Portis projected to go to Dallas Mavericks in recent mock draft

[TheRazorbackGuy]

http://m.bleacherreport.com/articles/2432215-nba-draft-lottery-2015-projected-order-and-odds-for-every-team-involved


Go to the bottom and look at the 1st round projected.  :razorback: :razorback:

[HSVhogfan2]

I know the Pacers and New Orleans are also interested. The Suns were but I think not so much now. I think I would honestly rather drop and play for Dallas.

[Inhogswetrust]

Mock drafts are a.......................mockery.

[EastMemphisHog]

Mock drafts are a.......................mockery.

But this one is from bleacher report....

[TheRazorbackGuy]

Mock drafts are a.......................mockery.

Sounds like someone is still crying bcuz Portis is beginning his professional career

[Huds_HawgTide]

I wouldnt of entered if i wasnt gonna be a top 12 pick

[z1on]

Sounds like someone is still crying bcuz Portis is beginning his professional career

How is that crying? Most "mock" drafts are almost always wrong.

[razorbackchamps94]

I wouldnt of entered if i wasnt gonna be a top 12 pick

Agree .. I would say pick 1 Thur 15 would cause you to come out .. After 15 come back for jr year

[TheRazorbackGuy]

How is that crying? Most "mock" drafts are almost always wrong.

Players get drafted amid traded all the time. This doesn't mean it gives us an indication around where he will be picked.

Agree .. I would say pick 1 Thur 15 would cause you to come out .. After 15 come back for jr year

Your being a fan and not thinking logically. HawgRed said Portis gets 4 years and over 8 million if picked in the late teens or early 20s. I would rather go play against the best players on the planet and make millions rather than live in Walton Dorm, Eat at the Union and play for free while risking injury. Your being a fan instead of thinking it out. Quit crying he gave us 2 great years.

[GlassofSwine]

Agree .. I would say pick 1 Thur 15 would cause you to come out .. After 15 come back for jr year

The real difference is though how high can you move up by coming back. If you come back and don't improve your draft position to a guaranteed Top 10 pick than you really haven't moved the needle very much. So the real question if Bobby came back would he be a Top 10 pick or would he still be looking at late lottery - end of the 1st for a projection.

According to the rookie salary scale there is very little difference the lower in the 1st rd you go. The base difference between the 1st-2nd pick of the draft is the same as the difference of falling from 12th to 18th. Likewise if you were go to 30th in the draft you would be in line for around 900k a year. 15th in the draft puts you at 1.5 million a year. While that is a 600k/year difference if someone told you on the high end you would start at 1.5 million and the low end would be 900k and likely you would be probably in the 1.2 million range. I don't know how you leave that on the table without being 100% positive that you can make a big jump up the draft board by returning.

[Biggus Piggus]

The real difference is though how high can you move up by coming back. If you come back and don't improve your draft position to a guaranteed Top 10 pick than you really haven't moved the needle very much. So the real question if Bobby came back would he be a Top 10 pick or would he still be looking at late lottery - end of the 1st for a projection.

According to the rookie salary scale there is very little difference the lower in the 1st rd you go. The base difference between the 1st-2nd pick of the draft is the same as the difference of falling from 12th to 18th. Likewise if you were go to 30th in the draft you would be in line for around 900k a year. 15th in the draft puts you at 1.5 million a year. While that is a 600k/year difference if someone told you on the high end you would start at 1.5 million and the low end would be 900k and likely you would be probably in the 1.2 million range. I don't know how you leave that on the table without being 100% positive that you can make a big jump up the draft board by returning.

But there's a tremendous difference between top 10 and 20+ when it comes to having any ability to build wealth, especially when you are talking about giving a lot to family members. These guys don't have a clue about how much taxes and agent fees and travel expenses matter. There's a certain base amount you have to spend anyway. Everything you earn over that level, you have a chance to save. Top 10 is far better than 15 or below, at least until you get that second contract (if you ever do).

[riccoar]

Your being a fan and not thinking logically. HawgRed said Portis gets 4 years and over 8 million if picked in the late teens or early 20s. I would rather go play against the best players on the planet and make millions rather than live in Walton Dorm, Eat at the Union and play for free while risking injury. Your being a fan instead of thinking it out. Quit crying he gave us 2 great years.

Not what he said and my reply to him clarified that.  ONLY year 1 and 2 base is guaranteed.  At 17th that would mean he will get about $3 million.  It could eventually total that $8 million mark IF he gets everything but that won't be know until after his second year.

I get some are crying.  I'm not.  I fall right along with what Biggus is saying.  If a kid goes, I want him going where his highest potential for earning exists.  If he lands in that 20+ range, he could come back and easily move into the lottery next season.  Bobby does not come from a wealthy family, so he's not just bankrolling himself.  Like Biggus said, those taxes and fees are going to be an eye opener.

[Hawg Red]

Not what he said and my reply to him clarified that.  ONLY year 1 and 2 base is guaranteed.  At 17th that would mean he will get about $3 million.  It could eventually total that $8 million mark IF he gets everything but that won't be know until after his second year.

We'll know after his first season if he's getting another near 2 million by the team picking up his 3rd year option.  Very rare to have a player not get at least that third year, but it happened to Arkansas' own James Anderson with the Spurs.

[riccoar]

We'll know after his first season if he's getting another near 2 million by the team picking up his 3rd year option.  Very rare to have a player not get at least that third year, but it happened to Arkansas' own James Anderson with the Spurs.

Trust me, I'd love nothing more than Bobby one day get Joe Johnson type money.

[Gerald Gilber]

I look for the Sacramento Kings to take Portis

[TheRazorbackGuy]

I look for the Sacramento Kings to take Portis

I dont think Portis is going in the top 7 and that's wher George Karl will be picking

[Inhogswetrust]

Sounds like someone is still crying bcuz Portis is beginning his professional career

Are you kidding! You need to read my posts. I'm VERY happy for him. I just think following how someone THINKS or has a fantasy about how drafts will play out is stupid.

[Gerald Gilber]

I dont think Portis is going in the top 7 and that's wher George Karl will be picking

has this already been determined

[Madface Magician]

It'll be Spurs,or OKC

[dhornjr1]

has this already been determined

No. The order of the lottery won't be determined until May 19.

[TheRazorbackGuy]

No. The order of the lottery won't be determined until May 19.

1   Minnesota Timberwolves   25 Percent
2   New York Knicks   19.9 Percent
3   Philadelphia 76ers   15.6 Percent
4   Los Angeles Lakers   11.9 Percent
5   Orlando Magic   8.8 Percent
6   Sacramento Kings   6.3 Percent
7   Denver Nuggets   4.3 Percent
8   Detroit Pistons   2.8 Percent
9   Charlotte Hornets   1.7 Percent
10   Miami Heat   1.1 Percent
11   Indiana Pacers*   0.8 Percent
12   Utah Jazz*   0.7 Percent
13   Phoenix Suns   0.6 Percent
14   Oklahoma City Thunder   0.5 Percent

[3kgthog]

When was the last time the worst team actually won the lottery? It seems like it's been several years.

[TheRazorbackGuy]

When was the last time the worst team actually won the lottery? It seems like it's been several years.

One of their darlings the Knicks or Lakers will probably get it. They kept getting Cleveland to win it so LeBron would return to Cleveland and it worked out.

[Hawg Red]

I know the Cavs won to get LeBron and they were the worst. Not sure there's been anyone since.

[dhornjr1]

One of their darlings the Knicks or Lakers will probably get it. They kept getting Cleveland to win it so LeBron would return to Cleveland and it worked out.

Not sure I'd call the Lakers an NBA darling any more after what David Stern did to them in the aborted Chris Paul deal.

That one action set the Lakers franchise back years.

[cosmodrum]

The Mavs are the only team in Texas I like (don't hate the Texans, I guess), so I really like this.

[Hawg Red]

Portis has re-entered the NBADraft.net 2015 mock draft at #17 to Milwaukee. That might be a good spot for him. Young, up-and-coming team with a need for a big. They're currently starting Jared Dudley at PF (6'7 small forward -- think Powell). Jabari Parker will be back next season, and will start at either PF or SF with Giannis Antetokounmpo at the other forward spot, most likely. Giannis could start at SG, depending on what happens with Khris Middleton (FA). John Henson is also in the mix, but he also plays center. There were times this season when Johnny O'Bryant III would get extended minutes, and Bobby is a better player than he is.

[Hawg Red]

Reading the notes from the Pacers exit press conference, and they're talking about wanting to go smaller and faster next season. Sounds like Roy Hibbert, if he does opt in as expected, will have a greatly reduced role. Probably the same for David West (also has to opt in). I know Bobby isn't exactly a burner, but we know he can run the floor and he's mobile. Might be something to look at it come draft time.

The Pacers have the #11 pick, based on record. Could change at the draft lottery but unlikely.

[Hawg Red]

Oh, and NBADraft.net has Qualls going #55 to San Antonio. There's talk that there are a few NBA teams legitimately interested in Qualls.

[Big Nasty 34]

Please go to Dallas!! Would be perfect setup for him i think under Dirk.

[TheRazorbackGuy]

Oh, and NBADraft.net has Qualls going #55 to San Antonio. There's talk that there are a few NBA teams legitimately interested in Qualls.

HawgRed, there is going to be some coach that will love Qualls and think they can coach him up

[WooPig90]

With the cap going up in the NBA after next year, Portis would have probably made double coming out next year!

[Hogimus Prime]

Oh, and NBADraft.net has Qualls going #55 to San Antonio. There's talk that there are a few NBA teams legitimately interested in Qualls.

Seems like Qualls fits the Spurs.  Athletic and can catch and shoot.  Plus he would get some good coach from coach Pop.

[OS2 (SW) Razor Back]

I hope BP gets drafted by OKC!!!

[TheRazorbackGuy]

I hope BP gets drafted by OKC!!!

Id kinda like Qualls to come to Denver and be an energy off the bench guy better than Randy Foye.

[Biggus Piggus]

USA Today today had a mock draft and pegged Bobby Portis in the 19th slot, going to Washington.

http://sportswire.usatoday.com/2015/04/20/2015-nba-mock-draft-3-0-karl-anthony-towns-new-york-knicks-jahlil-okafor-frank-kaminsky-los-angeles-lakers-sam-dekker-boston-celtics/

They show Michael Qualls going 39th to Charlotte. That's interesting.

[hawgsalot]

So the 4th PF off the board, interesting.

[chiefhawg]

NBADraft.net has Bobby at 17 to the Bucks and Qualls at 56 (2nd Rd) to the Pelicans.
http://www.nbadraft.net/2015mock_draft

Draft Express also has Bobby at 17 to the Bucks and Qualls at 39 to the Hornets.

http://www.draftexpress.com/nba-mock-draft/2015/

[Adam Stokes]

Brings up an interesting question with Qualls.  At which pick does it become a positive that he left early?  I think most of us were upset that he didn't come back since we figured he might go undrafted or be late 2nd round.  I don't think it necessarily had to be a 1st round/guaranteed contract in my opinion for it to be worth it to him, I'd probably put the line at about 40.  I disagreed with his decision initially, but if he gets picked early 2nd round he may be proving me wrong.

[latrops]

Brings up an interesting question with Qualls.  At which pick does it become a positive that he left early?  I think most of us were upset that he didn't come back since we figured he might go undrafted or be late 2nd round.  I don't think it necessarily had to be a 1st round/guaranteed contract in my opinion for it to be worth it to him, I'd probably put the line at about 40.  I disagreed with his decision initially, but if he gets picked early 2nd round he may be proving me wrong.

Initially, he needs to be a first round pick for his departure to be a selling point to recruits.  There is nothing wrong with being drafted in the 2nd round and playing in the D-league, then eventually making an NBA roster as a bench player....but that isn't a compelling pitch to top 100 players.

A few years from now, if he is contributing on an NBA team, then it doesn't much matter where or even if he was drafted as long as he has name recognition to recruits.  Number of first round picks, lottery picks, and names they know....that's what highschool stars with their eyes on the NBA are likely to respond to.

Whether it works out for him, personally, depends on his expectations.  If he left with the expectation that there is a good chance he will have to play in a foreign country, and is ready to embrace that...then he could go undrafted and be fine with his decision as long as he gets a decent paycheck somewhere.

[TheRazorbackGuy]

Initially, he needs to be a first round pick for his departure to be a selling point to recruits.  There is nothing wrong with being drafted in the 2nd round and playing in the D-league, then eventually making an NBA roster as a bench player....but that isn't a compelling pitch to top 100 players.

A few years from now, if he is contributing on an NBA team, then it doesn't much matter where or even if he was drafted as long as he has name recognition to recruits.  Number of first round picks, lottery picks, and names they know....that's what highschool stars with their eyes on the NBA are likely to respond to.

Whether it works out for him, personally, depends on his expectations.  If he left with the expectation that there is a good chance he will have to play in a foreign country, and is ready to embrace that...then he could go undrafted and be fine with his decision as long as he gets a decent paycheck somewhere.

Qualls could go high in the 2nd round

http://basketball.realgm.com/nba/draft/lottery_simulator

[Hawg Red]

Couple of things that have helped both Portis and Qualls in recent days:

- Caris LeVert is returning to Michigan -- helps Qualls.

- Kris Dunn is returning to Providence -- helps Portis.

[Hawg Red]

Portis moving up mock drafts recently:

NBADraft.net - #15

Draft Express - #16

Sam Vecenie (CBS Sports) - #11

Gary Parrish (CBS Sports) - # 17 (still has to up and take Kris Dunn [ahead of Portis] out)

Zach Harper (CBS Sport) - #19

Chad Ford (ESPN) - #19 (from mock draft 4.0, haven't seen mock 4.1)

[Inhogswetrust]

Portis moving up mock drafts recently:

NBADraft.net - #15

Draft Express - #16

Sam Vecenie (CBS Sports) - #11

Gary Parrish (CBS Sports) - # 17 (still has to up and take Kris Dunn [ahead of Portis] out)

Zach Harper (CBS Sport) - #19

Chad Ford (ESPN) - #19 (from mock draft 4.0, haven't seen mock 4.1)

At least Four of those are going to be wrong and possibly all Six since two have it the same #. Like I said following what others say about where someone is going to be drafted is stupid. IF they were paid by how many they got exactly right those people would have to go on welfare.

[Hawg Red]

At least Four of those are going to be wrong and possibly all Six since two have it the same #. Like I said following what others say about where someone is going to be drafted is stupid. IF they were paid by how many they got exactly right those people would have to go on welfare.

Chill out.

Just posting what media members think could happen. I've posted my thoughts on mock drafts and their usefulness enough here already. I think you're taking it a little too seriously.

[Inhogswetrust]

Chill out.

Just posting what media members think could happen. I've posted my thoughts on mock drafts and their usefulness enough here already. I think you're taking it a little too seriously.

No. You chill out. I'm having fun. Those that follow so-called "draft" experts are taking it too serious and are dumb. IF you follow "drafting" seriously enough so that you feel you need to post about it then it isn't me that needs to chill.

[ErieHog]

With the cap going up in the NBA after next year, Portis would have probably made double coming out next year!

No.  Rookie salary is scaled, and locked for the duration of the existing CBA.

[daprospecta]

I usually only watch the NBA during playoff time and I watched Dirk the other night.  He's done.  Those fadeaways that he was known for aren't falling like they used to.  He's not getting the same lift of his legs and I hate to say it, he's done.  I think Bobby could be the perfect replacement.  Learn under Dirk a year or two and replace him. 

[Hawg Red]

No. You chill out. I'm having fun. Those that follow so-called "draft" experts are taking it too serious and are dumb. IF you follow "drafting" seriously enough so that you feel you need to post about it then it isn't me that needs to chill.

One message board poster calls another message board poster a poster and expects it to land with any kind of effectiveness.

Comical.

Also comical, you calling someone else dumb.

[Hawg Red]

I usually only watch the NBA during playoff time and I watched Dirk the other night.  He's done.  Those fadeaways that he was known for aren't falling like they used to.  He's not getting the same lift of his legs and I hate to say it, he's done.  I think Bobby could be the perfect replacement.  Learn under Dirk a year or two and replace him.

What's your definition of "done?" Because he averaged 17 PPG this year and his %s show he shot the ball just fine. Sure, he's no longer an All-NBA player, but I don't think that should be the barometer for whether or not someone is "done."