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Gafford draft projections
« on: February 10, 2018, 05:57:34 pm »

Bleacher Report just released their
post trade deadline mock draft
Gafford going 22nd to Milwaukee
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Re: Gafford draft projections
« Reply #1 on: February 10, 2018, 06:07:59 pm »

Yep and some weird guy on here said he wasn't predicted top 60
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Re: Gafford draft projections
« Reply #2 on: February 10, 2018, 06:09:50 pm »

He's not ready for the league, but he will be better off if he leaves.
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Re: Gafford draft projections
« Reply #3 on: February 10, 2018, 06:49:25 pm »

NOT DRAFTABLE at this moment. He can't take physical play yet and has only been playing for 5 years. He has a long way to go but a ton of potential.
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Re: Gafford draft projections
« Reply #4 on: February 10, 2018, 06:58:55 pm »

He will develop more sitting on a nba bench than never getting the ball thrown to him for the Hogs.
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Re: Gafford draft projections
« Reply #5 on: February 10, 2018, 07:06:11 pm »

Can’t make Free Throws and has been exposed in SEC games
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Re: Gafford draft projections
« Reply #6 on: February 10, 2018, 07:12:50 pm »

NOT DRAFTABLE at this moment. He can't take physical play yet and has only been playing for 5 years. He has a long way to go but a ton of potential.

1000% draftable. He will be a multi-millionaire if goes pro after this season. You have your head up your butt.
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Re: Gafford draft projections
« Reply #7 on: February 10, 2018, 07:18:21 pm »

So we got us a real dyed in the wool one and done...How about that.
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Re: Gafford draft projections
« Reply #8 on: February 10, 2018, 07:18:44 pm »

1000% draftable. He will be a multi-millionaire if goes pro after this season. You have your head up your butt.

My thought, ready or not, if the nba people tell him he is going to be a 1st rounder you have to go. Ask Moses. He was projected as a 2nd rounder after his jr yr, came back and dropped out of the draft. If Gafford is projected 1st rn you go, bank your money and set yourself up for life if you make good choices.
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Re: Gafford draft projections
« Reply #9 on: February 10, 2018, 07:31:29 pm »

NOT DRAFTABLE at this moment. He can't take physical play yet and has only been playing for 5 years. He has a long way to go but a ton of potential.


Your last sentence is why there is a huge chance.  Basketball drafts a lot on potential.
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Re: Gafford draft projections
« Reply #10 on: February 10, 2018, 07:42:55 pm »

Amazing. Second time for monitoring. Unreal. Get some high school refs. Gotta be better
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Re: Gafford draft projections
« Reply #11 on: February 10, 2018, 07:44:29 pm »

He will develop more sitting on a nba bench than never getting the ball thrown to him for the Hogs.

While making millions
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Re: Gafford draft projections
« Reply #12 on: February 10, 2018, 07:54:18 pm »

NBA draft net doesn’t have him being drafted this year, but number 7 overall the following year.
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Re: Gafford draft projections
« Reply #13 on: February 10, 2018, 08:04:06 pm »

NBA draft net doesn’t have him being drafted this year, but number 7 overall the following year.

I do hope he stays.  He should be the main focus on the team next year with everyone we are losing.
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Re: Gafford draft projections
« Reply #14 on: February 10, 2018, 08:51:21 pm »

Come on, let’s be real.  He is not ready for the NBA yet.
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Re: Gafford draft projections
« Reply #15 on: February 10, 2018, 08:59:18 pm »

Come on, let’s be real.  He is not ready for the NBA yet.

That does not mean he can’t be a first-round pick or even a lottery pick. I’d invite you to take a look at past year’s drafts. “Ready” is irrelevant.
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Re: Gafford draft projections
« Reply #16 on: February 10, 2018, 08:59:38 pm »

He could be drafted. But there’s a lot of bigs this year and I don’t think he would go until 2nd round. Teams that don’t have the cap always take Europe’s guys that won’t make it over just so they take a pick but never lose a dime. He will be a lottery pick as a sophomore tho.
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Re: Gafford draft projections
« Reply #17 on: February 10, 2018, 09:07:18 pm »

If he's a solid 1st round prospect, he ought to go.
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Re: Gafford draft projections
« Reply #18 on: February 10, 2018, 09:21:30 pm »

The people who been on here saying he wasn't 1st round material, bet you feel pretty dumb right about now. he's 6'11 and can jump out of the damn gym and has rapidly progressed as a freshman this season.
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Re: Gafford draft projections
« Reply #19 on: February 10, 2018, 09:23:26 pm »

If he's a solid 1st round prospect, he ought to go.
I think there is a chance he comes back for another year. He is 1000% razorback. fwiw, he's a really nice person and down to earth, and will talk to anyone who is kind to him. really shocking someone of his social stature and fame is so down to earth. he'll follow you back on twitter and talk to you if you talk to him. meanwhile, some other razorbacks are too stuck up to give people the time of day.
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Re: Gafford draft projections
« Reply #20 on: February 10, 2018, 09:32:07 pm »

That windmill dunk should be drafted #1.
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Re: Gafford draft projections
« Reply #21 on: February 10, 2018, 09:35:39 pm »

He could be drafted. But there’s a lot of bigs this year and I don’t think he would go until 2nd round. Teams that don’t have the cap always take Europe’s guys that won’t make it over just so they take a pick but never lose a dime. He will be a lottery pick as a sophomore tho.
He has first round potential but going this year would be a gamble.  You want that 1st round which means guaranteed contract.
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Re: Gafford draft projections
« Reply #22 on: February 10, 2018, 09:36:21 pm »

NOT DRAFTABLE at this moment. He can't take physical play yet and has only been playing for 5 years. He has a long way to go but a ton of potential.


Correct.  Also wouldn't be a bad idea to get some touch on his FTs
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Re: Gafford draft projections
« Reply #23 on: February 10, 2018, 09:37:59 pm »

NOT DRAFTABLE at this moment. He can't take physical play yet and has only been playing for 5 years. He has a long way to go but a ton of potential.


Correct.  Come back for year two with about 40 more lbs on, work on his footwork over the summer and get some touch on his FTs...  Then top five!
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Re: Gafford draft projections
« Reply #24 on: February 10, 2018, 09:39:21 pm »

NBA drafts on potential, that boy has got a lottta potential. I would love for him to come back but don't be surprised if he gone.
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Re: Gafford draft projections
« Reply #25 on: February 10, 2018, 09:41:10 pm »

He will cost himself millions if he goes this year.

He will be a lottery pick next season.
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« Reply #26 on: February 10, 2018, 09:42:02 pm »

Odds are, he will be in better position after another year. that being said, if a team drafts this guy......they aren't giving up on him. Regardless of his progress. He has the ability to be special in the NBA......they will give up on a high end 6'4" shooting guard 3 years earlier. Multi, multi millionare....whatever the timing is.
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Re: Gafford draft projections
« Reply #27 on: February 10, 2018, 09:42:53 pm »

He will cost himself millions if he goes this year.

He will be a lottery pick next season.

Shorter contract.....free agency earlier.....not necessarily.
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Re: Gafford draft projections
« Reply #28 on: February 10, 2018, 09:43:02 pm »

I would plan like he's gone, but we'll probably do like when BP left and act all surprised.
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Re: Gafford draft projections
« Reply #29 on: February 10, 2018, 09:44:15 pm »

Shorter contract.....free agency earlier.....not necessarily.

Not likely either.
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« Reply #30 on: February 10, 2018, 09:48:55 pm »

the No. 32 in the 2014 draft, famously accepted the required tender rather than sign long-term with the 76ers. He then signed a three-year, $6,523,127 deal with the Rockets last summer. Despite getting just the minimum his first year, McDaniels has already made more than half of the players selected in the first round ahead of him. Next season, he’ll pass a few more in earnings. Plus, he’ll either become a free agent a second time before 2014 first-rounders do so once (if Houston declines his 2017-18 team option to make him restricted) or an unrestricted free agent before scaled 2014 first-rounders (if Houston exercises his team option).

McDaniels’ plan carried risk. If he got cut in his first training camp, he could’ve walked away with nothing.

Still, there’s already a school of thought that players are better off g
oing early in the second round rather than late in the first, that the freedom to negotiate a shorter contract trumps the lower initial salary.
Now, second-round picks can probably have their cake and eat it too – a higher initial salary and more freedom.

This is not a good plan for a 6'5" shooting guard, but find a 6"10" guy with a 7' + wingspan and he is going to get multiple chances .....even if he sucks early on. He is the poster child of the guy that could go early 2nd round and after 6 years have made more than a lottery pick. And have free agency approaching


All that being said....I sure hope I get another year to watch DG. He could be dynamic next year.....loved seeing him knock down that 14' shot on the wing.
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Re: Gafford draft projections
« Reply #31 on: February 10, 2018, 09:57:34 pm »

If get's stronger in the legs and upper body he's a lotto pick after next year. Of course he could do that this summer after he's drafted but an extra year could really boost him up draft board.
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« Reply #32 on: February 10, 2018, 10:01:40 pm »

the No. 32 in the 2014 draft, famously accepted the required tender rather than sign long-term with the 76ers. He then signed a three-year, $6,523,127 deal with the Rockets last summer. Despite getting just the minimum his first year, McDaniels has already made more than half of the players selected in the first round ahead of him. Next season, he’ll pass a few more in earnings. Plus, he’ll either become a free agent a second time before 2014 first-rounders do so once (if Houston declines his 2017-18 team option to make him restricted) or an unrestricted free agent before scaled 2014 first-rounders (if Houston exercises his team option).

McDaniels’ plan carried risk. If he got cut in his first training camp, he could’ve walked away with nothing.

Still, there’s already a school of thought that players are better off g
oing early in the second round rather than late in the first, that the freedom to negotiate a shorter contract trumps the lower initial salary.
Now, second-round picks can probably have their cake and eat it too – a higher initial salary and more freedom.

This is not a good plan for a 6'5" shooting guard, but find a 6"10" guy with a 7' + wingspan and he is going to get multiple chances .....even if he sucks early on. He is the poster child of the guy that could go early 2nd round and after 6 years have made more than a lottery pick. And have free agency approaching


All that being said....I sure hope I get another year to watch DG. He could be dynamic next year.....loved seeing him knock down that 14' shot on the wing.

And walkon get scholarships sometimes.

Are we really trying to say that second rounders make more money than lottery picks most of the time?
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Re: Gafford draft projections
« Reply #33 on: February 10, 2018, 10:02:29 pm »

Gafford absolutely projects as a high pick. The pros do their homework. They know about his potential. You cant teach his athleticism and size. As much as we don't want him to leave, he would be silly not to if he's a first rounder.
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« Reply #34 on: February 10, 2018, 10:04:21 pm »

That windmill dunk should be drafted #1.
The block on the other end had a solid sound to it, too.
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« Reply #35 on: February 10, 2018, 10:10:43 pm »

Can't believe there are people on hogville who believe Daniel Gafford wouldn't be drafted this year based on his athleticism and potential. Dude has 50 dunks in college basketball as a freshman, and freakish athleticism for his size. The way he is progressing in the post, the guy is quickly rounding in to form. show me 30 nba talents in this years crop that are better than Gafford. You can't.
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« Reply #36 on: February 10, 2018, 10:10:48 pm »

I don't usually chime in on whether a player should enter the professional draft or not because it ends up becoming too much of a monetary discussion and if the goal ends up becoming having so much money for this and that reason and risk vs. reward, then it just becomes the same ole talking points back and forth and arguments can be made either way in that case all day long.  I think Gafford is going to be fine in life regardless, and I say that even if he never plays in the NBA (obviously I think he will).  No matter what I think personally, I can't really say if it would be silly or not for him to leave after this year or that year, as again it comes down to his value system and goals and what is most important to him. 

If the goals involve things such as what one wants to achieve at the college level and legacy achieved from that, then it changes the discussion some.  If Gafford has certain goals he wants to achieve in a Razorback uniform, along with NBA goals and things associated with that, then it changes the dynamics of all of that.  A lot can be said for someone doing great things in college and having the memories of that.  Again, it comes down to one's value system and whether that involves other things besides money, chasing money, material possessions, etc. 

I do think he will benefit with the dynamics and makeup of the team next year, as I see it as more of ball movement sharing the ball team with him being a more focal point of the offense.   That and improvement in his overall game with more strength and weight, he obviously could be a very high draft pick.  Again, that might be a goal of his vs. just being a late first round draft pick.  He seems like someone who is hungry and motivated by the way he plays the game, so I could see him wanting to be one of the best players in college basketball before going to the next level.  If the Razorback team has a strong year next year with a younger team and him being a key focal point, then that would also say a lot to how he can make a team better.  A lot can also be said by how much he can show in terms of abilities and improvement and how that put him in a stronger position to be a key focal point on an NBA team by an extra year of seasoning at the college level.

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« Reply #37 on: February 10, 2018, 10:46:59 pm »

the No. 32 in the 2014 draft, famously accepted the required tender rather than sign long-term with the 76ers. He then signed a three-year, $6,523,127 deal with the Rockets last summer. Despite getting just the minimum his first year, McDaniels has already made more than half of the players selected in the first round ahead of him. Next season, he’ll pass a few more in earnings. Plus, he’ll either become a free agent a second time before 2014 first-rounders do so once (if Houston declines his 2017-18 team option to make him restricted) or an unrestricted free agent before scaled 2014 first-rounders (if Houston exercises his team option).

McDaniels’ plan carried risk. If he got cut in his first training camp, he could’ve walked away with nothing.

Still, there’s already a school of thought that players are better off g
oing early in the second round rather than late in the first, that the freedom to negotiate a shorter contract trumps the lower initial salary.
Now, second-round picks can probably have their cake and eat it too – a higher initial salary and more freedom.

This is not a good plan for a 6'5" shooting guard, but find a 6"10" guy with a 7' + wingspan and he is going to get multiple chances .....even if he sucks early on. He is the poster child of the guy that could go early 2nd round and after 6 years have made more than a lottery pick. And have free agency approaching


All that being said....I sure hope I get another year to watch DG. He could be dynamic next year.....loved seeing him knock down that 14' shot on the wing.
  exactly  the kid will get drafted, if he goes he'll undergo great coaching & physical development in the G league.  He's got the length & athletic ability that doesn't come around very often & all NBA GMs will be on him like white on rice 
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Re: Gafford draft projections
« Reply #38 on: February 10, 2018, 10:57:02 pm »

1000% draftable. He will be a multi-millionaire if goes pro after this season. You have your head up your butt.
no, I've watched him get shut down by guys who WON'T play in the NBA and he misses more free throws than Shaq.  Another year and he's a high draft pick,
Now pick your head out of your butt, He's coming back next year.
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« Reply #39 on: February 10, 2018, 10:57:45 pm »

If get's stronger in the legs and upper body he's a lotto pick after next year. Of course he could do that this summer after he's drafted but an extra year could really boost him up draft board.
100% agree
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Re: Gafford draft projections
« Reply #40 on: February 10, 2018, 11:01:17 pm »

He is not going to develop in college in a offense where he stands around while the guards do the globetrotter weave out front. Especially next year with 6 fr and a transfer around him.
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« Reply #41 on: February 10, 2018, 11:01:56 pm »

it's a less emotional decision nowadays I feel like. It's all about business, rather than playing for pride for your school or leaving a legacy. Theres a window & when that opportunity is there you take it. Look how much Miles Bridges may have slipped from waiting. When you can, you should go & get your financial security.
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Re: Gafford draft projections
« Reply #42 on: February 10, 2018, 11:08:24 pm »

I would plan like he's gone, but we'll probably do like when BP left and act all surprised.
This ^^^

Need to recruit as though he is gone. I would over sign 1 big and, although I hate saying this, force someone to transfer if he comes back. Hell...Garland may not ever be cleared to play we can't hold that scholarship hostage another year although I would LOVE to see Garland playing next year.

Can't be caught with our pants down again like what happened when Qualls and Portis jumped "unexpectedly"...
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Re: Gafford draft projections
« Reply #43 on: February 10, 2018, 11:17:05 pm »

I love this phenomenon of fans who love and cheer for a really good player on their team, but just torpedo him when the talk of leaving early for the pros comes in. Everyone thinks the guy is great and deserves more respect or attention for various awards or all-conference teams etc., but then they're adamant that he's not ready for the next level. My hypothesis is that they just don't want him to leave, so they do this as a way of kind of burying their head in the sand. It happens over and over again.
As much as I'll miss him, if the year ends and he's a consensus first rounder, he should go.
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« Reply #44 on: February 10, 2018, 11:17:33 pm »

This ^^^

Need to recruit as though he is gone. I would over sign 1 big and, although I hate saying this, force someone to transfer if he comes back. Hell...Garland may not ever be cleared to play we can't hold that scholarship hostage another year although I would LOVE to see Garland playing next year.

Can't be caught with our pants down again like what happened when Qualls and Portis jumped "unexpectedly"...
I don't think Garland's scholarship would count against the roster if he's medically unable to play.
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Re: Gafford draft projections
« Reply #45 on: February 10, 2018, 11:21:14 pm »

In baseball Gafford would be the prospect who throws high 90s but cant hit the plate. He'll get drafted high just because you cant teach a high 90s fastball
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Re: Gafford draft projections
« Reply #46 on: February 10, 2018, 11:21:19 pm »

I don't think Garland's scholarship would count against the roster if he's medically unable to play.
It still counts against scholarships overall no matter the reason for the red shirt. I could be wrong but that's the way it used to be and I haven't followed rules changes and requirements as closely the last couple seasons
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Re: Gafford draft projections
« Reply #47 on: February 10, 2018, 11:24:27 pm »

It still counts against scholarships overall no matter the reason for the red shirt. I could be wrong but that's the way it used to be and I haven't followed rules changes and requirements as closely the last couple seasons
Definitely the case this year (redshirt), but if he doesn't get to play next year I think there's an exception.  I could be wrong again.
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Re: Gafford draft projections
« Reply #48 on: February 10, 2018, 11:25:49 pm »

He will develop more sitting on a nba bench than never getting the ball thrown to him for the Hogs.

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Re: Gafford draft projections
« Reply #49 on: February 10, 2018, 11:26:42 pm »

I love this phenomenon of fans who love and cheer for a really good player on their team, but just torpedo him when the talk of leaving early for the pros comes in. Everyone thinks the guy is great and deserves more respect or attention for various awards or all-conference teams etc., but then they're adamant that he's not ready for the next level. My hypothesis is that they just don't want him to leave, so they do this as a way of kind of burying their head in the sand. It happens over and over again.
As much as I'll miss him, if the year ends and he's a consensus first rounder, he should go.

Of course it is selfishness on the part of the fans. Gafford can't do anything for them if he is in the NBA somewhere.
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