The Mess left behind

[zuko]

As far as i'm concerned, Chad Morris speaks with a forked tongue and I think about the mess he will leave behind. I say  will leave behind, because he's probably not finished gutting the SMU football organization. To leave a team after the second year to me is devoid of consideration for the recruits and families that he preached all good things in order to get them to come to SMU. Lane Kiffin did it and got crucified. Chad Morris does it and gets loved. Can you imagine what the families of the players are thinking now about when the recruiter came to their house and promised all kinds of good things to get their son/s to come to SMU, can they ever believe another one again.  I mean it's not like the guy was there 4,5 or six years, only after two years with nothing special about his record at SMU except on really bad year and a somewhat improved record the second and we bought it. Morris will probably ask some of his assistants to join him at Arkansas, so now we see old SMU starting over again after only 2 years of Chad Morris. Success breeds contempt and I sure have it in this case. AH BUT FOF THE SAKE OF MONEY.

[Hogtrillian]

Delete this.

He moved at the end of 3 years after he had set them up for success, it's not like he left them high and dry. Scott Frost, Willie Taggart both left after just 1 year.

It's the nature of the business.

[apcapri]

But he was there 3 years so..

[davril98]

I think he was there 3 years.
Very Pollyanna of you to not get that's how tht business works.

[Pig in the Pokey]

As far as i'm concerned, Chad Morris speaks with a forked tongue and I think about the mess he will leave behind. I say  will leave behind, because he's probably not finished gutting the SMU football organization. To leave a team after the second year to me is devoid of consideration for the recruits and families that he preached all good things in order to get them to come to SMU. Lane Kiffin did it and got crucified. Chad Morris does it and gets loved. Can you imagine what the families of the players are thinking now about when the recruiter came to their house and promised all kinds of good things to get their son/s to come to SMU, can they ever believe another one again.  I mean it's not like the guy was there 4,5 or six years, only after two years with nothing special about his record at SMU except on really bad year and a somewhat improved record the second and we bought it. Morris will probably ask some of his assistants to join him at Arkansas, so now we see old SMU starting over again after only 2 years of Chad Morris. Success breeds contempt and I sure have it in this case. AH BUT FOF THE SAKE OF MONEY.

[HogMantheIntruder]

As far as i'm concerned, Chad Morris speaks with a forked tongue and I think about the mess he will leave behind. I say  will leave behind, because he's probably not finished gutting the SMU football organization. To leave a team after the second year to me is devoid of consideration for the recruits and families that he preached all good things in order to get them to come to SMU. Lane Kiffin did it and got crucified. Chad Morris does it and gets loved. Can you imagine what the families of the players are thinking now about when the recruiter came to their house and promised all kinds of good things to get their son/s to come to SMU, can they ever believe another one again.  I mean it's not like the guy was there 4,5 or six years, only after two years with nothing special about his record at SMU except on really bad year and a somewhat improved record the second and we bought it. Morris will probably ask some of his assistants to join him at Arkansas, so now we see old SMU starting over again after only 2 years of Chad Morris. Success breeds contempt and I sure have it in this case. AH BUT FOF THE SAKE OF MONEY.

Really?

[Hog Waller]

I think he be mad.

[RazorPiggie]

You don't send your kids to SMU for football. You do for academics.

[dpetty121263]

As far as i'm concerned, Chad Morris speaks with a forked tongue and I think about the mess he will leave behind. I say  will leave behind, because he's probably not finished gutting the SMU football organization. To leave a team after the second year to me is devoid of consideration for the recruits and families that he preached all good things in order to get them to come to SMU. Lane Kiffin did it and got crucified. Chad Morris does it and gets loved. Can you imagine what the families of the players are thinking now about when the recruiter came to their house and promised all kinds of good things to get their son/s to come to SMU, can they ever believe another one again.  I mean it's not like the guy was there 4,5 or six years, only after two years with nothing special about his record at SMU except on really bad year and a somewhat improved record the second and we bought it. Morris will probably ask some of his assistants to join him at Arkansas, so now we see old SMU starting over again after only 2 years of Chad Morris. Success breeds contempt and I sure have it in this case. AH BUT FOF THE SAKE OF MONEY.

Garbage....

[OneTuskOverTheLine™]

 SMU fan right..? Hey, I feel ya. I really do, but you got 3 years out of the guy, a change of attitude and a cupboard full of talent. You can always get someone from Texas HS ranks, or go buy another coach. The SEC is an opportunity no one should have to pass up... Y'all can either chose to get mad or get better. Keep winning and work your way up into one of the big conferences...
I'm telling you the real. Most folks will put y'all down and say your program can't possibly get there. I'm old enough to remember when SMU was a peer program. If Baylor can do it that rich ass school of yours can too.

[hogsanity]

As far as i'm concerned, Chad Morris speaks with a forked tongue and I think about the mess he will leave behind. I say  will leave behind, because he's probably not finished gutting the SMU football organization. To leave a team after the second year to me is devoid of consideration for the recruits and families that he preached all good things in order to get them to come to SMU. Lane Kiffin did it and got crucified. Chad Morris does it and gets loved. Can you imagine what the families of the players are thinking now about when the recruiter came to their house and promised all kinds of good things to get their son/s to come to SMU, can they ever believe another one again.  I mean it's not like the guy was there 4,5 or six years, only after two years with nothing special about his record at SMU except on really bad year and a somewhat improved record the second and we bought it. Morris will probably ask some of his assistants to join him at Arkansas, so now we see old SMU starting over again after only 2 years of Chad Morris. Success breeds contempt and I sure have it in this case. AH BUT FOF THE SAKE OF MONEY.

So, based on this, no sitting coach should ever leave where he is currently? Would you have been cool if they would have hired Norvell, only at Memphis 2 yrs as HC? Kiffin, 1 yr at FAU? If coaches are not suppose d to leave where they are then who should we have hired?

[Sonofahog]

Arkansas State was fine when St. Gus left after ONE year.  Schools that are stepping stones know they are stepping stones.

[Dwight_K_Shrute]

Good Lord people please get your facts straight.

Scott Frost is leaving UCF after 3 season.  0 wins before he got there, to 6 to undefeated.  I think they will take that any day of the week and the parting has been very gracious and amicable between the two.  They realize where he is going and thank him for getting them to heights never before seen.

Morris left SMU after 3, not 2.

These G5 schools realize if their coach does well other schools will come after them.  They also realize that means the coach more than likely is leaving them in much better shape.

A-State had 3 coaches leave in 3 years.  Didn't seem too bitter about it just kept hiring good coaches.  It what the G5 does.

Get a clue and stop using it as an excuse to dog on Morris.

[AHorseWithNoName]

As far as i'm concerned, Chad Morris speaks with a forked tongue and I think about the mess he will leave behind. I say  will leave behind, because he's probably not finished gutting the SMU football organization. To leave a team after the second year to me is devoid of consideration for the recruits and families that he preached all good things in order to get them to come to SMU. Lane Kiffin did it and got crucified. Chad Morris does it and gets loved. Can you imagine what the families of the players are thinking now about when the recruiter came to their house and promised all kinds of good things to get their son/s to come to SMU, can they ever believe another one again.  I mean it's not like the guy was there 4,5 or six years, only after two years with nothing special about his record at SMU except on really bad year and a somewhat improved record the second and we bought it. Morris will probably ask some of his assistants to join him at Arkansas, so now we see old SMU starting over again after only 2 years of Chad Morris. Success breeds contempt and I sure have it in this case. AH BUT FOF THE SAKE OF MONEY.

First of all, he was at SMU for 3 years.   

Second, he took them from 0-12 to a bowl game.  If you'd do a little research on the climate in 2014 versus what it is now, you'd realize that he turned things around.  Go read what the SMU faithful are saying.  They loved him.  Hated to see him go.  But are thankful for what he did for SMU football. 

Third, this is called Big Boy College Football.   Do you honestly think that any parent or player thought Morris would stay at SMU until he retired? 

Fourth, Coaches coach because they love kids, they love the sport, and YES, it's called "their career".  Coaches are like SuperModels, they are short lived and there are more younger and more attractive ones just outside the door.  So they'd better make the money when they can. 

If he had not won a game at SMU, do you think those parents and players that you mentioned would be wanting him to "honor his commitment"?   I doubt it! 

[Dropkick]

As far as i'm concerned, Chad Morris speaks with a forked tongue and I think about the mess he will leave behind. I say  will leave behind, because he's probably not finished gutting the SMU football organization. To leave a team after the second year to me is devoid of consideration for the recruits and families that he preached all good things in order to get them to come to SMU. Lane Kiffin did it and got crucified. Chad Morris does it and gets loved. Can you imagine what the families of the players are thinking now about when the recruiter came to their house and promised all kinds of good things to get their son/s to come to SMU, can they ever believe another one again.  I mean it's not like the guy was there 4,5 or six years, only after two years with nothing special about his record at SMU except on really bad year and a somewhat improved record the second and we bought it. Morris will probably ask some of his assistants to join him at Arkansas, so now we see old SMU starting over again after only 2 years of Chad Morris. Success breeds contempt and I sure have it in this case. AH BUT FOF THE SAKE OF MONEY.

total fail

[FullTiltBoogie]

Money talks. His players at SMU have wished him nothing but the best. SMU knows this kind of thing is going to happen. Just because he left for another job, after 3 years,  doesn't mean he wasn't a man of his word while he was there.

[Hogtrillian]

Good Lord people please get your facts straight.

Scott Frost is leaving UCF after 3 season.  0 wins before he got there, to 6 to undefeated.  I think they will take that any day of the week and the parting has been very gracious and amicable between the two.  They realize where he is going and thank him for getting them to heights never before seen.

We're both wrong on this. Frost was there 2 years, he took over at the start of 2016.

[TomasPistola]

As far as i'm concerned, Chad Morris speaks with a forked tongue and I think about the mess he will leave behind. I say  will leave behind, because he's probably not finished gutting the SMU football organization. To leave a team after the second year to me is devoid of consideration for the recruits and families that he preached all good things in order to get them to come to SMU. Lane Kiffin did it and got crucified. Chad Morris does it and gets loved. Can you imagine what the families of the players are thinking now about when the recruiter came to their house and promised all kinds of good things to get their son/s to come to SMU, can they ever believe another one again.  I mean it's not like the guy was there 4,5 or six years, only after two years with nothing special about his record at SMU except on really bad year and a somewhat improved record the second and we bought it. Morris will probably ask some of his assistants to join him at Arkansas, so now we see old SMU starting over again after only 2 years of Chad Morris. Success breeds contempt and I sure have it in this case. AH BUT FOF THE SAKE OF MONEY.

Chill out Zuko baby. Is Sandy refusing to put out again?

[DeltaBoy]

Cry me a RIVER!

[Vantage 8 dude]

As far as i'm concerned, Chad Morris speaks with a forked tongue and I think about the mess he will leave behind. I say  will leave behind, because he's probably not finished gutting the SMU football organization. To leave a team after the second year to me is devoid of consideration for the recruits and families that he preached all good things in order to get them to come to SMU. Lane Kiffin did it and got crucified. Chad Morris does it and gets loved. Can you imagine what the families of the players are thinking now about when the recruiter came to their house and promised all kinds of good things to get their son/s to come to SMU, can they ever believe another one again.  I mean it's not like the guy was there 4,5 or six years, only after two years with nothing special about his record at SMU except on really bad year and a somewhat improved record the second and we bought it. Morris will probably ask some of his assistants to join him at Arkansas, so now we see old SMU starting over again after only 2 years of Chad Morris. Success breeds contempt and I sure have it in this case. AH BUT FOF THE SAKE OF MONEY.

Are you naturally this stupid or are you a self-made man

[zuko]

Delete this.

He moved at the end of 3 years after he had set them up for success, it's not like he left them high and dry. Scott Frost, Willie Taggart both left after just 1 year.

It's the nature of the business.

I didn't even count the first year, so how does 14 & 22 add up to a head coaching job at the UofA?

[zuko]

Chill out Zuko baby. Is Sandy refusing to put out again?

Let's keep it clean man, not the place for that and it's personal

[zuko]

Are you naturally this stupid or are you a self-made man

Apparently with using the word stupid you intend to put a hurt on me for no reason. If you can't debate intelligently, you should not get involved at all. Then again, you may not possess the intelligence to do so.

[zuko]

Chill out Zuko baby. Is Sandy refusing to put out again?

Wow, feel better?

[Vantage 8 dude]

Apparently with using the word stupid you intend to put a hurt on me for no reason. If you can't debate intelligently, you should not get involved at all. Then again, you may not possess the intelligence to do so.

Well let me ask it another way then: Are you naturally an idiot or are you a self-made man?

[PonderinHog]

That's what Methodists do!   

[East Clintwood]

Every coach, whether he's been there 2 years or 12 years, leaves behind his most recent recruiting classes when he moves on.   

It's an ongoing process and someone is always going to be on the short end.  It's the way the business works and you're not going to change it.

[ricepig]

That's what Methodists do!   

Well.......the big churches get to keep their "coaches" if they wish too.......

[zuko]

SMU fan right..? Hey, I feel ya. I really do, but you got 3 years out of the guy, a change of attitude and a cupboard full of talent. You can always get someone from Texas HS ranks, or go buy another coach. The SEC is an opportunity no one should have to pass up... Y'all can either chose to get mad or get better. Keep winning and work your way up into one of the big conferences...
I'm telling you the real. Most folks will put y'all down and say your program can't possibly get there. I'm old enough to remember when SMU was a peer program. If Baylor can do it that rich ass school of yours can too.

I didn't even count the 1st year. Did you ever give any thought to the possibility that his record got better because the other teams go worse? Sooner or later, teams get better or worse.

[HogMantheIntruder]

  I didn't even count the first year, so how does 14 & 22 add up to a head coaching job at the UofA?

Wait, so are you mad bc he left SMU or bc he was hired at Arkansas?

[farmhawg]

Apparently with using the word stupid you intend to put a hurt on me for no reason. If you can't debate intelligently, you should not get involved at all. Then again, you may not possess the intelligence to do so.

Thats irony at its finest....

[Inhogswetrust]

Apparently with using the word stupid you intend to put a hurt on me for no reason. If you can't debate intelligently, you should not get involved at all. Then again, you may not possess the intelligence to do so.

In that case follow your own advice. You shouldn't be starting threads...........................

[bob slydell]

Wait, so are you mad bc he left SMU or bc he was hired at Arkansas?

Trolls tend to move the goal post when they are just trying to rile folks up.

[Vantage 8 dude]

Well I see where big, bad zuko has apparently deleted his member's account. Now he only appears as a "guest'. Nice.....I suppose it shows the lack of guts this guy has after coming in and trashing our newest hire. Then again, guests are usually wanted where they show up. We can see how long this clown lasted.

[Inhogswetrust]

As far as i'm concerned, Chad Morris speaks with a forked tongue and I think about the mess he will leave behind. I say  will leave behind, because he's probably not finished gutting the SMU football organization. To leave a team after the second year to me is devoid of consideration for the recruits and families that he preached all good things in order to get them to come to SMU. Lane Kiffin did it and got crucified. Chad Morris does it and gets loved. Can you imagine what the families of the players are thinking now about when the recruiter came to their house and promised all kinds of good things to get their son/s to come to SMU, can they ever believe another one again.  I mean it's not like the guy was there 4,5 or six years, only after two years with nothing special about his record at SMU except on really bad year and a somewhat improved record the second and we bought it. Morris will probably ask some of his assistants to join him at Arkansas, so now we see old SMU starting over again after only 2 years of Chad Morris. Success breeds contempt and I sure have it in this case. AH BUT FOF THE SAKE OF MONEY.

You mean nobody is suppose to leave a job for one they consider a better job in two years or less. Wow. Look IF it had been less than a year then most would agree with you but that doesn't even then mean there is a mess left behind. Heck sometimes they even leave after a short time for equal money or only slightly more. Here's a shocker for you. Sometimes regardless of the timeframe it isn't about more money. I should know. I've left for even less money for a job I thought would be better and it was.

[hogcards]

Delete this.

He moved at the end of 3 years after he had set them up for success, it's not like he left them high and dry. Scott Frost, Willie Taggart both left after just 1 year.

It's the nature of the business.

Agree, but why would it have been taboo to have fired Bielema after we knew what we had after year one?