The`Mystery of Chris Daniels

[whosiskid]

Does anyone have a clue as to why we haven't pursued Chris Daniels?

247 has him with a grade of 94. He has good size for a DT and some schools with great academics are offering him, so it can't be worry over his academics.

Although he lives in Texas, he was born and raised in Arkansas and in interviews said he still thinks of himself as an Arkansas. He visits his relatives in Arkansas whenever possible, and has spent summers with his grandparents. He says he still follows the Razorbacks. And at times it has sounded like all we need to do to get a commitment out of him is to offer him.

Yet we don't seem to be recruiting him at all, while TCU, Texas, Texas A&M, and a host of other schools (he has a great offer sheet) are pursuing him like mad.

The ONLY thing that I can think of it that we may have offered for him to come to the elite weekend and he was unable to come. In the past Bielema really backs off players who do not make key events without a really great reason. But I could be wrong. We backed off Jalen Barnett last year. We may have a really great reason we are not going after Daniels, but I'd sure like to know what it is. I will add, we don't seem to be hurting at DT, but still, you want to add the best players whenever you can, and Daniels seems really great.

FWIW, Otis Kirk picked Daniels on 3/1/05 to go to Arkansas, but I have asked him several times on 247 what the deal is with us and Daniels, and he hasn't answered. I'm concluding, almost, that he just doesn't want to say what he currently knows.

Sure would like to get Daniels.

[Peter Porker]

We backed off of Barnett because Pittman saw him play in person and was not impressed. We've backed off on other kids because of character issues. No telling with Daniels.

[pccmizuno24]

blows my mind why the kid hasnt been offered. I have known his dad for over 25 years and he is hurt the hogs havent offered. said they not really even recruiting him.

[JackTNHogfan]

I'm sure they have their reasons.  Trust in the coaches ability to gauge talent and work the recruiting process, they know what they are doing.

[TeedupHigh]

Does anyone have a clue as to why we haven't pursued Chris Daniels?

247 has him with a grade of 94. He has good size for a DT and some schools with great academics are offering him, so it can't be worry over his academics.

Although he lives in Texas, he was born and raised in Arkansas and in interviews said he still thinks of himself as an Arkansas. He visits his relatives in Arkansas whenever possible, and has spent summers with his grandparents. He says he still follows the Razorbacks. And at times it has sounded like all we need to do to get a commitment out of him is to offer him.

Yet we don't seem to be recruiting him at all, while TCU, Texas, Texas A&M, and a host of other schools (he has a great offer sheet) are pursuing him like mad.

The ONLY thing that I can think of it that we may have offered for him to come to the elite weekend and he was unable to come. In the past Bielema really backs off players who do not make key events without a really great reason. But I could be wrong. We backed off Jalen Barnett last year. We may have a really great reason we are not going after Daniels, but I'd sure like to know what it is. I will add, we don't seem to be hurting at DT, but still, you want to add the best players whenever you can, and Daniels seems really great.

FWIW, Otis Kirk picked Daniels on 3/1/05 to go to Arkansas, but I have asked him several times on 247 what the deal is with us and Daniels, and he hasn't answered. I'm concluding, almost, that he just doesn't want to say what he currently knows.

Sure would like to get Daniels.

Could it be a Coach's decision?  I trust CBB and Pittman when it comes to recruits, they SURLY have the teams best interest at all times, let'em do the coaching and recruiting!

[Hoggy Bear]

https://twitter.com/ryanbartow/status/577831219804512256

@ryanbartow Four-star Chris Daniels says #TCU is recruiting him the hardest & wants an #Arkansas offer.

[whosiskid]

We backed off of Barnett because Pittman saw him play in person and was not impressed. We've backed off on other kids because of character issues. No telling with Daniels.

I knew that about Barnett, but that doesn't illumine the situation with Daniels. It does seem like someone has decided that for some reason we aren't going hard after Daniels.

I never said I didn't trust the coaches, but saying that you do doesn't get you any closer to answering the question of WHY he hasn't been offered. Ohio State and Michigan have offered. We didn't offer (or at least haven't to date) despite only two months ago Daniels talking as if he would commit if offered.

Why didn't we pursue him? That's all I'm asking. I don't distrust the coaches. I'm sure the coaches have their reasons. I'm just curious as to what those reasons are.

[Huds_HawgTide]

How bout this...someone email E.K. Franks and explain the situation...and tell him we would love to have this kid is there any reason why we havent pursued him

[PaintballHog]

First I've heard of this. Very, very odd. Would hate to lose a chance at a great talent.

[redeye]

I knew that about Barnett, but that doesn't illumine the situation with Daniels. It does seem like someone has decided that for some reason we aren't going hard after Daniels.

I never said I didn't trust the coaches, but saying that you do doesn't get you any closer to answering the question of WHY he hasn't been offered. Ohio State and Michigan have offered. We didn't offer (or at least haven't to date) despite only two months ago Daniels talking as if he would commit if offered.

Why didn't we pursue him? That's all I'm asking. I don't distrust the coaches. I'm sure the coaches have their reasons. I'm just curious as to what those reasons are.

Well, we don't exactly throw out tons of uncommitable offers, like some schools do, so there's that.

[Huds_HawgTide]

He is number 111 in the ESPN300

[Choctaw Hog]

I knew that about Barnett, but that doesn't illumine the situation with Daniels. It does seem like someone has decided that for some reason we aren't going hard after Daniels.

I never said I didn't trust the coaches, but saying that you do doesn't get you any closer to answering the question of WHY he hasn't been offered. Ohio State and Michigan have offered. We didn't offer (or at least haven't to date) despite only two months ago Daniels talking as if he would commit if offered.

Why didn't we pursue him? That's all I'm asking. I don't distrust the coaches. I'm sure the coaches have their reasons. I'm just curious as to what those reasons are.

It's unlikely that we will ever know, if indeed we aren't recruiting him, and that's the way it should be.  Arkansas, like all other colleges, can't offer everybody. 

[Inhogswetrust]

blows my mind why the kid hasnt been offered. I have known his dad for over 25 years and he is hurt the hogs havent offered. said they not really even recruiting him.

It blows MY mind why fans on a message board get their mind blown over questions of WHY someone does or doesn't get an offer.

[bjeffersonhog]

Perhaps we only plan on taking 2 DT in this class and Guidry and Capps were higher on the board.  If we are only going to take 18-22 kids this year I don't think we can take 3 DT.

[COCHISE]

Perhaps we only plan on taking 2 DT in this class and Guidry and Capps were higher on the board.  If we are only going to take 18-22 kids this year I don't think we can take 3 DT.

I think Daniels would fall in to the "you make room for him" category. And we are recruiting him apparently. The recruiting services show that Coaches Smith and Segrest are his recruiters. And speaking of Daniels, what's the story on Tate? No offer to him either.

[PaintballHog]

It blows MY mind why fans on a message board get their mind blown over questions of WHY someone does or doesn't get an offer.

explain?

[samurai]

Perhaps we only plan on taking 2 DT in this class and Guidry and Capps were higher on the board.  If we are only going to take 18-22 kids this year I don't think we can take 3 DT.

If we get Agim that makes 3 higher than him on the board probably getting a bit crowded on the interior D-line

[PaintballHog]

If we get Agim that makes 3 higher than him on the board probably getting a bit crowded on the interior D-line

Agim is a DE. And I think Daniels is athletic enough to play both, like Ledbetter.

[logand02]

Has RD weighed in?

[ricepig]

It's like a draft board, recruits have their slot/ranking. I'm sure there is a reason the recruiting is going like it is, and I'm also sure we won't hear why, lol.

[Dominicanhog]

If we get Agim that makes 3 higher than him on the board probably getting a bit crowded on the interior D-line

and as the poster said, with only taking 18-22 that might be the extent of the DL recruiting... still need extra bodies at RB, WR, LB and OL.... not many spots left when you start filling in the needs for depth etc...

[hawg1221]

I'm a big fan of his great grandpa Jack.

[Arthur pigby sellers.]

Yeah Jack wore #7 right?

[TeufelHog]

Well, if he REALLY wants to be a Hog and gets no offer, he can always walk-on.  Sounds like he's set with offers from elsewhere if it's a monetary issue.

Boils down to how bad he wants to be a Hog?  Enough to walk-on and earn the scholarship?  Big decision.

[texas tush hog]

If we get Agim that makes 3 higher than him on the board probably getting a bit crowded on the interior D-line

Agim is no better than 50-50 at this point. He is not really an Arkansas boy and is leaning to OU and a few Texas schools at this point so don't get your hopes too high.

[ricepig]

Agim is no better than 50-50 at this point. He is not really an Arkansas boy and is leaning to OU and a few Texas schools at this point so don't get your hopes too high.

I don't believe he's said where he's leaning.

[Darren DeLoach]

Agim is no better than 50-50 at this point. He is not really an Arkansas boy and is leaning to OU and a few Texas schools at this point so don't get your hopes too high.

I rarely chime in on the whims of teenage boys, but I believe this young man will be a Razorback.

[Huds_HawgTide]

Well, if he REALLY wants to be a Hog and gets no offer, he can always walk-on.  Sounds like he's set with offers from elsewhere if it's a monetary issue.

Boils down to how bad he wants to be a Hog?  Enough to walk-on and earn the scholarship?  Big decision.

an ESPN300 top 150 for that matter doesnt just walk on

[Foshodo]

Hadnt heard of the kid... yeah. ya make room for this guy... I don't really care if we get Agim if we get 3 other 4stars

[Pig in the Pokey]

https://twitter.com/ryanbartow/status/577831219804512256

@ryanbartow Four-star Chris Daniels says #TCU is recruiting him the hardest & wants an #Arkansas offer.

hmmmm. Kid is definitely heavily interested.

[Pig in the Pokey]

I'm a big fan of his great grandpa Jack.

a scholar and a Gentleman.

[Pig in the Pokey]

Hadnt heard of the kid... yeah. ya make room for this guy... I don't really care if we get Agim if we get 3 other 4stars

agim is a 5*  , so... I agree that you don't pass on chris daniels.

[jgphillips3]

We have all seen 4 & 5 star talent that don't live up to the hype or won't fit the system.  Barnett from last year comes to mind.  Physical attributes get you in the door but there are so many intangibles that separate one kid from another.  For his  assumed position, explosiveness, footwork, shedding blocks, arriving violently at the point of attack, can he play multiple techniques and so forth.  My guess is since we are limited to a supposed 22, we may very well be recruiting this kid but telling him we are waiting on a "no" from someone else to make a commitable offer.  Hard to tell yet.  Let see what unfolds toward fall when more names start to commit.

[WooPig90]

Hadnt heard of the kid... yeah. ya make room for this guy... I don't really care if we get Agim if we get 3 other 4stars

Must not really care if we win either..getting Agim would be huge on the field and also getting other recruits

[Wildhog]

This staff doesn't internet recruit.  They make their own evaluations.

One look at our DL should make you trust them.

[PaintballHog]

This staff doesn't internet recruit.  They make their own evaluations.

One look at our DL should make you trust them.

There are going to be alot of good coaching staffs that will be wrong about Daniels if ours are right about him.

A&M, Baylor, Michigan, OSU, OU, Miami, OM, USC..

[Trey1981]

We have all seen 4 & 5 star talent that don't live up to the hype or won't fit the system.  Barnett from last year comes to mind.  Physical attributes get you in the door but there are so many intangibles that separate one kid from another.  For his  assumed position, explosiveness, footwork, shedding blocks, arriving violently at the point of attack, can he play multiple techniques and so forth.  My guess is since we are limited to a supposed 22, we may very well be recruiting this kid but telling him we are waiting on a "no" from someone else to make a commitable offer.  Hard to tell yet.  Let see what unfolds toward fall when more names start to commit.

Curious as to why you would imply that Barnett is someone who doesn't live up to the hype. Maybe our coaching staff didn't believe that he fit the system or that his talent didn't live up to star rating but it's far too early to write him off. He hasn't even stepped onto the field to play a collegiate game yet.

[Wildhog]

There are going to be alot of good coaching staffs that will be wrong about Daniels if ours are right about him.

A&M, Baylor, Michigan, OSU, OU, Miami, OM, USC..

Be that as it may.

[neahogfan180]

I'm gonna preface my next statement by saying that I am a believer in this staff and have high hopes for this team and our future.

The thought however, that anyone should not question or blindly follow a staff or HC that is 2-14 in conference play is laughable.

[intelligence]

I'm gonna preface my next statement by saying that I am a believer in this staff and have high hopes for this team and our future.

The thought however, that anyone should not question or blindly follow a staff or HC that is 2-14 in conference play is laughable.

preach

[ricepig]

I'm gonna preface my next statement by saying that I am a believer in this staff and have high hopes for this team and our future.

The thought however, that anyone should not question or blindly follow a staff or HC that is 2-14 in conference play is laughable.

It's their team to coach, they'll decide who they want. If they fail to do enough winning, then they will suffer their own fate.

[idochog]

CBB get paid well to make these decisions.

[Exit Pursued by a Boar]

Curious as to why you would imply that Barnett is someone who doesn't live up to the hype. Maybe our coaching staff didn't believe that he fit the system or that his talent didn't live up to star rating but it's far too early to write him off. He hasn't even stepped onto the field to play a collegiate game yet.

This.  Coaches made a judgment that he wouldn't live up to the hype, but he hasn't had a chance, yet, to show what he can do, or not do, on a college football team.

EFBAB

[Wildhog]

It's their team to coach, they'll decide who they want. If they fail to do enough winning, then they will suffer their own fate.

[Peter Porker]

Curious as to why you would imply that Barnett is someone who doesn't live up to the hype. Maybe our coaching staff didn't believe that he fit the system or that his talent didn't live up to star rating but it's far too early to write him off. He hasn't even stepped onto the field to play a collegiate game yet.

Because CSP went and watched him play and wasn't impressed.

[TeufelHog]

an ESPN300 top 150 for that matter doesnt just walk on

He does if he wants it bad enough.  The heart wants what it wants sometimes.  You don't know how people will make decisions.

[samurai]

There are going to be alot of good coaching staffs that will be wrong about Daniels if ours are right about him.

A&M, Baylor, Michigan, OSU, OU, Miami, OM, USC..

Ever heard of DGB

[Choctaw Hog]

I'm gonna preface my next statement by saying that I am a believer in this staff and have high hopes for this team and our future.

The thought however, that anyone should not question or blindly follow a staff or HC that is 2-14 in conference play is laughable.

I don't remember anybody stating that they are blindly following the coaching staff. If they have then please provide the post.  But, based on LIMITED KNOWLEDGE, EXPERIENCE, AND EXPERTISE, how can any message board poster question how this staff recruits and the reasons behind it? 

Isn't that like telling your heart surgeon how to perform your surgery even through you flunked the only biology course you ever took? 

[The_Boot_stops_here]

Ever heard of DGB

no one was wrong about his talent

[The_Boot_stops_here]

I don't remember anybody stating that they are blindly following the coaching staff. If they have then please provide the post.  But, based on LIMITED KNOWLEDGE EXPERIENCE, AND EXPERTISE, how can any message board poster question how this staff recruits and the reasons behind it? 

Isn't that like telling your heart surgeon how to perform your surgery even through you flunked the only biology course you ever took? 

If you don't want to read other's opinions about everything Hogs then you're in the wrong place...nothing wrong with questioning the coaching staff, ever....in the end, our opinion doesn't matter (on most things) but it's certainly ok to give it