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Ncaa Tourney/RPI Discussion/Final RPI/Regionals Announced

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ucahogfan

Quote from: CJ HOG on May 21, 2015, 06:08:23 pm
My bad in regards to Dallas Baptist, thought they had lost twice for some reason. I don't think they should get a National Seed regardless of what transpires with them. I think they're a prime example of what's wrong with the RPI formula being used these days. They are a good ball club, just not top10 good imo.
The RPI formula in college baseball basically rewards teams for going on the road.  Heck, going 1-2 on the road basically means it was a wash that weekend RPI wise while going 2-1 at home does the same thing.

Big 10 commish Jim Delaney got his wish a couple of years ago to change up the RPI formula, but I'll never understand why it was changed when all the good baseball is played in the South.

CJ HOG

There is no such thing as a magic formula to level the playing field so to speak. In fact, as is the case with almost every other aspect of life, as soon as you try you're more likely to screw things up more so. Overall makes things about as clear as MUD.

 

code red

Quote from: CJ HOG on May 21, 2015, 06:08:23 pm
My bad in regards to Dallas Baptist, thought they had lost twice for some reason. I don't think they should get a National Seed regardless of what transpires with them. I think they're a prime example of what's wrong with the RPI formula being used these days. They are a good ball club, just not top10 good imo.
Totally agree
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jesterzzn

Quote from: ucahogfan on May 21, 2015, 06:11:58 pm
The RPI formula in college baseball basically rewards teams for going on the road.  Heck, going 1-2 on the road basically means it was a wash that weekend RPI wise while going 2-1 at home does the same thing.

Big 10 commish Jim Delaney got his wish a couple of years ago to change up the RPI formula, but I'll never understand why it was changed when all the good baseball is played in the South.

You probably know better than most that the midwest/northeast still has a majority of power in baseball circles.  Don't make the mistake of thinking that MLB money and influence doesn't still have major sway in NCAA Baseball.

flippinhogmana

the thing about Dallas Baptist and Missouri State is that they are both from the Missouri Valley Conference, in essence the only two good teams from that conference this year.  They dominated that conference, but Missouri State was clearly the better of the two. 
DB is a good team they beat in single games, Oklahoma for example, lost by only two to Texas A&M, swept a four game series with ORU.  But there are ten teams in the SEC as good or better than them.

They (Dallas Baptist) have, by the way, lost three of their last six games.

In a year that only maybe two SEC teams will be national seeds, there is no way that two MVC teams should be national seeds.  I dont think that two of them should even host.
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A_R_K_A_N_S_A_S

May 22, 2015, 10:33:35 pm #105 Last Edit: May 22, 2015, 11:40:35 pm by A_R_K_A_N_S_A_S
Hogs RPI after the Florida loss on Friday at 10:30pm = #30.

#33 at 11:40pm on Friday night.

ricepig

Quote from: A_R_K_A_N_S_A_S on May 22, 2015, 10:33:35 pm
Hogs RPI after the Florida loss on Friday at 10:30pm = #30.

#33 at 11:40pm on Friday night.

#34 this morning.

ricepig

Down to #36 after all of Saturday's games.

ricepig

"Selection Process: Thirty-one conference champions qualify automatically, while 33 teams earn at-large berths from the NCAA Division I Baseball Committee. The 16 regional sites will be announced Sunday at 6 p.m. Pacific Time via ESPN's Bottom Line"

Suidae Suis Scrofa

Quote from: ricepig on May 24, 2015, 07:42:04 am
"The 16 regional sites will be announced Sunday at 6 p.m. Pacific Time via ESPN's Bottom Line"
I've been looking for the list of hosting schools, but can't find it anywhere, not on the NCAA site, or ESPN, or even here.  I figured there'd be a thread discussing the hosts by now.  Has the list not yet come out?

-phil

89ALUM

6 pm pacific.  40 minutes to go, still.
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Suidae Suis Scrofa

Quote from: 89ALUM on May 24, 2015, 07:20:49 pm
6 pm pacific.  40 minutes to go, still.

Thanks.  I'm an idiot.  I'm so used to TV schedules being posted in EST that I completely missed the PST in ricepig's post.  What's worse is that I even quoted the PST and still missed it.

-phil

89ALUM

I'm just as eager as you.  Gotta admit I searched ESPN's college page for the last 15 minutes until I realized my mistake.   ::)
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89ALUM

They should also have something posted on this site around the same time ESPN comes out with the info.  http://www.d1baseball.com/
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ricepig

Quote from: 89ALUM on May 24, 2015, 07:26:49 pm
I'm just as eager as you.  Gotta admit I searched ESPN's college page for the last 15 minutes until I realized my mistake.   ::)

Hey, I'm the one who posted it and I had 4pm our time in my mind, haha. There's a reason I dropped being an engineer because of Calculus, and those other math classes.

A_R_K_A_N_S_A_S

May 24, 2015, 07:30:47 pm #115 Last Edit: May 25, 2015, 12:16:42 am by A_R_K_A_N_S_A_S


http://www.ncaa.com/news/baseball/article/2015-05-24/sixteen-regional-sites-selected-2015-division-i-baseball


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The regional sites are:


• Baton Rouge, Louisiana – LSU (48-10)












A_R_K_A_N_S_A_S

May 24, 2015, 07:32:11 pm #116 Last Edit: May 24, 2015, 08:20:46 pm by A_R_K_A_N_S_A_S
• Champaign, Illinois – Illinois (47-8-1)


A_R_K_A_N_S_A_S

May 24, 2015, 07:32:44 pm #117 Last Edit: May 24, 2015, 08:21:13 pm by A_R_K_A_N_S_A_S
• College Station, Texas – Texas A&M (45-11)


ricepig

aTm will host.

I'll let you do it.

A_R_K_A_N_S_A_S

May 24, 2015, 07:33:38 pm #119 Last Edit: May 24, 2015, 08:21:39 pm by A_R_K_A_N_S_A_S
• Coral Gables, Florida – Miami (Fla.) (44-14)








A_R_K_A_N_S_A_S

May 24, 2015, 07:34:41 pm #120 Last Edit: May 24, 2015, 08:22:10 pm by A_R_K_A_N_S_A_S
• Dallas, Texas – Dallas Baptist (43-13)


A_R_K_A_N_S_A_S

May 24, 2015, 07:35:35 pm #121 Last Edit: May 24, 2015, 08:22:34 pm by A_R_K_A_N_S_A_S
• Fort Worth, Texas – TCU (43-11)


ricepig

No Fayetteville, they're in alphabetical order, not like we expected to.

A_R_K_A_N_S_A_S

May 24, 2015, 07:36:38 pm #123 Last Edit: May 24, 2015, 08:23:12 pm by A_R_K_A_N_S_A_S
 • Fullerton, California – Cal State Fullerton (34-22)



 

A_R_K_A_N_S_A_S

May 24, 2015, 07:37:46 pm #124 Last Edit: May 25, 2015, 12:19:24 am by A_R_K_A_N_S_A_S
• Gainesville, Florida – Florida (44-16)


jry04

Quote from: A_R_K_A_N_S_A_S on May 24, 2015, 07:36:38 pm
Fullerton, California will host a 2015 Baseball Regional. #RoadToOmaha
I would assume this is as a 2 seed with UC Santa Barbara as the #1.

A_R_K_A_N_S_A_S

May 24, 2015, 07:38:46 pm #126 Last Edit: May 24, 2015, 08:24:01 pm by A_R_K_A_N_S_A_S
• Houston, Texas – Houston (42-18)









Tigaman

Quote from: jry04 on May 24, 2015, 07:38:26 pm
I would assume this is as a 2 seed with UC Santa Barbara as the #1.

Can't because they are in the same conference.

jry04

Wow never mind. UCSB is a host, too.

A_R_K_A_N_S_A_S

May 24, 2015, 07:40:07 pm #129 Last Edit: May 24, 2015, 08:24:48 pm by A_R_K_A_N_S_A_S
• Lake Elsinore, California – UC Santa Barbara (40-15-1)



A_R_K_A_N_S_A_S

May 24, 2015, 07:40:25 pm #130 Last Edit: May 24, 2015, 08:25:12 pm by A_R_K_A_N_S_A_S
• Los Angeles, California – UCLA (42-14)



jry04

Quote from: Tigaman on May 24, 2015, 07:39:20 pm
Can't because they are in the same conference.
Good call, didn't think about that. Pretty ridiculous that both those schools get to host, in my opinion.

A_R_K_A_N_S_A_S

May 24, 2015, 07:42:09 pm #132 Last Edit: May 24, 2015, 08:25:38 pm by A_R_K_A_N_S_A_S
 • Louisville, Kentucky – Louisville (43-16)


A_R_K_A_N_S_A_S

May 24, 2015, 07:42:32 pm #133 Last Edit: May 24, 2015, 08:26:04 pm by A_R_K_A_N_S_A_S
• Nashville, Tennessee – Vanderbilt (*42-18)


A_R_K_A_N_S_A_S

May 24, 2015, 07:43:22 pm #134 Last Edit: May 24, 2015, 08:26:29 pm by A_R_K_A_N_S_A_S
  • Springfield, Missouri – Missouri State (45-10)


A_R_K_A_N_S_A_S

May 24, 2015, 07:44:23 pm #135 Last Edit: May 24, 2015, 08:26:57 pm by A_R_K_A_N_S_A_S
 • Stillwater, Oklahoma – Oklahoma State (37-18)


A_R_K_A_N_S_A_S

May 24, 2015, 07:45:24 pm #136 Last Edit: May 24, 2015, 08:27:21 pm by A_R_K_A_N_S_A_S
• Tallahassee, Florida – Florida State (41-19)


jry04

UC Santa Barbara will be hosting 3 hours from home. That tells you the NCAA truly does not put much emphasis on crowd size.


BroyledNutts

3 in California, 3 in Florida, 4 in Texas....1 ea. everywhere else. The 4 in the SEC we all knew would host.

bulldog04

We should go to Springfield, TX, or Stillwater but will end up going to Illinois or Cali

ricepig

Quote from: jry04 on May 24, 2015, 07:50:10 pm
UC Santa Barbara will be hosting 3 hours from home. That tells you the NCAA truly does not put much emphasis on crowd size.

Yeah, reading between Fitt and Rogers, they and many others were surprised.

BroyledNutts

Quote from: bulldog04 on May 24, 2015, 07:51:17 pm
We should go to Springfield, TX, or Stillwater but will end up going to Illinois or Cali

I'm guessing Houston or Stoolwater...Springfield would be overwhelmed with Razorback fans.

jry04

Quote from: bulldog04 on May 24, 2015, 07:51:17 pm
We should go to Springfield, TX, or Stillwater but will end up going to Illinois or Cali
I highly doubt it, but we will see.

jry04

Quote from: BroyledNutts on May 24, 2015, 07:54:46 pm
I'm guessing Houston or Stoolwater...Springfield would be overwhelmed with Razorback fans.
Well, they had TAMU and Texas in Rice. There was more maroon and orange than Rice fans there. Rice went 1-2, and they got 3 Texas v TAMU games.

Houston would be idiotic, but a lot of what the NCAA does is idiotic. They claim every year that geography plays a huge role in the filling of the bracket. If that is the truth, Stillwater, Dallas, or Springfield will be a lock. Too many hosts within 6 hours of us for us to be shipped elsewhere.

ricepig

Quote from: bulldog04 on May 24, 2015, 07:51:17 pm
We should go to Springfield, TX, or Stillwater but will end up going to Illinois or Cali

There should be enough teams out west to fill most of those spots, but with them giving UCSB a host spot, there's no telling where we end up.

jry04

Quote from: ricepig on May 24, 2015, 07:58:58 pm
There should be enough teams out west to fill most of those spots, but with them giving UCSB a host spot, there's no telling where we end up.
The problem is, most of the west coast teams who will be in are Pac 12 teams. Arizona State, Cal, Oregon State, and USC all have 2 seed resumes, and Oregon will be a 3 if they make it in. Safe to say CSF and UCSB will have a pac 12 school in their regional, but those others will be shipper pretty far our this way, so someone will have to be shipped out there. Hopefully we have done enough to keep us in this area. It would be ridiculous if we aren't.

A_R_K_A_N_S_A_S

Quote from: jry04 on May 24, 2015, 08:06:37 pm
The problem is, most of the west coast teams who will be in are Pac 12 teams. Arizona State, Cal, Oregon State, and USC all have 2 seed resumes, and Oregon will be a 3 if they make it in. Safe to say CSF and UCSB will have a pac 12 school in their regional, but those others will be shipper pretty far our this way, so someone will have to be shipped out there. Hopefully we have done enough to keep us in this area. It would be ridiculous if we aren't.
Oregon has the #62 RPI, if they get in, the SEC should have 9-10 teams in.

They shouldn't give so many host sites out west if they can't keep teams home to fill the regionals, right?   I guess geographic regionalization only counts when it fits the agenda.

PorcineSublime

Quote from: jry04 on May 24, 2015, 07:50:10 pm
UC Santa Barbara will be hosting 3 hours from home. That tells you the NCAA truly does not put much emphasis on crowd size.
So how the heck is this a thing? That would be like AR hosting in Tulsa.
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Dr. Starcs

^^^

Or like the razorbacks playing games in little rock (sorry, had to)