Why hire Mike Norvell

[WPSALLDAY]

He is winning because of Justin Fuentes excuse spelling if wrong. What has this guy actually done? No SEC EXPERIENCE, what's the difference and what's the catch? We're stupid if we hire this guy

[RME]

So you're calling for the hiring of a coordinator who has never been a head coach but saying no to a head coach who has proven he can win as a head coach.

By your logic of Norvell winning with Fuentes' players, Venables has only won because of Dabo. Venables doesn't have SEC experience either.

I'm a fan of Venables above Norvell, but this logic is off.

[Elguapo501]

He beat ole miss with Memphis good enough for me

[Grag T]

No SEC experience means jack dick.

At some point in time, every single coach in the SEC had no SEC experience.

[Billy Bats]

What would really make us stupid is signing another awful contract with a HC. 

[ballz2thewall]

question to the OP.

do you think he'd be better than bielema in terms of wins and losses in the next 3 years?

and please avoid something like "i don't know; remains to be seen".

will you answer this question? it's your opinion, so there's no right or wrong answer.....

[WPSALLDAY]

You're right about the logic, but the intagebles like Venables fire similar to mitts at the beginning is something the whole state will get behind. I️ don't think Norvell
Could get the same staff either, he's not as respected. There isn't much diffeeence in being the head coach at Memphis as being the dcoordinator at Clemson right now.

[Tusks]

How many windows do some of you guys have open, 10?

[HoggieStyle]

No SEC experience means jack dick.

Quite correct.

Butch Jones has SEC experience. Kevin Sumlin has SEC experience. Jim McElwain has SEC experience. Hugh Freeze has SEC experience. Bret Bielema has SEC experience.

See where this is going?

[sickboy]

You take a chance on those guys hoping they'll be the next big thing. That's how this coach hiring thing works. Unless you're hiring someone who washed up at a bigger school, they're all unproven as SEC coaches.

Hell, we hired Bielema while he was at his peak at a big school and that didn't help one bit. It's a crapshoot all around.

[WPSALLDAY]

You look at the pedigree. Look at Kirby, look at Venables it's there. It would translate here, I️ think Venables is the right fit not Norvell

[RME]

Quite correct.

Butch Jones has SEC experience. Kevin Sumlin has SEC experience. Jim McElwain has SEC experience. Hugh Freeze has SEC experience. Bret Bielema has SEC experience.

See where this is going?

John L Smith has SEC experience 

[HoggieStyle]

John L Smith has SEC experience 

That's the spirit!

[1highhog]

He is winning because of Justin Fuentes excuse spelling if wrong. What has this guy actually done? No SEC EXPERIENCE, what’s the difference and what’s the catch? We’re stupid if we hire this guy

Nick Saban didn't have SEC experience either.  I guess they shouldn't have hired him,,,

[PolishPigPower]

I'll let the Memphis press guide speak for me:

It's just that ... just that ... well, let's allow a few of Norvell's first-year accomplishments speak for themselves:

Most wins by a first-year head coach in program history (
First head coach to lead the Tigers to bowl eligibility in his rookie season
First rookie head coach since 1984 to win his Tigers' debut (35-17 over Southeast Missouri)
First rookie head coach to have a win over a ranked opponent since 1975 (48-44 win over No. 18/21 Houston)
First rookie head coach to start 3-0 in Memphis program history
Tied for third-most wins ( by an FBS first-year head coach in 2016 (Toledo's Jason Candle, BYU's Kalani Sitake both led FBS with nine wins)
Pulled in the school's highest-rated recruiting class in February of 2017; signing class also was the best outside the Power 5 leagues
Named the 2016 Tennessee Sports Writers Association (TSWA) Coach of the Year in a vote by the state's media members

The 2016 Memphis offense was the second most-prolific in program history behind only 2015, rolling up the second-most total yards (6,028) and scoring the second-most points (505) for a season in school history. The Memphis offense also scored the second-most touchdowns (57) for a campaign in program history, including a school season-record 34 touchdown passes. The Tigers' 3,957 passing yards and 303 completions both were the third-most for a season in school history. All of this was done with a first-year QB and no "go-to" receiver.

His 2015 Arizona State offense ranked 23rd in total offense (473.8 ypg) and 20th in passing yards (289.0 ypg) in FBS. In 2014, the Sun Devils offense was 16th in scoring offense (37.0 ppg) and 13th in touchdown passes (34). That offense piled up 5,750 total yards (2,194 rush/3,556 pass). The 2013 Arizona State offense ranked 10th nationally in scoring offense (39.7 ppg).  (Todd Graham, in his second season without Norvell, was fired).

He's a UCA grad with a cutie wife from Fort Smith and a daughter.  Also, to the best of the word on the street, he doesn't own a motorcycle and can't chug a fifth of Tito's on I-49 between Alma and The Hill.

[PolishPigPower]

Nick Saban didn't have SEC experience either.  I guess they shouldn't have hired him,,,

We're talking LSU Nick and not Bama Nick, right?

[Billy Bats]

Nick Saban didn't have SEC experience either.  I guess they shouldn't have hired him,,,

He won a Natty at LSU. 

[WPSALLDAY]

Not his players

[HoggieStyle]

Saban was 34-24-1 in 5 seasons at Michigan State. Didn't exactly look stellar but LSU hired him sans SEC experience.

At LSU, he was 48-16, which doesn't look all that stellar but included a NC. Would you settle for that record if it included a NC once every 5-10 years?

[Hoggie17]

No SEC experience means jack dick.

At some point in time, every single coach in the SEC had no SEC experience.

Tell that to CBB.

[majp51]

He is winning because of Justin Fuentes excuse spelling if wrong. What has this guy actually done? No SEC EXPERIENCE, what's the difference and what's the catch? We're stupid if we hire this guy

Look , I'm not sold on Norvell, that being said the reason for excitement should he be hired is his philosophy plays into the talent we can readily muster in our geographic location. That means his gameplan has a real chance for success in Fayetteville, and would likely get us at least back to the HDN W-L records, with a shot for even higher.

[DeltaBoy]

He wins with the talent we got in state and around us..

[Brass Knob]

Not his players

Many of the players on this years team are actually his players, do a little research... Beyond that, he has done nothing but come in and win at a higher level than Fuente and recruit at a much higher level than any Memphis coach previously. He is not simply riding the coat tails and trying to bail because he knows the house of cards will fall in on him in a year or two...

[texas tush hog]

Not his players

He is winning because of Justin Fuentes excuse spelling if wrong. What has this guy actually done? No SEC EXPERIENCE, what's the difference and what's the catch? We're stupid if we hire this guy

Riley Ferguson never played for Fuentes, recruited by Norvell, Anthony Miller was a walkon and never played for Fuentes. T.J. Carter, the best DB for Memphis and in the conference is a true freshman recruited by Norvell. Their are 50 freshman or redshirt Freshman on the roster as well as 26 sophomores or redshirt sophomores on the roster. That is 76 players who never played for Fuentes in addition to the aforementioned All-American candidates, Ferguson and Miller who never played for Fuentes. In addition his current recruiting class is reportedly the best in Memphis history. I don't see how you can say Norvell is winning with Fuentes players. Just does not hold water.

[OS2 (SW) Razor Back]

His team has beaten the like of Southern Illinois, Tulane,Tulsa,SMU,Houston and UConn,Navy, ULL and the mighty UCLA.

[Tusks]

Ferguson was recruited HARD by Enos and Ferguson liked Norvell better.

[isavedjazz]

He is winning because of Justin Fuentes excuse spelling if wrong. What has this guy actually done? No SEC EXPERIENCE, what's the difference and what's the catch? We're stupid if we hire this guy

Bad take.

Nick Saban, Les Miles, and Urban Meyer had no SEC experience either.

[WPSALLDAY]

Riley Ferguson never played for Fuentes, recruited by Norvell, Anthony Miller was a walkon and never played for Fuentes. T.J. Carter, the best DB for Memphis and in the conference is a true freshman recruited by Norvell. Their are 50 freshman or redshirt Freshman on the roster as well as 26 sophomores or redshirt sophomores on the roster. That is 76 players who never played for Fuentes in addition to the aforementioned All-American candidates, Ferguson and Miller who never played for Fuentes. In addition his current recruiting class is reportedly the best in Memphis history. I don't see how you can say Norvell is winning with Fuentes players. Just does not hold water.

Maybe you're right. Don't have the time to verify, but he's gotta play d too. I️ will support him if he's the coach, but the programs, games and product Venables has put on the field on the defensive side is quite impressive. I feel like Venables is more respected amongst assistants which would be crucial in competing in the SEC we have to to have a great staff.

[Pig in the Pokey]

He is winning because of Justin Fuentes excuse spelling if wrong. What has this guy actually done? No SEC EXPERIENCE, what's the difference and what's the catch? We're stupid if we hire this guy

maybe learn a little something about him first, dude. MY GOD.

[Brass Knob]

His team has beaten the like of Southern Illinois, Tulane,Tulsa,SMU,Houston and UConn,Navy, ULL and the mighty UCLA.

Beating the teams they are supposed to beat and leading the country in points per game while doing it...

[Pig in the Pokey]

No SEC experience means jack dick.

At some point in time, every single coach in the SEC had no SEC experience.

he beat ole Miss when they were top 10.

[texas tush hog]

His team has beaten the like of Southern Illinois, Tulane,Tulsa,SMU,Houston and UConn,Navy, ULL and the mighty UCLA.

All better than Coastal Carolina, who whipped us every where but on the scoreboard. Facts just mess you up.

[IronHog]

His team has beaten the like of Southern Illinois, Tulane,Tulsa,SMU,Houston and UConn,Navy, ULL and the mighty UCLA.

Remember he's at Memphis State


Everyone they play is a better program

[Tim Harris]

even if they were players from the previous staff why would that be considered a bad thing?  75% of our roster next year will be Bielemas players.....we need someone who can win with them while molding the team to fit what they want long term.

[Brass Knob]

Maybe you're right. Don't have the time to verify, but he's gotta play d too. I️ will support him if he's the coach, but the programs, games and product Venables has put on the field on the defensive side is quite impressive. I feel like Venables is more respected amongst assistants which would be crucial in competing in the SEC we have to to have a great staff.

It is really tough to build a defense in a year and half, especially with the injuries they have had on defense this year. Again, do some research before posting. He has focused heavily on recruiting defensive players to correct that issue.

[Billy Bats]

Maybe you're right. Don't have the time to verify, but he's gotta play d too. I️ will support him if he's the coach, but the programs, games and product Venables has put on the field on the defensive side is quite impressive. I feel like Venables is more respected amongst assistants which would be crucial in competing in the SEC we have to to have a great staff.

Update your iPhone.  It'll get rid of that "A box exclamation" situation you have happening.

[Brass Knob]

he beat ole Miss when they were top 10.

That was actually Justin Fuente in his last season at Memphis...

[OS2 (SW) Razor Back]

he beat ole Miss when they were top 10.

Fuentes team did that.

[The Boar War]

He is winning because of Justin Fuentes excuse spelling if wrong.

Things at Memphis didn't turn around until he met with Norvell to learn his offense.  Maybe Fuente is winning because of Norvell.

[OS2 (SW) Razor Back]

All better than Coastal Carolina, who whipped us every where but on the scoreboard. Facts just mess you up.

That a pretty low bar man.

[Hawgey-Davidson]

I'll let the Memphis press guide speak for me:

It's just that ... just that ... well, let's allow a few of Norvell's first-year accomplishments speak for themselves:

Most wins by a first-year head coach in program history (
First head coach to lead the Tigers to bowl eligibility in his rookie season
First rookie head coach since 1984 to win his Tigers' debut (35-17 over Southeast Missouri)
First rookie head coach to have a win over a ranked opponent since 1975 (48-44 win over No. 18/21 Houston)
First rookie head coach to start 3-0 in Memphis program history
Tied for third-most wins ( by an FBS first-year head coach in 2016 (Toledo's Jason Candle, BYU's Kalani Sitake both led FBS with nine wins)
Pulled in the school's highest-rated recruiting class in February of 2017; signing class also was the best outside the Power 5 leagues
Named the 2016 Tennessee Sports Writers Association (TSWA) Coach of the Year in a vote by the state's media members

The 2016 Memphis offense was the second most-prolific in program history behind only 2015, rolling up the second-most total yards (6,028) and scoring the second-most points (505) for a season in school history. The Memphis offense also scored the second-most touchdowns (57) for a campaign in program history, including a school season-record 34 touchdown passes. The Tigers' 3,957 passing yards and 303 completions both were the third-most for a season in school history. All of this was done with a first-year QB and no "go-to" receiver.

His 2015 Arizona State offense ranked 23rd in total offense (473.8 ypg) and 20th in passing yards (289.0 ypg) in FBS. In 2014, the Sun Devils offense was 16th in scoring offense (37.0 ppg) and 13th in touchdown passes (34). That offense piled up 5,750 total yards (2,194 rush/3,556 pass). The 2013 Arizona State offense ranked 10th nationally in scoring offense (39.7 ppg).  (Todd Graham, in his second season without Norvell, was fired).

He's a UCA grad with a cutie wife from Fort Smith and a daughter.  Also, to the best of the word on the street, he doesn't own a motorcycle and can't chug a fifth of Tito's on I-49 between Alma and The Hill.

I hope he's our guy. I know several big time UM boosters that are deeply connected. They interact with Coach Norvell on a regular basis. They can't say enough good things about him and they have been around the program for decades. He's the best they have ever had and been around. They understand that he will be hired away. No animosity whatsoever on their part and understand their place in CFB. Btw, they think he's ours. I sure hope so.

[Tusks]

The formula

Hire an offensive HC that can win some games by out scoring the other team and build some winning in the program.  Then while getting some wins, go out and recruit a defense

its a process.  HC at this level don't just ignore, well most HC, don't ignore all 3 phases of the game.  But you can't recruit great defensive players if you're going 4-8 every year.

[Gonzo]

How many windows do some of you guys have open, 10?

10 - 12

I'm actually 7 of the people in here right now, having an argument with myself. I think I'm winning though


Go Hogs!

[East Clintwood]

How many windows do some of you guys have open, 10?

I've got over 140 tabs open on 2 computers.

[Pig in the Pokey]

Fuentes team did that.

who's offense?

[Pig in the Pokey]

Things at Memphis didn't turn around until he met with Norvell to learn his offense.  Maybe Fuente is winning because of Norvell.

ding ding ding.

[Tigerfan11]

He is winning because of Justin Fuentes excuse spelling if wrong. What has this guy actually done? No SEC EXPERIENCE, what's the difference and what's the catch? We're stupid if we hire this guy

QB- feruson- norvell
RB- taylor- norvell
T- tate- fuente
G- woodard- norvell
C- kyser- fuente
G- kuhn- fuente
T- joseph- norvell
TE- magnicifo - norvell
WR- miller- walk on but i guess you can give credit to fuente?
WR- mayhue- fuente
WR- coxie- norvell

DE- johnson- fuente
NT- goodson- norvell
DT- swamp doney- norvell
KAT- avery- fuente
MIKE- hart- norvell
WILL- akins- fuente
STAR-hall- norvell
CB- carter- norvell
FS- cook- fuente
SS- perry- norvell
CB- windham- norvell

p-smith- fuente
k-patterson- norvell
ls- choate- norvell
h-evans -fuente
pr- williams- norvell
kr- The Tony Pollard- Norvell

so 11/28 players are Fuente... id even argue anthony miller should be a norvell guy given he didnt succeed until he was a Jr, which was with Norvell. so no. hes not really winning with fuente guys

[NaturalStateReb]

He is winning because of Justin Fuentes excuse spelling if wrong. What has this guy actually done? No SEC EXPERIENCE, what's the difference and what's the catch? We're stupid if we hire this guy

He's a good coach, and he's shown he can develop QBs.  He's a young guy, he's got some Arkansas ties.  You can probably hire him for $3.5-$4 million, which is a pretty good deal.  Assuming that there aren't any background problems, he's a good hire among the up-and-comers.

The downs are that there isn't much of a resume there--no SEC experience or experience at a major P5 program.  I'm not sure what level of assistants he would bring.

[NaturalStateReb]

QB- feruson- norvell
RB- taylor- norvell
T- tate- fuente
G- woodard- norvell
C- kyser- fuente
G- kuhn- fuente
T- joseph- norvell
TE- magnicifo - norvell
WR- miller- walk on but i guess you can give credit to fuente?
WR- mayhue- fuente
WR- coxie- norvell

DE- johnson- fuente
NT- goodson- norvell
DT- swamp doney- norvell
KAT- avery- fuente
MIKE- hart- norvell
WILL- akins- fuente
STAR-hall- norvell
CB- carter- norvell
FS- cook- fuente
SS- perry- norvell
CB- windham- norvell

p-smith- fuente
k-patterson- norvell
ls- choate- norvell
h-evans -fuente
pr- williams- norvell
kr- The Tony Pollard- Norvell

so 11/28 players are Fuente... id even argue anthony miller should be a norvell guy given he didnt succeed until he was a Jr, which was with Norvell. so no. hes not really winning with fuente guys

Agree--it's not just all Fuente guys.  Fuente's been gone basically for 2 years now.

[Tigerfan11]

His team has beaten the like of Southern Illinois, Tulane,Tulsa,SMU,Houston and UConn,Navy, ULL and the mighty UCLA.

SOS ranks arkansas at 52, memphis at 68. hard to crap on a SOS when youre 14 spots higher, and have a losing record. Norvell would help your program...

https://www.teamrankings.com/college-football/ranking/schedule-strength-by-other