Nolan Richardson Court Proposal

[grayhawg]

           


NOLAN RICHARDSON COURT

Count me in for that name.

[3of5-2]

If I think my boss is racist I will tell them in a New York minute. You can take that to the bank snowflake. I bow to no man kemosabe.

You are always whining about people being racists. It's always about race with you. Something critical of MA, it must be because they are racists. Something critical of NR, it's because they are racists. You blame everything on race, and yet use Native American lingo to punctuate your disdain for the poster. Classic.

[HawgHeadCheese]

You are always whining about people being racists. It's always about race with you. Something critical of MA, it must be because they are racists. Something critical of NR, it's because they are racists. You blame everything on race, and yet use Native American lingo to punctuate your disdain for the poster. Classic.

Broyles was believed to be racist though

[panhandlepig]

It's past time. Man needs a statue, too. You win a Natty you earn a statue.

  I couldn't care less about statues and I doubt he does either.

   Name the court. He earned it.  All those players who contributed deserve it too.

[3of5-2]

Broyles was racist though

All the interactions I had with Frank, never did I see racism. There were times when he probably wasn't the nicest guy, but it wasn't because he was a "racist". Believe it or not, some white folks ain't the only ones that are "racists". Everybody is probably racist to some extent. Question is, do you go through life looking to blame racism for all things that don't go your way? My answer is, that there are some on here that do.

[MikePiazza]

Norm Stewart has the court at Mizzou Arena named after him despite:

1) never coaching a game in it
2) never making a Final Four

Since he retired, two coaches, one of which is known as 'Mediocre Mike' on this board, have reached the highest achievement (Elite Eight) that he attained.

Nolan Richardson made three Final Fours, two national championship games, and beat DUKE in the national championship game and has had to wait get the court named after him because he went on a tirade in a couple of press conferences and then filed a lawsuit almost two decades ago.

To further illustrate my point, Eddie Sutton made two Final Fours at Oklahoma State and got the court named for him, then proceeded to get a DUI ON CAMPUS a year later. You don't think that would've invited a lawsuit had he injured a student or someone from the Stillwater community?

It's kind of one of those deals where even though Nolan did some things he's likely not proud of and that no one should be, you still honor history. You don't whitewash it. And his HOF career deserves permanent recognition on the court.

[BrooklynRoss]

This should shut up the cynics. It won't, but it should.

Good to have you back, man.

[3of5-2]

Has anyone even asked Nolan if he would like the court named after him? It might be a good idea to talk to the man to see if he even cares about that. I certainly think it would be an honor, but he may have a different slant on this whole conversation.

[hobhog]

The fact that people don't think the guy who won us our only NC shouldn't have the court named after him says a lot about our fan base.

Go back and WATCH what he said, how he said it, and how his career ended. It's easy to be condescending if you didn't witness it or know the specifics.

I'd vote no if asked, but won't really care if done.

[BrooklynRoss]

Has anyone even asked Nolan if he would like the court named after him? It might be a good idea to talk to the man to see if he even cares about that. I certainly think it would be an honor, but he may have a different slant on this whole conversation.

Here's his take: http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/13814160/former-arkansas-coach-nolan-richardson-years-anger-softened.

[hawkhawg]

Lets don't stop at the court:  The University of Nolan Richardson

[3of5-2]

Here's his take: http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/13814160/former-arkansas-coach-nolan-richardson-years-anger-softened.

Thanks, that was a good read, and I do think he has put some things to rest. I would just like for someone to ask him point blank about having the floor named after him, and see what he has to say.

[Razorback_Mack]

Lets don't stop at the court:  The University of Nolan Richardson

They name stuff after people at universities. Have you ever been to one or do you just watch basketball games on TV?

[Porked Tongue]

[hawkhawg]

They name stuff after people at universities. Have you ever been to one or do you just watch basketball games on TV?

Well actually most games I watch are on TV.

[Razorback_Mack]

Well actually most games I watch are on TV.

You'd have been a great addition to the Bozo show.

[PonderinHog]

Maybe in a few more years

[razorback1829]

Has anyone even asked Nolan if he would like the court named after him? It might be a good idea to talk to the man to see if he even cares about that. I certainly think it would be an honor, but he may have a different slant on this whole conversation.

From the article:"Smith brought the idea up with other senators and with Caleb Gray, the director of athletic relations with the ASG, and introduced the resolution to the group on Jan. 31. He said he has talked to Richardson about the idea.
"I would say to the students that if they felt I did a job they liked and they want to express their opinion on something such as naming the court after me, there's no reason for me to not want anything to happen," Richardson said."

[BentonvilleJeff]

Nolan had a fire in his belly. It got him fired and also it won us a national title.

[3of5-2]

From the article:"Smith brought the idea up with other senators and with Caleb Gray, the director of athletic relations with the ASG, and introduced the resolution to the group on Jan. 31. He said he has talked to Richardson about the idea.
"I would say to the students that if they felt I did a job they liked and they want to express their opinion on something such as naming the court after me, there's no reason for me to not want anything to happen," Richardson said."

That sounds like he's ok with it, but I don't like the idea of students who are only here for a few years, having the final say.

[hawkhawg]

You'd have been a great addition to the Bozo show.

Why are you so mad?

Im about as big a Nolan Richardson Fan you will find.  I think that naming the court after Nolan is long overdue.  I couldn't bring myself to leave Barnhill after that last game because it had so many memories.  I waited around till they made me leave.  I found myself walking out with Nolan and got to have a conversation with him. 

[dcrback]

I lived through all of those turbulent times, Frank Broyles was never a racist...he hired Nolan!  I believe he was the first African-American head basketball coach in our conference but I could be mistaken. Nolan's words hurt a lot of fans like myself who held him in such high esteem. 
The fact that he has stayed in Arkansas near the university tells me he still has warm feelings toward us.
Would I vote to name the court after him?  Not until he showed some measure of remorse.
Just my humble opinion.

[Davidr295]

Im too young to remember the glory days but I'm all for naming the court after him, despite the racist razorback mack's whining trying to call Broyles a racist.

[panhandlepig]

I lived through all of those turbulent times, Frank Broyles was never a racist...he hired Nolan!  I believe he was the first African-American head basketball coach in our conference but I could be mistaken. Nolan's words hurt a lot of fans like myself who held him in such high esteem. 
The fact that he has stayed in Arkansas near the university tells me he still has warm feelings toward us.
Would I vote to name the court after him?  Not until he showed some measure of remorse.
Just my humble opinion.

. What?   Huh?  Keep talking..

[hawgball40]

No he wasn't! Keep repeating it and you think it's true. I swear this kind of crap should be prosecuted a guy gets on here like he knows something and states it like it's true.

You non biased BS opinion and you write it like you know it to be true. Broyles was not perfect and neither was Nolan.

The last 2 coaches in college football to integrate were JFB and Darrell Royal.

Here's a quote from Frank about Darrell Brown, the first black football player at arkansas. click the link to read about the abuse he suffered under Broyles during his brief career as the tackle dummy for the Arkansas Razorbacks.

Longtime football coach and later AD Frank Broyles oversaw every practice. "He wanted them to do what they did," Brown says. "It all came down from the power that Broyles possessed. I remember him being up in the stands when I was running back kicks against eleven of them, and he'd shout out, 'Why is it that you can't catch that n****r?'"

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/881956-arkansas-football-will-finally-honor-integration-pioneer-darrell-brown

[PonderinHog]

. What?   Huh?  Keep talking..

Chop off half my foot and call me Toby!

[razordawg]

Let us not forget that Eddie Sutton turned Arkansas basketball around - Nolan took it to another level. Sometimes you make mistakes in life that do come back to haunt you later - for example, my favorite Coach of all time is Bobby Knight - he won three national championships at Indiana out of the five that they have - his players graduated - he supported the university with time and money - after all of these outstanding accomplishments it did not matter to the University of Indiana - at the end he also left with a bitter departure - and, after all these years the court at Indiana has still not been named in his honor.   

[Porked Tongue]

[hawgball40]

My how times have changed.

"I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it."
     Voltaire

Freedom of speech my lad, not freedom from consequences.

[hawgball40]

All the interactions I had with Frank, never did I see racism. There were times when he probably wasn't the nicest guy, but it wasn't because he was a "racist". Believe it or not, some white folks ain't the only ones that are "racists". Everybody is probably racist to some extent. Question is, do you go through life looking to blame racism for all things that don't go your way? My answer is, that there are some on here that do.

[hawgball40]

Fired for cause aka speaking what's on your mind. Whoopty freaking doo. That's so bad I just wanna curl up and cry thinking about it. I feel violated.

You wan't to curl up and cry because you can't refute my points. stroke your ego on your own.

Dude people around the country have thought Arkansans are racists for a hundred years. And I bet 99% of them can't even tell you who NR is. Get a clue.

Not really. I've lived across the us. mostly all i got were jokes about wearing shoes and "this one has all his teeth guys" stuff. never anything about racism. That doesn't matter though.

My take
Nolan made derogatory comments about the university, thus violating his contract. that was all Frank needed to fire his ass, and he did. Now as i've eluded to in this thread, Nolan was probably speaking the truth about Frank and the athletic department. But it doesn't matter now, let bygones be bygones. Frank is gone now and Nolan is an old ass man. Frank got the broyles center, give Nolan the court. Regardless of their personal drama and mistakes, they both accomplished a great deal at the university, and as such deserve to be recognized. End of discussion in my opinion.

[cityhog]

He made derogatory remarks about the program and administration, the effects of which our program still feels to this day.

Alleging racism against a university doesn't damage the perception of the university? what planet do you live on. People still think Arkansas is racist because of it.

Got a hot news flash for you. Nolan Richardson ain't the reason people think Arkansas is racist. Gov Faubus, Little Rock Central High, the Confederacy, Sundown towns, the KKK grand Wizard living here......THOSE are the reasons people think Arkansas is racist.

[okrazorback]

I think it's even more appropriate that people with your opinion are utterly weak and powerless and have no influence to stop this from happening.

Bring on Nolan Richardson Court!

Nolan wa the best basketball coach Arkansas ever had and probably everwill have. Bring it on

[Großer Kriegschwein]

Just as long as it has Slobbering Hog on it, I am in.

[factchecker]

If we can can name stadiums/arenas (Donald W. Reynolds, Bud Walton) after people that donate money then we sure as hell can name facilities for the coaches and administrators who build or raise their respective programs to new heights.

John Barnhill, Frank Broyles, George Cole, John McDonnell, Norm DeBriyn (concourse) all have their name on a facility or part of the stadium.

It's beyond time for the coach responsible for our only national championship in our basketball history to be honored with the naming of our court.

It'd be nice if we built a statue for him in the lobby as well.

It's sad that students who never got to experience the Razorbacks when they were "Rollin' with Nolan" are smarter and more respectful than some of the fans on hogville.

[factchecker]

Is there anything named after Nutt or John L Smith?

Did either of them win a national championship?

[factchecker]

Dude our freaking President says whatever he wants. He has no filter and he was elected to the most prestigious office in the world. I wonder where some of you people live. North Korea I guess.

Obviously there's some things you can't say. But all he said was in so many words pay me my money and they can fire me and I don't play by the same rules as other coaches on the campus play by and people of my race know it. OMG how violating to say that. You snowflakes really are something. We should black ball the guy for life for saying that. What a joke.

They are two faced.  They all wanted Bobby retained despite him lying and hiring his mistress but Nolan speaks out of line and they wanted him fired and don't want to honor him.

[factchecker]

but I don't like the idea of students who are only here for a few years, having the final say.

Many of them will stay and become donors and season ticket holders.  They are the future suite holders and club members.  They, with many other alumni, will help support the athletic program.  The student vote is a sign of changing opinion.  I, for one, am glad to see the change.

[Sow Lancelot]

Freedom of speech my lad, not freedom from consequences.

"No one has the right to say whatever they want." hawgball40

Not my words.

[jackflash]

lets make this happen its time

[hawgball40]

Got a hot news flash for you. Nolan Richardson ain't the reason people think Arkansas is racist. Gov Faubus, Little Rock Central High, the Confederacy, Sundown towns, the KKK grand Wizard living here......THOSE are the reasons people think Arkansas is racist.

Got one for you too: You are minimizing to support your stance. Nolan caused harm to the university, whether or not you want to admit it. He was fired for cause. Its really difficult for me to understand why everyone is so set in their ways on this issue. The truth is in the middle, but none of you ignorant people will hear it.

[hawgball40]

"No one has the right to say whatever they want." hawgball40

Not my words.

You know what I meant Sow. You are just being indignant by splitting cont heirs.

[hawgball40]

Dude our freaking President says whatever he wants. He has no filter and he was elected to the most prestigious office in the world. I wonder where some of you people live. North Korea I guess.

Obviously there's some things you can't say. But all he said was in so many words pay me my money and they can fire me and I don't play by the same rules as other coaches on the campus play by and people of my race know it. OMG how violating to say that. You snowflakes really are something. We should black ball the guy for life for saying that. What a joke.

Ok man, i will say this slowly since you don't seem to understand. HE. WAS. FIRED. FOR. CAUSE. The cause being, he made an insinuating, derogatory remark against his employer to the press. In 99%(if not 100%) of cases, a person making such remarks would be fired for slandering his employer. Just the way it is. You are free to say what you want, but you are not free from the consequences.

[theFlyingHog]

I have a lot of lerning to do. I clicked this thread thinking it would be about something other than racism

[GuvHog]

He got fired for simply speaking his mind and excerising his right to speak freely. Is that not enough of a consequence for you?

Everyone makes mistakes and bad decisions. EVEN YOU. Honestly what he did wasn’t even bad. There was nothing morally wrong about it. It’s not even a character flaw against him.

The fact is human beings are flawed individuals.

Edidie Sutton has a court named after him and he was a terrible alcoholic.

Adolph Rupp has an arena named after him and he was a known racist.

I’m so glad you’re a perfect person though. Enjoy life holding words against people that they simply spoke nearly 20 years ago.

The comments Nolan made while he was Head Coach aren't an issue because he apologized for those. The issue is the lawsuit he filed against the U of A.

I'm one that believes he deserves the honor but when he filed that lawsuit, he bit the hand that fed he and his family for 17 years.

There are people in power up there with long memories.

[mhuff]

Not to dismiss what he has done, but he is not the only one who did wrong things in that instance. Now that Frank is dead and gone, its time to give Nolan the court and let the wound heal for good. Frank was a racist, who said and did racist things to Nolan, whether you like it or not, and didn't change until later on after he retired. That is why the entire department was Gutted, because it was filled with rotten racists. Nolan was wrong to put the school on blast publically like he did, and he was fired. But his reasons for doing so, there was nothing wrong with that. He gave us our own National championship, we can give the court his name. Broyles got the Broyles Center for his many accomplishments, despite the fact that his racist diatribe as both a coach and administrator would have gotten him canned in todays world. So since he can get that despite what he has done, its fair that our other most famous and accomplished coach should get a court named after him despite what he did.  Just my non biased opinion on the matter.

You talk about Frank being a racist. You wouldn't walk on a dead man's  grave would you? Frank also gave us a national championship and spent the rest of his life working for the unniversity he loved. He was respected nationally and labored tirelessly for the school he loved. You trample on his name with nothing to back up your charges ,and Frank was the first AD to hire a black basketball coach in the SWC. Your diatribe on Frank seems convoluted to me.

The Bible in Proverbs talks about the power of the tongue. You can say something in fifteen seconds that ruins a relationship that took years to build. Nolan is my favorite basketball coach of all time, but he used his position as a forum to make statements that diishonored the school. It broke my heart when he did this. I knew his time was short. I try to give people the benefit of the doubt. Perhaps he was frustrated ,or  he was feeling the heat to feed the monster. I have always felt that if you couldn't work for someone and not say good things, you should quit rather than bad mouth him or her. I don't know if Nolan
regrets what he did ,but it is a moot point now. I just know that I have forgiven Nolan a long, long time ago. If you don't forgive people, you allow them to control you forever. No thank you. I have more positive things to do with my mind. Also, it puts the university in a bad light if we don't honor Nolan. What image do you want projected. Do we want to be known as a school that shows love and forgiveness or a school that sits around and gloats over having won a lawsuit. This can be an act that shines a bright light on Nolan for his well deserved contributions as a basketball coach or an act that sheds a dark light on our school and state for perpetuating bad feelings for an act I wish had never happened. Take your pick.

[zebradynasty]

Ok man, i will say this slowly since you don't seem to understand. HE. WAS. FIRED. FOR. CAUSE. The cause being, he made an insinuating, derogatory remark against his employer to the press. In 99%(if not 100%) of cases, a person making such remarks would be fired for slandering his employer. Just the way it is. You are free to say what you want, but you are not free from the consequences.

That's not quite how it went down. UA stance was Nolan said he wanted to be fired during a news conference. Nolan said that not what he meant. UA fired him anyway. The racial discrimination game up during the trial. Nolan did bring up several issues of racial disparity. UA however had enough reasons and proof that Nolan's firing was not racially motivated and won. However, there was NO doubt some incidents DID happen that were racially charged and initiated by members of the athletic department. Nolan's big mistake was that news conference had he handled that better he probably would not have sued and if he did he would have had a better chance of winning. The narrative that this was just some frivolous lawsuit is just not true.

[GuvHog]

They are two faced.  They all wanted Bobby retained despite him lying and hiring his mistress but Nolan speaks out of line and they wanted him fired and don't want to honor him.

Any head coach that is stupid enough to get on TV and publicly DARE his bosses to fire him deserves to be fired. I would say the same thing if BP had done that and I believe Nolan regrets doing that.

[mhuff]

sorry, I made a double post

[GuvHog]

You wan't to curl up and cry because you can't refute my points. stroke your ego on your own.
Not really. I've lived across the us. mostly all i got were jokes about wearing shoes and "this one has all his teeth guys" stuff. never anything about racism. That doesn't matter though.

My take
Nolan made derogatory comments about the university, thus violating his contract. that was all Frank needed to fire his ass, and he did. Now as i've eluded to in this thread, Nolan was probably speaking the truth about Frank and the athletic department. But it doesn't matter now, let bygones be bygones. Frank is gone now and Nolan is an old ass man. Frank got the broyles center, give Nolan the court. Regardless of their personal drama and mistakes, they both accomplished a great deal at the university, and as such deserve to be recognized. End of discussion in my opinion.

For the record, Frank didn't fire Nolan. John White did that. John White had taken control of the men's basketball program away from Frank several years before Nolan was fired.