The Oracle (Porkatarian) has spoken in MMQ

[FATHAWG08]

I don't care who. I just want to Win!!

[Exit Pursued by a Boar]

BP's offense didn't get shut down by Elite SEC defenses.

We did quite well against Auburn and good enough to split with LSU (though our defense never really did well against them), but Bama pretty much skunked us:

2008 we got 14 points
2009 we got 7
2010 we got 20
2011 we got 14

EFBAB

[WilsonHog]

And in more curious news, per Pork, there is a lot of noise around Tommy Tuberville right now. Interesting.

[hawgball40]

We did quite well against Auburn and good enough to split with LSU (though our defense never really did well against them), but Bama pretty much skunked us:

2008 we got 14 points
2009 we got 7
2010 we got 20
2011 we got 14

EFBAB

IIRC, our 2010 matchup with bama was before the emergence of knile davis. Also, our offense did enough to win the game(we had the lead by a lot in the 4th quarter), but our defense was grossly out matched and mark ingram ran all over us all game long and it paid off for them late in the game when our defense was gassed. I think if knile davis was established we would have been able to run the ball, and thus keep their defense more honest and potentially produce more points. As an aside, our 2014 defense held bama to 14 points i believe, and it featured many of petrinos defensive recruits. just a noteworthy tidbit

[porkrindjimmy]

And in more curious news, per Pork, there is a lot of noise around Tommy Tuberville right now. Interesting.

Who is the next name that will be trotted out? Nutt? So it's Scanlon, Varady, Trainor or Tubs...?

Solid...

PRJ

[WilsonHog]

Who is the next name that will be trotted out? Nutt? So it's Scanlon, Varady, Trainor or Tubs...?

Solid...

PRJ

Looks like perhaps being the UA AD while living in Little Rock was a non-starter.

[porkrindjimmy]

Looks like perhaps being the UA AD while living in Little Rock was a non-starter.

That's why I have heard Varaday from the start.

PRJ

[welchog]

In short, for purposes of this forum:

(1) Malzahn (his job to turn down);
(2) Norvell (a solid #2);
(3) Leach (has heavy hitters in his corner, so he may be gaining).

I still believe that the tale will be told Saturday, to a great extent. To me, the critical piece of leaked information was that Auburn is exploring Bobby Petrino as a back-up plan should Malzahn accept the Arkansas job.

Why would that leak? What would be the purpose? Not to bluff Malzahn, because he already has another job lined up, one that will likely pay him more, if he wants it. I see that piece of information as communicating to Malzahn, "Take your ass on down the road. We already are talking to your replacement," and to the Auburn fans, "No need to worry here. We're already ahead of this."

Exactly why we should do the audacious thing and HIRE BP NOW!!!

[Sivad]

If we get GM and AU gets BP, did we win?

No.

[Sivad]

And in more curious news, per Pork, there is a lot of noise around Tommy Tuberville right now. Interesting.

And promising.

[jgphillips3]

Tommy T and Gus would give us a heavy Auburn flavor.

[ur]

Who is the next name that will be trotted out? Nutt? So it's Scanlon, Varady, Trainor or Tubs...?

Solid...

PRJ

No Rochelle? He has a pretty good resume'

[ur]

If we get GM and AU gets BP, did we win?

No. Pretty good chance the DC stays at auburn. That combo would be brutal.

[fieldturf]

Oh, there is most definitely a serious contingency trying to get him in Fayetteville. If he isn't our next head football coach, it will be for one reason only: he doesn't want to be. Otherwise, the man only needs to say one word: "Yes."

That's some good news on Thanksgiving Eve.  Thanks Ark Traveler

[SchrodingersHog]

We did quite well against Auburn and good enough to split with LSU (though our defense never really did well against them), but Bama pretty much skunked us:

2008 we got 14 points
2009 we got 7
2010 we got 20
2011 we got 14

EFBAB

With the level of talent that Auburn gets (however Auburn does that), BP would give Saban fits.

With Petrino at Auburn and Gus at Arkansas, Saban might just decide to retire, and the Arkansas-Auburn games will be anything but boring.

[duckman]

Tommy T and Gus would give us a heavy Auburn flavor.

They probably know where the bodies are buried too...

[hawgball40]

Exactly why we should do the audacious thing and HIRE BP NOW!!!

we could dream. but some say he is washed up now. his offense hasn't been very great, louisville is mediocre on both sides of the ball, and look at this recruiting: https://louisville.247sports.com/Season/2018-Football/Commits

[King Kong]

If we get GM and AU gets BP, did we win?

Well we would win in the fact that we get a coach that help us start winning consistently again.

But yeah Auburn gets the better coach

[Boarsnest]

Tommy T and Gus would give us a heavy Auburn flavor.

That combination will be interesting, I just don't see that working very well.

[Hawg Life]

That combination will be interesting, I just don't see that working very well.

0.0% chance of either one, but I'd rather call TT AD than ever call Gus coach @ Arkansas.

[WilsonHog]

0.0% chance of either one, but I'd rather call TT AD than ever call Gus coach @ Arkansas.

I will simply simply say that you are incorrect in your "0.0%" statement of fact, and leave it at that.

[HawgTide]

Leach would be a disaster.

Gus wouldn’t be accepted by a substantial portion of the fan base.

Norvell is a huge gamble.

Great list here guys.

Who is on your list?

[hawgon]

Tubs was pretty persuasive with his vision for the program at the LRTDC.  He was obviously auditioning for the job.

[Maddhog]

In short, for purposes of this forum:

(1) Malzahn (his job to turn down);
(2) Norvell (a solid #2);
(3) Leach (has heavy hitters in his corner, so he may be gaining).

I still believe that the tale will be told Saturday, to a great extent. To me, the critical piece of leaked information was that Auburn is exploring Bobby Petrino as a back-up plan should Malzahn accept the Arkansas job.

Why would that leak? What would be the purpose? Not to bluff Malzahn, because he already has another job lined up, one that will likely pay him more, if he wants it. I see that piece of information as communicating to Malzahn, "Take your ass on down the road. We already are talking to your replacement," and to the Auburn fans, "No need to worry here. We're already ahead of this."

Not that it matters but the "leak" about Petrino was not even a "leak".   An Alabama alum got that started after Arkansas began talking about hiring Gus.  AU fans discussed what a great team BP and KS would be.   My AU connection says they would never hire BP, however, because it would divide their base of support.   

[DeltaBoy]

I looking forward to the hire!

[Maddhog]

I looking forward to the hire!

I not.  😉

I've determined to not lose sleep over it, though.   Life is still good.

[wildhogman]

BP's offense didn't get shut down by Elite SEC defenses. I think Leaches offensive mind is on par with BP's... The enough defense is a concern though... Does his DC come with him if he comes, does he have a track record of building a defense from dumpster fires?? Who knows... I just think he gets a little bit of a bad rap.

I think we agree though that a defensive minded coach is what we need and he needs to hire a good OC that can spread out defenses.

didn't get shut down by elite defense?  Aubbie and bama 2010. LSWho and Bama in 2011.  Heck even a good Big10 D beat him(tat5).  How is he doing this year with a Heisman QB?   Name the Hog coach besides CBB that never beat  Alabama. Hint, he rides harelys, and occasionally rides then into ditches.

[MuskogeeHogFan]

BP's offense didn't get shut down by Elite SEC defenses. I think Leaches offensive mind is on par with BP's... The enough defense is a concern though... Does his DC come with him if he comes, does he have a track record of building a defense from dumpster fires?? Who knows... I just think he gets a little bit of a bad rap.

I think we agree though that a defensive minded coach is what we need and he needs to hire a good OC that can spread out defenses.

Check the progression of the Wash State total defense over the last 5 years. They were horrible but improved each of those years, were average last year and this year they are #11 in total defense. Would his DC come with him here? Unknown.

[Scott7703]

I will simply simply say that you are incorrect in your "0.0%" statement of fact, and leave it at that.

Just let him rant Wilson. He's been on this Gus denial hate train for days and regardless of what he's told or how many people back the info he continues the typing.

[HoggusMaximus]

I would take Tommy T as AD in a second.

[hawgon]

I sort of think that Gus does not come in the end.  He isn't ready for retirement obviously, but he can sort of see the end of the line.  Does he have goals?  Does he want to win a national championship?  If so, he is set up to make that run at Auburn over the next year or two if not this year.  I happen to think he could do it at Arkansas too, but he might could do it SOON at Auburn.  That is a lot to turn your back on.

So, I don't think the timing is right.  I know he gets tired of the year to year thing and wants to come home, but if he makes it through another couple of years at Auburn he might achieve one of his major professional goals and what happens after isn't all that important.

The influx of money into coaching has paradoxically removed money as a motivating factor for anything beyond ego.  They are all rich and will remain rich whether they take another job, are fired, or quit.  Even a guy like Norvell is making more than $2 million a year and could afford to stay in Memphis forever if he wanted. 

[jrulz83]

Who is on your list?

I would like a defensive minded candidate added to the mix.

Kiffin would be fine with me, and I know he's polarizing. I'm not going to get drawn into defending the messes he's made/gotten blamed for. His mistakes are well documented. I see potential in him but he's admittedly a big gamble. Now is probably not the time they take a gamble.

Venables would be someone to talk to, as would Grantham. I think Dave Aranda would be one to put on a list. I'm not sure a coordinator is the way to go though. There are short comings with everybody, it's about finding the right fit.

Gus is going to alienate a portion of the fanbase. The only argument I've seen against that is "Not if he wins." Easier said than done.

I think Leach would be a disaster, that offense only stuff isn't going to work. Same for Norvell. Everybody says, "He'll hire a good D coordinator." Well I've noticed with coaches that what is a weakness today stays a weakness tomorrow. Maybe he's different, but it's a big gamble and again it's probably not the time to gamble.

[Boarcephus]

The influx of money into coaching has paradoxically removed money as a motivating factor for anything beyond ego.  They are all rich and will remain rich whether they take another job, are fired, or quit.  Even a guy like Norvell is making more than $2 million a year and could afford to stay in Memphis forever if he wanted. 

All true but these guys are driven and Memphis is a stepping stone and not the destination while Arkansas could easily be a final destination for coach.  I cannot think of a single coach who willingly left Arkansas for a "better" job.  Hatfield, Sutton and Nutt all left but they were one step ahead of the posse. 

[Pork Twain]

Leach would be a disaster.

Gus wouldn’t be accepted by a substantial portion of the fan base.

Norvell is a huge gamble.

Great list here guys.

True

Only on Hogville, by people that would complain no matter what

Very much so because his teams do not know how to spell defense.

[online-with-swine]

Not that it matters but the "leak" about Petrino was not even a "leak".   An Alabama alum got that started after Arkansas began talking about hiring Gus.  AU fans discussed what a great team BP and KS would be.   My AU connection says they would never hire BP, however, because it would divide their base of support.   

Interesting that they worry about dividing their fan base yet the GOBN here dgaf with Gus.

[OneTuskOverTheLine™]

I would like a defensive minded candidate added to the mix.

Kiffin would be fine with me, and I know he's polarizing. I'm not going to get drawn into defending the messes he's made/gotten blamed for. His mistakes are well documented. I see potential in him but he's admittedly a big gamble. Now is probably not the time they take a gamble.

Venables would be someone to talk to, as would Grantham. I think Dave Aranda would be one to put on a list. I'm not sure a coordinator is the way to go though. There are short comings with everybody, it's about finding the right fit.

Gus is going to alienate a portion of the fanbase. The only argument I've seen against that is "Not if he wins." Easier said than done.

I think Leach would be a disaster, that offense only stuff isn't going to work. Same for Norvell. Everybody says, "He'll hire a good D coordinator." Well I've noticed with coaches that what is a weakness today stays a weakness tomorrow. Maybe he's different, but it's a big gamble and again it's probably not the time to gamble.

So you're a "There's no good move" type of guy... What do you think about keeping CBB..? 
Guessing that's a no. So I'm just gonna assert here that you are a "Glass half empty" personality caught in a perfect storm of speculation that allows you to peruse until you find an idea you want to piss on. Am I right..?

[hoghiker]

I hope Gus whips Bama. Good for him. Good for Hogs.

[MC_Hog]

Just let him rant Wilson. He's been on this Gus denial hate train for days and regardless of what he's told or how many people back the info he continues the typing.

Gus isn't coming

[Styflin]

Well we would win in the fact that we get a coach that help us start winning consistently again.

But yeah Auburn gets the better coach

Gus is in much better position than Bobby right now. After plenty of time for both coaches at their schools, it's not even close really.

[jimhog]

We do NOT need or want Leach.

[3kgthog]

Exactly why we should do the audacious thing and HIRE BP NOW!!!

I hate to tell you this, but Bum Phillips is no longer with us.

[WilsonHog]

Gus isn't coming

That depends.

[hawgbawb]

To me Malzhan feels like a lateral move at best, and the motivation is more about going home to a more forgiving, low pressure gig. Definitely lower expectations. Norvell, on the other hand, feels like a step up, and his motivation to prove himself might work to our advantage. He's probably hungrier.

[alohawg]

Wth, at this point I'd rather they try and bring Bobby back before he goes to Auburn and annually spanks Gus at Arkansas.

[Hawg Life]

Wth, at this point I'd rather they try and bring Bobby back before he goes to Auburn and annually spanks Gus at Arkansas.

Neither of those coaches will be @ those places. CBP probably goes to TN and Gus stays @ Auburn.

[WilsonHog]

Neither of those coaches will be @ those places. CBP probably goes to TN and Gus stays @ Auburn.

How certain are you that Gus stays at Auburn? Certain as in, you've spoken with him personally and he's told you that?

[jrulz83]

So you're a "There's no good move" type of guy... What do you think about keeping CBB..? 
Guessing that's a no. So I'm just gonna assert here that you are a "Glass half empty" personality caught in a perfect storm of speculation that allows you to peruse until you find an idea you want to piss on. Am I right..?

Did I or did I not say Kiffin would be fine with me?

[Hawg Life]

How certain are you that Gus stays at Auburn? Certain as in, you've spoken with him personally and he's told you that?

Yes. Also, he got verbals from 2 four stars today. We are being played by Sexton. Do you really believe we offered him $6.5 million?

[WilsonHog]

Yes. Also, he got verbals from 2 four stars today. We are being played by Sexton. Do you really believe we offered him $6.5 million?

I was just wondering, because you've made probably 100 posts all but guaranteeing that he will not be our next coach. So, if you are wrong what will your next move be? To never post again? To post under another account?

[DZ]

We do NOT need or want Leach.

Why? I haven't heard any logical reason from anyone that has followed him recently and not just going off of what they saw on youtube.