without any other players from outside Florida but that's my point, a lot of players play for a coach and a system.  I'm from Oklahoma and I know the how effective OU recruits Texas.  However, OU recruits Nationally as well because players want to play for Stoops.  OU currently has 25 players on their roster from: LA (5), FL (1), OH (1), GA (2), NV (3), AZ (2), CO (2), CA (2), IL (1), MI (2), SC (1), VA (1), NJ (1), and NC (1).

[EastexHawg]

The state of Texas produces more highly recruited, BCS conference caliber prospects than its BCS conference programs can sign.  The state of Florida does likewise, as does California.

The state of Arkansas does not.

On the other hand, the state of Arkansas only has one major, BCS conference program within its borders...while Texas, Florida, and California have three or four big time schools among which to divide prospects' loyalties.

Bob Stoops has overcome the "disadvantages" of coaching in a state that does not produce an overabundance of big time high school talent.  Barry Switzer and Bud Wilkinson did the same before him.  Howard Schnellenberger, Gary Gibbs, and John Blake were unable to duplicate their more successful colleagues' success.

Bob Devaney and Tom Osborne did the same in Nebraska.  Frank Solich was moderately successful, while the jury remains out on whether Bill Callahan will be able to build a national power in Lincoln.

Some coaches have it, others don't.  Winners smile and tell jokes, while losers make excuses. 

[Choctaw Hog]

The state of Texas produces more highly recruited, BCS conference caliber prospects than its BCS conference programs can sign.  The state of Florida does likewise, as does California.

The state of Arkansas does not.

On the other hand, the state of Arkansas only has one major, BCS conference program within its borders...while Texas, Florida, and California have three or four big time schools among which to divide prospects' loyalties.

Bob Stoops has overcome the "disadvantages" of coaching in a state that does not produce an overabundance of big time high school talent.  Barry Switzer and Bud Wilkinson did the same before him.  Howard Schnellenberger, Gary Gibbs, and John Blake were unable to duplicate their more successful colleagues' success.

Bob Devaney and Tom Osborne did the same in Nebraska.  Frank Solich was moderately successful, while the jury remains out on whether Bill Callahan will be able to build a national power in Lincoln.

Some coaches have it, others don't.  Winners smile and tell jokes, while losers make excuses. 

I believe you nailed it.  Arkansas does has some disadvantages, but we also have one big advantage, in that we are "the only game in town".  If Arkansas got the vast majority of our top players and compliment them with several top players from outside of Arkansas, I believe we could consistently be a Top 15 team.  If the right coach was here I truly believe we would get our fair share of top players from outside the state. 

There is also one other recruiting dynamic in play that is seldom discussed and that is the ever expanding direct flights into and out of XNA from major cities.  It may not come into play much but it may help some cases.  I just purchased a round trip ticket from XNA to New Orleans (leave on Tuesday and return on Sunday) for $283, including taxes.  XNA is no more that 30 minutes max to the Arkansas campus. 

[hogsanity]

The state of Texas produces more highly recruited, BCS conference caliber prospects than its BCS conference programs can sign.  The state of Florida does likewise, as does California.

The state of Arkansas does not.

On the other hand, the state of Arkansas only has one major, BCS conference program within its borders...while Texas, Florida, and California have three or four big time schools among which to divide prospects' loyalties.

Bob Stoops has overcome the "disadvantages" of coaching in a state that does not produce an overabundance of big time high school talent.  Barry Switzer and Bud Wilkinson did the same before him.  Howard Schnellenberger, Gary Gibbs, and John Blake were unable to duplicate their more successful colleagues' success.

Bob Devaney and Tom Osborne did the same in Nebraska.  Frank Solich was moderately successful, while the jury remains out on whether Bill Callahan will be able to build a national power in Lincoln.

Some coaches have it, others don't.  Winners smile and tell jokes, while losers make excuses. 

Yep Osborne did it by RUNNING THE BALL.  WHY?  Because it is easier to get linmen and Rb's than it is to get the type of Wr's and Qb's you need to make a passing game work. 

[Choctaw Hog]

The state of Texas produces more highly recruited, BCS conference caliber prospects than its BCS conference programs can sign.  The state of Florida does likewise, as does California.

The state of Arkansas does not.

On the other hand, the state of Arkansas only has one major, BCS conference program within its borders...while Texas, Florida, and California have three or four big time schools among which to divide prospects' loyalties.

Bob Stoops has overcome the "disadvantages" of coaching in a state that does not produce an overabundance of big time high school talent.  Barry Switzer and Bud Wilkinson did the same before him.  Howard Schnellenberger, Gary Gibbs, and John Blake were unable to duplicate their more successful colleagues' success.

Bob Devaney and Tom Osborne did the same in Nebraska.  Frank Solich was moderately successful, while the jury remains out on whether Bill Callahan will be able to build a national power in Lincoln.

Some coaches have it, others don't.  Winners smile and tell jokes, while losers make excuses. 

Yep Osborne did it by RUNNING THE BALL.  WHY?  Because it is easier to get linmen and Rb's than it is to get the type of Wr's and Qb's you need to make a passing game work. 

Bill Yeoman at Houston had great success with the Veer also until defenses began to adjust to it.  Good coaches adapt, inept ones do not.

[311Hog]

The state of Texas produces more highly recruited, BCS conference caliber prospects than its BCS conference programs can sign.  The state of Florida does likewise, as does California.

The state of Arkansas does not.

On the other hand, the state of Arkansas only has one major, BCS conference program within its borders...while Texas, Florida, and California have three or four big time schools among which to divide prospects' loyalties.

Bob Stoops has overcome the "disadvantages" of coaching in a state that does not produce an overabundance of big time high school talent.  Barry Switzer and Bud Wilkinson did the same before him.  Howard Schnellenberger, Gary Gibbs, and John Blake were unable to duplicate their more successful colleagues' success.

Bob Devaney and Tom Osborne did the same in Nebraska.  Frank Solich was moderately successful, while the jury remains out on whether Bill Callahan will be able to build a national power in Lincoln.

Some coaches have it, others don't.  Winners smile and tell jokes, while losers make excuses. 

Yep Osborne did it by RUNNING THE BALL.  WHY?  Because it is easier to get linmen and Rb's than it is to get the type of Wr's and Qb's you need to make a passing game work. 

He also had two qb's win the Heisman.

[PulledPork]

what if the sky was green?




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[DeltaBoy]

The state of Texas produces more highly recruited, BCS conference caliber prospects than its BCS conference programs can sign.  The state of Florida does likewise, as does California.

The state of Arkansas does not.

On the other hand, the state of Arkansas only has one major, BCS conference program within its borders...while Texas, Florida, and California have three or four big time schools among which to divide prospects' loyalties.

Bob Stoops has overcome the "disadvantages" of coaching in a state that does not produce an overabundance of big time high school talent.  Barry Switzer and Bud Wilkinson did the same before him.  Howard Schnellenberger, Gary Gibbs, and John Blake were unable to duplicate their more successful colleagues' success.

Bob Devaney and Tom Osborne did the same in Nebraska.  Frank Solich was moderately successful, while the jury remains out on whether Bill Callahan will be able to build a national power in Lincoln.

Some coaches have it, others don't.  Winners smile and tell jokes, while losers make excuses. 

Yep Frank and Houston are full of excuses
1. We are the 8th or 9th rated program in the SEC
2. We can't get a Top tier coach at the UA.
3. Wait until next year.
4. We are working on the passing game this Spring ( last 9 years).

[cbjagman]

or Louisiana kids never left Louisiana?  College Fb would be a lot different.  Seriously, imagine if the top 100 kids in Texas all stayed in state.  It would change the face of college football.  College football, as a whole, needs kids to leave their home states and spread the talent around, unfortuantly, that also means top talent, in states that may only produce 10 or so BCS calibre players, will also move around. 

Which would you rather have, a college football scene where no one ever left their home state, or one in which the talent does get spread around. 

I'd rather have the Hogs keep all the in-state player they want and go get the best players out of both Florida and Texas. That way we'd be helping spread the top talent around.