Don't blame Welsh for the out-of-bounds screwup

[mathhog]

I've been watching for years and even I was yelling at the tv to "run the baseline, we've got an open guy on the other side of the court!!!"

i know you cant run unless it's a made basket, but, if you'd have quizzed the entire arena the second of the throw-in, most people would say it was fine to run it.

i still prefer to rememer him stealing the play from the georgia co's whiteboard LOL

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EjRrYyfXHgM

[Pigonometry]

I do blame him --- he's the player and supposed to know the rules.

[jschulte]

I do blame him --- he's the player and supposed to know the rules.

not only that.. but a senior of all things!

[aristotle]

He's a senior.

And I knew that as a high school player. You can only run the baseline after a make, not after an out of bounds on any player.

[hogster23]

He is a scholarship player....know the situation!!!

[Hogsfan1981]

I did not get mad at him but he needs to learn to stay focused during those moments. That was a huge mistake because of the timing other than that it would not even have been talked about.

[ekyle1]

That video is funny, I don't care who you are!

[Dwight_K_Shrute]

He is a scholarship player....know the situation!!!

How would knowing this guy help Steph?

[yraciv]

He gets to go to school for free to play basketball. He has played more basketball since he joined the Razorbacks than most of you have in your life. The guy should know the rules!  Welsh played relatively well the rest of the game, but that was on him.

[CalHog]

I've been watching for years and even I was yelling at the tv to "run the baseline, we've got an open guy on the other side of the court!!!"

i know you cant run unless it's a made basket, but, if you'd have quizzed the entire arena the second of the throw-in, most people would say it was fine to run it.

i still prefer to rememer him stealing the play from the georgia co's whiteboard LOL

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EjRrYyfXHgM

So, you're putting yourself at Welsh's basketball IQ level?

[BigoBoys]

poor coaching

[Hogsfan1981]

poor coaching

When reaching goes to far.

[Iwastherein1969]

wow...a 22 year old man is not responsible for knowing that you cannot run the baseline on an inbounds pass unless its after a made basket....i've absolutely HEARD IT ALL NOW

[BigoBoys]

When reaching goes to far.

HA HA!  Who is supposed to remind a Senior at the end of the game? 

[WilsonHog]

HA HA!  Who is supposed to remind a Senior at the end of the game? 

A senior ought not have to be reminded.

Freshman, okay, just because maybe the pressure gets to him and he goes brain-dead.

A senior who has logged as many minutes in his career as Welsh? No.

[BigoBoys]

A senior ought not have to be reminded.

Freshman, okay, just because maybe the pressure gets to him and he goes brain-dead.

A senior who has logged as many minutes in his career as Welsh? No.

That's my point.  Pel has had three years to remind him.

[ErieHog]

AYSM?

It's like a coach having to remind a player to dribble the ball, to take it more than 2 steps.   It shouldn't be necessary at all.

[WilsonHog]

That's my point.  Pel has had three years to remind him.

And you assume he hasn't why?

[BigoBoys]

And you assume he hasn't why?

Does anybody know that he has? 

[WilsonHog]

Does anybody know that he has? 

You made the affirmative statement.

I assume you had proof and weren't just acting like an ass.

I was wrong. My bad.

[Dwight_K_Shrute]

It was a stupid mistake in the heat of battle.  Pel yanked his a$$ right after.  Players make tons of stupid mistakes during games, this just happened at the wrong place at the wrong time.  We won the game in spite of it which is all that matters.

[BigoBoys]

You made the affirmative statement.

I assume you had proof and weren't just acting like an ass.

I was wrong. My bad.

These guys have played a gozillian games since high school, shouldn't have to tell them.  But, if you're in charge take charge. 

[aredwolfrazorback]

He didn't know there were ties. Not OT

i guess.  but i didnt think it was like the donovan mcnabb "i didnt know there was OT in the NFL"

i mean, 999 times of 1000 you inbound it straight up.

[hillhog]

I do blame him --- he's the player and supposed to know the rules.

Amen, this guy is a SENIOR, albeit a very dumb one. This is something most players learn while playing junior high ball.

[SPAL]

He should have known...it could have cost us the game. It nearly did. It is on him 110%.

poor coaching

You, sir, win dumba$$ post of the day....congrats.

[Hogsfan1981]

  These guys have played a gozillian games since high school, shouldn't have to tell them.  But, if you're in charge take charge. 

You contradict yourself. You said they shouldn't have to be told but still Pel should have told him from across the court?

You got caught reaching and should have just quit. You have already lost credibility now you should just pretend to log off your computer.

To think Pel could control this is beyond stupid. Welsh made a dumb mistake at the wrong time. You out of all people should understand that.

[BigoBoys]

He should have known...it could have cost us the game. It nearly did. It is on him 110%.

You, sir, win dumba$$ post of the day....congrats.

He should have known...it could have cost us the game. It nearly did. It is on him 110%.

You, sir, win dumba$$ post of the day....congrats.

Speaking of!  There is a bunch of people that should have known including you. 

[pigture perfect]

i know you cant run unless it's a made basket, but, if you'd have quizzed the entire arena the second of the throw-in, most people would say it was fine to run it.

Then why the collective groan.

[BigoBoys]

You contradict yourself. You said they shouldn't have to be told but still Pel should have told him from across the court?

You got caught reaching and should have just quit. You have already lost credibility now you should just pretend to log off your computer.

To think Pel could control this is beyond stupid. Welsh made a dumb mistake at the wrong time. You out of all people should understand that.

Let me know when you are old enough to drink

[SPAL]

Speaking of!  There is a bunch of people that should have known including you. 

i did know...but i wasnt the one inbounding the ball. I guess i should have held up a sign and told him, yeah?

You have made dumb post after dumb post in this thread, including asking someone to get back to you when they are old enough to drink....your post history indicates you, yourself, are only about 13 years old...so take my advice.

admit you made a bonehead post, tuck your tail, take your lumps, and rejoin us in other posts and attempt to appear more sane.

[BigoBoys]

i did know...but i wasnt the one inbounding the ball. I guess i should have held up a sign and told him, yeah?

You have made dumb post after dumb post in this thread, including asking someone to get back to you when they are old enough to drink....your post history indicates you, yourself, are only about 13 years old...so take my advice.

admit you made a bonehead post, tuck your tail, take your lumps, and rejoin us in other posts and attempt to appear more sane.

I have had a drink with Notshavin!  Let me know when you have. 

[Ugly Uncle]

I have had a drink with Notshavin!  Let me know when you have. 

LOL.  Now that is funny. 

[mountainhog]

If steph couldnt remember, all he would have to do is ask the ref!  Instead he just took off.  Bonehead play for a senior that could have cost us a game.

It was typical welsh, play good one game and suck it up the next .
He does play tough D, have to give him credit for that.

[QuadHog]

Ive been a critic of Stef all year.He has stepped up the last 2 weeks and helped ALOT.I will let him have that play,in fact,with the way that ref crew kept holding the ball on free throws and inbounds play,who could keep up with what the last play was.

[BigoBoys]

I have had a drink with Notshavin!  Let me know when you have. 

How would knowing this guy help Steph?

The Situation Room!

[Hoggish1]

Right on!  Forget the transgression, reward the effort!

[sshawg]

It could have cost us another over time period if that last prayer had went in, & we might have lost. Everybody mess's up in times of stress, but what bothered me & I haven't went back yet & watched it again yet, but from watching in real time, it appeared Clarke had broken wide open on the side of the court that Welsh was on & instead of throwing him the ball, he took off across the base line to the other side.

[Hogfan4ever13]

Usually the ref will tell you that you have a 'spot' on the inbounds play.

[mr4pt]

I've been watching for years and even I was yelling at the tv to "run the baseline, we've got an open guy on the other side of the court!!!"

i know you cant run unless it's a made basket, but, if you'd have quizzed the entire arena the second of the throw-in, most people would say it was fine to run it.

i still prefer to rememer him stealing the play from the georgia co's whiteboard LOL

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EjRrYyfXHgM

Like others have said, it was his screw up 110%.  You and the entire arena knew better, he is a sr scholarship athlete who has been playing the game since he could walk....yeah, don't blame him.  Welsh wants sooo bad to be an all-american but his noggin gets in the way.  He has got to be the dumbest player I can ever remember playing for the HOGS.  He has no sense of how the game is going, jacking up dumb threes (yeah he made a few) and turning the ball over at crucial times.  He has no feel for the game.  He does hustle and wants to win as bad as anyone else out there but I believe he would step in front of a truck to be a hero.

[lavacaraider]

Definitely a braindead moment, & he did make a couple of mistakes in the game.  However, in my opinion, he played a very good game, especially defensively.  Sometimes, we all do things without thinking.

[BigoBoys]

So who should we blame? 

[QuadHog]

So who should we blame? 

Why do you feel the need to blame anyone?

[Hogfan4ever13]

Why do you feel the need to blame anyone?

So he can end up blaming it on Pel and scream for him to be fired.

[BigoBoys]

Why do you feel the need to blame anyone?

Answer the question

[QuadHog]

 :razorback:

[BigoBoys]

Okay,I will start with your parents for not using some sort of birth control,oh sorry,you were refering to who to blame Welsh's brain fart on,not why you are a miserable person that feels the need to belittle people who could kick your ass on the bb court.I guess I still dont really have a good answer for who you can blame it on.

Wow, pretty tough talk for someone who hasn't yet to have a drink with Notshavin. 

[HogDom]

So who should we blame?

Start a fire Pel thread.

[Jeffcphog]

I get mad with Welch alot, then remember if it were not for him we probably would not have Powell.  So we need to cut him some slack.

[QuadHog]

Wow, pretty tough talk for someone who hasn't yet to have a drink with Notshavin. 

Not tough talk,just tired of the need for something negative after ANOTHER BIG WIN.BTW,Notshavin has yet to have a drink with me,not the other way around.

[BigoBoys]

Not tough talk,just tired of the need for something negative after ANOTHER BIG WIN.BTW,Notshavin has yet to have a drink with me,not the other way around.

Talking about my family is pretty tough talk, and when you know who Notshavin is let me know.