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Author Topic: 2017-18 Razorback Bracketology Tracker  (Read 22277 times)

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Re: 2017-18 Razorback Bracketology Tracker
« Reply #200 on: February 08, 2018, 06:00:35 pm »

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Re: 2017-18 Razorback Bracketology Tracker
« Reply #201 on: February 09, 2018, 05:31:39 am »


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Last 4 Byes (at-large) heading into tonight ... Arkansas, Louisville, Kansas St, Virginia Tech
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Re: 2017-18 Razorback Bracketology Tracker
« Reply #202 on: February 09, 2018, 05:53:50 am »

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A new team enters today, might not be who you think, bracket posted, http://buff.ly/2EeNA08

Last 4 in - Arkansas, NC State, Saint Bonaventure, Boise State
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Re: 2017-18 Razorback Bracketology Tracker
« Reply #203 on: February 09, 2018, 08:36:04 am »

From a projected 5 seed to last 4 in, at this point of the season.
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Re: 2017-18 Razorback Bracketology Tracker
« Reply #204 on: February 09, 2018, 08:37:13 am »

From a projected 5 seed to last 4 in, at this point of the season.

Pathetic.  All blame on Mediocre Mike. 
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Re: 2017-18 Razorback Bracketology Tracker
« Reply #205 on: February 09, 2018, 11:32:28 am »

Pathetic.  All blame on Mediocre Mike. 
We are literally the first team on the last four byes. Basically means we are barely on the bubble. Just barely. If we win tomorrow, we will be off the bubble completely. 
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Re: 2017-18 Razorback Bracketology Tracker
« Reply #206 on: February 09, 2018, 01:13:27 pm »

We are literally the first team on the last four byes. Basically means we are barely on the bubble. Just barely. If we win tomorrow, we will be off the bubble completely. 

and with a loss next week would be right back on it. Not sure beating a bad Vandy at home does much for you
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Re: 2017-18 Razorback Bracketology Tracker
« Reply #207 on: February 09, 2018, 01:14:45 pm »

and with a loss next week would be right back on it. Not sure beating a bad Vandy at home does much for you

I agree, but a loss, we would take a BIG hit!
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Re: 2017-18 Razorback Bracketology Tracker
« Reply #208 on: February 09, 2018, 01:21:10 pm »

I agree, but a loss, we would take a BIG hit!

Jerry Palm said last week all the Hogs needed to do was beat the teams left on the schedule that are NOT going to the NCAAT, then they turned around and lost to the 1st one they played, LSU.
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Re: 2017-18 Razorback Bracketology Tracker
« Reply #209 on: February 10, 2018, 07:46:27 am »

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today's bracket posted, see why I'm not thrilled with it. http://bracketwag.com

Last 4 in - Arkansas, NC State, Houston, Boise State

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Re: 2017-18 Razorback Bracketology Tracker
« Reply #210 on: February 10, 2018, 02:17:52 pm »

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today's bracket posted, see why I'm not thrilled with it. http://bracketwag.com

Last 4 in - Arkansas, NC State, Houston, Boise State



Not a great place to be with 8 games to go.
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Re: 2017-18 Razorback Bracketology Tracker
« Reply #211 on: February 10, 2018, 03:55:44 pm »

Not a great place to be with 8 games to go.
We are not close to last 4 in. We are barely on the bubble.
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Re: 2017-18 Razorback Bracketology Tracker
« Reply #212 on: February 10, 2018, 04:18:33 pm »

We are not close to last 4 in. We are barely on the bubble.

There isn’t much of a gap between last 4 in and barely on the bubble
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Re: 2017-18 Razorback Bracketology Tracker
« Reply #213 on: February 10, 2018, 04:33:08 pm »

We are not close to last 4 in. We are barely on the bubble.

Yet two or 3 of the bracket projections have the Hogs in the 10/11 range, which is certainly last 4 at large range.

Did you believe them when they had the Hogs as a 5 seed?
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Re: 2017-18 Razorback Bracketology Tracker
« Reply #214 on: February 11, 2018, 09:05:16 am »

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OK folks, I know I'll hear some hate, but today's bracket is now posted, and there is a shake-up at the top. Please keep the name-calling to a minimum. NCAA bracket reveal (well, top 4 seeds), 11:30 CT today. http://bracketwag.com

Multi bid conferences - ACC (9), SEC (Eight), Big 12 (7), Big East (6), B1G (4), Pac 12 (4)

"Not sure what my friends in Omaha would think about that..."

 
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Re: 2017-18 Razorback Bracketology Tracker
« Reply #215 on: February 11, 2018, 09:11:16 am »

Shelby Mast
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OK folks, I know I'll hear some hate, but today's bracket is now posted, and there is a shake-up at the top. Please keep the name-calling to a minimum. NCAA bracket reveal (well, top 4 seeds), 11:30 CT today. http://bracketwag.com

Multi bid conferences - ACC (9), SEC (Eight), Big 12 (7), Big East (6), B1G (4), Pac 12 (4)

"Not sure what my friends in Omaha would think about that..."
hey look UNC again 2nd round
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Re: 2017-18 Razorback Bracketology Tracker
« Reply #216 on: February 11, 2018, 12:34:38 pm »

Mich st is only ranked because of their "name"


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Reality for Michigan State is why they were a 3-seed on Friday.  There simply isn't enough "traditional" beef on their resume.  Metrics may help, but who you played, who you beat, where you played still matter.
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Re: 2017-18 Razorback Bracketology Tracker
« Reply #217 on: February 11, 2018, 01:41:28 pm »

Shelby Mast
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OK folks, I know I'll hear some hate, but today's bracket is now posted, and there is a shake-up at the top. Please keep the name-calling to a minimum. NCAA bracket reveal (well, top 4 seeds), 11:30 CT today. http://bracketwag.com

Multi bid conferences - ACC (9), SEC (Eight), Big 12 (7), Big East (6), B1G (4), Pac 12 (4)

"Not sure what my friends in Omaha would think about that..."

 
He's not paying attention. If you go back and look at this thread, he literally dropped us a seed after each victory the last two games. 
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Re: 2017-18 Razorback Bracketology Tracker
« Reply #218 on: February 12, 2018, 06:04:32 am »

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Today's bracket posted with some thoughts on the Bracket Reveal - http://bracketwag.com

Multi bid conferences - ACC (9), SEC (Eight), Big 12 (7), ...
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Re: 2017-18 Razorback Bracketology Tracker
« Reply #219 on: February 12, 2018, 06:45:13 pm »

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We're just a month away from Selection Sunday.

Here's @ESPNLunardi's latest field of 68: http://es.pn/2Cf8ACl


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Re: 2017-18 Razorback Bracketology Tracker
« Reply #220 on: February 13, 2018, 05:29:46 am »

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Re: 2017-18 Razorback Bracketology Tracker
« Reply #221 on: February 13, 2018, 05:46:37 am »

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What a thrilling end to the night, double OT!!! New bracket posted, how much did that game affect things? Check it - http://bracketwag.com

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Re: 2017-18 Razorback Bracketology Tracker
« Reply #222 on: February 14, 2018, 05:28:40 am »

Shelby Mast
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Finished the bracket last night, was looking forward to sleeping til 6, cat had other ideas, so today's bracket now posted. http://bracketwag.com

Multi bid conferences - ACC (9), Big 12 (Eight), SEC (Eight), Big East (6), Big 10 (4),
Pac 12 (4), AAC (3), WCC (2)

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Re: 2017-18 Razorback Bracketology Tracker
« Reply #223 on: February 15, 2018, 05:49:41 am »

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I'm up early for you bracket fans, new bracket posted, check it, http://bracketwag.com


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Re: 2017-18 Razorback Bracketology Tracker
« Reply #224 on: February 15, 2018, 08:45:24 am »

Lunardi has us as an 11 seed facing Miami in Dallas. Second round would be against Texas Tech or Belmont. I don't know why we keep slipping even though we've won 3 straight by double digits, but that's a favorable draw.
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« Reply #225 on: February 15, 2018, 08:46:57 am »

We moved from a 10 seed to a 11 seed on Lunardi's bracket.  We did however move off the "last 4 with a bye" list.  So.....a worst seed but not on his bubble watch list for the time being. 
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Re: 2017-18 Razorback Bracketology Tracker
« Reply #226 on: February 15, 2018, 08:47:08 am »

Lunardi has us as an 11 seed facing Miami in Dallas. Second round would be against Texas Tech or Belmont. I don't know why we keep slipping even though we've won 3 straight by double digits, but that's a favorable draw.

Lol so disrespectful!  But then you look closer, and last bracket, Lunardi had us as a 10 and one of the last four byes.  VaTech and Kansas St move up to bump us to an 11, and they're both in the last four byes now but we no longer are.  I don't get it?!?
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Re: 2017-18 Razorback Bracketology Tracker
« Reply #227 on: February 15, 2018, 08:48:14 am »

Lunardi has us as an 11 seed facing Miami in Dallas. Second round would be against Texas Tech or Belmont. I don't know why we keep slipping even though we've won 3 straight by double digits, but that's a favorable draw.

It’s the record of those 3 teams we just played.

Our next 5 games are against premium opponents. Look for us to move up in seeding as a result.
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Re: Bracketology
« Reply #228 on: February 15, 2018, 08:48:38 am »

Staying away from the 8/9 seed is a very good thing.
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« Reply #229 on: February 15, 2018, 08:48:59 am »

Sorry, just saw the other thread was updated with this info.  Mods can delete.
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Re: Bracketology
« Reply #230 on: February 15, 2018, 08:49:31 am »

Funny that VaTech and Kansas St jumped us to be 10 seeds but they're on the last four byes list.  Doesn't make sense to me.
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Re: 2017-18 Razorback Bracketology Tracker
« Reply #231 on: February 15, 2018, 08:49:54 am »

Its weird because we moved out of the last 4 byes but we moved down a seed. Must have something to do with matchups. So theoretically we moved further away from the bubble but down a seed line...
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Re: 2017-18 Razorback Bracketology Tracker
« Reply #232 on: February 15, 2018, 08:52:00 am »

All quadrant 1 or 2 games from here... bracketology will start to reflect wins the rest of the way.
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Re: 2017-18 Razorback Bracketology Tracker
« Reply #233 on: February 15, 2018, 08:52:41 am »

So I just looked it up. It looks like in the 3 other 7/10 matchups he has SEC schools involved (A&M, Missouri, and Bama all as 7 seeds). In the other non 7/10 matchup he has Auburn as the 2 seed, which theoretically would be a second round matchup. The NCAA historically doesn't like having a rematching (or conference opponents) playing each other until the Sweet 16, therefore he moved us down a seedline due to matchups.

I don't its disrepect, we are no longer in the last 4 in, so we have moved further away from the bubble.

WPS
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Re: 2017-18 Razorback Bracketology Tracker
« Reply #234 on: February 15, 2018, 08:52:49 am »

I don't know why we keep slipping even though we've won 3 straight by double digits, but that's a favorable draw.
Opponent.  It's who those 3 wins came against.  Starting Saturday, we start a 5 game skid that can elevate our level.  Just winning the 3 at home would probably be enough to push us back in to a 6-7 seed.
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Re: Bracketology
« Reply #235 on: February 15, 2018, 08:56:22 am »

I haven't looked at the bracket but the bracket has many guidelines that must be followed like potential matchups with conference teams in  a certain round based on how many times they played in a season.  Teams can be moved up and down a seed line or two to avoid these. 
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« Reply #236 on: February 15, 2018, 08:57:55 am »

Best chance to win 2 games in tourney is from 10-11. Wouldn’t mind that at all.
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Re: 2017-18 Razorback Bracketology Tracker
« Reply #237 on: February 15, 2018, 09:02:45 am »

So I just looked it up. It looks like in the 3 other 7/10 matchups he has SEC schools involved (A&M, Missouri, and Bama all as 7 seeds). In the other non 7/10 matchup he has Auburn as the 2 seed, which theoretically would be a second round matchup. The NCAA historically doesn't like having a rematching (or conference opponents) playing each other until the Sweet 16, therefore he moved us down a seedline due to matchups.

I don't its disrepect, we are no longer in the last 4 in, so we have moved further away from the bubble.

WPS

Honestly from about 7-11 is all the same. Gonna get a high major opponent. Being in Dallas would be awesome though. Barnhill South born again!
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Re: Bracketology
« Reply #238 on: February 15, 2018, 09:05:34 am »

Best chance to win 2 games in tourney is from 10-11. Wouldn’t mind that at all.

Much better than the 8/9.
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Re: 2017-18 Razorback Bracketology Tracker
« Reply #239 on: February 15, 2018, 09:13:00 am »

It’s the record of those 3 teams we just played.

Our next 5 games are against premium opponents. Look for us to move up in seeding as a result.

Yeah, I get that. The past three games were against the bottom tier of the SEC, but still to take care of your business by double digits in each game, including a road win, and then to get moved DOWN a seed feels wrong.

But you're 100% right. We have every opportunity in the world to make our own destiny over the next five games. All five are Q1 games so we could absolutely move all the way up to something like a 6 or 7 seed in the NCAA if we win out. Hell, with some luck we could even squeak into a 2 seed in the SEC if the cards fall right -- although that would require Tennessee losing twice with us winning out, which I don't see happening with both our remaining schedules.
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Re: 2017-18 Razorback Bracketology Tracker
« Reply #240 on: February 15, 2018, 09:24:59 am »

So I just looked it up. It looks like in the 3 other 7/10 matchups he has SEC schools involved (A&M, Missouri, and Bama all as 7 seeds). In the other non 7/10 matchup he has Auburn as the 2 seed, which theoretically would be a second round matchup. The NCAA historically doesn't like having a rematching (or conference opponents) playing each other until the Sweet 16, therefore he moved us down a seedline due to matchups.

I don't its disrepect, we are no longer in the last 4 in, so we have moved further away from the bubble.

WPS

The guidelines for bracketing addresses conference matchups.

https://www.ncaa.com/content/di-principles-and-procedures-selection

Some of the rules:

"Each of the first four teams selected from a
conference shall be placed in different regions if they
are seeded on the first four lines.
Teams from the same conference shall not meet prior
to the regional final if they played each other three or
more times during the regular season and conference
tournament.
Teams from the same conference shall not meet prior
to the regional semifinals if they played each other
twice during the regular season and conference
tournament.
Teams from the same conference may play each
other as early as the second round if they played no
more than once during the regular season and
conference tournament.
Any principle can be relaxed if two or more teams
from the same conference are among the last four atlarge
seeded teams participating in the First Four.
To recognize the demonstrated quality of such teams,
the committee shall not place teams seeded on the
first four lines at a potential “home-crowd
disadvantage” in the first round."
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Re: 2017-18 Razorback Bracketology Tracker
« Reply #241 on: February 15, 2018, 09:25:33 am »

Yeah, I get that. The past three games were against the bottom tier of the SEC, but still to take care of your business by double digits in each game, including a road win, and then to get moved DOWN a seed feels wrong.

But you're 100% right. We have every opportunity in the world to make our own destiny over the next five games. All five are Q1 games so we could absolutely move all the way up to something like a 6 or 7 seed in the NCAA if we win out. Hell, with some luck we could even squeak into a 2 seed in the SEC if the cards fall right -- although that would require Tennessee losing twice with us winning out, which I don't see happening with both our remaining schedules.

It isn't just what Arkansas did. 
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Re: 2017-18 Razorback Bracketology Tracker
« Reply #242 on: February 15, 2018, 09:29:22 am »

It isn't just what Arkansas did. 

KY & FLA fading is hurting the RPi of the league. Also, some of the better OOC wins are not carrying the weight many thought they would because those teams have faded.
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Re: 2017-18 Razorback Bracketology Tracker
« Reply #243 on: February 15, 2018, 09:35:23 am »

KY & FLA fading is hurting the RPi of the league. Also, some of the better OOC wins are not carrying the weight many thought they would because those teams have faded.

How is it hurting the league RPI when they are just losing to other teams in the league?
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« Reply #244 on: February 15, 2018, 09:41:25 am »

Funny that VaTech and Kansas St jumped us to be 10 seeds but they're on the last four byes list.  Doesn't make sense to me.

I haven't seen it, but that is strange to me as well. I don't know how they determine that.
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Re: 2017-18 Razorback Bracketology Tracker
« Reply #245 on: February 15, 2018, 09:49:01 am »

KY & FLA fading is hurting the RPi of the league. Also, some of the better OOC wins are not carrying the weight many thought they would because those teams have faded.

OU is still hanging in the RPI top 25 for now.  Part of it is the B12's RPI inflation due to the complete round robin they play and not having 4 dead weight teams at the bottom.

Next best OOC win Ok St down at 91.

Minnesota let us down this season and the B1G's RPI's aren't buoying them up as the SEC RPI's are helping each other.  UConn is at 99 which helps if they stay in the Top 100.  At least we didn't dip into the SWAC MEAC pool. 

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Re: 2017-18 Razorback Bracketology Tracker
« Reply #246 on: February 15, 2018, 09:51:08 am »

How is it hurting the league RPI when they are just losing to other teams in the league?

SEC's scheduling strategy has paid off.  We are looking like the B12 in the RPI even with the 4 extra teams. 
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Re: 2017-18 Razorback Bracketology Tracker
« Reply #247 on: February 15, 2018, 10:26:08 am »

How is it hurting the league RPI when they are just losing to other teams in the league?

It is which teams they are losing to. Vandy RPi is 113, Ga is near 70, LSu 82, SC 84. So losing to any of those is going to hurt the rpi of whoever loses.
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Re: 2017-18 Razorback Bracketology Tracker
« Reply #248 on: February 15, 2018, 10:28:38 am »

SEC's scheduling strategy has paid off.  We are looking like the B12 in the RPI even with the 4 extra teams. 

How much of it is scheduling though is the question. I have thought since mid Jan the SEC is a mirage, a product of good, selective ooc scheduling, and avoiding playing teams with 200 or 250+ rpi's. Just because the league is closer top to bottom does not mean it is very good.
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Re: 2017-18 Razorback Bracketology Tracker
« Reply #249 on: February 15, 2018, 10:31:25 am »

How much of it is scheduling though is the question. I have thought since mid Jan the SEC is a mirage, a product of good, selective ooc scheduling, and avoiding playing teams with 200 or 250+ rpi's. Just because the league is closer top to bottom does not mean it is very good.

So we are using the Big 12's system to get the same favorable RPI treatment as the Big 12. They get over seeded every year, always get that extra team in that leaves other bubble teams feeling like they got hosed.
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