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Pork Twain

Quote from: Danny J on February 24, 2015, 03:09:22 pm
It would be a hard decision for you or I and we are just fans. Remember he is 20 and is actually living something we could only have dreamed about....playing for the Hogs. I wouldn't blame him for leaving just pointing out that I could see him staying.
Yes and he is about to get the "promise" of a lot of money thrown at him.  I agree that I could see him staying as well but neither is a given.
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Cresthog

Quote from: The_Bionic_Pig on February 24, 2015, 07:24:55 pm
To answer the OP's question Melvin Frazier (SF) assuming this guard heavy team has a transfer occur after the tourney.

Durham?

 

72756Hog

Quote from: psooie on February 24, 2015, 07:26:45 pm
I wonder what kind of insurance policy he could get. I would bet portis at age 35 after a long NBA career and big money would greatly regret missing his last 2 years in college. The huge risk is would something happen in those last 2 years to end the NBA career
The NCAA offers a policy up to $5 million in the event he gets injured and can't play anymore. Private insurers do the same thing with the player paying about $10,000 per $1 million in coverage. There's other policies where they evaluate where you should be drafted and then paying the difference if you fall down the draft because of injury.
Never argue with stupid people, they'll just drag you down to their level and win by experience.

redleg

Madden and Harris are seniors, Portis likely leaving early.
Qualls should come back.
Unless something has changed, isn't Manny Watkins technically a walk-on. Do children of UA employees get discounts on tuition, etc?
If that is the case, Arkansas currently only has 12 scholarship players, which means Anderson can sign 4 in the 2015 Class.

As for the 2016 Class, I know there are two in-state players with offers: 5* SG Malik Monk (6'4" 180 lbs.) of Bentonville, and PF Mitchell Smith (6'10" 210 lbs.) of Van Buren.
With five seniors on next year's team, Anderson will have lots of scholies to offer, and hopefully bring in a Top 10 class!
:razorback:
If it ain't broke, fix it till it is.

HOGINTENNESSEE

Quote from: The_Bionic_Pig on February 24, 2015, 07:24:55 pm
To answer the OP's question Melvin Frazier (SF) assuming this guard heavy team has a transfer occur after the tourney.

I hope Babb doesn't transfer. Kid has great potential

The_Iceman

Quote from: HOGINTENNESSEE on February 26, 2015, 11:31:12 am
I hope Babb doesn't transfer. Kid has great potential

I agree. All he is missing is confidence. He is smooth, has good handles, good height at 6'5", and a pretty good shot.

PorkRinds

Quote from: redleg on February 26, 2015, 11:14:16 am
Madden and Harris are seniors, Portis likely leaving early.
Qualls should come back.
Unless something has changed, isn't Manny Watkins technically a walk-on. Do children of UA employees get discounts on tuition, etc?
If that is the case, Arkansas currently only has 12 scholarship players, which means Anderson can sign 4 in the 2015 Class.

As for the 2016 Class, I know there are two in-state players with offers: 5* SG Malik Monk (6'4" 180 lbs.) of Bentonville, and PF Mitchell Smith (6'10" 210 lbs.) of Van Buren.
With five seniors on next year's team, Anderson will have lots of scholies to offer, and hopefully bring in a Top 10 class!
:razorback:

Your calculations are off.  The only two sure to be gone are the two seniors.  Watkins is already a walk on, so you can't count him as a scholarship not used.  Someone else is already taking his place scholarship wise.  If portis leaves we have three, but we can't really sign someone until he makes it official.  I'm sure he will tell MA as soon as he knows what he's going to do, but we can't assume.  Unless someone transfers, Portis leaving would leave us one more spot, as the first two are taken by Kapita and Whitt.  Unless I'm mistaken.

ricepig

Quote from: redleg on February 26, 2015, 11:14:16 am
Madden and Harris are seniors, Portis likely leaving early.
Qualls should come back.
Unless something has changed, isn't Manny Watkins technically a walk-on. Do children of UA employees get discounts on tuition, etc?
If that is the case, Arkansas currently only has 12 scholarship players, which means Anderson can sign 4 in the 2015 Class.

As for the 2016 Class, I know there are two in-state players with offers: 5* SG Malik Monk (6'4" 180 lbs.) of Bentonville, and PF Mitchell Smith (6'10" 210 lbs.) of Van Buren.
With five seniors on next year's team, Anderson will have lots of scholies to offer, and hopefully bring in a Top 10 class!
:razorback:

Hannah is on scholarship redshirting.

The_Iceman

Quote from: PorkRinds on February 26, 2015, 11:39:48 am
Your calculations are off.  The only two sure to be gone are the two seniors.  Watkins is already a walk on, so you can't count him as a scholarship not used.  Someone else is already taking his place scholarship wise.  If portis leaves we have three, but we can't really sign someone until he makes it official.  I'm sure he will tell MA as soon as he knows what he's going to do, but we can't assume.  Unless someone transfers, Portis leaving would leave us one more spot, as the first two are taken by Kapita and Whitt.  Unless I'm mistaken.

2015 Roster
1) Bell
2) Williams
3) Miles
4) Durham
5) Qualls
6) Portis
7) Kingsley
8 ) Hannahs
9) Thompson
10) Beard
11) Babb
12) Whitt
13) Kapita
walkon Watkins

So if no one leaves, we have all 13 spots filled.

PorkRinds

Quote from: The_Iceman on February 26, 2015, 11:42:58 am
2015 Roster
1) Bell
2) Williams
3) Miles
4) Durham
5) Qualls
6) Portis
7) Kingsley
8 ) Hannahs
9) Thompson
10) Beard
11) Babb
12) Whitt
13) Kapita
walkon Watkins

So if no one leaves, we have all 13 spots filled.

Right.  Just not sure where he got the 4 spots from. 

WooPig90


mhuff

Quote from: The_Iceman on February 26, 2015, 11:42:58 am
2015 Roster
1) Bell
2) Williams
3) Miles
4) Durham
5) Qualls
6) Portis
7) Kingsley
8 ) Hannahs
9) Thompson
10) Beard
11) Babb
12) Whitt
13) Kapita
walkon Watkins

So if no one leaves, we have all 13 spots filled.

Ice, we need a SF and another Big. I see some moving day scenarios occurring.

Hogimus Prime

Quote from: mhuff on February 26, 2015, 04:13:17 pm
Ice, we need a SF and another Big. I see some moving day scenarios occurring.

Who do you think is moving?

 

mhuff

Quote from: Hogimus Prime on February 26, 2015, 06:05:49 pm
Who do you think is moving?

I don't like to state names. It is a possibility every year that someone leaves. Next year's recruiting class is already going to be huge. I am sure that this year and next will have some jucos to help stagger the classes.

Hogimus Prime

Quote from: mhuff on February 26, 2015, 06:39:20 pm
I don't like to state names. It is a possibility every year that someone leaves. Next year's recruiting class is already going to be huge. I am sure that this year and next will have some jucos to help stagger the classes.

I just hope it's none of this year's freshmen

mhuff

Quote from: Hogimus Prime on February 26, 2015, 07:13:23 pm
I just hope it's none of this year's freshmen

If you are going to grow to fruition, you have to prune the branches.

Hogimus Prime

Quote from: mhuff on February 26, 2015, 07:42:14 pm
If you are going to grow to fruition, you have to prune the branches.

I know.  Out of the three one is contributing and the other two can next year

TomBigBeeHog

Very unlikely anyone is requested to leave. Dee Wagner got two years before he moved on.
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mhuff

Quote from: Hogimus Prime on February 26, 2015, 07:13:23 pm
I just hope it's none of this year's freshmen

We will know before signing period whether anyone is leaving for whatever reasons.

Hogimus Prime

Quote from: mhuff on February 27, 2015, 06:30:09 pm
We will know before signing period whether anyone is leaving for whatever reasons.

True

The_Bionic_Pig

Quote from: Hogimus Prime on February 26, 2015, 06:05:49 pm
Who do you think is moving?

I would guess a Sophomore coming off the bench not getting much PT (scenario no particular players in mind)
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Swinesong1

Quote from: The_Bionic_Pig on February 28, 2015, 09:05:38 am
I would guess a Sophomore coming off the bench not getting much PT (scenario no particular players in mind)
Kingsley and Portis are the only sophomores.

TomBigBeeHog

Quote from: intelligence on February 24, 2015, 06:02:04 pm
just imagine:

beard
whitt
qualls
kapita
portis



Can't imagine kapita starting and kingsley on the bench.
I spent most of my life drankin', gamblin', and chasing women, the rest I just wasted.

 

MemphisBossHog

I thought I saw where Dick Davenport (RD) was talking one day about this guy from Colorado--De'Ron Davis

http://espn.go.com/college-sports/basketball/recruiting/player/_/id/170390/deron-davis

6-8, 230lbs.  He could be that power forward Mike needs to take up some space down low.  Looks like some good programs are in on him as well.

mav1HOGS

Davis from Denver is a HIGH4* if not 5*.He has been to Mike's All star camp as freshman and soph . Supposedly Hogs led till last fall with Louisville and tOSU jumping to no 1 and 1a. He's in Monk's class only a Jr. Strong chance if Hogs make big run in tournament we return to favorite again. He's a top 10-15 national player. If he and Monk inked with Hogs in 2016 ...LOOK OUT.

The_Iceman

Quote from: mav1HOGS on March 01, 2015, 08:14:23 pm
Davis from Denver is a HIGH4* if not 5*.He has been to Mike's All star camp as freshman and soph . Supposedly Hogs led till last fall with Louisville and tOSU jumping to no 1 and 1a. He's in Monk's class only a Jr. Strong chance if Hogs make big run in tournament we return to favorite again. He's a top 10-15 national player. If he and Monk inked with Hogs in 2016 ...LOOK OUT.

More like Top 30 player, but still, would be a huge land for us. DeRon Davis and Ted Kapita would be two nice 6'8" 240lb athletic post players with some skills. Definitely the type of interior play Mike needs.

Hogimus Prime

Quote from: The_Iceman on March 02, 2015, 08:51:59 am
More like Top 30 player, but still, would be a huge land for us. DeRon Davis and Ted Kapita would be two nice 6'8" 240lb athletic post players with some skills. Definitely the type of interior play Mike needs.

And if MA can land Mitchell Smith too the frontcourt woul be great.

RazorAg

Quote from: The_Iceman on March 02, 2015, 08:51:59 am
More like Top 30 player, but still, would be a huge land for us. DeRon Davis and Ted Kapita would be two nice 6'8" 240lb athletic post players with some skills. Definitely the type of interior play Mike needs.

Yeah, and Indiana and Arizona are the teams that he's mentioned most, not Louisville and Ohio State.  His coach says we are one of the more consistent recruiters of him; however, De'Ron hasn't mentioned us in more than a year in several interviews.  Perhaps we can make up ground.  Lot of time left.

The_Iceman

Quote from: RazorAg on March 02, 2015, 12:55:41 pm
Yeah, and Indiana and Arizona are the teams that he's mentioned most, not Louisville and Ohio State.  His coach says we are one of the more consistent recruiters of him; however, De'Ron hasn't mentioned us in more than a year in several interviews.  Perhaps we can make up ground.  Lot of time left.

Our success this year is sure to renew his interest in us. Especially with Bobby's success.

HOGINTENNESSEE

Quote from: RazorAg on March 02, 2015, 12:55:41 pm
Yeah, and Indiana and Arizona are the teams that he's mentioned most, not Louisville and Ohio State.  His coach says we are one of the more consistent recruiters of him; however, De'Ron hasn't mentioned us in more than a year in several interviews.  Perhaps we can make up ground.  Lot of time left.

He said we are in his top 5 in Early Feb. of this year.

Now top 5 is a long way from getting a commit but it's better than not being in it.

RazorAg

Quote from: HOGINTENNESSEE on March 02, 2015, 01:02:41 pm
He said we are in his top 5 in Early Feb. of this year.

Now top 5 is a long way from getting a commit but it's better than not being in it.

Can you point me to that report/article, please?

HOGINTENNESSEE


RazorAg

Quote from: HOGINTENNESSEE on March 02, 2015, 03:23:47 pm
Well I said top 5 because I read this below. But after reading RD tidbit I looks like top 8 is more accurate (second link)

http://www.arkansasfight.com/2015/2/11/8020991/4-pf-deron-davis-has-arkansas-in-his-top-five

http://www.wholehogsports.com/news/2015/feb/11/wednesday-recruiting-ti/

My point remains. He hasn't publicly and directly mentioned us in his top schools list in over a year. He gave quotes last week. Listed 6 schools and we weren't in there.

HOGINTENNESSEE

Quote from: RazorAg on March 02, 2015, 03:26:59 pm
My point remains. He hasn't publicly and directly mentioned us in his top schools list in over a year. He gave quotes last week. Listed 6 schools and we weren't in there.

Texting with RD isn't public acknowledgment? Maybe I am missing what you are looking for.

hawgsmellgud

Quote from: HOGINTENNESSEE on March 02, 2015, 04:02:47 pm
Texting with RD isn't public acknowledgment? Maybe I am missing what you are looking for.

Why must you be right? The guy knows more about BBall recruiting that anyone, and may know more than RD because he only follows BBall. Good lord, he asked you to quote where he said top 5, you couldn't. Top 8 means "yeah I like Coach A, but I ain't going to AR". Like RazorAg said things may change, but in the past year with a tape recorder in his face he has not said "I like the Hogs".
"I've never been a numbers guy," Mallett said. "If you play the game for yourself, don't play. I don't want you on the team. There's one goal we've got here. If you're not trying to reach that goal, don't come to Arkansas."

HOGINTENNESSEE

Quote from: hawgsmellgud on March 02, 2015, 05:00:19 pm
Why must you be right? The guy knows more about BBall recruiting that anyone, and may know more than RD because he only follows BBall. Good lord, he asked you to quote where he said top 5, you couldn't. Top 8 means "yeah I like Coach A, but I ain't going to AR". Like RazorAg said things may change, but in the past year with a tape recorder in his face he has not said "I like the Hogs".

I read a headline that said top 5. The actual article had 8 schools listed. I assumed the other was correct and didn't actually count the schools listed. Which I tried to explain.

But my question still remains. He communicated with RD about Arkansas. I consider that public acknowledgement.

Could he have just been throwing Arkansas a bone because he knows RD covers the Hogs? Absolutely. But that doesn't discount the fact it happened IMO.

-Blu

Quote from: HOGINTENNESSEE on March 02, 2015, 05:10:50 pm
I read a headline that said top 5. The actual article had 8 schools listed. I assumed the other was correct and didn't actually count the schools listed. Which I tried to explain.

But my question still remains. He communicated with RD about Arkansas. I consider that public acknowledgement.

Could he have just been throwing Arkansas a bone because he knows RD covers the Hogs? Absolutely. But that doesn't discount the fact it happened IMO.

Here's his most recent interview on the Hog Call.

http://hogsportsradio.com/2015/02/19/hog-call-deron-davis-interview/

He addressed the whole "top 5" deal.  He said he hasn't announced a top 5.  Just named some teams that were recruiting him the hardest.  From everything I've read and heard lately about him, it seems like Indiana is the team to beat for him.  And I know there's a lot of guys that just throw opinions out there, like they are facts, but RazorAG actually follows everything pretty closely and gives good information, so if he's saying we're behind in the race for him, it's probably accurate.

HOGINTENNESSEE

Quote from: -Blu on March 02, 2015, 05:30:11 pm
Here's his most recent interview on the Hog Call.

http://hogsportsradio.com/2015/02/19/hog-call-deron-davis-interview/

He addressed the whole "top 5" deal.  He said he hasn't announced a top 5.  Just named some teams that were recruiting him the hardest.  From everything I've read and heard lately about him, it seems like Indiana is the team to beat for him.  And I know there's a lot of guys that just throw opinions out there, like they are facts, but RazorAG actually follows everything pretty closely and gives good information, so if he's saying we're behind in the race for him, it's probably accurate.

+1 great find

-Blu

Quote from: RazorAg on March 02, 2015, 03:26:59 pm
My point remains. He hasn't publicly and directly mentioned us in his top schools list in over a year. He gave quotes last week. Listed 6 schools and we weren't in there.

You think he cooled on us, or maybe the staff started putting more focus on other guys?  A thought that I had is with the emergence of Mitchell Smith, we may be focusing more on him, he actually seems better equipped to play this style than Davis does.  You look at that 2016 roster, and we'll have Kingsley, Thompson, Kapita, and possibly Smith.  Mike's never been a guy that's had a ton of "big men".  And all those guys I named can play the 4 or 5 spot.

Hogimus Prime

Quote from: -Blu on March 02, 2015, 05:37:52 pm
You think he cooled on us, or maybe the staff started putting more focus on other guys?  A thought that I had is with the emergence of Mitchell Smith, we may be focusing more on him, he actually seems better equipped to play this style than Davis does.  You look at that 2016 roster, and we'll have Kingsley, Thompson, Kapita, and possibly Smith.  Mike's never been a guy that's had a ton of "big men".  And all those guys I named can play the 4 or 5 spot.

Ar Mizzou MA had four to five guys at 6'9" that rotated at the 4/5.  At UAB he'd have big and a couple wing forwards in the froncourt.  I'd like to think MA would take Davis and Smith in 2016 class if he could. 

ErieHog

Quote from: The_Bionic_Pig on February 21, 2015, 01:23:42 pm
50/50 Portis leaves
70/30 Qualls stays

(My opinion)

I'd put it more like  98/2 for Portis' departure and 70-30 for Qualls departure to play pro abroad.

I'm not hopeful at all, and see no reason to be for either of them.
No cause, ever, in the history of all mankind, has produced more cold-blooded tyrants, more slaughtered innocents, and more orphans than socialism with power. It surpassed, exponentially, all other systems of production in turning out the dead. The bodies are all around us. And here is the problem: No one talks about them. No one honors them. No one does penance for them. No one has committed suicide for having been an apologist for those who did this to them. No one pays for them. No one is hunted down to account for them. It is exactly what Solzhenitsyn foresaw in The Gulag Archipelago: "No, no one would have to answer. No one would be looked into." Until that happens, there is no "after socialism."

-Blu

Quote from: ErieHog on March 02, 2015, 05:55:57 pm
I'd put it more like  98/2 for Portis' departure and 70-30 for Qualls departure to play pro abroad.

I'm not hopeful at all, and see no reason to be for either of them.

Where you getting your info from?  Both Dudley and Otis have been saying both are planning on staying, and I know Dudley asked the staff, and he just said this maybe a couple of weeks ago.  And I understand the Portis leaving concerns, he may well could leave he's projected as a first round pick, I think Bionics 50/50 chance is accurate.... but Qualls?  He's not on any draft boards and he's never said or hinted that he's planning on leaving, so I'm not getting the 70-30 for him.  This isn't like BJ and Marshawn, when everybody knew they were leaving, they let it be known.

ErieHog

Quote from: -Blu on March 02, 2015, 07:08:50 pm
Where you getting your info from?  Both Dudley and Otis have been saying both are planning on staying, and I know Dudley asked the staff, and he just said this maybe a couple of weeks ago.  And I understand the Portis leaving concerns, he may well could leave he's projected as a first round pick, I think Bionics 50/50 chance is accurate.... but Qualls?  He's not on any draft boards and he's never said or hinted that he's planning on leaving, so I'm not getting the 70-30 for him.  This isn't like BJ and Marshawn, when everybody knew they were leaving, they let it be known.

Friends of the people, and friends of one of the families.   Qualls won't be going to the NBA, he'll be going to play pro abroad.

Really-- don't get your hopes up on either of these guys staying.    It'll mean a bitter late spring, if you do.
No cause, ever, in the history of all mankind, has produced more cold-blooded tyrants, more slaughtered innocents, and more orphans than socialism with power. It surpassed, exponentially, all other systems of production in turning out the dead. The bodies are all around us. And here is the problem: No one talks about them. No one honors them. No one does penance for them. No one has committed suicide for having been an apologist for those who did this to them. No one pays for them. No one is hunted down to account for them. It is exactly what Solzhenitsyn foresaw in The Gulag Archipelago: "No, no one would have to answer. No one would be looked into." Until that happens, there is no "after socialism."

-Blu

Quote from: ErieHog on March 02, 2015, 07:19:50 pm
Friends of the people, and friends of one of the families.   Qualls won't be going to the NBA, he'll be going to play pro abroad.

Really-- don't get your hopes up on either of these guys staying.    It'll mean a bitter late spring, if you do.

Ah, the old friends of friends sources.  Those are always reliable.  Thanks for info, but  I'll go with the guys that's actually around the team and staff, and get paid to know this information rather than "friends".  I've always wanted to meet those friends that are representatives of players who feel comfortable enough to share their info for them.  Doesn't sound like very good friends to me.


ErieHog

Quote from: -Blu on March 02, 2015, 07:46:11 pm
Ah, the old friends of friends sources.  Those are always reliable.  Thanks for info, but  I'll go with the guys that's actually around the team and staff, and get paid to know this information rather than "friends".  I've always wanted to meet those friends that are representatives of players who feel comfortable enough to share their info for them.  Doesn't sound like very good friends to me.


I think you are really reading into the 'reliable sources'  the ones who put the best spin on it;  if you go across the spectrum of sports media, they're not nearly so optimistic.     

No cause, ever, in the history of all mankind, has produced more cold-blooded tyrants, more slaughtered innocents, and more orphans than socialism with power. It surpassed, exponentially, all other systems of production in turning out the dead. The bodies are all around us. And here is the problem: No one talks about them. No one honors them. No one does penance for them. No one has committed suicide for having been an apologist for those who did this to them. No one pays for them. No one is hunted down to account for them. It is exactly what Solzhenitsyn foresaw in The Gulag Archipelago: "No, no one would have to answer. No one would be looked into." Until that happens, there is no "after socialism."

-Blu

Quote from: ErieHog on March 02, 2015, 08:41:20 pm
I think you are really reading into the 'reliable sources'  the ones who put the best spin on it;  if you go across the spectrum of sports media, they're not nearly so optimistic.   

I'm not saying either of those guys are right either.  However, the "sources" they get their information from is actually confirmed.  We know for a fact they have access and talk to the staff and talk to them on a regular basis.  And to be honest I don't think Portis or Qualls even know what they are doing yet.  My guess is they'll discuss things at the end of the season with family/staff and make a decision from there.  If they knew what they were doing and been telling all these "friends" it would have leaked and everyone would know what they were doing and their wouldn't be any questions (example BJ Young and Marshawn Powell). 

And another reason I don't take that friend of a friend thing serious, is because just a few days ago, on a pay board, a guy was claiming he was a friend of a friend and Portis was staying all 4 years because his mom wanted him to get his degree.  But, your saying your friends are saying he's gone for sure... so who's telling the truth here?  Same thing with the Kevaughn Allen situation, I've heard people say he was 100% hog and they got that straight from friends at NLR, yet he's still committed to Florida.

ErieHog

Quote from: -Blu on March 02, 2015, 09:36:55 pm
I'm not saying either of those guys are right either.  However, the "sources" they get their information from is actually confirmed.  We know for a fact they have access and talk to the staff and talk to them on a regular basis.  And to be honest I don't think Portis or Qualls even know what they are doing yet.  My guess is they'll discuss things at the end of the season with family/staff and make a decision from there.  If they knew what they were doing and been telling all these "friends" it would have leaked and everyone would know what they were doing and their wouldn't be any questions (example BJ Young and Marshawn Powell). 

And another reason I don't take that friend of a friend thing serious, is because just a few days ago, on a pay board, a guy was claiming he was a friend of a friend and Portis was staying all 4 years because his mom wanted him to get his degree.  But, your saying your friends are saying he's gone for sure... so who's telling the truth here?  Same thing with the Kevaughn Allen situation, I've heard people say he was 100% hog and they got that straight from friends at NLR, yet he's still committed to Florida.

I can't speak for anyone else's sources.  That's their business, and the reliability thereof,  is inevitably borne out, in either direction.

That said,  everything I hear, from people I consider to not just be informed, but reliably so, indicates Portis is gone.     Everything related to Portis' situation, reaffirms the logic of the departure as well.    Now, you can say the right things to media, and put it down the road, say 'we're just focused on South Carolina',  but these guys do have some idea already of what they are doing-- how widely they spread it, will vary from kid to kid.

Plenty of people with the same level of access to the program are nowhere near as optimistic, and are public with their pessimism-- yet, somehow the lone voice that seems to be making the assertion that it is plausible they are to return is more credible?

There's absolutely no reason to expect these kids to stay, beyond hope.  None.  Should they?  Qualls, sure, but not Portis.   Time will bear things out, for those patient enough to wait-- but, barring injury, I  wouldn't expect either to suit up after March, as Razorbacks--  even if, as in Qualls' case, it would be a very good thing for him.

No cause, ever, in the history of all mankind, has produced more cold-blooded tyrants, more slaughtered innocents, and more orphans than socialism with power. It surpassed, exponentially, all other systems of production in turning out the dead. The bodies are all around us. And here is the problem: No one talks about them. No one honors them. No one does penance for them. No one has committed suicide for having been an apologist for those who did this to them. No one pays for them. No one is hunted down to account for them. It is exactly what Solzhenitsyn foresaw in The Gulag Archipelago: "No, no one would have to answer. No one would be looked into." Until that happens, there is no "after socialism."

-Blu

Quote from: ErieHog on March 02, 2015, 09:43:43 pm
I can't speak for anyone else's sources.  That's their business, and the reliability thereof,  is inevitably borne out, in either direction.

That said,  everything I hear, from people I consider to not just be informed, but reliably so, indicates Portis is gone.     Everything related to Portis' situation, reaffirms the logic of the departure as well.    Now, you can say the right things to media, and put it down the road, say 'we're just focused on South Carolina',  but these guys do have some idea already of what they are doing-- how widely they spread it, will vary from kid to kid.

Plenty of people with the same level of access to the program are nowhere near as optimistic, and are public with their pessimism-- yet, somehow the lone voice that seems to be making the assertion that it is plausible they are to return is more credible?

There's absolutely no reason to expect these kids to stay, beyond hope.  None.  Should they?  Qualls, sure, but not Portis.   Time will bear things out, for those patient enough to wait-- but, barring injury, I  wouldn't expect either to suit up after March, as Razorbacks--  even if, as in Qualls' case, it would be a very good thing for him.

If the sources are so credible, why not name them?  Their obviously close enough to Portis and Qualls to tell their future plans to all their friends on message boards and you've been comfortable enough to trust them to relay their information and stand firmly behind it, so it shouldn't be a problem to give names, so there's some accountability behind it.  I just find it funny everybody has "friends" with no names that like to tell everyone's business.

ErieHog

Quote from: -Blu on March 02, 2015, 09:59:31 pm
If the sources are so credible, why not name them?  Their obviously close enough to Portis and Qualls to tell their future plans to all their friends on message boards and you've been comfortable enough to trust them to relay their information and stand firmly behind it, so it shouldn't be a problem to give names, so there's some accountability behind it.  I just find it funny everybody has "friends" with no names that like to tell everyone's business.

Because it inherently would out them, and thereby terminate their utility and willingness to be sources, quite obviously.   There's a reason why no one names names, inside the media or outside of it.
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