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WilsonHog

I like Norvell; he's my second choice behind Malzahn.

However, if he gets the job it'll almost be a feeling of, "Awww....would you look at that. He got the job! Isn't that cute? That's so good for him. Somebody give him a hug right quick!"

The last time I felt this way about a candidate was in December of 1997.

Ex-Trumpet

Quote from: Kneph13 on November 21, 2017, 08:25:04 pm
Some new info:  It won't be Gus, and if it is, I'm finished with the Hogs.

You're finished with the Hogs already.  You root for a coach, not the Hogs.
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MuskogeeHogFan

Quote from: The Kig on November 23, 2017, 08:03:56 am
Finally... A voice of reason joins me in defense against the mass of lunacy.

I don't think it is lunacy, it is just that everyone has their own opinion. We aren't going to be 100% in agreement.
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wildhogman

Quote from: King Kong on November 22, 2017, 06:58:21 am
Well, in part that is because we don’t play ourselves. Auburn getting Arkansas makes there schedule easier it’s currently and expected win and 4/5 that’s been correct.  In addition they haven’t played the Florida in the East.

But make no mistake Auburn has played Washington State, at Kansas State(ranked 20) Louisville neutral site, and Clemson a year they won the NC and this year were they are currently in the playoff and UGA every freaking year.

That is much more difficult than Rutgers, TT and TCU.
and still manage to lose to an sec team that was beatn by the mighty men of troy and on their home field. Gus caught lightning in the bottle in 2013. and hasn't been close since, until now. I want to know we compete every year. Heack even the Nutt had us competing for SECC every 3 to 5 years.

pigmania

Quote from: Piggie on November 17, 2017, 05:04:29 pm
He told ASU he would be there up till the last second, and then packed his bags.
What coach doesn't do that. HDN
Quote from: porkrindjimmy on November 17, 2017, 04:59:19 pm
I happen to work for the father of Auburn's director of recruiting....

Talked to that said person today. Said that Gus isn't coming here...in no certain terms.

My Arkansas people tell me different.  So...Gus is misleading one side....

Sours me on Gus. Just move on to Norvell....not Skip Holtz.

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pigmania

Quote from: Kneph13 on November 21, 2017, 08:25:04 pm
Some new info:  It won't be Gus, and if it is, I'm finished with the Hogs.
Bye Felica! Hope you enjoy rooting for your new team!

Pig in the Pokey

Quote from: King Kong on November 17, 2017, 06:48:56 pm
Why go for a Skip with a Kiffin out there?
or with Mike Leach itching for the job. that'd be re tard ed
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Piggie

Quote from: wildhogman on November 23, 2017, 10:23:36 am
and still manage to lose to an sec team that was beatn by the mighty men of troy and on their home field. Gus caught lightning in the bottle in 2013. and hasn't been close since, until now. I want to know we compete every year. Heack even the Nutt had us competing for SECC every 3 to 5 years.

If Nutt had coached in the SEC West as it is today, he would have been smoked as bad as Bielema. In his day, the East dominated, not the West. The West was beginning its rise to power as he left.
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Piggie

Quote from: Kneph13 on November 21, 2017, 08:25:04 pm
Some new info:  It won't be Gus, and if it is, I'm finished with the Hogs.

Wow, the first Razorback Snowflake. Get some cocoa and a puppy. Then go in your safe space and pout. So sad....
It's a great day to be a Bryant Hornet!

ThisTeetsTaken

Quote from: Arkansas Traveler on November 23, 2017, 08:59:04 am
I like Norvell; he's my second choice behind Malzahn.

However, if he gets the job it'll almost be a feeling of, "Awww....would you look at that. He got the job! Isn't that cute? That's so good for him. Somebody give him a hug right quick!"

The last time I felt this way about a candidate was in December of 1997.
Yea, I'm not convinced Norvell can do it in this level.  There's just no history to support it.
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pigmania

Quote from: ThisTeetsTaken on November 23, 2017, 11:28:40 am
Yea, I'm not convinced Norvell can do it in this level.  There's just no history to support it.
I agree. I like Norvell, but there is no history there. There's just lust by a bunch of Gus haters. who won't come out and say he doesn't have enough experience, like they did when Gus was in his 2nd year as HC.

GuvHog

Quote from: ThisTeetsTaken on November 23, 2017, 11:28:40 am
Yea, I’m not convinced Norvell can do it in this level.  There’s just no history to support it.

Gus doesn't have much history as a head coach either. Up until now, he's had only one good year at a school that recruits a boatload of 5* players every year. Not good.
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ricepig

Quote from: pigmania on November 23, 2017, 11:45:47 am
I agree. I like Norvell, but there is no history there. There's just lust by a bunch of Gus haters. who won't come out and say he doesn't have enough experience, like they did when Gus was in his 2nd year as HC.

Gus was in Auburn in 2013, and we didn't have an opening in 2013.

 

a0ashle

I just don't understand why all the chatter is all offense guys and no defensive guys. Any two-bit OC can put together a prairie dog spread offense, but a good defense is more elusive.

King Kong

Quote from: a0ashle on November 23, 2017, 12:24:07 pm
I just don't understand why all the chatter is all offense guys and no defensive guys. Any two-bit OC can put together a prairie dog spread offense, but a good defense is more elusive.

Because sometimes DC as HC still have bad defenses. Strong, Pelini and Bielema seem to come to mind

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Would somebody tell me who did Gus recruit from Texas for Ark or Tulsa. Who did he recruit from Texas to Auburn. Who on his staff has connections to Texas that he would bring with him. Anybody that comes in here and doesn't get players from Texas will be gone in 3 years. Think of all the student population that's from Texas. There is a good chance some of the 4 and 5 star players have girlfriends that come from Texas and goes to Ark. Gus is an X and O coach. I want a jimmie and joes coach.

East Clintwood

November 23, 2017, 03:20:19 pm #367 Last Edit: November 23, 2017, 07:46:33 pm by East Clintwood
Quote from: cram224 on November 23, 2017, 03:05:57 pm
Would somebody tell me who did Gus recruit from Texas for Ark or Tulsa. Who did he recruit from Texas to Auburn. Who on his staff has connections to Texas that he would bring with him. Anybody that comes in here and doesn't get players from Texas will be gone in 3 years. Think of all the student population that's from Texas. There is a good chance some of the 4 and 5 star players have girlfriends that come from Texas and goes to Ark. Gus is an X and O coach. I want a jimmie and joes coach.


Auburn currently has 4 players from Texas on their roster. 

Obviously, they don't currently have any real connections there.
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Random Parsley

Quote from: ricepig on November 23, 2017, 11:52:00 am
Gus was in Auburn in 2013, and we didn't have an opening in 2013.
Bret and Gus were both announced on December 4, 2012 for their respective schools, so Gus theoretically could have been a candidate when we were choosing Bielema.

I'll quit there because I have no idea who we'll get, or who we should get. I'll just be a fan of whoever and hope it works better than we've seen recently.

Gonzo

Quote from: Ex-Trumpet on November 23, 2017, 10:02:07 am
You're finished with the Hogs already.  You root for a coach, not the Hogs.

That's hardly a small, or monolithic, group around here.


Go Hogs!

Großer Kriegschwein

Quote from: GuvHog on November 23, 2017, 11:51:48 am
Gus doesn't have much history as a head coach either. Up until now, he's had only one good year at a school that recruits a boatload of 5* players every year. Not good.

Name these "boatloads" of 5* players.

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East Clintwood

Quote from: Gonzo on November 23, 2017, 03:45:06 pm
That's hardly a small, or monolithic, group around here.


Go Hogs!


I don't think that most of us are fans or haters of a particular coach.

I'm a Razorback fan and I want what's best for the teams.  When we have a coach that's not good for the program, I want to replace him with someone who is. 

We've just endured 6 years of crap coaching.  I still wanted victories but I rarely expected to get them.  I'm a realist and can pretty fairly evaluate our team.  No, I can't accurately predict scores or some victories/losses but I can usually get real close to our record for the year.  This year I had us very optimistically at 6-6 but that was with everything going our way.  It didn't.

I really don't like being a realist when it comes to the Hogs --- I want to be an optimistic fan again.  That where who the coach is comes in.  With Bert, I went in to each game with zero expectations, sometimes I just recorded the game and watched if we won or sometimes I watched but more for the curiosity of what we'd screw up next.  I fully expect Gus to fall right into this category.  Certainly better coaching and better execution but I don't think the wins will increase by much.

I want a coach that brings excitement back to the Hogs.  I'm not all that particular about who that is - Norvell, Morris, Brown, Kiffin but please not Gus.

No more retreads.
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Kneph13

Quote from: a0ashle on November 23, 2017, 12:24:07 pm
I just don't understand why all the chatter is all offense guys and no defensive guys. Any two-bit OC can put together a prairie dog spread offense, but a good defense is more elusive.

Defense wins championships. Offense is for power and show.  If the Razorbacks hope to win the SEC West and SECCG, defense is required.  I could care less if our offense was exciting or boring as long as our defense shuts our opponents down.  Gus is not the answer for Arkansas. He can retire from Auburn and then return home.  We need a new blood coach and a defense that is an eight foot thick reinforced concrete wall.
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WilsonHog

Quote from: East Clintwood on November 23, 2017, 04:32:50 pm

I don't think that most of us are fans or haters of a particular coach.

I'm a Razorback fan and I want what's best for the teams.  When we have a coach that's not good for the program, I want to replace him with someone who is. 

We've just endured 6 years of crap coaching.  I still wanted victories but I rarely expected to get them.  I'm a realist and can pretty fairly evaluate our team.  No, I can't accurately predict scores or some victories/losses but I can usually get real close to our record for the year.  This year I had us very optimistically at 6-6 but that was with everything going our way.  It didn't.

I really don't like being a realist when it comes to the Hogs --- I want to be an optimistic fan again.  That where who the coach is comes in.  With Bert, I went in to each game with zero expectations, sometimes I just recorded the game and watched if we won or sometimes I watched but more for the curiosity of what we'd screw up next.  I fully expect Gus to fall right into this category.  Certainly better coaching and better execution but I don't think the wins will increase by much.

I want a coach that brings excitement back to the Hogs.  I'm not all that particular about who that is - Norvell, Morris, Brown, Kiffin but please not Gus.

No more retreads.

Can you operationalize the word "retread" for us? Would Saban be a retread? Dabo? Urban? Jimbo? What exactly qualifies a coach for "retread" status?

 

Kneph13

Quote from: Piggie on November 23, 2017, 11:05:35 am
Wow, the first Razorback Snowflake. Get some cocoa and a puppy. Then go in your safe space and pout. So sad....

I'm not a snowflake, I'm realistic.  Malzahn would be an idiotic hire by a bunch of rich individuals desperate to be relevant.  He would deliver for a year or three and slowly begin to decline.  Malzahn is reaching his peak now and the downhill slide is rapidly approaching.

I blow the cocoa back in your face and kick the damn puppy.  I'm always in my safe place, because the general public is a bunch moronic retards as evidenced often on this board.  I won't pout either.  I will be totally content with myself. 

When I said if they hire Gus that I would be done with the Hogs,  I meant the University administrators who, with their heads so far up their behinds, couldn't see the huge opportunity looming before them as far as the football team is concerned.  Gus needs to retire as Auburn's coach and then come home to Arkansas.  The changing of the guard is before us.

Thank you for your insightful reply, and to the kids who choose to play for the U of A as a Razorback?  Go Hogs  Root Hog  Hold that Line
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grayhawg

Quote from: Kneph13 on November 23, 2017, 05:05:36 pm
I'm not a snowflake, I'm realistic.  Malzahn would be an idiotic hire by a bunch of rich individuals desperate to be relevant.  He would deliver for a year or three and slowly begin to decline.  Malzahn is reaching his peak now and the downhill slide is rapidly approaching.

I blow the cocoa back in your face and kick the damn puppy.  I'm always in my safe place, because the general public is a bunch moronic retards as evidenced often on this board.  I won't pout either.  I will be totally content with myself. 

When I said if they hire Gus that I would be done with the Hogs,  I meant the University administrators who, with their heads so far up their behinds, couldn't see the huge opportunity looming before them as far as the football team is concerned.  Gus needs to retire as Auburn's coach and then come home to Arkansas.  The changing of the guard is before us.

Thank you for your insightful reply, and to the kids who choose to play for the U of A as a Razorback?  Go Hogs  Root Hog  Hold that Line
Malzahn is 56 and Saban is 66, seems like Saban just really started winning big at about Malzahn's age that does not mean Malzahn will, probably not. But that doesn't mean he is going downhill.

Kneph13

Quote from: grayhawg on November 23, 2017, 05:35:52 pm
Malzahn is 56 and Saban is 66, seems like Saban just really started winning big at about Malzahn's age that does not mean Malzahn will, probably not. But that doesn't mean he is going downhill.

I didn't say he was going downhill, I said he was at his peak and that the downhill slide was approaching.
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grayhawg

Quote from: Kneph13 on November 23, 2017, 05:53:24 pm
I didn't say he was going downhill, I said he was at his peak and that the downhill slide was approaching.
You also said he would deliver for a year or three and slowly decline.

Kneph13

Quote from: grayhawg on November 23, 2017, 05:55:09 pm
You also said he would deliver for a year or three and slowly decline.

Same thing different  words.  My apologies, that was me being redundant.  Thanks for pointing that out to me. 
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Hogindasticks

Quote from: ThisTeetsTaken on November 23, 2017, 11:28:40 am
Yea, I'm not convinced Norvell can do it in this level.  There's just no history to support it.

I think Kiffin would be a better pick than Norvell....we know what we get.

Hogindasticks

Quote from: cram224 on November 23, 2017, 03:05:57 pm
Would somebody tell me who did Gus recruit from Texas for Ark or Tulsa. Who did he recruit from Texas to Auburn. Who on his staff has connections to Texas that he would bring with him. Anybody that comes in here and doesn't get players from Texas will be gone in 3 years. Think of all the student population that's from Texas. There is a good chance some of the 4 and 5 star players have girlfriends that come from Texas and goes to Ark. Gus is an X and O coach. I want a jimmie and joes coach.

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61   Ryan MeneelyHear how to pronounce Ryan Meneely   OL   6-2   322   SO   McDonough, Ga. (Eagle's Landing Christian Acad.)
62   Jaunta'vius JohnsonHear how to pronounce Jaunta   DL   6-2   324   SO   Lincoln, Ala. (Lincoln)
63   Peyton NanceHear how to pronounce Peyton Nance   OL   5-11   318   FR   Attalla, Ala. (Etowah)
64   Mike HortonHear how to pronounce Mike Horton   OL   6-4   318   SO   Atlanta, Ga. (Lakeside)
66   Bailey SharpHear how to pronounce Bailey Sharp   OL   6-5   300   SO   Marietta, Ga. (Sprayberry)
67   Tyler CarrHear how to pronounce Tyler Carr   OL   6-5   316   SO   Southside, Ala. (Southside)
68   Austin TroxellHear how to pronounce Austin Troxell   OL   6-6   292   FR   Gurley, Ala. (Madison Academy)
69   Ike PowellHear how to pronounce Ike Powell   LS   6-3   267   SR   Tifton, Ga. (Tift County)
70   Calvin AshleyHear how to pronounce Calvin Ashley   OL   6-6   350   FR   Orlando, Fla. (St. John's College)
71   Braden SmithHear how to pronounce Braden Smith   OL   6-6   303   SR   Olathe, Kan. (Olathe South)
72   Prince Micheal Sammons   OL   6-7   292   RS FR   Blanchester, Ohio (Cincinnati Hills Christian Academy)
73   Austin GolsonHear how to pronounce Austin Golson   OL   6-5   312   SR   Prattville, Ala. (Ole Miss)
74   Wilson BellHear how to pronounce Wilson Bell   OL   6-5   355   SR   Mobile, Ala. (Florida State)
75   Trent KelleyHear how to pronounce Trent Kelley   OL   6-5   280   FR   Phenix City, Ala. (Central)
76   Prince Tega WanoghoHear how to pronounce Prince Tega Wanogho   OL   6-7   301   SO   Montgomery, Ala. (Edgewood Academy)
77   Marquel HarrellHear how to pronounce Marquel Harrell   OL   6-3   308   SO   Fairburn, Ga. (Creekside)
78   Darius JamesHear how to pronounce Darius James   OL   6-4   324   SR   Killeen, Texas (Texas)
79   Andrew WilliamsHear how to pronounce Andrew Williams   DL   6-4   286   JR   McDonough, Ga. (Eagle's Landing Christian Acad.)
80   Sal CannellaHear how to pronounce Sal Cannella   TE   6-5   228   SO   Schaumburg, Ill. (Scottsdale CC)
81   Darius SlaytonHear how to pronounce Darius Slayton   WR   6-2   190   SO   Norcross, Ga. (Greater Atlanta Christian)
82   Pete BerrymanHear how to pronounce Pete Berryman   TE   6-3   221   SR   Birmingham, Ala. (Mountain Brook)
85   Jalen HarrisHear how to pronounce Jalen Harris   TE   6-4   252   JR   Montgomery, Ala. (St. James)
86   Tucker BrownHear how to pronounce Tucker Brown   TE   6-3   288   JR   Trussville, Ala. (Hewitt-Trussville)
87   Pace Ozmint   WR   6-1   181   RS FR   Glencoe, Ala. (Glencoe)
89   Griffin KingHear how to pronounce Griffin King   WR   5-10   180   SO   Atlanta, Ga. (Marist School)
91   Nick CoeHear how to pronounce Nick Coe   DL   6-5   270   RS FR   Asheboro, N.C. (Asheboro)
92   Alec JacksonHear how to pronounce Alec Jackson   DL   6-5   280   FR   Montgomery, Ala. (Jefferson Davis)
93   Tyler Carter   DL   6-1   270   SR   Decatur, Ala. (Decatur)
94   Tyrone TruesdellHear how to pronounce Tyrone Truesdell   DL   6-2   338   FR   Augusta, Ga. (Lucy Laney)
95   Dontavius RussellHear how to pronounce Dontavius Russell   DL   6-3   310   JR   Carrollton, Ga. (Carrollton)
97   Gary WalkerHear how to pronounce Gary Walker   DL   5-11   270   SO   Toccoa, Ga. (Stephens County)
99   Spencer Nigh   FB   6-0   270   SO   Magnolia, Texas (Magnolia)

Hogindasticks

90% from Florida, Georgia and Alabama.....about 3% from Texas...

a0ashle

Quote from: King Kong on November 23, 2017, 01:39:25 pm
Because sometimes DC as HC still have bad defenses. Strong, Pelini and Bielema seem to come to mind

That's not really an answer, that can be said of offensive HC and bad offenses.

East Clintwood

Quote from: Arkansas Traveler on November 23, 2017, 05:02:53 pm
Can you operationalize the word "retread" for us? Would Saban be a retread? Dabo? Urban? Jimbo? What exactly qualifies a coach for "retread" status?

". a repeating,  or reworking of an old or familiar idea, story, etc., especially when unimaginative or hackneyed; rehash" 

Trying to bring back any of Nutt, BP, of Gus and hope that they can somehow repeat or revise or carry on what they've done here or elsewhere in the past.

None of your examples would be a retread.  I'm specifically referring to coaches that have been here in the past.  Anyone that's going to immediately start with a bunch of negative history with the fans.
Any dog can be a seeing eye dog if you don't care where you're going.

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bphi11ips

Quote from: grayhawg on November 23, 2017, 05:35:52 pm
Malzahn is 56 and Saban is 66, seems like Saban just really started winning big at about Malzahn's age that does not mean Malzahn will, probably not. But that doesn't mean he is going downhill.

Malzahn was born October 28, 1965. He just turned 52.

We should have hired Malzahn in 2007. The excuse was he had no experience. We should have hired Malzahn in 2012. The excuse was he only had one year head coaching experience (forget the NC as OC).  Now the excuse is he is too old.

ROTFLMAO
Life is too short for grudges and feuds.

grayhawg

Quote from: bphi11ips on November 23, 2017, 08:09:52 pm
Malzahn was born October 28, 1965. He just turned 52.

We should have hired Malzahn in 2007. The excuse was he had no experience. We should have hired Malzahn in 2012. The excuse was he only had one year head coaching experience (forget the NC as OC).  Now the excuse is he is too old.

ROTFLMAO
My bad, I seen when he was born and still got it wrong and no he's not too old but may win his way out of the job.

Hawg Life

Quote from: Arkansas Traveler on November 23, 2017, 05:02:53 pm
Can you operationalize the word "retread" for us? Would Saban be a retread? Dabo? Urban? Jimbo? What exactly qualifies a coach for "retread" status?

Anyone who's making nearly $5M and bailing because expectations are too high.

Ben Steiger

Quote from: MuskogeeHogFan on November 23, 2017, 07:59:57 am
The return of Malzahn brings with it several problems and as far as Norvell goes, I'm not certain that he is the answer either.

Muskogee, I respect and follow your answers and insight carefully on this board; would you care to elaborate?
Si vis pacem, para bellum.

Dropkick

Quote from: bphi11ips on November 23, 2017, 08:09:52 pm
Malzahn was born October 28, 1965. He just turned 52.

We should have hired Malzahn in 2007. The excuse was he had no experience. We should have hired Malzahn in 2012. The excuse was he only had one year head coaching experience (forget the NC as OC).  Now the excuse is he is too old.

ROTFLMAO
So we should have hired Gus after he had one year of HC experience but we shouldn't hire Norvell cause he only has 2?
Hogville logic.

bphi11ips

Quote from: grayhawg on November 23, 2017, 08:14:56 pm
My bad, I seen when he was born and still got it wrong and no he's not too old but may win his way out of the job.

I wasn't directing that at you as much as those saying Malzahn is too old. The multitude of excuses not to hire Malzahn over the years is comical. Razorbacks fans can't get out of their own way. That's why the guys who know what they're doing finally said enough.
Life is too short for grudges and feuds.

bphi11ips

Quote from: Dropkick on November 23, 2017, 08:34:55 pm
So we should have hired Gus after he had one year of HC experience but we shouldn't hire Norvell cause he only has 2?
Hogville logic.

Did I say anything about Norvell?

Life is too short for grudges and feuds.

hogfan1983

Just throwing this out there, our last 2 hires came out of nowhere. I never heard one thing about either coach coming to Arkansas less than a few hours before it was announced. I did hear the same "realtor" rumor about a few other coaches but the actual choice was never in the mix. Also, it does not make sense that Gus would be hired here when he can't seal the deal at Auburn. What about someone with professional and college experience that may be looking to make a splash back in college? (NOT GRUDEN) Just wondering what the thoughts are there?

HoopS

Quote from: bphi11ips on November 23, 2017, 08:09:52 pm
Malzahn was born October 28, 1965. He just turned 52.

We should have hired Malzahn in 2007. The excuse was he had no experience. We should have hired Malzahn in 2012. The excuse was he only had one year head coaching experience (forget the NC as OC).  Now the excuse is he is too old.

ROTFLMAO
yep. Some just need to be honest and say they just don't want him instead of dressing it up as something else.

It's kinda like the ones who said Cam won it by himself. Ok. So you're saying his offense is good enough to win it all if we can just get that one great QB? No. Cam was just a freak. Oh, ok. And then he got back there with a former CB Marshall at QB. Crickets

It also used to be that his offense would KILL their own defense. And now, their D is great two years running but it is because suddenly Steele is a great DC. Nevermind this very board would have melted down a couple years ago had we hired Steele when Gus did.

It's very entertaining trying to keep up with the hypocrisy.

bphi11ips

Quote from: Ben Steiger on November 23, 2017, 08:34:15 pm
Muskogee, I respect and follow your answers and insight carefully on this board; would you care to elaborate?

NWA drama queens. Nobody outside of Hogville posters care. No offense, Muskogee, but enough is enough. I said here years ago we would regret not hiring Malzahn and most Razorbacks fans do. The GOBN definitely does. We didn't because of the soap opera.

It's not the folks outside of NWA who don't want Malzahn. It's a handfull of shrill NWA residents who refuse to shut up.
Life is too short for grudges and feuds.

The Hawg Marshal

There may be plenty of reasons to not want Gus, but saying he is too old is not one of them. 52 is not old for a veteran coach.

Dropkick

Quote from: bphi11ips on November 23, 2017, 08:39:20 pm
Did I say anything about Norvell?


Not necessarily you but is the common knock on Norvell on this board. If a coach has got "IT" the lack of experience won't hold him back.

MuskogeeHogFan

Quote from: Ben Steiger on November 23, 2017, 08:34:15 pm
Muskogee, I respect and follow your answers and insight carefully on this board; would you care to elaborate?

Gus (as a HC) has had top ten classes at Auburn and he hasn't done a lot with those. If you can't get it done with top 10 classes, how are you going to get it done with lower ranked classes in the same division? We aren't going to suddenly jump up into the top ten in recruiting if he comes here. He may win 1 or 2 more than we did in 2014, 2015 and 2016, but that doesn't put us in contention for the West.

Another factor is that for at least part of the fan base, he has a negative history here that goes back to his departure from the program when Nutt was in charge and the kids he left behind in doing so. I won't get into that because this shouldn't turn into a discussion of something that happened 10 years ago, but there are still negative feelings about that and it will come back to the fore front of discussions the first time he stubs his toe here as a HC.

Norvell is probably a really good coach, but with just under two years at the helm of a G-5 program and given that he is still benefiting from the groundwork laid by Fuentes, I think he needs to prove that he can sustain a program before he merits consideration for a P-5 job and especially one in the SEC. Now he might work out just fine, but the possibility certainly exists that an SEC HC'ing job might be a tad too much, too soon.

I guess any HC that you hire is at least a bit of gamble, but why take bigger gambles than you have to take just because you are unhappy with what Bielema has produced?

Gus hasn't "done more with less" at Auburn. Norvell has certainly done more with less at Memphis, but the majority of his schedule is still G-5 schools, not the SEC grind.

I'd just rather see us go after and throw the bank at a guy who has proven over time that he has won more, with less talent at his disposal. I think that is a key factor for Arkansas to be successful. There are a lot of things that I would like to see in the new HC from an offensive and defensive standpoint, but the first thing is consistently overachieving at the P-5 level with what he has to work with in terms of talent. JMO
Go Hogs Go!

Scott7703

Quote from: Kneph13 on November 21, 2017, 08:25:04 pm
Some new info:  It won't be Gus, and if it is, I'm finished with the Hogs.



So no real info. Still Gus' job to turn down.

Dropkick

Quote from: MuskogeeHogFan on November 23, 2017, 08:52:19 pm
Gus (as a HC) has had top ten classes at Auburn and he hasn't done a lot with those. If you can't get it done with top 10 classes, how are you going to get it done with lower ranked classes in the same division? We aren't going to suddenly jump up into the top ten in recruiting if he comes here. He may win 1 or 2 more than we did in 2014, 2015 and 2016, but that doesn't put us in contention for the West.

Another factor is that for at least part of the fan base, he has a negative history here that goes back to his departure from the program when Nutt was in charge and the kids he left behind in doing so. I won't get into that because this shouldn't turn into a discussion of something that happened 10 years ago, but there are still negative feelings about that and it will come back to the fore front of discussions the first time he stubs his toe here as a HC.

Norvell is probably a really good coach, but with just under two years at the helm of a G-5 program and given that he is still benefiting from the groundwork laid by Fuentes, I think he needs to prove that he can sustain a program before he merits consideration for a P-5 job and especially one in the SEC. Now he might work out just fine, but the possibility certainly exists that an SEC HC'ing job might be a tad too much, too soon.

I guess any HC that you hire is at least a bit of gamble, but why take bigger gambles than you have to take just because you are unhappy with what Bielema has produced?

Gus hasn't "done more with less" at Auburn. Norvell has certainly done more with less at Memphis, but the majority of his schedule is still G-5 schools, not the SEC grind.

I'd just rather see us go after and throw the bank at a guy who has proven over time that he has won more, with less talent at his disposal. I think that is a key factor for Arkansas to be successful. There are a lot of things that I would like to see in the new HC from an offensive and defensive standpoint, but the first thing is consistently overachieving at the P-5 level with what he has to work with in terms of talent. JMO
Leach? If so I could get on board with that.

Hawg Life

Quote from: Dropkick on November 23, 2017, 08:59:26 pm
Leach? If so I could get on board with that.

Patterson, Stoops, Or someone with Texas ties to recruiting.. I could see that, but I think it's a 2 man race right now.. someone may have to write a letter and the type of coach with that type of name isn't going to do that.