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StubbsGOhogs

First time poster here but long time viewer! All this talk about who would we get if pel is let go? My answer to that is the man that built it all! Now that Broyles is out as ad I think he would do it! Im a believer that the only way to get the program BACK is with the man that created it ALL! Bring him in for 2-3 years it brings the program back instant credibility something that is non existant right now and has been since he left! He still has the fire and would at minimum get us in the right direction! After that i think we would be able to hire a proven coach! Because right now we are just as irrelevant as ualr or a st. hate to say it but its the truth! I bleed cardinal and white and want our dominance in bball to return bring back the LEGENDARY NOLAN RICHARDSON!!! GO HOGS GO!

ErieHog

Drinking while alone on Christmas is a sign of alcoholism.
No cause, ever, in the history of all mankind, has produced more cold-blooded tyrants, more slaughtered innocents, and more orphans than socialism with power. It surpassed, exponentially, all other systems of production in turning out the dead. The bodies are all around us. And here is the problem: No one talks about them. No one honors them. No one does penance for them. No one has committed suicide for having been an apologist for those who did this to them. No one pays for them. No one is hunted down to account for them. It is exactly what Solzhenitsyn foresaw in The Gulag Archipelago: "No, no one would have to answer. No one would be looked into." Until that happens, there is no "after socialism."

 

JIHawg

Quote from: StubbsGOhogs on December 24, 2009, 08:38:59 pm
First time poster here but long time viewer! All this talk about who would we get if pel is let go? My answer to that is the man that built it all! Now that Broyles is out as ad I think he would do it! Im a believer that the only way to get the program BACK is with the man that created it ALL! Bring him in for 2-3 years it brings the program back instant credibility something that is non existant right now and has been since he left! He still has the fire and would at minimum get us in the right direction! After that i think we would be able to hire a proven coach! Because right now we are just as irrelevant as ualr or a st. hate to say it but its the truth! I bleed cardinal and white and want our dominance in bball to return bring back the LEGENDARY NOLAN RICHARDSON!!! GO HOGS GO!

Did you have to bring the nuts out on Christmas Eve?  Hope you have thick skin.  There are a lot of us that agree with you, but to state it on here is to wake up the stinking dogs.

The_Iceman


hawgsav1

I'm for it.  Let's bring back Nolan.
Revenge is a dish best served cold. - Klingon Proverb

pick_DA_EAGLES

he does make a good point. We would get so much t.v. Time for that, that anyone of us could reruit the 5* players that are needed to reach the top.

TomasPistola

I thought Batmanfan was going to leave Jump Ball....
Quote from: Hog Momster on January 06, 2011, 09:45:30 pm
You were right.
Quote from: Breems on April 28, 2011, 05:58:14 pm
You did a great job.
Quote from: Verge on June 22, 2011, 08:44:20 am
If you have some form of mental retardation i will stop making fun of you, just want to clarify this first.

ErieHog

Quote from: TomasPistola on December 24, 2009, 08:50:00 pm
I thought Batmanfan was going to leave Jump Ball....

You can't just get rid of him that easy, Tomas.  He's.....the Batmanfan.
No cause, ever, in the history of all mankind, has produced more cold-blooded tyrants, more slaughtered innocents, and more orphans than socialism with power. It surpassed, exponentially, all other systems of production in turning out the dead. The bodies are all around us. And here is the problem: No one talks about them. No one honors them. No one does penance for them. No one has committed suicide for having been an apologist for those who did this to them. No one pays for them. No one is hunted down to account for them. It is exactly what Solzhenitsyn foresaw in The Gulag Archipelago: "No, no one would have to answer. No one would be looked into." Until that happens, there is no "after socialism."

StubbsGOhogs

Just enyoying a great evening with my wonderful girlfriend! It can't be done if its not even brought up!

TomasPistola

Quote from: ErieHog on December 24, 2009, 08:50:47 pm
You can't just get rid of him that easy, Tomas.  He's.....the Batmanfan.

I kinda picture him as Clooney Batmanfan - you know.... the lame one. 
Quote from: Hog Momster on January 06, 2011, 09:45:30 pm
You were right.
Quote from: Breems on April 28, 2011, 05:58:14 pm
You did a great job.
Quote from: Verge on June 22, 2011, 08:44:20 am
If you have some form of mental retardation i will stop making fun of you, just want to clarify this first.

TomasPistola

Quote from: StubbsGOhogs on December 24, 2009, 08:52:38 pm
Just enyoying a great evening with my wonderful girlfriend! It can't be done if its not even brought up!

Left hand or right?
Quote from: Hog Momster on January 06, 2011, 09:45:30 pm
You were right.
Quote from: Breems on April 28, 2011, 05:58:14 pm
You did a great job.
Quote from: Verge on June 22, 2011, 08:44:20 am
If you have some form of mental retardation i will stop making fun of you, just want to clarify this first.

ErieHog

No cause, ever, in the history of all mankind, has produced more cold-blooded tyrants, more slaughtered innocents, and more orphans than socialism with power. It surpassed, exponentially, all other systems of production in turning out the dead. The bodies are all around us. And here is the problem: No one talks about them. No one honors them. No one does penance for them. No one has committed suicide for having been an apologist for those who did this to them. No one pays for them. No one is hunted down to account for them. It is exactly what Solzhenitsyn foresaw in The Gulag Archipelago: "No, no one would have to answer. No one would be looked into." Until that happens, there is no "after socialism."

ge-erdone

Quote from: hawgsav1 on December 24, 2009, 08:47:35 pm
I'm for it.  Let's bring back Nolan.
If we offered him the job, again, that would be the first college offer as a D1 coach he would have received, since he left Arkansas.

 

StubbsGOhogs

lol First of all who the hell is batmanfan? Ive seen him mentioned several times! Let me assure you i am not him! back to the thread if anything we do it for the exposure and probably even pull a couple of elite players once again something we are starving for! We need national exposure he would bring it! We need excitement with the fans he would bring it! Im tired of this dog and pony show media we have! We need NATIONAL EXPOSURE! PERIOD

StubbsGOhogs

left hand or right hand? Nice coming from a guy that has 20k+ posts? LOL

ErieHog

Quote from: StubbsGOhogs on December 24, 2009, 09:02:26 pm
left hand or right hand? Nice coming from a guy that has 20k+ posts? LOL

Tomas has 7K.

We could go into great detail as to why what you've advised is not just a horrible idea,  but as it is Christmas, a little leeway for the lunatic fringe is in order.
No cause, ever, in the history of all mankind, has produced more cold-blooded tyrants, more slaughtered innocents, and more orphans than socialism with power. It surpassed, exponentially, all other systems of production in turning out the dead. The bodies are all around us. And here is the problem: No one talks about them. No one honors them. No one does penance for them. No one has committed suicide for having been an apologist for those who did this to them. No one pays for them. No one is hunted down to account for them. It is exactly what Solzhenitsyn foresaw in The Gulag Archipelago: "No, no one would have to answer. No one would be looked into." Until that happens, there is no "after socialism."

StubbsGOhogs

If its so horrible please enliten us with your thoughts on the matter? Please dont say MA he would be a long shot right now at best! No way he would take this job

thirtythree

Quote from: StubbsGOhogs on December 24, 2009, 09:10:02 pm
If its so horrible please enliten us with your thoughts on the matter? Please dont say MA he would be a long shot right now at best! No way he would take this job

He said it's Christmas.

ErieHog

Quote from: StubbsGOhogs on December 24, 2009, 09:10:02 pm
If its so horrible please enliten us with your thoughts on the matter? Please dont say MA he would be a long shot right now at best! No way he would take this job

You really have this as a serious notion?  Baffling.   A starting point of 'why not'-- and keep in mind, this is while Nolan was still nationally prominent,  and when Arkansas' reputation was still untarnished:  14-15, 20-11, 19-15, and 23-11,  with a .500 conference record and a massive *one* tournament victory.

That's the tip of the iceberg, but illustrates pretty succinctly why Nolan is not an answer.
No cause, ever, in the history of all mankind, has produced more cold-blooded tyrants, more slaughtered innocents, and more orphans than socialism with power. It surpassed, exponentially, all other systems of production in turning out the dead. The bodies are all around us. And here is the problem: No one talks about them. No one honors them. No one does penance for them. No one has committed suicide for having been an apologist for those who did this to them. No one pays for them. No one is hunted down to account for them. It is exactly what Solzhenitsyn foresaw in The Gulag Archipelago: "No, no one would have to answer. No one would be looked into." Until that happens, there is no "after socialism."

chiefsfan

Quote from: StubbsGOhogs on December 24, 2009, 09:10:02 pm
If its so horrible please enliten us with your thoughts on the matter? Please dont say MA he would be a long shot right now at best! No way he would take this job

Nolan would immediately hire his gun toting son as an assistant,   Trust me  ASU tried to hire him a couple years back.   Dont do it.  he'd play interested for a couple years and retire so his son can take the job
Honor and Integrity no longer exist in the world of college football.  It is only filled with liar's cheater's, and traitors.

StubbsGOhogs

Thats all I said 2-3 years just to get the program headed in the right direction! Correct me if im wrong and im not a fan or back him in any means but wasn't Nolans "gun toting" son an assisstant on the final four and championship teams as well as countless other tournament runs! And helped mold one of the most feared opponents anyone would face for decades? Im a die hard hog fan I just want the team I LOVE to be back to one of the nations ELITE where it belongs and us fans deserve and expect it to be?

rude1

Quote from: StubbsGOhogs on December 24, 2009, 08:58:52 pm
lol First of all who the hell is batmanfan? Ive seen him mentioned several times! Let me assure you i am not him! back to the thread if anything we do it for the exposure and probably even pull a couple of elite players once again something we are starving for! We need national exposure he would bring it! We need excitement with the fans he would bring it! Im tired of this dog and pony show media we have! We need NATIONAL EXPOSURE! PERIOD
The kids today would hardly know who Nolan Richardson is or what he has accomplished. This is just not being realistic.

ErieHog

Quote from: StubbsGOhogs on December 24, 2009, 09:52:44 pm
Thats all I said 2-3 years just to get the program headed in the right direction! Correct me if im wrong and im not a fan or back him in any means but wasn't Nolans "gun toting" son an assisstant on the final four and championship teams as well as countless other tournament runs! And helped mold one of the most feared opponents anyone would face for decades? Im a die hard hog fan I just want the team I LOVE to be back to one of the nations ELITE where it belongs and us fans deserve and expect it to be?

There is no evidence whatsoever that a coach a decade older, who coached a style that's virtually prohibited by rules now, who hated the emerging AAU system that dominates the modern recruiting environment, and who couldn't get the job done with every possible advantage then,  would somehow miraculously significantly change the fortunes of the program that *he* started on it's current downhill slide.     He certainly doesn't carry any credibility or currency with kids who were 2 years old when he last played for a national title.

This is nothing more than the classic pining for the good old days, when those days are long and permanently gone.


No cause, ever, in the history of all mankind, has produced more cold-blooded tyrants, more slaughtered innocents, and more orphans than socialism with power. It surpassed, exponentially, all other systems of production in turning out the dead. The bodies are all around us. And here is the problem: No one talks about them. No one honors them. No one does penance for them. No one has committed suicide for having been an apologist for those who did this to them. No one pays for them. No one is hunted down to account for them. It is exactly what Solzhenitsyn foresaw in The Gulag Archipelago: "No, no one would have to answer. No one would be looked into." Until that happens, there is no "after socialism."

StubbsGOhogs

If any have forgotten about him! The ESPN trucks and reporters along with other national media would quickly remind the country! ESPN would be all over it! Are you saying ESPN camping out at the UA campus wouldnt be a good thing? Wow have all of you forgotten how much coverage we got by ESPN and all national media when he was fired and how stupid we were for firing a LEGEND in the coaching circles! One thing is for sure HE COULDNT DO ANY WORSE!

 

ErieHog

Quote from: StubbsGOhogs on December 24, 2009, 10:01:45 pm
If any have forgotten about him! The ESPN trucks and reporters along with other national media would quickly remind the country! ESPN would be all over it! Are you saying ESPN camping out at the UA campus wouldnt be a good thing? Wow have all of you forgotten how much coverage we got by ESPN and all national media when he was fired and how stupid we were for firing a LEGEND in the coaching circles! One thing is for sure HE COULDNT DO ANY WORSE!

ESPN wouldn't camp out for Nolan.   Media attention follows audiences-- and the audience just isn't there.   Nolan got attention?  Not until after his teams put together 27 and 30 win seasons.    The entire process, even when he was at the top of his game, was long and arduous-- a 6 year overnight success project.

And, most importantly, yes, he could make things worse.  This is exactly the kind of hyperbole that gets programs like ours in the horrendous funks that they're in--  people looking for quick fixes.

No cause, ever, in the history of all mankind, has produced more cold-blooded tyrants, more slaughtered innocents, and more orphans than socialism with power. It surpassed, exponentially, all other systems of production in turning out the dead. The bodies are all around us. And here is the problem: No one talks about them. No one honors them. No one does penance for them. No one has committed suicide for having been an apologist for those who did this to them. No one pays for them. No one is hunted down to account for them. It is exactly what Solzhenitsyn foresaw in The Gulag Archipelago: "No, no one would have to answer. No one would be looked into." Until that happens, there is no "after socialism."

StubbsGOhogs

What do you not understand about CREDIBILITY? Nolan brings it! Not just a little either he brings a semi truck full of it! Im sorry but Pelphrey IS NOT the answer! Unless you ask the 5k fans that are showing up to once feared bud walton arena

ErieHog

Quote from: StubbsGOhogs on December 24, 2009, 10:07:28 pm
What do you not understand about CREDIBILITY? Nolan brings it! Not just a little either he brings a semi truck full of it! Im sorry but Pelphrey IS NOT the answer! Unless you ask the 5k fans that are showing up to once feared bud walton arena

What Credibility?  The man's been unable to secure a job with another collegiate program for a reason.   He's been out of college basketball in any meaningful sense for a very long time, and no-- showing a 14 year old National Championship ring doesn't open that many doors. 

Rose-colored glasses are strong.
No cause, ever, in the history of all mankind, has produced more cold-blooded tyrants, more slaughtered innocents, and more orphans than socialism with power. It surpassed, exponentially, all other systems of production in turning out the dead. The bodies are all around us. And here is the problem: No one talks about them. No one honors them. No one does penance for them. No one has committed suicide for having been an apologist for those who did this to them. No one pays for them. No one is hunted down to account for them. It is exactly what Solzhenitsyn foresaw in The Gulag Archipelago: "No, no one would have to answer. No one would be looked into." Until that happens, there is no "after socialism."

Danny J

Quote from: ErieHog on December 24, 2009, 10:09:03 pm
What Credibility?  The man's been unable to secure a job with another collegiate program for a reason.   He's been out of college basketball in any meaningful sense for a very long time, and no-- showing a 14 year old National Championship ring doesn't open that many doors. 

Rose-colored glasses are strong.
Can you help me recall what other college teams interviewed nolan after he left?

StubbsGOhogs

If Nolan would have ever REALLY gone after a good to mid level job he couldve attained one of them fairly easily! Its just common knowledge that any "top level" program these days goes after high money fairly young proven CHEATERS! lol! I always have and always will be a HUGE nolan supporter without him the program has ZERO prestigue. I know 99.9 % it will never happen! HUGE HOG FAN HERE TO!

Arkansas 47
Pirates 16

ErieHog

Quote from: headhawg7 on December 24, 2009, 10:24:49 pm
Can you help me recall what other college teams interviewed nolan after he left?

Why, that would be a whopping 'none'.  He couldn't even get his foot in the door that far, with all of his accomplishment.

I can just imagine a recruiting visit now, if he managed to get past the handlers, the would-be agents, and coaches looking for a job.

'Dude.  You're that Norman Richardson guy!'

'You've heard of my teams, then?'

'No, but my Dad says you were really good.  Did you have to stop play to get the ball out of the peach baskets?'

'Well, it's not been that long.  We're excited about building a program that wins like that again.'

'Cool Norman.  You won the entire time you were there, right, and rode off into a sunset according to my Dad.'

'Well, we won a few at the end....'

'A few?  That's less than a lot.  Sorry, my AAU coach says he has an interview at Tennessee.  Dad'll show you out.  Autograph something for him.'

No cause, ever, in the history of all mankind, has produced more cold-blooded tyrants, more slaughtered innocents, and more orphans than socialism with power. It surpassed, exponentially, all other systems of production in turning out the dead. The bodies are all around us. And here is the problem: No one talks about them. No one honors them. No one does penance for them. No one has committed suicide for having been an apologist for those who did this to them. No one pays for them. No one is hunted down to account for them. It is exactly what Solzhenitsyn foresaw in The Gulag Archipelago: "No, no one would have to answer. No one would be looked into." Until that happens, there is no "after socialism."

chiefsfan

Quote from: ErieHog on December 24, 2009, 10:28:48 pm
Why, that would be a whopping 'none'.  He couldn't even get his foot in the door that far, with all of his accomplishment.

I can just imagine a recruiting visit now, if he managed to get past the handlers, the would-be agents, and coaches looking for a job.

'Dude.  You're that Norman Richardson guy!'

'You've heard of my teams, then?'

'No, but my Dad says you were really good.  Did you have to stop play to get the ball out of the peach baskets?'

'Well, it's not been that long.  We're excited about building a program that wins like that again.'

'Cool Norman.  You won the entire time you were there, right, and rode off into a sunset according to my Dad.'

'Well, we won a few at the end....'

'A few?  That's less than a lot.  Sorry, my AAU coach says he has an interview at Tennessee.  Dad'll show you out.  Autograph something for him.'



he got an interview at ASU...  I remember talking to someone on the committee after that

Nolan came strutting in looking like he owned the place.  Said he was only interested in coaching 2 or 3 years, wanted to garner a portion from gate each game towards his personal salary and started making demands about what the school woul do after he left

We said thanks but no thanks and got John Brady hired less then a week later
Honor and Integrity no longer exist in the world of college football.  It is only filled with liar's cheater's, and traitors.

Danny J

Quote from: chiefsfan on December 24, 2009, 10:33:05 pm
he got an interview at ASU...  I remember talking to someone on the committee after that

Nolan came strutting in looking like he owned the place.  Said he was only interested in coaching 2 or 3 years, wanted to garner a portion from gate each game towards his personal salary and started making demands about what the school woul do after he left

We said thanks but no thanks and got John Brady hired less then a week later
Really? I never knew he officially interviewed anywhere. I heard some rumors texas tech and utep were interested several years ago but in an interview he said he had no interest in coaching college ball any more. Did I miss something?

ErieHog

Quote from: headhawg7 on December 24, 2009, 10:44:10 pm
Really? I never knew he officially interviewed anywhere. I heard some rumors texas tech and utep were interested several years ago but in an interview he said he had no interest in coaching college ball any more. Did I miss something?

ASU was pretty hush-hush about things before they hired Brady.   I'm not surprised by the Nolan attitude at all, though.
No cause, ever, in the history of all mankind, has produced more cold-blooded tyrants, more slaughtered innocents, and more orphans than socialism with power. It surpassed, exponentially, all other systems of production in turning out the dead. The bodies are all around us. And here is the problem: No one talks about them. No one honors them. No one does penance for them. No one has committed suicide for having been an apologist for those who did this to them. No one pays for them. No one is hunted down to account for them. It is exactly what Solzhenitsyn foresaw in The Gulag Archipelago: "No, no one would have to answer. No one would be looked into." Until that happens, there is no "after socialism."

Iwastherein1969

let me preface this by saying no one is a bigger fan of Nolan and his accomplishments than I....however, hiring Nolan at this point in time would be like going to a 20 year High School reunion and trying to make it with your 11th grade sweetheart after she's spurted out 5 kids and you've gone bald....conclusion: let's remember the way we were
The long Grey line will never fail our country.

Rebel Fan

Quote from: StubbsGOhogs on December 24, 2009, 08:38:59 pm
First time poster here but long time viewer! All this talk about who would we get if pel is let go? My answer to that is the man that built it all! Now that Broyles is out as ad I think he would do it! Im a believer that the only way to get the program BACK is with the man that created it ALL! Bring him in for 2-3 years it brings the program back instant credibility something that is non existant right now and has been since he left! He still has the fire and would at minimum get us in the right direction! After that i think we would be able to hire a proven coach! Because right now we are just as irrelevant as ualr or a st. hate to say it but its the truth! I bleed cardinal and white and want our dominance in bball to return bring back the LEGENDARY NOLAN RICHARDSON!!! GO HOGS GO!

Nolan never took the time to walk across the street and recruit Ronnie Brewer. How soon you forget.
JUST IMAGINE IF THAT WOULD HAVE BEEN A BLACK PLAYER MIKE LEACH LOCKED IN THE SHED.  JESSE JACKSON, OPRAH WINFREY, AL SHARPTON YOUR JETS ARE FUELED AND READY FOR DEPARTURE TO LUBBOCK.

chiefsfan

Quote from: headhawg7 on December 24, 2009, 10:44:10 pm
Really? I never knew he officially interviewed anywhere. I heard some rumors texas tech and utep were interested several years ago but in an interview he said he had no interest in coaching college ball any more. Did I miss something?

He was spotted on Campus during one of the known interview days.  alot of the ASU fans at the time didnt have much better to do so several students were outside doing some spying

it was very hush hush.  ASU never really leaks who it interviews.  we knew John Brady was interviewed because of a friend of our biggest Donor who had flown him in.   We knew he had been hired because one of our posters got an invite to a private meet and greet with Brady the day before the press conference

but without media hounding us all day its alot easier to hide our interview candidates.  Did the same thing in the baseball search last year.  no mention of any interviews but 5 days in we were announcing Tommy Raffo as head coach
Honor and Integrity no longer exist in the world of college football.  It is only filled with liar's cheater's, and traitors.

TomasPistola

Nolan got the most attention when he was telling us he didn't come over on the ship. When you sue your former employer you don't get another shot at said employer. Nolan was a good coach for a while - but he quit after 95-96 and the program suffered. This thread is a rehash of a million other threads the OP could have easily posted in.

Sorry Erie - I tried to be nice :)
Quote from: Hog Momster on January 06, 2011, 09:45:30 pm
You were right.
Quote from: Breems on April 28, 2011, 05:58:14 pm
You did a great job.
Quote from: Verge on June 22, 2011, 08:44:20 am
If you have some form of mental retardation i will stop making fun of you, just want to clarify this first.

Wild Bill Hog

The guy that got it all started, and established the Hog program, was Eddie Sutton.  OP needs to read a whole lot more and should have found another topic to start his posting career with.  There are several hundred threads on all this already.

1highhog

Yeah, let's hire back a man that did not coach the last few years he was on the payroll, and not only that, but called the state a bunch of rednecks, and then sued the University, in effect, suing us because it's a public institution.  Yeah, good choice.  How soon people forget.

bvillepig

Nolan was not talking to me . I am from the state and am not a redneck.

I am sure he was talking to some and I did not have a problem it .  Pretty sure he was talking to Wally and JR Starr .

Since John White and Frank Broyles represented the U of A I don't think he could have sued them personally.

Won't ever happen but I would love it although I am sure he would never get the support of the red necks.
Just having fun Merry Christmas.

Hoggies

Who would you hire Erie? Nolan was and is a racist piece of crap but I think you as well as me and many others here think hiring a black coach is the way to go. Whom can we hire.

GuvHog

Quote from: bvillepig on December 25, 2009, 11:07:30 am
Nolan was not talking to me . I am from the state and am not a redneck.

I am sure he was talking to some and I did not have a problem it .  Pretty sure he was talking to Wally and JR Starr .

Since John White and Frank Broyles represented the U of A I don't think he could have sued them personally.

Won't ever happen but I would love it although I am sure he would never get the support of the red necks.
Just having fun Merry Christmas.

It doesn't matter WHO he was talking to, he should never have made those comments. They were nothing
but pure 100% racial hatred and were totally out of line. One doesn't say to his boss on statewide television
"If you don't like the way I do my job then you give me my money and I'll leave" and keep his job. He deserved
to be fired.
Bleeding Razorback Red Since Birth!!!

ErieHog

Quote from: Hoggies on December 25, 2009, 11:17:30 am
Who would you hire Erie? Nolan was and is a racist piece of crap but I think you as well as me and many others here think hiring a black coach is the way to go. Whom can we hire.

I'd wait at least a year before making any coaching decision for starters.     If you don't give a guy 3 years of his players, you aren't going to be very attractive, especially when your program already has some serious lumps that make it a bad job.

The year also gives you distance and time to secure funding for any buyouts necessary, as well as building up a war chest with which to bid on the next coach.  The Razorback Foundation could use some of that breathing space pretty badly right now.

As for the next coach, race should never be a hiring criteria, either as a favorable or unfavorable qualification.  We'd probably be best suited following the standard model for a coach search-- hire a firm, look at their recommendations, and determine what style of program we aim to be from there.

No cause, ever, in the history of all mankind, has produced more cold-blooded tyrants, more slaughtered innocents, and more orphans than socialism with power. It surpassed, exponentially, all other systems of production in turning out the dead. The bodies are all around us. And here is the problem: No one talks about them. No one honors them. No one does penance for them. No one has committed suicide for having been an apologist for those who did this to them. No one pays for them. No one is hunted down to account for them. It is exactly what Solzhenitsyn foresaw in The Gulag Archipelago: "No, no one would have to answer. No one would be looked into." Until that happens, there is no "after socialism."

SLC

Quote from: ErieHog on December 24, 2009, 08:40:37 pm
Drinking while alone on Christmas is a sign of alcoholism.

It's quite sad isn't it.
I need your truthful reply - lie, I will know it... and death will be no respite.

bvillepig

I do agree the U of A had no choice by then. It was totally handled wrong. Botched by a back stabbing John White and crew. I wish Nolan would have been more diplomatic but under the circumstances it was not going to happen.

Had Nolan been diplomatic there still would have been a back door effort to get him out .

I still would love to see him roaming the sideline for about 3-5 years. At his worst he is still better than anything we have had.

ge-erdone

December 25, 2009, 07:24:28 pm #45 Last Edit: December 25, 2009, 09:48:52 pm by ge-erdone
Quote from: GUVHOG on December 25, 2009, 11:19:00 am
It doesn't matter WHO he was talking to, he should never have made those comments. They were nothing
but pure 100% racial hatred and were totally out of line. One doesn't say to his boss on statewide nationwide television "If you don't like the way I do my job then you give me my money and I'll leave" and keep his job. He deserved
to be fired.

Fixed that for you--it was on CBS national tv.

porknbeans

I loved the job Nolan did with the program in his successful quest to win a national championship at Arkansas. In my few personal interactions with him he was warm and I enjoyed being around him. That being said, I agree with other posters that you can't tell your boss(es) on national tv, 'If you want this job, pay me my money and you can have it', then ask for a do-over after the fact when they oblige you.

The worst thing he did was effectively burn the program to the ground with his lawsuit. And after he lost his initial lawsuit, the filing of an unsuccessful appeal just restarted the fire. IMO, after that he was damaged goods and because of that he never received real consideration for a high profile college coaching job. From a purely business standpoint, what CEO would hire someone to lead a major business division after that person had sued their employer (effectively) twice after being terminated and having his contract paid off? No matter the upside, the reward isn't worth the risk.

No man knows what's in Nolan's heart except Nolan. But how could someone who professes to truly love the program aggressively pursue litigation against the University, especially with the knowledge that doing would do immense damage to the program and the fans of the program? The fans are not Frank Broyles or John White, yet they all suffered because of the litigation? One conclusion to be drawn is this collateral damage was acceptable to Nolan.

There is some part of me that would like to see Nolan on the Razorback sideline again, if only because I remember the thrill of watching other teams wilt under our uptempo, frenetic, pace. The possibility of seeing lighting strike twice is appealing. But then I think about how the house was burned down, reality sets in, and I realize that Nolan's time at Arkansas is best left as memories of the good times.
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mykidsdad

Quote from: Rebel Fan on December 24, 2009, 11:17:20 pm
Nolan never took the time to walk across the street and recruit Ronnie Brewer. How soon you forget.

Because he had already signed a better player than Ronnie at the same position. How soon do you forget?

GuvHog

Quote from: porknbeans on December 25, 2009, 11:44:04 pm
I loved the job Nolan did with the program in his successful quest to win a national championship at Arkansas. In my few personal interactions with him he was warm and I enjoyed being around him. That being said, I agree with other posters that you can't tell your boss(es) on national tv, 'If you want this job, pay me my money and you can have it', then ask for a do-over after the fact when they oblige you.

The worst thing he did was effectively burn the program to the ground with his lawsuit. And after he lost his initial lawsuit, the filing of an unsuccessful appeal just restarted the fire. IMO, after that he was damaged goods and because of that he never received real consideration for a high profile college coaching job. From a purely business standpoint, what CEO would hire someone to lead a major business division after that person had sued their employer (effectively) twice after being terminated and having his contract paid off? No matter the upside, the reward isn't worth the risk.

No man knows what's in Nolan's heart except Nolan. But how could someone who professes to truly love the program aggressively pursue litigation against the University, especially with the knowledge that doing would do immense damage to the program and the fans of the program? The fans are not Frank Broyles or John White, yet they all suffered because of the litigation? One conclusion to be drawn is this collateral damage was acceptable to Nolan.

There is some part of me that would like to see Nolan on the Razorback sideline again, if only because I remember the thrill of watching other teams wilt under our uptempo, frenetic, pace. The possibility of seeing lighting strike twice is appealing. But then I think about how the house was burned down, reality sets in, and I realize that Nolan's time at Arkansas is best left as memories of the good times.

Best post in this thread!! +1!
Bleeding Razorback Red Since Birth!!!

Albert Einswine

Quote from: ErieHog on December 24, 2009, 08:50:47 pm
You can't just get rid of him that easy, Tomas.  He's.....the Batmanfan.


Here's a great video of "batmanfan".   Great music and action!  Batmanfan is the awsomeness!

http://www.hulu.com/watch/11934/saturday-night-live-snl-digital-short-hero-song
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