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[RedRock]

Yesterday I heard Dustin McDaniel talking about our legislature moving to have an Arkansas / AState matchup.  Could this really happen?

[SteveInArk]

Yesterday I heard Dustin McDaniel talking about our legislature moving to have an Arkansas / AState matchup.  Could this really happen?

Well, Dustin is a J'bo boy...  i would think the legislature could make that happen if they mustered the votes... holding the purse strings for state institutions is pretty persuasive. 

[Dr Swineglove]

It's been attempted many times over the years, and the reaction has always been the same.   We have reps of our own.

[TheRealShark]

Yesterday I heard Dustin McDaniel talking about our legislature moving to have an Arkansas / AState matchup.  Could this really happen?

Don't wanna get into politics here, but that is among the dumbest things legislators could waste their time on.  I'd rather they be out chasing hookers than try to dictate football match-ups.

[ErieHog]

It's the token talk of a former Jonesboro rep.   Take it for exactly what it is worth--  nothing beyond pandering.

[codeHog]

peons will always want a handout.

[Lard]

Yesterday I heard Dustin McDaniel talking about our legislature moving to have an Arkansas / AState matchup.  Could this really happen?

Dustin McDaniel is a major D-bag and if the people of Arkansas elect him as governor after Bebee is done then I will have to leave the state.

[CDBHawg]

Politics has NOTHING to do with FOOTBALL.  GOV'T GOV'T GOV't......seems to be the answer to everything these days. Let there be sovereignty in College Football at least.       

[idochog]

peons will always want a handout.

Yep, thats nothing more than welfare for Astate. 

[MM-gohogs]

really, doesn't the legislature have better things to do?

[Tomhog™]

Dumb.  This is what my tax money (actually Jonesboro folks) pays for?

[Brand X Hog Fan]

The state guv'ment should stick to ruining our schools and raising our taxes and stay the hell out of college football. I am not opposed to a game with ASU if that is what the AD's of each school decide. If the guv'ment mandates it, then we should all boycott the game and mail the money we'd have paid for a ticket straight to the Razorback Foundation

[TeedupHigh]

AU & ASU!!!! This has got to be the dumbest move that could happen!  What is wrong with us sending thousands of dollars every year to Louisiana and all of the other "little" podunk teams we play each year.  DAMN!  It's not like the Great State of Arkansas needs to keep any of the dollars since we are more than rolling in them!  I have never saw the reason other state's team play each other, that is so F*&ked up. Alabama, Cally, O & O state, Mississippi, DAMN, They are a lot of state schools that play each.........How stupid can they be.

[CDBHawg]

AU & ASU!!!! This has got to be the dumbest move that could happen!  What is wrong with us sending thousands of dollars every year to Louisiana and all of the other "little" podunk teams we play each year.  DAMN!  It's not like the Great State of Arkansas needs to keep any of the dollars since we are more than rolling in them!  I have never saw the reason other state's team play each other, that is so F*&ked up. Alabama, Cally, O & O state, Mississippi, DAMN, They are a lot of state schools that play each.........How stupid can they be.

It's not the UA vs. ASU matchup people dislike. It's the fact that Ark. Legislature may demand it.  That's absurd.

[Bacons Rebellion]

AU & ASU!!!! This has got to be the dumbest move that could happen!  What is wrong with us sending thousands of dollars every year to Louisiana and all of the other "little" podunk teams we play each year.  DAMN!  It's not like the Great State of Arkansas needs to keep any of the dollars since we are more than rolling in them!  I have never saw the reason other state's team play each other, that is so F*&ked up. Alabama, Cally, O & O state, Mississippi, DAMN, They are a lot of state schools that play each.........How stupid can they be.

We don't lose any money by playing Louisiana schools. Arkansas State goes and plays an SEC school and makes it back. It's a wash.

U. of Arkansas would lose money by playing Arkansas State because ASU would want more (in a share of the gate) than the current rent a wins.

[moehog]

It's not the UA vs. ASU matchup people dislike. It's the fact that Ark. Legislature may demand it.  That's absurd.

I wish they did play every year but I agree that it is not the job of state legislatures to be involved in scheduling football games. I know the old argument that ASU has all to gain and nothing to lose but I think it would be fun.

[The_Iceman]

if they forced Arkansas to do this, I would run up the score everytime we played Arkansas St. Embarrass them so bad that they never want to do it again.

[98hogs]

I'm a Hog Fan and I want the U of A to play them and stomp them so bad that it shuts them up for good!

[phoggy]

I don't think UA wants this. They have the market cornered as the flagship team of the state. Playing in state teams is only advertisement for the competition.

That being said, I would love to see it. Not politically induced though.

[TeedupHigh]

Paying ASU more than the others is absurd!  Again I say we don't need the money now do we?  I guess if we played them they would stop playing any other SEC team..........DAMN.  Hard to find the argument in any of this logic.  I am a fan of the ARKANSAS RAZORBACKS first and foremost then any other team in the state, just because Mr. Frank Broyles didn't want to lose the upper hand (was he really afraid by the way) all we have to do is just be the HOGS and that will take care of it's self.  Some of the greatest rivals in the sport are in state but we don't need any of this crap.  If the state is not careful the "people" may demand it.  It's all about the dollars, why we went to the SEC.

[Golf53]

This as been tried many, many times.  A rep named Jerry Bookout from the wasteland of NE Arkansas tried it several times.  Never got beyond the talking stages.

What the Farmers fail to realize is they think way more of themselves than does the rest of the state.  I know guys who are ASU grads who would leave J'boro on home game weekends and come to LR to see the Hogs play.

I know the Wolves have finally agreed to play UCA which is where they need to start.  Maybe try UAPB next and then see if they can progress to the Hogs.  That way all that money can be kept in-state and help UCA and UAPB recruit against ASU.    

[FANONTHEHILL]

If the powers that be thnk we need a U of A vs A-State game, I say give LR the a Hog vs. ASU game every year and lets move LSU to the campus every other year where it belongs.

[TeedupHigh]

Yep!  We have another corner of our poor little old state to blame!!  Them DAMN Farmer's, may not need to say this when you have a fork in your hand by the way!  Remember when NW Ark was just a Poor little old corner of Arkansas?  How do you like it now?  Without NW and NE Arkansas what do you have?  I like Farmer, Wal Mart, Tyson and everything else associated with the state, better be careful of what you wish for by the way..............UCA, that mat be for another day

[TeedupHigh]

Move LSU to the campus!  DAMN, now you have started some crap!!!  This just can't happen!  What about Central Arkansas, they are the "holy ones" only rich people in NW and Farmers in NE.............To hell with it you win

[RAF]

AU & ASU!!!! This has got to be the dumbest move that could happen!  What is wrong with us sending thousands of dollars every year to Louisiana and all of the other "little" podunk teams we play each year.  DAMN!  It's not like the Great State of Arkansas needs to keep any of the dollars since we are more than rolling in them!  I have never saw the reason other state's team play each other, that is so F*&ked up. Alabama, Cally, O & O state, Mississippi, DAMN, They are a lot of state schools that play each.........How stupid can they be.

Since when does ASU's Athletic Dept. = "the Great State of Arkansas"?  You know that there's no public money involved, right?

[Golf53]

Dang Teedup.  Know your facts before you go on your rant.

The ASU sports teams were once called the Farmers. And the Aggies.  I grew up in an east Arkansas farming community and paid my way thru school working for an ag flying service.  I know the importance of farming.  I was being sarcastic.

[Shoat61]

Too many GOP representatives and senators from NWA for this to happen.  Rest easy.

[The Hogfather]

Yesterday I heard Dustin McDaniel talking about our legislature moving to have an Arkansas / AState matchup.  Could this really happen?

I hate when the government gets involved in sheet like this.  There's no reason for them to worry about this.

[Man_O_Pork]

You guys saying "government should stay out of college football" do realize that UA and ASU are both public schools, right?

[Pulled(PP)pork]

Don't wanna get into politics here, but that is among the dumbest things legislators could waste their time on. I'd rather they be out chasing hookers than try to dictate football match-ups.

YOU SHUT YOUR WHORE MOUTH!



PP

[The Hogfather]

You guys saying "government should stay out of college football" do realize that UA and ASU are both public schools, right?

Yes.  They shouldn't worry about college football match-ups.  Next thing you know, they'll be mandating everyone within 200 miles of Jonesboro go to every ASU football game.  Afterall, they are a public school.

[Pigdiana Jones]

What a stupid dumbarse thing to do. Waste taxpayer money on forcing legislative through so the Hogs would have to play some second rate Div 1 team in the state? ASU would be absolutely destroyed if they played the Hogs. What a completely DUMB idea.

[The_Boot_stops_here]

You guys saying "government should stay out of college football" do realize that UA and ASU are both public schools, right?

they aren't saying that gov't should stay out of those state universities....they're saying they should stay out of college FOOTBALL.....gov't has no business concerning themselves with this (or the BCS for that matter)

[hogfanforever]

Stupid Stupid Stupid

1) State Reps, paid as poorly as they are, need to stick to Government issues and not nose into Football

2) Like it or not, ASU, UCA, UAPB, UAM, SAU, ATU, etc. and so on are NOT on the level of the Razorbacks...no matter if they are classified as a D1 school or not....so it would either be an a$$-stomping every year, or an upset of App State-Michigan proportions

3) I'm sure ASU, UCA, UAPB, UAM, SAU, ATU are perfectly good schools (I have relatives going to some of them) with perfectly legitimate athletics programs (I've attended a few games), but they don't have the money (and $Cam Netwon money isn't what I'm talking about) to compete with the Hogs or other "true" D1 teams. They would turn into paycheck-collecting cupcakes. Not exactly the desired outcome...

4) I've not been to a game at ASU, but UCA and ATU...no disrespect intended....but it feels alot like attending a game at a big high school....or maybe Boise State?

5) These schools and their teams are the prefect place for a lot of talented in-state players who wouldn't otherwise see a scholly in NCAA football.

oh, I can feel the smites already

[Pulled(PP)pork]

Stupid Stupid Stupid

1) State Reps, paid as poorly as they are, need to stick to Government issues and not nose into Football

2) Like it or not, ASU, UCA, UAPB, UAM, SAU, ATU, etc. and so on are NOT on the level of the Razorbacks...no matter if they are classified as a D1 school or not....so it would either be an a$$-stomping every year, or an upset of App State-Michigan proportions

3) I'm sure ASU, UCA, UAPB, UAM, SAU, ATU are perfectly good schools (I have relatives going to some of them) with perfectly legitimate athletics programs (I've attended a few games), but they don't have the money (and $Cam Netwon money isn't what I'm talking about) to compete with the Hogs or other "true" D1 teams. They would turn into paycheck-collecting cupcakes. Not exactly the desired outcome...

4) I've not been to a game at ASU, but UCA and ATU...no disrespect intended....but it feels alot like attending a game at a big high school....or maybe Boise State?

5) These schools and their teams are the prefect place for a lot of talented in-state players who wouldn't otherwise see a scholly in NCAA football.

oh, I can feel the smites already

so, you are worried about being upset by the in-state team?  Michigan still plays football, you know

not like the other cupcake paycheck collecting schools we schedule?

the Boise St that is number #3 and has a very rabid fanbase, all the way up in Idaho



PP

[Smithian]

Dustin McDaniel is an Arkansas grad.

Trust me, he is very much just pandering to some people in his home town with these comments.

[SteveInArk]

Dustin McDaniel is an Arkansas grad.

Trust me, he is very much just pandering to some people in his home town with these comments.

Understand your point, but don't mistake loyalty to your alma mater, with supporting ideas that might prove to be "beneficial" to different interests in the state of Arkansas.  That could mean money to some, political gain to others, and, ... whatever.  Lots of folks that are UA grads support the matchup, lots don't. 

Just a point, I personally don't even know where McDaniel stands on the issue.

[Shoat61]

I am a  multiple alum of the UA and a very longtime fan.  The things you are saying about ASU I heard about Florida State, VaTech, Penn State, So. Miss, Memphis, Arizona, Arizona State, Texas Tech, Houston, Louisville, etc, etc, etc.  I for one would rather play ASU than any of the cupcakes we now play.  I think it would strengthen high school football in the state and benefit the Hogs most of all.

[Red Tusk]

If the powers that be thnk we need a U of A vs A-State game, I say give LR the a Hog vs. ASU game every year and lets move LSU to the campus every other year where it belongs.

I am a  multiple alum of the UA and a very longtime fan.  The things you are saying about ASU I heard about Florida State, VaTech, Penn State, So. Miss, Memphis, Arizona, Arizona State, Texas Tech, Houston, Louisville, etc, etc, etc.  I for one would rather play ASU than any of the cupcakes we now play.  I think it would strengthen high school football in the state and benefit the Hogs most of all.

This^
Play it in LR and move the LSU game to campus.
I don't quite like legistlators dictating it but lets just get this over with already.

[sigpooie]

As a state with only 2million people we really need this game.
Play the game in in WMS in Sept. It would be a party. And I think it might one day help ASU get into a better league. I would rather have them than MSU in the SEC West and it would help the state by making ASU a power house in the east side of the state.
Why do you guys only want one team in this state?

[The Hogfather]

I am a  multiple alum of the UA and a very longtime fan.  The things you are saying about ASU I heard about Florida State, VaTech, Penn State, So. Miss, Memphis, Arizona, Arizona State, Texas Tech, Houston, Louisville, etc, etc, etc.  I for one would rather play ASU than any of the cupcakes we now play.  I think it would strengthen high school football in the state and benefit the Hogs most of all.

Strengthen high school football and benefit Hogs?  You are obviously confused.

[Red Tusk]

As a state with only 2million people we really need this game.
Play the game in in WMS in Sept. It would be a party. And I think it might one day help ASU get into a better league. I would rather have them than MSU in the SEC West and it would help the state by making ASU a power house in the east side of the state.
Why do you guys only want one team in this state?

You contradicted yourself.
UA needs all of the elite athletes the state has to provide based on the population figures stated. This state can have only one powerhouse and it will always be UA.
Play the game but as far as ASU joining the SEC one day?...ridiculous

[ark30inf]

I'm an ASU fan and a UA fan.  If both schools come to the conclusion that it is beneficial and a money-maker then fine.  If one or both doesn't, that is fine.  But I don't think it should be forced by politicians.

But...until they both decide to play....I wish that those that trash talk the other would stop.  It is lame as hell to trash talk teams you will not play on the field.  Really lame.  And it is ignorant to try and provoke the fans of teams that don't have an interest in playing you when you need to concentrate on the ones who do.

Until the two freely agree to play each other the fans of that type on both sides should just ignore each other.

[hawgsalot]

You guys bashing Dustin are idiots and this entire post is based on what someone thought they heard not what he said he wanted.  He's a graduate from UA and UA law, trust me when I tell you, he's pro whatever UA wants.  Anybody suggesting differently is the dbag.  What he said was the legislation, which he's not? 

[The Hogfather]

But...until they both decide to play....I wish that those that trash talk the other would stop.  It is lame as hell to trash talk teams you will not play on the field.  Really lame.  And it is ignorant to try and provoke the fans of teams that don't have an interest in playing you when you need to concentrate on the ones who do.

Until the two freely agree to play each other the fans of that type on both sides should just ignore each other.

I completely agree.  It is a waste of time to trash talk ASU fans, even though they have a horrible football team/athletic department.  We should just ignore them, even though it is really hard because they are so horrible.

[MountieDawg]

I have heard Gov Beebe was just waiting to be elected for his 2nd term and then was going to make it happen!

[MountieDawg]

Would you fill every seat in the stands at RRS for that game or LA Monroe?  You could probably charge Ark St people $150 per seat...

[RAF]

As a state with only 2million people we really need this game.
Play the game in in WMS in Sept. It would be a party. And I think it might one day help ASU get into a better league. I would rather have them than MSU in the SEC West and it would help the state by making ASU a power house in the east side of the state.
Why do you guys only want one team in this state?

The first step to ASU becoming a "power house" would be to stop sucking so bad in their own conference.  They haven't had a winning record, despite their pitiful conference, in at least a decade, and they can't blame Arkansas for that.  Upsetting an AQ team isn't going to legitimize them, either.

[ark30inf]

I completely agree.  It is a waste of time to trash talk ASU fans, even though they have a horrible football team/athletic department.  We should just ignore them, even though it is really hard because they are so horrible.

There are jerks everywhere who try to trash their own state's institutions and their own state's kids.  They are indeed hard to ignore because they damage the state I love.  But some Arkansans on both sides who just enjoy crapping their own nest.  What can you do.

[gostAte]

This as been tried many, many times.  A rep named Jerry Bookout from the wasteland of NE Arkansas tried it several times.  Never got beyond the talking stages.

What the Farmers fail to realize is they think way more of themselves than does the rest of the state.  I know guys who are ASU grads who would leave J'boro on home game weekends and come to LR to see the Hogs play.

I know the Wolves have finally agreed to play UCA which is where they need to start.  Maybe try UAPB next and then see if they can progress to the Hogs.  That way all that money can be kept in-state and help UCA and UAPB recruit against ASU.    

First, could I get that link to this quote from Dustin McDaniel? I have a feeling this was posted to stir the board up. Guess it worked. By the way I hear the world is ending in 2012.

Why all the hate for ASU and Northeast Arkansas? That's just weird. I don't hate another corner of the state.

This is not the first time we have played UCA. We barely beat them twice in the late 90s remember. They even hold the series lead with their last win coming in the '37 season.

I saw a UA fan on national television at the ASU/MTSU game. What was your point about ASU fans going to Hog games?

Finally, I have to agree with one thing in this thread. Less is more with government involvement, especially in the sports world.