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Sho Nuff

Worst officiated game I have ever witnessed, and I can remember the SWC days.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=og5SO4XUodk

tannerstahl

yeah....sigh...i'll never forget how angry i was watching that game
i love the hogs....so very very much

 

Großer Kriegschwein

Quote from: Sho Nuff on October 17, 2017, 10:05:22 am
Worst officiated game I have ever witnessed, and I can remember the SWC days.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=og5SO4XUodk
Don't even need to click.

Florida game.

The only one I was able to watch on mid-tour leave from Afghanistan due to a bye-week.

I was actually physically ill after that game. Not in the FCJ sense, but actually nauseous.
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Wildhog

That's the angriest I've ever been because of a football game.
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EastexHawg

The one against LSU in Tiger Stadium later that year was just as bad.  We were up 30-27 with seconds to go, LSU was out of timeouts, and we tackled their ball carrier five feet inbounds with an official standing a few feet behind the play looking directly down the sideline.  He signaled to stop the clock because the runner, according to him, made it out of bounds.  That allowed LSU to get their field goal team on the field, tie the game, and win it in overtime.

The clock should have expired.  We won the real game, but a DEFINITELY crooked official gave LSU a chance to tie it.  He is nothing more than a cheat and a thief.  That wasn't a blown call, it was deliberate.  There is no way any unbiased person, official or otherwise, could have looked at that play with the angle he had and thought the LSU player got to the sideline before he was down.  It's maybe the most blatantly dishonest call I have ever seen.

That 2009 Hog team should have won 10 games.  SEC officials protected two more highly ranked teams and definitely took one of them away from us...LSU...and almost certainly the Florida game as well.

Wildhog

Quote from: EastexHawg on October 17, 2017, 10:20:34 am
The one against LSU in Tiger Stadium later that year was just as bad.  We were up 30-27 with seconds to go, LSU was out of timeouts, and we tackled their ball carrier five feet inbounds with an official standing a few feet behind the play looking directly down the sideline.  He signaled to stop the clock because the runner, according to him, made it out of bounds.  That allowed LSU to get their field goal team on the field, tie the game, and win it in overtime.

The clock should have expired.  We won the real game, but a DEFINITELY crooked official gave LSU a chance to tie it.  He is nothing more than a cheat and a thief.  That wasn't a blown call, it was deliberate.  There is no way any unbiased person, official or otherwise, could have looked at that play with the angle he had and thought the LSU player got to the sideline before he was down.  It's maybe the most blatantly dishonest call I have ever seen.

That 2009 Hog team should have won 10 games.  SEC officials protected two more highly ranked teams and definitely took one of them away from us...LSU...and almost certainly the Florida game as well.

That was really bad, too.  But that Florida game was just call after call after call.

I wish I knew where to find that gif of the hand of God reaching down and moving the first down marker to where Tebow fell, like two full yards short of the first down.
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redleg

This call angers me more than the 2009 Florida game! This call cost Arkansas the 1982 SWC championship! It also was a direct reason the NCAA changed the penalty on pass interference from a spot foul to a 15 yarder.  >:(


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4pL2iwLfybw
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Tejano Jawg

Quote from: redleg on October 17, 2017, 10:25:39 am
This call angers me more than the 2009 Florida game! This call cost Arkansas the 1982 SWC championship! It also was a direct reason the NCAA changed the penalty on pass interference from a spot foul to a 15 yarder.  >:(


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4pL2iwLfybw

We didn't know the SMU situation then—the deep level of criminal activity, going all the way to the State Capitol—so it just looked like a terrible call from a Texas-leaning referee (who bought the stupid acting job from the SMU receiver.) But there is NO doubt whatsoever—in my mind—that the refs were in the system somehow. Given what SMU was able to pull off, this wouldn't have been too hard. Now, they were probably instructed to just give things a little 'slant,' not be so obvious as this play. As bad as that call was, it's BEYOND simply bad judgement.

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onebadrubi

This game is really when I started to see BP had some serious passion.  I was at the U of A at this time, had many friends on the team, had some friends I grew up with that had been given a chance to walk on and a couple on scholarship at this time.  BP was losing his team around this time actually because of the drill sergeant type practices, but it was said among many players that when he took after the officials on these instances (as we later to see for instance in the south carolina game) all the locker room learned he really was trying to get them in position to be better. 

I also learned at this time that there is really some protected people and teams in this entire scope of the NCAA.  Before I was naive and thought these things just happen, but it's become to obvious how this system works with instances like this. 

It's completely disgusting.

RME

Quote from: Großer Kriegschwein on October 17, 2017, 10:15:45 am
Don't even need to click.

Florida game.


Took the words out of my mouth.

Also, didn't see this one in the clip, but wasn't this called defensive pass interference as well? Andru Stewart, wasn't it? Total armbar by Riley Cooper and coming through Stewart's back sure is defensive PI. Geez.


Ex-Trumpet

Marc Curles...still incompetent after all these years...
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Waldron_Hog

Thanks!

Now I'm all pissed off again.

 

The NewEra

Marc Curles name comes up often when you talk about blatantly bad officiating in Arkansas games.  And, it's never against our opponents.

OneTuskOverTheLine™

At least we finally got a coach ** enough that the SEC doesn't have to cheat to hold us down. Jeff's contract may be paid by the SEC commission, who really knows..?

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Torqued pork

Florida and Bama were ranked #1 and #2. No way in Hades was the SEC going to let Arkansas take any luster from the SEC CG.

DeltaBoy

Quote from: Ex-Trumpet on October 17, 2017, 11:18:23 am
Marc Curles...still incompetent after all these years...

Still on my List of most hated officals.
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Corkscrew Johnson

Followed closely behind by the Auburn game the following year....two laughable replay reviews. 

Wildhog

Quote from: Corkscrew Johnson on October 17, 2017, 12:10:56 pm
Followed closely behind by the Auburn game the following year....two laughable replay reviews. 

Yeah, that one sucked, too.
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ke2743

Back when Arkansas was exciting to watch.  Ehhh.. Glory days.

Razor1997

On the rare occasion that we're actually really good, the SEC will cheat to screw us over and make sure we never win anything.

Lucky for the SEC, they don't need to cheat us to make us losers anymore, thanks to Bert.

Potosihog

Quote from: EastexHawg on October 17, 2017, 10:20:34 am
The one against LSU in Tiger Stadium later that year was just as bad.  We were up 30-27 with seconds to go, LSU was out of timeouts, and we tackled their ball carrier five feet inbounds with an official standing a few feet behind the play looking directly down the sideline.  He signaled to stop the clock because the runner, according to him, made it out of bounds.  That allowed LSU to get their field goal team on the field, tie the game, and win it in overtime.

The clock should have expired.  We won the real game, but a DEFINITELY crooked official gave LSU a chance to tie it.  He is nothing more than a cheat and a thief.  That wasn't a blown call, it was deliberate.  There is no way any unbiased person, official or otherwise, could have looked at that play with the angle he had and thought the LSU player got to the sideline before he was down.  It's maybe the most blatantly dishonest call I have ever seen.

That 2009 Hog team should have won 10 games.  SEC officials protected two more highly ranked teams and definitely took one of them away from us...LSU...and almost certainly the Florida game as well.

I couldn't remember this one which is unusual because I almost always remember the bad calls.  So I looked it up.  Not sure if we are looking at the same game but the 2009 game against LSU that went into OT didn't have a play like that.  If you look it up on YouTube and go to the 1:17 mark you will see the play where he runs out of bounds with 9 seconds left.  That set up the field goal to send it into OT.

Am I thinking of the wrong year or was there another play?

East Clintwood

I miss the old days when it took active participation by the officials for us to lose games.

Now the other team beats us all by themselves.
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Pigsknuckles

As a result of that game, SEC  game officials are now driven to, and from DWRRS with hot police escort. Can't speak for any other venues, but this practice was begun in Fayetteville at the next home game.
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Razorback7281

Quote from: Potosihog on October 17, 2017, 01:08:56 pm
I couldn't remember this one which is unusual because I almost always remember the bad calls.  So I looked it up.  Not sure if we are looking at the same game but the 2009 game against LSU that went into OT didn't have a play like that.  If you look it up on YouTube and go to the 1:17 mark you will see the play where he runs out of bounds with 9 seconds left.  That set up the field goal to send it into OT.

Am I thinking of the wrong year or was there another play?
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phadedhawg

This Florida game was the worst officiated game in recent memory.  I don't think I was this hot about a bad call since Todd Day was called for a charge, on a turn around shot at the buzzer to beat Alabama on the road ages ago. 

I refuse to watch highlights of it.  I have a doctor appointment later today and don't want to get my blood pressure up.

The Boar War

Quote from: Potosihog on October 17, 2017, 01:08:56 pm
I couldn't remember this one which is unusual because I almost always remember the bad calls.  So I looked it up.  Not sure if we are looking at the same game but the 2009 game against LSU that went into OT didn't have a play like that.  If you look it up on YouTube and go to the 1:17 mark you will see the play where he runs out of bounds with 9 seconds left.  That set up the field goal to send it into OT.

Am I thinking of the wrong year or was there another play?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L7hhn8HvvZw

This is the play.  It's with 25 seconds left and no time outs at the 40 yard line.  It's not as close as the earlier poster said (they ran several plays after that before they brought the fg unit on) but it would have put them in a worse position.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0t0eKl5dTQQ

Even the LSU announcers agree that it was a bad call.

GTOWNHOG

Over the years, there have been many bad calls that have gone against Arkansas.  SEC referees seem to make calls that directly influence the outcome of the game.  Rarely do you see an unranked or lower ranked SEC team get a call that allows them to win games.  There is too much money involved.  The traditional "upper echelon" SEC teams seem to be the ones that benefit.
Good luck to ALL of our Razorback teams!!

Sho Nuff

What is the one call that sticks out to you as the one we benefited the most from?  Bad calls go in our favor every now and then.

DeltaBoy

I still can not understand why Marc Curles is still an SEC offical.
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hogsanity

Quote from: DeltaBoy on October 17, 2017, 02:27:47 pm
I still can not understand why Marc Curles is still an SEC offical.

Because they cant find anyone better?

Seriously, did you know the average age of a HS football official in the US is 53. There just are not many people getting into officiating and when they do they tend to be older when they start, like me. So by the time a guy like me would have enough experience to become a p5 official, I would be too old to do the job.
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Pigsknuckles

And don't forget this gem.

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Panthog

Preston Watts. 1971 Liberty Bowl.  I still hate Tennessee because of that game.

DeltaBoy

My Great Grandfather verbally darned Preston Watts to Hell after that game.
If the South should lose, it means that the history of the heroic struggle will be written by the enemy, that our youth will be trained by Northern school teachers, will be impressed by all of the influences of history and education to regard our gallant dead as traitors and our maimed veterans as fit subjects for derision.
-- Major General Patrick Cleburne
The Confederacy had no better soldiers
than the Arkansans--fearless, brave, and oftentimes courageous beyond
prudence. Dickart History of Kershaws Brigade.

Tejano Jawg

Quote from: RyanMallettsEgo on October 17, 2017, 11:17:45 am
Took the words out of my mouth.

Also, didn't see this one in the clip, but wasn't this called defensive pass interference as well? Andru Stewart, wasn't it? Total armbar by Riley Cooper and coming through Stewart's back sure is defensive PI. Geez.



This is the Florida point I was going to come back to...I have a copy of this exact shot. (In fact, I have quite a file of these over the years, many from Texas games.) We had been called for a pass interference before this, same endzone I think...it was a bad call, and everyone said so. Even amidst all the flags on us, Petrino said this no-call on Riley Cooper was the most significant one of the bunch. Getting that interception at the goal line would have changed the game.

We played Florida so well that day. Our D was inspired, we sacked Timmy 5 times I think. And he didn't have that many all year. The refs just had to find a way to keep giving them another chance, over and over. Sure, eventually they'd make a play with that many extra cracks at it.

This game didn't matter for us with regard to any 'championship' being on the line. But still, this sour memory has stayed with me for sure. Just for outplaying the Gators in the Swamp, the idea of beating Tebow, and beating that piece-of-S Urban Meyer.
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Quote from: redleg on October 17, 2017, 10:25:39 am
This call angers me more than the 2009 Florida game! This call cost Arkansas the 1982 SWC championship! It also was a direct reason the NCAA changed the penalty on pass interference from a spot foul to a 15 yarder.  >:(


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4pL2iwLfybw
I was at that game.  I have always regarded pass interference similar to the block/charge call in basketball.  Very difficult and really a judgment call but that one was terrible.  We had a good team that year and of course played like crap against Texas in the season finale.  But we did beat the hated UF team in the Bluebonnet bowl. 

Potosihog

Quote from: Razorback7281 on October 17, 2017, 01:45:04 pm


Ok so this happened earlier in the series and led to them having more time on the clock than they should.

Boardon Hamsay

Quote from: DeltaBoy on October 17, 2017, 03:16:23 pm
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I could buy that.
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Quote from: Tejano Jawg on October 17, 2017, 04:14:04 pm
This game didn't matter for us with regard to any 'championship' being on the line. But still, this sour memory has stayed with me for sure. Just for outplaying the Gators in the Swamp, the idea of beating Tebow, and beating that piece-of-S Urban Meyer.

Just tack on the first Sophomore to win a Heisman to that.
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JaketheSnake

Quote from: Sho Nuff on October 17, 2017, 02:22:17 pm
What is the one call that sticks out to you as the one we benefited the most from?  Bad calls go in our favor every now and then.
Mond "stepping out" this year was a pretty bad call that went in our favor.

FATHAWG08

Unbievable Bad Calls!! Probably one the best defensive Games Hogs have played since they have been in the SEC. We sacked Tebow like 6 times if I remember correctly.
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Boardon Hamsay

Is there like a tear off, daily calendar of "dire days in Razorback history" or "start your day with Razorback related anger" that prompted this thread? Just really curious.
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Quote from: Pigsknuckles on October 17, 2017, 02:52:39 pm
And don't forget this gem.



They really wanted Tebow in the BCSNCG that year. Like real real bad.
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Quote from: Sho Nuff on October 17, 2017, 10:05:22 am
Worst officiated game I have ever witnessed, and I can remember the SWC days.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=og5SO4XUodk
A close second is the game at Auburn with the Cam Newton coronation.  Screwed on that one too.

Mo_Better_Hogs

Quote from: Tejano Jawg on October 17, 2017, 04:14:04 pm
This is the Florida point I was going to come back to...I have a copy of this exact shot. (In fact, I have quite a file of these over the years, many from Texas games.) We had been called for a pass interference before this, same endzone I think...it was a bad call, and everyone said so. Even amidst all the flags on us, Petrino said this no-call on Riley Cooper was the most significant one of the bunch. Getting that interception at the goal line would have changed the game.

We played Florida so well that day. Our D was inspired, we sacked Timmy 5 times I think. And he didn't have that many all year. The refs just had to find a way to keep giving them another chance, over and over. Sure, eventually they'd make a play with that many extra cracks at it.

This game didn't matter for us with regard to any 'championship' being on the line. But still, this sour memory has stayed with me for sure. Just for outplaying the Gators in the Swamp, the idea of beating Tebow, and beating that piece-of-S Urban Meyer.


This is what I think of, and thought about right after the game. We played a great game, so the bad calls mattered. It wasn't just the typical SEC officiating that we expect at any time. The poor calls were truly game changers, and each one was more costly than the one before. Up until they ended our shot.

We were 1-2 in the SEC going into the Swamp game. Something I didn't see mentioned, Florida was NO. 1. They were the defending National Champions. What a gigantic boost that would have been for our program.

As Delta asked, how is Marc Curles still working? You know, if the SEC looked at the film and determined who besides Curles contributed to that mess, and kicked them out of the league FOREVER--or banned them from D-1 football FOREVER--that might just end that type of biased officiating.

From Tusk Till Dawn

Me and some buddies literally drove all night to go to that game.  Tebow mania was in full swing and we thought we were going to come away with the win and then that happened... 

Hollywood_HOGan45

Ah the days we didn't absolutely suck.

HardCore

Quote from: Sho Nuff on October 17, 2017, 10:05:22 am
Worst officiated game I have ever witnessed, and I can remember the SWC days.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=og5SO4XUodk

Florida was #1, Alabama was #2......and they played each other the next week.  I still have no doubt in my mind that was all set up.  Have a 1 vs. 2 game was a ratings dream.  They called more than that in this game.  There was a bogus unsportsmanlike conduct foul, another bogus pass interference call on our guy against Cooper in the endzone, which should have been Offensive PI on Cooper.  FL's OL was holding the entire game, but they hardly got called, whereas we did every time we got close to the endzone.  I was livid about 80% of the way through that fourth quarter, just built up over the entire game.  The fans around us at the Swamp actually cheered when we left the stadium.  We just raised the fingers and kept on walking.  They knew what was going on.....or, maybe they didn't, they are not the brightest fan base I have ever been around.  It was a fourth quarter set up to protect that matchup the following week, I will go to my grave convinced of that.
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I'm really looking forward to today's anniversary of something terrible in Razorback history.

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