Will Alex Collins go early in the draft?

[SportsLife]

Or Hunter Henry?

Evin Demirel offers his thoughts on the likable running back, plus a poll...

http://www.sportinglifearkansas.com/evin-demirel-blame-alex-collins/

[TomasPistola]

Nice plug for your site.

[Inhogswetrust]

Who the heck is Evin Demirel...........

[bennyl08]

Hunter goes first, but Collins or Tretola go second and I'm leaning Collins.

[TomasPistola]

Who the heck is Evin Demirel...........

Vin Ascolese's alter ego.

[SportsLife]

Hunter goes first, but Collins or Tretola go second and I'm leaning Collins.

I agree with you. Collins probably early 3rd? I remember the morning Kirkland signed he said he was looking forward to being a Razorback for 3 years.

[ricepig]

Who the heck is Evin Demirel...........

The dude that came up with the hand tool with 50 something attachments???










Yes, I know the real name.

[acey33]

he will go somewhere in the late 2nd or early 3rd Round and be a productive RB whatever team picks him

[hawginbigd1]

HH- late 1st, early 2nd
DK- 3rd round
AC- late 3rd or 4th round
ST- 4th round
Jwill- 5th round
BA- 6th round
my predictions, AC probably worth 2nd round but not these days in the NFL!

[gmarv]

thanks sportslife for the link.

[WizardofhOgZ]

I have no idea why, but in a recent (non-homo) dream I had, Brandon Allen was selected by the Chargers late in the draft, where he backed up Rivers for 2-3 years and then took over.

Guess we'll see in 3-4 months.

[SooiecidetillNuttgone]

From the feel I'm getting, AC should be the dominate RB after Zeke and Henry.

On the other hand, Henry has shown that he can dominant a game.

[Cavtastic Voyage]

I have no idea why, but in a recent (non-homo) dream I had, Brandon Allen was selected by the Chargers late in the draft, where he backed up Rivers for 2-3 years and then took over.

Guess we'll see in 3-4 months.

Do you have so many "homo" dreams that you must clarify between dream types?

[WizardofhOgZ]

Do you have so many "homo" dreams that you must clarify between dream types?

Ha ha ha . . . no . . . I just know this crowd.  Thought I'd get ahead of the predictable questions/comments . . .

Thanks for confirming.

[SooiecidetillNuttgone]

This draft should have numerous selectees that will dominant their position.
They will be dominate for years to come.

[code red]

Middle 2nd round....that my observation.

[hoggusamoungus]

Who the heck is Evin Demirel...........

The guy who isn't enough after waking up from surgery?  I mean the pain was so bad evin demirel didn't help. 

[SooiecidetillNuttgone]

Not just anyone can dominant a draft like that, considering how the RB position has been downgraded.

Yep, he is a dominate player.

[texas tush hog]

Would not surprise me at all to see a team take him in the second round, at worst early third. Emmitt Smith type back.

[Biggus Piggus]

Summary of the article (which actually originates on Arkansas Fight), so you don't have to click on it:

Repeated the rumor that Collins got a pre-draft grade of Round 2-3.

High-level recap of his entire Arkansas career from recruitment to end.

Nothing to indicate where Collins might actually go in the draft, or anything else you really need to read.

[Biggus Piggus]

BTW - a player who dominates is "dominant." Or, more crudely, "dominating."

There's no such thing as a "dominate" player. Unless you are playing something I don't want to know about.

[The Hogfather]

I hope he DOMINANTS!

[smb]

If I have to guess it will be the third round and maybe in to the 4th. I just think that their are a lot of teams that need players in various other positions. As far as Hunter goes I think he will go first and probably go in to the 2nd round.

[WizardofhOgZ]

BTW - a player who dominates is "dominant." Or, more crudely, "dominating."

There's no such thing as a "dominate" player. Unless you are playing something I don't want to know about.

LOL . . . you're in the wrong thread, "brah" . . .

http://www.hogville.net/yabbse/index.php?topic=606925.msg10119493#msg10119493

[Biggus Piggus]

LOL . . . you're in the wrong thread, "brah" . . .

http://www.hogville.net/yabbse/index.php?topic=606925.msg10119493#msg10119493

Losing battle.

[The Hogfather]

Losing battle.

Not just losing, getting dominanted.

[hvsupastar]

I just have a feeling Collins isn't go to run the fastest 40 time and they he will drop to 4th round or later. 

[Virgil]

CBS has him listed as the 3rd best RB.  Take it for what its worth.

[threeNout]

I just have a feeling Collins isn't go to run the fastest 40 time and they he will drop to 4th round or later. 

a lot more to it than just the 40 time, I get the feeling after the cone drills and such tests on lateral movement, he could really help himself.

He could fall to the 4th, but it wouldn't even surprise me to see him be the 1st or 2nd back taken, even ahead of D. Henry.

At one point in the NCG, when Clemson's D was really getting penetration, it was pointed out that Henry, being tall and a long strider, had trouble avoiding defenders in the backfield.

Collins isn't the fastest or most powerful back in the draft, but he has enough speed and power, and I think he may have the best vision, instincts, lateral moves and durability than anyone else, plus I bet he gives a great interview and does well on the Wonderlick.

we'll see how it all plays out.

[The Hogfather]

If he drops to 4th round or below, someone is going to get a major steal.  To me, he is the perfect NFL RB.

[k.c.hawg]

40 times for running backs in the NFL these days are almost irrelevant if they pass the eye test. If a guy that gets in space can turn it into a 30 yard gain that is all they are looking for.

From the 2015 draft there was one guy that broke 4.5. Several guys from 4.57 to 4.62 had impacts on their NFL teams this year. The couple of guys from the 2014 that have been impact RB's,  Freeman 4.50  J Hill 4.62. No real speedsters in 2013.

Whatever the case, the running backs were still plenty impressive at the combine, even if those who are noted speedsters didn't post record-breaking times or anything of the sort. Michigan State's Jeremy Langford posted the fastest 40-yard dash of all running backs at the combine, completing the drill in 4.42 seconds. He was the only running back to dip below 4.5 seconds, though there were plenty in that range.

If he runs a 4.55 to 4.6 his speed or lack there of will have zero bearing on his draft position unless some GM is channeling Al Davis.

Now granted if a guy with his vision, balance and cutting ability also ran a 4.35, he would be a first rounder for some team but we've all known that wasn't the case. There is no reason why he cannot be a fine NFL back. He is really very close to being the proto type back for todays NFL

[SooiecidetillNuttgone]

I hope he DOMINANTS!

+ a gazillion. Finlly someone who finally understands how to be an uneducated hick.

[WizardofhOgZ]

I agree 100% with this post.  I've predicted that Alex will run a 4.5x at the combine, while simultaneously saying that that is plenty fast to be an effective NFL running back.  In fact, that's the exact kind of speed that one Emmitt Smith had.  Not "elite" speed (DMac, Bo Jackson, Gayle Sayers, Reggie Bush, A.P.), but more than adequate.  Seems like I remember Emmitt popping several 40-50-60 yard house calls throughout his career.  Why?  Because of his vision and feet - and those are the same traits that are Alex's best skills. 

Barring injury, I think A.C. will have a "fine" NFL career - 6-8 years in the League, 4-5k yards, YPC of 4.0 or greater.  Could be a lot more, depending on the team he goes go, their style of offense and who else is on their roster.

Not as sure about JWill.  That is to say that, while I've never been very convicted one way or the other as to which of the two was a 'better" back for us, he's not as easy for me to project into the NFL.  For one reason, it's very hard to know how he will react to this injury.  But, assuming he's over that, I think he can and probably will be an effective back, but I think the style of offense is more important to him than it is to AC.  He's a more downhill runner, although he does have the speed to make the corner from time to time.  And he has more of a "beast mode" (generally) than AC does.

I'll be following both of them closely as they participate in summer camps and then next Fall.  Both have been great ambassadors for the U of A, and I expect they will continue to do so.  Along with Hunter, and Tretola, along with the guys we already have in the League (DMac, Jason Peters, Knile, Mallett, Philon, etc.) we are about to get some major visibility for recruiting purposes.

40 times for running backs in the NFL these days are almost irrelevant if they pass the eye test. If a guy that gets in space can turn it into a 30 yard gain that is all they are looking for.

From the 2015 draft there was one guy that broke 4.5. Several guys from 4.57 to 4.62 had impacts on their NFL teams this year. The couple of guys from the 2014 that have been impact RB's,  Freeman 4.50  J Hill 4.62. No real speedsters in 2013.

Whatever the case, the running backs were still plenty impressive at the combine, even if those who are noted speedsters didn't post record-breaking times or anything of the sort. Michigan State's Jeremy Langford posted the fastest 40-yard dash of all running backs at the combine, completing the drill in 4.42 seconds. He was the only running back to dip below 4.5 seconds, though there were plenty in that range.

If he runs a 4.55 to 4.6 his speed or lack there of will have zero bearing on his draft position unless some GM is channeling Al Davis.

Now granted if a guy with his vision, balance and cutting ability also ran a 4.35, he would be a first rounder for some team but we've all known that wasn't the case. There is no reason why he cannot be a fine NFL back. He is really very close to being the proto type back for todays NFL

[deedster84]

If DK is projected as a guard in the NFL, I see him and Tretola both going in 3rd early 4th. Picked close together. Think Alex goes late second and HH late 1st. BA in the 5th. Jwill late 4th early 5th round.

[MJ2]

HH in 2nd round.    Collins 4th rounder.

[RazorNick]

Dallas takes HH in the first round and AC in the second. I hope so anyway. HH is the next Jason Witten, and everybody knows how often Dallas picks a TE. Seems as though they draft one every year

[lasthog]

a lot more to it than just the 40 time, I get the feeling after the cone drills and such tests on lateral movement, he could really help himself.

He could fall to the 4th, but it wouldn't even surprise me to see him be the 1st or 2nd back taken, even ahead of D. Henry.

At one point in the NCG, when Clemson's D was really getting penetration, it was pointed out that Henry, being tall and a long strider, had trouble avoiding defenders in the backfield.

Collins isn't the fastest or most powerful back in the draft, but he has enough speed and power, and I think he may have the best vision, instincts, lateral moves and durability than anyone else, plus I bet he gives a great interview and does well on the Wonderlick.

we'll see how it all plays out.

Bet:  O'Henry goes in later round than Collins. He will not overpower NFL defenders nor out run them. Also, no holes big enough to drive a truck through will be provided.

Great physical speciman. Long strides, subtle rather than sharp cuts and change of direction will prevent him from being a great  NFL back.

Apparently a fine young man that I wish well, but his flaws will be exposed openly at the next level, and are seen by experts already.

But I actually know I may not have a clue. Just pulling for our guy.

[hawginbigd1]

Dallas takes HH in the first round and AC in the second. I hope so anyway. HH is the next Jason Witten, and everybody knows how often Dallas picks a TE. Seems as though they draft one every year

Dallas is not spending the number 4 pick in the draft on HH! Now at pick 36 you may have something! Witten needs a replacement now! I think Dallas is taking the QB from Cal in the first round!

[kodiakisland]

Who the heck is Evin Demirel...........

Robert Shield's protégé

[Nipsey Mussle]

Summary of the article (which actually originates on Arkansas Fight), so you don't have to click on it:

Repeated the rumor that Collins got a pre-draft grade of Round 2-3.

High-level recap of his entire Arkansas career from recruitment to end.

Nothing to indicate where Collins might actually go in the draft, or anything else you really need to read.

Thank you... Biggus:1   
                  Shameless and equally desperate attempt to get site traffic: 0

[ChitownHawg]

I have no idea why, but in a recent (non-homo) dream I had, Brandon Allen was selected by the Chargers late in the draft, where he backed up Rivers for 2-3 years and then took over.

Guess we'll see in 3-4 months.

The fact you quantified the dream does that mean you have gay dreams? Otherwise why mention it. Just sayin. 

[ChitownHawg]

Do you have so many "homo" dreams that you must clarify between dream types?

I see I'm not the only smart a$$. 

[ChitownHawg]

Summary of the article (which actually originates on Arkansas Fight), so you don't have to click on it:

Repeated the rumor that Collins got a pre-draft grade of Round 2-3.

High-level recap of his entire Arkansas career from recruitment to end.

Nothing to indicate where Collins might actually go in the draft, or anything else you really need to read.

Yep and someone needs to tell Arkansas Sporting Life if you are going to use someone else's article then give them the darn credit. This jerk copied and only provided a "read more" link which is when you find out it is an Arkansas Fight article.

If you are going to blog then know how to credit other people when you use their material. 

[LZH]

I see I'm not the only smart a$$. 

Nope, I'm still here.

And for what it's worth, running backs these days aren't being asked to carry the ball 25 times a game for 150 yards like the days when Campbell, Peyton, and Barry Sanders we're rolling up big yardage. Like someone mentioned above, if he can turn a 1 or 2 yard gain into a 10 or 15 yard gain, he will be doing his job.