Hoyer named Texans starting QB over Mallett

[checkraiser88]

Well this blows

[bigred223]

What a joke

[ldfergu]

Making a million bucks a year as a career back up is probably the best job in the world.

[Hakuna Matata]

The Texans have lost all of their big name play makers anyways. They have no Andre Johnson or Arian Foster to help take the pressure off the QB. It might better to not start at the moment with so much uncertainty on the offense.

[Hogarusa]

It's always better to be the starter.  But backup QB is a pretty sweet gig.  Reports say that Hoyer has been the better and most consistent QB since he showed up.  Mallett will almost certainly get some starts later this season. 

[TexArkHogFan]

What a joke

Why is it a joke?  Apparently the head coach felt Hoyer gave them the best chance to win.  At least that's what we hear regarding the Arkansas quarterback.  The NFL is a business and they are in it to win it. He got his chance and  he got beat out, plain and simple.  I'm not down on Mallett, I still think he'll get his chance but he's got to step up and earn it. 

[pigheaded]

Making a million bucks a year as a career back up is probably the best job in the world.

Yep

[TexArkHogFan]

Making a million bucks a year as a career back up is probably the best job in the world.

Scott Hastings made a pretty good living at it. 

[threeNout]

hope coach has a quick trigger finger.

[1highhog]

Making a million bucks a year as a career back up is probably the best job in the world.

It would be my dream job.

[SamBuckhart]

Its a long season. With many injuries. Just hope he makes the most of his opportunities. When is the last time the HOGS had a starting QB in the NFL ? Clint Stoerner maybe? Regular season, I mean.

[KlubhouseKonnected]

I'm not at practice, not sure how much better he could have done with his preseason game opportunities. To me, Mallet didn't separate to himself one way or the other from a more experienced guy and the result is the Head Coach going with the "safer" known commodity in Hoyer.

[HOGINTENNESSEE]

Its a long season. With many injuries. Just hope he makes the most of his opportunities. When is the last time the HOGS had a starting QB in the NFL ? Clint Stoerner maybe? Regular season, I mean.

Mallett started 2 games last year

[Mark_Freeman]

Does it make anyone else feel like Mallett just isn't good enough to start in the league? I mean, Brian Hoyer... I hate it for RM, because I was looking forward to him becoming a starter. There aren't many teams he could start for if he can't beat out that guy.

[Pork Twain]

You guys crack me up.

This is likely due to EPSN hating BP and RM starting for BP.

/sarcasm

[ldfergu]

Does it make anyone else feel like Mallett just isn't good enough to start in the league? I mean, Brian Hoyer... I hate it for RM, because I was looking forward to him becoming a starter. There aren't many teams he could start for if he can't beat out that guy.

Based on absolutely no real information I would venture to guess RM's issues in the NFL are between the ears.  He has loads of talent but something just isn't clicking

[KlubhouseKonnected]

He just needs to stay ready, so that when he gets his chance to go in while the rounds are live, he can take full advantage.

Maybe he is another in a long line of Petrino coached QB's that wind up as career back ups on that level, but he was the best Arkansas QB of the modern era so I am not ready to give up on him yet.

[presidenthog]

Does it make anyone else feel like Mallett just isn't good enough to start in the league? I mean, Brian Hoyer... I hate it for RM, because I was looking forward to him becoming a starter. There aren't many teams he could start for if he can't beat out that guy.

He has all the tools. he just isn't consistently accurate is what I hear. the same knock he had here.

[HOGINTENNESSEE]

He has all the tools. he just isn't consistently accurate is what I hear. the same knock he had here.

That's what you hear. Then he goes out in games and goes 10/11

[HOGINTENNESSEE]

Does it make anyone else feel like Mallett just isn't good enough to start in the league? I mean, Brian Hoyer... I hate it for RM, because I was looking forward to him becoming a starter. There aren't many teams he could start for if he can't beat out that guy.

A lot of guys worse in NFL have got more opportunities than Mallett

[Pork Twain]

Maybe he is just not ready to lead the team at this time.  That is always a possibility and it is also possible that could change in the upcoming months.  Obviously the coaches have seen something that makes them think Hoyer is the better guy right now.

[threeNout]

There aren't many teams he could start for if he can't beat out that guy.

he did beat out Hoyer in NE, to be Brady's backup.

it appears to have been a razor thin decision, the coach is going to have a press conference about it today, wouldn't be shocking to see a switch back to RM early in the season.

[bigred223]

That's what you hear. Then he goes out in games and goes 10/11

Exactly. O'Brien wants a dink and dunk passer. That's Hoyer for you.

[hawg1221]

Well, unfortunately, I think this is the beginning of the end of his NFL career. I really had high hopes that he would finally be a starter.

[KlubhouseKonnected]

Well, unfortunately, I think this is the beginning of the end of his NFL career. I really had high hopes that he would finally be a starter.

I wouldn't say that. Lots of quarterbacks have long careers in the league as clear cut backups.

[HoopS]

In 2 games this preseason, he was 15/18. Hoyer was 9/15.

RM never got a chance to stretch the field. Lot of short stuff. The rap against him was no touch on short stuff. 15/18 seems to indicate he's better in that dept.

I wanted him named starter but O'Brien has other plans. But RM didn't get much of a chance in these 2 games to wow anyone. I suspect the plan is a conservative offense and lean on a pretty loaded defense.

[PorkRinds]

Ryan is also coming off of a fairly serious injury.  He may end up earning the job.

[Hogs run wild]

It's a long season. Mallett just has to make the most of his chances when he gets them. I wouldn't do any more bench presses until the end of the season though.

[hoglady]

Mallett has been in an offense not suited to his talents since he's been in the NFL.
The last preseason game - Hoyer's YPC was something was like 4yds / Mallett's was around 3.7.
Mallett just is not going to beat out Hoyer in that type of offense.
Plus in the preseason games they did not run the offense with pace. They have a new OC so maybe they've slowed it down. Mallett was very good last year running that offense quickly.
I think it's a true dink and dunk offense that takes NO chances.
Never even tried to stretch the field.
Mallett didn't beat out Hoyer at NE until after O'Brien left.
Hoyer was O'Brien's guy the moment Houston signed him.

[hogsanity]

Mallett has been in an offense not suited to his talents since he's been in the NFL.
The last preseason game - Hoyer's YPC was something was like 4yds / Mallett's was around 3.7.
Mallett just is not going to beat out Hoyer in that type of offense.
Plus in the preseason games they did not run the offense with pace. They have a new OC so maybe they've slowed it down. Mallett was very good last year running that offense quickly.
I think it's a true dink and dunk offense that takes NO chances.
Never even tried to stretch the field.
Mallett didn't beat out Hoyer at NE until after O'Brien left.
Hoyer was O'Brien's guy the moment Houston signed him.

They can't stretch the field. Johnson is gone, Foster is out at Rb. Their biggest weapons are the TE and couple of possession type wr's.

[hoglady]

They can't stretch the field. Johnson is gone, Foster is out at Rb. Their biggest weapons are the TE and couple of possession type wr's.

That's their fault - they let Johnson go.
They didn't sign any receivers to stretch the field - it's not like they lost that ability due to player injury.
It apparently isn't their priority.

[Pork Twain]

There are not a lot of qbs that live and die by the long ball since Jeff George retired. 

[Albert Einswine]

Its a long season. With many injuries. Just hope he makes the most of his opportunities. When is the last time the HOGS had a starting QB in the NFL ? Clint Stoerner maybe? Regular season, I mean.

Joe Ferguson as far as I can recall.

[HoopS]

They can't stretch the field. Johnson is gone, Foster is out at Rb. Their biggest weapons are the TE and couple of possession type wr's.

Cecil Shorts has the speed to. Andre had lost a step and wasn't happy. Their weapons are Hopkins, Shorts and Washington. Not sure which TE you're referring to.

[WarPig88]

Why is it a joke?  Apparently the head coach felt Hoyer gave them the best chance to win.  At least that's what we hear regarding the Arkansas quarterback.  The NFL is a business and they are in it to win it. He got his chance and  he got beat out, plain and simple.  I'm not down on Mallett, I still think he'll get his chance but he's got to step up and earn it.

It is a dumb choice. Hoyer and Mallett were even according to the practice reports I have been reading. The difference being that Hoyer has 17 starts and Mallett has 2.

Here is the kicker on that though, a guy with 17 starts should be head and shoulders better than a guy with only 2. He has had the opportunities to show what he can do. Hoyer had a 6 game stretch last season where he didn't throw a td pass.

Stupid decision and one that will bite the Texans in the butt.

[RME]

It is a dumb choice. Hoyer and Mallett were even according to the practice reports I have been reading. The difference being that Hoyer has 17 starts and Mallett has 2.

Here is the kicker on that though, a guy with 17 starts should be head and shoulders better than a guy with only 2. He has had the opportunities to show what he can do. Hoyer had a 6 game stretch last season where he didn't throw a td pass.

Stupid decision and one that will bite the Texans in the butt.

I didn't know NFL head coaches frequented these forums.

[WarPig88]

Mallett has been in an offense not suited to his talents since he's been in the NFL.
The last preseason game - Hoyer's YPC was something was like 4yds / Mallett's was around 3.7.
Mallett just is not going to beat out Hoyer in that type of offense.
Plus in the preseason games they did not run the offense with pace. They have a new OC so maybe they've slowed it down. Mallett was very good last year running that offense quickly.
I think it's a true dink and dunk offense that takes NO chances.
Never even tried to stretch the field.
Mallett didn't beat out Hoyer at NE until after O'Brien left.
Hoyer was O'Brien's guy the moment Houston signed him.

This. Hoyer was given the first team snaps on the first OTA practice even though he had not even been part of the team.

O'Brien brought him in to be the starter. Practice reports I have read said that Hoyer's accuracy has been inconsistent all fall. I guess it's moot now.

[atekido]

Probably best he doesn't start.  That team doesn't have anything on offense.

[WarPig88]

I didn't know NFL head coaches frequented these forums.

You do know that MOST NFL coaches don't succeed right?

That probably means that there is room for criticism somewhere. Is that you Mr. O'Brien?

[GoHogs1091]

They can't stretch the field. Johnson is gone, Foster is out at Rb. Their biggest weapons are the TE and couple of possession type wr's.

I still maintain that they should have traded down out of that #1 pick, and they should have drafted Sammy Watkins instead of Clowney. They should have known that they were eventually going to lose Johnson.

Just poor general managering by the Texans' GM.  Seems to be a common occurrence in that State considering the poor general managering that also occurs with the team located in Arlington.

[Professor Psychosis]

Hard Knocks spoiler alert!

Though really this hasn't been the best season of that show so far.

[hawgsalot]

The crazies thing of all is Mallett getting a whole 2 series with the starters in his preseason start.  Heck the game before Hoyer only got one series.  If your trying to decide a QB battle that's razor thin then I would want more series than that.  Mallett outplayed Hoyer by a long shot last year when they played late in the season.  Hoyer is horrible if Ryan truly can't beat him out it's over for Ryan long term I'm afraid.

[RME]

You do know that MOST NFL coaches don't succeed right?

That probably means that there is room for criticism somewhere. Is that you Mr. O'Brien?

Went 9-7 in his first year as an NFL HC. Not too shabby. Not saying he doesn't have the potential to go 1-15 this year, though. I'm not even a Texans guy but I'm also not going to sit behind a keyboard and pretend that I know more about football or a team that I have no hand in over a guy who's been around football since 1993.

[hogsanity]

Joe Ferguson as far as I can recall.

I think Clint started one game for the cowboys.

[hogsanity]

You do know that MOST NFL coaches don't succeed right?

That probably means that there is room for criticism somewhere. Is that you Mr. O'Brien?

Room for criticism on a message board? That is down right laughable coming from you. O'Brien should be given at least 10 years to get his players and system in place.

[Albert Einswine]

I think Clint started one game for the cowboys.

In the regular season? I'm not a cowgirls fan so I really don't keep up, but I only remember him playing preseason and then being on their practice squad while he was there.

[hogsanity]

In the regular season? I'm not a cowgirls fan so I really don't keep up, but I only remember him playing preseason and then being on their practice squad while he was there.

Started 2 games in 2001, went 1-1.

http://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/S/StoeCl00.htm

[TexArkHogFan]

Wouldn't be the first quarterback who played lights out in college and never did quite make it in the NFL.

[Albert Einswine]

Started 2 games in 2001, went 1-1.

http://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/S/StoeCl00.htm

I never knew.

[PonderinHog]

Does Tarvaris Jackson not count?