suppressors anyone?

[kodiakisland]

I'm finally going to do it.  I've resisted for years because I didn't want to do the paperwork, but by now the government knows I've got guns anyway.  It just makes sense to have a couple of suppressors for as much shooting as I do.  After all, we wouldn't drive a car without a muffler, would we.  Plus, they are legal for hunting so why not.

Anyone else here using a can?  I'll be getting one for 22lr and one for 7.62 and smaller.  Of course it will be in a year or so when I can bring it home.  That gives me plenty of time to get barrels threaded.

[OnTheHillHogFan]

I've thought about getting one for a 22 but just haven't done it. Would be nice for when I am shooting it for a while.

[DeltaBoy]

Go join the High Road they have a sub forum dedicated to just that.

[supersaint]

Do it.
Go Hogs.

[OnTheHillHogFan]

Do it.
Go Hogs.

Nice!

[Rzbakfromwaybak]

If I get one, it's going to be the same brand that James Bond used.  Attaches on & off instantly, & makes only a very soft click or thud.  He used it in Hotel's all over the world......& can't ever remember him being reported for noise violations.

[pigture perfect]

I've got a .22 that is made to take one, I may go ahead and get it so I can shoot the squirrels out of my dads pecan trees in Little Rock.

[Wayne Watson]

If I get one, it's going to be the same brand that James Bond used.  Attaches on & off instantly, & makes only a very soft click or thud.  He used it in Hotel's all over the world......& can't ever remember him being reported for noise violations.

And he got more a** than a toilet seat.  Good plan.

[CallThemHawgs!]

I'm finally going to do it.  I've resisted for years because I didn't want to do the paperwork, but by now the government knows I've got guns anyway.  It just makes sense to have a couple of suppressors for as much shooting as I do.  After all, we wouldn't drive a car without a muffler, would we.  Plus, they are legal for hunting so why not.

Anyone else here using a can?  I'll be getting one for 22lr and one for 7.62 and smaller.  Of course it will be in a year or so when I can bring it home.  That gives me plenty of time to get barrels threaded.

Funny thing you posted this. I finally decided yesterday I was going to take the plunge.

With the e filing it only takes a few months now. Going to get one for my SASS chambered in .243 Win

[CallThemHawgs!]

How did yours go Kodiak?

[CallThemHawgs!]

Anyone here in Wash county go thru the process? I know you have to get the Sheriff to sign off on it. Being ex military/concealed carry/no record I cant imagine I would have any problem with that... but, you never know these days

[kodiakisland]

Have not done mine yet.  I haven't found what I'm looking for in stock anywhere.

[Hogs run wild]

Set up a trust and you dont have to get the sheriff to sign off on anything. As for finding things in stock, find a good place that can do suppressor transfers and order what you want from silencershop.com

[CallThemHawgs!]

Set up a trust and you dont have to get the sheriff to sign off on anything. As for finding things in stock, find a good place that can do suppressor transfers and order what you want from silencershop.com

Someone mentioned the trust deal a few days ago, how exactly does it work?

[Hogs run wild]

Someone mentioned the trust deal a few days ago, how exactly does it work?

You get software that can set up a "revocable living trust" and it acts like an entity. And, since entities are not individuals, they do not have a criminal record. Entities can own property such as: homes, guns, cars, etc. Therefore, you bypass needing a criminal background check. If you have an LLC or business of some type, you can purchase property through that too and bypass the criminal check.

[supersaint]

Funny thing you posted this. I finally decided yesterday I was going to take the plunge.

With the e filing it only takes a few months now. Going to get one for my SASS chambered in .243 Win

Efile (form 4) has been down for several weeks now with no eta for its return.

[Virgil]

I'd like to have one but last I checked those things are PRICEY!!

[CallThemHawgs!]

I'd like to have one but last I checked those things are PRICEY!!

When you have $3,000 in the gun already. A $600 piece to make the gun 100x more enjoyable is light work haha

[supersaint]

I'd like to have one but last I checked those things are PRICEY!!

There are some .22 cans that aren't too expensive (subjective). The SWR Warlock II is a quality can for about $230. Of course you still have to pay the $200 for the tax stamp.

[kodiakisland]

Expense is all relative.  For something you might shoot once or twice a year, yeah, way too expensive.  For something you shoot weekly, cost is pretty negligible over several years of use.

[supersaint]

I'm not sure what part of the state you're in, but Chris Hettman from Nfagear.com is in Beebe. He's great to deal with. I got my first two cans from him and have a Saker 762 pending with him.

The trust route is the way to go IMHO.

Once you get your forms filed, nfatracker.com is a fairly accurate resource for predicting the turnaround time.

[HogSophist]

You get software that can set up a "revocable living trust" and it acts like an entity. And, since entities are not individuals, they do not have a criminal record. Entities can own property such as: homes, guns, cars, etc. Therefore, you bypass needing a criminal background check. If you have an LLC or business of some type, you can purchase property through that too and bypass the criminal check.

Be careful of trust software and the nfa. 

[kodiakisland]

Be careful of trust software and the nfa. 

Details?

[kodiakisland]

I'm not sure what part of the state you're in, but Chris Hettman from Nfagear.com is in Beebe. He's great to deal with. I got my first two cans from him and have a Saker 762 pending with him.

The trust route is the way to go IMHO.

Once you get your forms filed, nfatracker.com is a fairly accurate resource for predicting the turnaround time.

Chris has one of the suppressors I want on order.  Just waiting for it to come in to get the paperwork started.

[HogSophist]

Details?

Most software is designed for folks to pass assets and avoid probate. Gun trusts need to account for state and federal specific statutes, multiple trustees, etc.

If I'm putting specific items in trust that are very valuable and are governed by the Feds and state I would want to go find someone who does this type of work.

[kodiakisland]

Gotcha.  Would certainly have someone who knows what they are doing if I went that route.

[Hogs run wild]

Most software is designed for folks to pass assets and avoid probate. Gun trusts need to account for state and federal specific statutes, multiple trustees, etc.

If I'm putting specific items in trust that are very valuable and are governed by the Feds and state I would want to go find someone who does this type of work.

Both options work. Many people have used software (myself included) to buy suppressors. The BATF looks over the paperwork prior to approval. Also, the software does account for federal/state statutes and multiple trustees.

[supersaint]

Quicken Willmaker trust here
Be careful with NFA purchases, they seem to multiply.

[CallThemHawgs!]

Quicken Willmaker trust here
Be careful with NFA purchases, they seem to multiply.

The idea of this really intrigues me. What are the legal grounds for this, and how exactly does it allow you to bypass the Sheriff, etc

[supersaint]

The idea of this really intrigues me. What are the legal grounds for this, and how exactly does it allow you to bypass the Sheriff, etc

NFA items can be transferred to individuals (need chief LEO sign off, finger prints, etc...).  NFA items may also be transferred to corporations (or other legal entities such as a trust). When the paperwork to request transfer of an NFA item is initiated by an officer of a corporation or a trustee, a signature from local law enforcement is not required, and fingerprint cards and photographs do not need to be submitted with the transfer request.

Do a search for "NFA Trust" or "Gun Trust", and you'll find tons of resources and guides explaining it all.  It's not as complicated as it may seem. I did tons of research before proceeding with my trust and stamp applications.  There are also lawyers who are more than willing to assist. 


Edit to add...for anyone reading this...the trust rout to NFA ownership should NOT be seen as a way for someone who's prohibited from owning firearms to obtain them.  Trust or not, if you're a felon, and you have a suppressor, you're committing another felony.