Coach Morris and QB's

[hogmolar]

In a thread in MMQB someone posted that during his time at Clemson CCM offered 4 qbs,
Deshaun Watson, Chad Kelly, Kelly Bryant, and Lamar Jackson. He seems to be an excellent evaluator of QB talent.

That being said let us keep thid in mind when we make statements like "CCM must get Bohannon.  If he doesnt then ____________" 

While we all look and see that Mr Bohannon, in our eyes, seems to be a special player CCM seems to have a pretty good eye for D1 level upper tier to elite QB talent. Let's let him work and trust the system.

[Hoggish1]

I never understand why fans think they are the saviors of their program and know more than the coaches.  Does anyone think the coaches make decisions against their best interest when it comes to player evaluation?

[scooby21322]

So, as it stands, it's possible we get three QBs in this class (Noland, Bohannan, Jones)?   Doesn't that seem off to you guys? 

[#1 STUNNA]

I think they want Bohannon and Jones more than Noland in my opinion.

[blu]

I don't and I don't know why you would say that.

[#1 STUNNA]

Im sure every recruit gets told the same thing... but Bohannon in an interview said Morris wants him to come in and be the guy. Could just be the sales pitch or he could really want him to be his guy.

[scooby21322]

I don't and I don't know why you would say that.

Even in years when we can sign a full class, it's typical to sign just one QB.  With a small class like this year, we may end up with 3?  And why?  Two will probably never see the field.  It seems a waste of space. 

I'm not making any case about who should or should not be getting the offer, but it makes no sense to be bringing in more than 2 QBs.  I'd say we should only be bringing in 1. 

I understand the reasons, I think.  Noland already committed and is well regarded.  Bohannon probably is the best fit for Morris' system.  And Jones is a wild card with an important grandfather. All three could be great QBs. But, to me, hard conversations need to be made with at least one of them.

[PorkRinds]

I don't feel like Jones ever sees the field as a QB. Nolan and GB can battle it out to see who is the new QB for the system. But I wouldn't count out CK or DH either. Gonna be an interesting battle to watch.

[scooby21322]

I don't feel like Jones ever sees the field as a QB.

Agree.  Does he have potential at any other position?  If so, that may make more sense...

[Oklahawg]

Jones is a blueshirt. His could wind up being a courtesy offer to honor the Jones family.  Won't count against this class, and Jones should not be mentioned in any serious chatter about QBs (imo).

[wpswillriseagain]

I think GB has great potential but going from 2a ball to the SEC is a a huge jump, especially for a QB. He's probably super raw too and needs at least 1, maybe 2 years of development.

[Fan1958]

Even in years when we can sign a full class, it's typical to sign just one QB.  With a small class like this year, we may end up with 3?  And why?  Two will probably never see the field.  It seems a waste of space. 

I'm not making any case about who should or should not be getting the offer, but it makes no sense to be bringing in more than 2 QBs.  I'd say we should only be bringing in 1. 

I understand the reasons, I think.  Noland already committed and is well regarded.  Bohannon probably is the best fit for Morris' system.  And Jones is a wild card with an important grandfather. All three could be great QBs. But, to me, hard conversations need to be made with at least one of them.

Why don't you call up ol' Chad and offer to be his recruiting coordinator?  I mean, he convinced some of the best QBs in the nation to come to Clemson. I'm sure he needs all the help he can get relative to what the recruiting class should look like.

[Freebrd]

Jones is a blueshirt. His could wind up being a courtesy offer to honor the Jones family.  Won't count against this class, and Jones should not be mentioned in any serious chatter about QBs (imo).

^^^^ Agree 100% ^^^^

[jjdlc]

There is also a very real possibility Noland will never set foot on campus.  A lot of speculation that he could be drafted fairly high in the MLB draft.

[PorkRinds]

There is also a very real possibility Noland will never set foot on campus.  A lot of speculation that he could be drafted fairly high in the MLB draft.

Eh. Not that great of a chance for him in the draft.

[RaisinHog]

And if he does not go too draft he knows baseball is where his money will be made ... We need Gerry bad

[Deep Shoat]

Jones ends up as a slot receiver.  Bohannon will either be a beast at QB (doubtful, 2A Arkansas to SEC is too big of a jump) or moves to another position where his athleticism makes him a star. Noland is our QB of the future, until Grant Gunnel arrives.

[HVHog]

I watched Nolan a couple of weeks ago and he can flat sling the ball on a rope and is accurate.  He definitely looks like he can hold his own with anyone, and looks better now than AA did in HS.

[scooby21322]

Jones is a blueshirt. His could wind up being a courtesy offer to honor the Jones family.  Won't count against this class, and Jones should not be mentioned in any serious chatter about QBs (imo).

I get that.  But, he'll redshirt the same year as Noland/Bohannan.  Will graduate at the same time.  So, overall numbers wise (as opposed to class numbers) he seems to be wasted space.  That is, unless they have a plan for him that I'm not seeing.

[scooby21322]

Why don't you call up ol' Chad and offer to be his recruiting coordinator?  I mean, he convinced some of the best QBs in the nation to come to Clemson. I'm sure he needs all the help he can get relative to what the recruiting class should look like.

Oh come on.  Debating about recruiting is what these message boards are for. 

[SooieGeneris]

Jones ends up as a slot receiver.  Bohannon will either be a beast at QB (doubtful, 2A Arkansas to SEC is too big of a jump) or moves to another position where his athleticism makes him a star. Noland is our QB of the future, until Grant Gunnel arrives.

Noland and Gunnell are exactly one year apart, doesn't sound like much of a future for Noland..

[SooieGeneris]

I think they want Bohannon and Jones more than Noland in my opinion.

CM and Noland's coach at Greenwood, Rick Jones, have known each other quite awhile thru Gus.

If he didn't want Noland, one would think he'd inform his long time friend Rick Jones..

[Hugo Bezdek]

Noland and Gunnell are exactly one year apart, doesn't sound like much of a future for Noland..

Unless he beats them out. Gotta like the competition...

[#1 STUNNA]

CM and Noland's coach at Greenwood, Rick Jones, have known each other quite awhile thru Gus.

If he didn't want Noland, one would think he'd inform his long time friend Rick Jones..

my comments are solely on Bohannon saying the staff want him to come in and be the man!!!

[Sow Lancelot]

I never understand why fans think they are the saviors of their program and know more than the coaches.  Does anyone think the coaches make decisions against their best interest when it comes to player evaluation?

If your talking player evaluations of current players then a bunch of folks accused BB of this. Allen brothers, for instance.

[hogmolar]

Too me the best part of seeing who CCM has offered in the past is that they are not "system quarterbacks."  All 4 of the guys listed have been really good quarterbacks in different systems. This shows he can evaluate the talent.   

[scooby21322]

So, I'm not here to try and second guess what they're doing.  Rather, I'm just confused by this tact and was curious if I'm not seeing something.  I can articulate why something doesn't make sense to me without second guessing being my motive. 

[zebradynasty]

It all depends upon how much Morris is willing to eliminate out of his offensive playbook. Despite the offers Noland nor Jones are true dual threat QB's. That doesn't mean they can't run Morris's offense he'll just have to cut some plays out. If Bohannon is the what he wants he'll have to do the same thing initially. I think Bohannon will struggle reading defenses and throwing. Just like the others will have trouble reading defenses and running. If Morris wants a Watson or Jackson type of QB that means he wants a QB capable of running for at least 600-700+ yards. I don't see Jones nor Noland ever being able to do that. If he wants a QB to throw for 2500-3000 yards not sure Bohannon can do that, at least not until he's an upperclassman.

[Pig in the Pokey]

In a thread in MMQB someone posted that during his time at Clemson CCM offered 4 qbs,
Deshaun Watson, Chad Kelly, Kelly Bryant, and Lamar Jackson. He seems to be an excellent evaluator of QB talent.

That being said let us keep thid in mind when we make statements like "CCM must get Bohannon.  If he doesnt then ____________" 

While we all look and see that Mr Bohannon, in our eyes, seems to be a special player CCM seems to have a pretty good eye for D1 level upper tier to elite QB talent. Let's let him work and trust the system.

that was me.

we need to trust his eyes over our own eyes.

[Pig in the Pokey]

There is also a very real possibility Noland will never set foot on campus.  A lot of speculation that he could be drafted fairly high in the MLB draft.

also- say he does come here. HE IS PLAYING BASEBALL. Which means he'll never be at spring practice for football. He wont be the starter here....