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Lanny

"It's only a game if you win but if you lose it's a stinking waste of time."

Al Bundy

PowderedToastMan

Plus, they have received several votes in both polls.  Not too shabby.  They accepted a bid to the GoDaddy.com Bowl.
WOOOOOOOO PIG SOOIE!!!

 

Albert Einswine

Lanny, in a "what if" scenario let's say I hit the powerball jackpot... what would it take to buy Hogville from you?
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RebelliousHog

Quote from: AbeFroman on November 20, 2011, 12:30:14 pm
Plus, they have received several votes in both polls.  Not too shabby.  They accepted a bid to the GoDaddy.com Bowl.

Is Danica Patrick going to be 1/2 nekkid at the game? If so it's well worth going.
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elksnort

It's a great year for college football in the State of Arkansas!
I'm enjoying it. Hopefully others as well

TheShow

Trophy to be delivered by Danica Patrick and friends!  To see what happens next, go to GoDaddy.com............

Hootiethehog

when was the last time asu won 10 games? or 11 for that matter?

and who is the likely oppponent in the bowl? is it the winner of the mac or just anyone from the mac?
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It is simply an old nickname I picked up 20 years ago with "thehog" added on to it.

ErieHog

I am still hoping that they win their bowl game, and sneak into the Top 25.

Then, if Auburn were to lose and we were to emerge triumphant over Alabama, we could say that football in the state of Arkansas was definitively better than football in Alabama, top to bottom.
No cause, ever, in the history of all mankind, has produced more cold-blooded tyrants, more slaughtered innocents, and more orphans than socialism with power. It surpassed, exponentially, all other systems of production in turning out the dead. The bodies are all around us. And here is the problem: No one talks about them. No one honors them. No one does penance for them. No one has committed suicide for having been an apologist for those who did this to them. No one pays for them. No one is hunted down to account for them. It is exactly what Solzhenitsyn foresaw in The Gulag Archipelago: "No, no one would have to answer. No one would be looked into." Until that happens, there is no "after socialism."


Hootiethehog

the giddiness of razorbacks is at such a level right now that we can share some of the happy feelings with one of the best asu teams they've had since coming to division 1.

since there is no danger of the two ever playing, i don't see the harm in wishing the red wolves well and enjoying their success too
Please note that my screen name is not an endorsement of any former coach at the University of Arkansas, nor does it mean I am in cahoots with the group that produces a yearly high school football magazine.
It is simply an old nickname I picked up 20 years ago with "thehog" added on to it.

ark30inf

Quote from: Hootiethehog on November 20, 2011, 01:07:07 pm
the giddiness of razorbacks is at such a level right now that we can share some of the happy feelings with one of the best asu teams they've had since coming to division 1.

since there is no danger of the two ever playing, i don't see the harm in wishing the red wolves well and enjoying their success too

And vice-versa from us at ASU.

Also UCA made the FCS playoffs in only their second year.  That is not an easy accomplishment.

TNhogfan

Quote from: Hootiethehog on November 20, 2011, 12:54:40 pm
when was the last time asu won 10 games? or 11 for that matter?

and who is the likely oppponent in the bowl? is it the winner of the mac or just anyone from the mac?
1986 when the Indians lost to Ga Southern in the 1AA championship game - went 12-2-1.  Before that it was '75, when they went 11-0 and Hogs went 10-2 and whipped UGA in Cotton Bowl.  ASU did not get an invite to any bowl, which led to Southland Conference creating Independance Bowl and to ASU making the stupid 'How Long will they Run' bumper stickers.

Hootiethehog

i didn't realize it was as recent as 86. when did they make the move up to fbs? i thought they had been there a while.

and i can't believe i forgot about uca. this is a good year for sports in the state of arkansas.
Please note that my screen name is not an endorsement of any former coach at the University of Arkansas, nor does it mean I am in cahoots with the group that produces a yearly high school football magazine.
It is simply an old nickname I picked up 20 years ago with "thehog" added on to it.

 

clutch

Been a great sports year for me. Cardinals win the World Series, Razorbacks are more than likely #3 in the country, and it looks like ASU will win 10 games.

BR

Way to go ASU, saw this morning they will be playing Ohio in the GoDaddy.com bowl.
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hair of the hog

Hard to root for ASwho when you live in NEA and have to listen to the "fan base" run down the Hogs instead of rooting for their own squad
Go sell crazy somewhere else , we are all stocked up around here

auburnhater

Who cares? You think the Auburn board is happy for Bama being #2? Maybe it's time we start playing these losers in the Rock once a year.

Ftsmithmike

Quote from: Hootiethehog on November 20, 2011, 01:18:11 pm
i didn't realize it was as recent as 86. when did they make the move up to fbs? i thought they had been there a while.

and i can't believe i forgot about uca. this is a good year for sports in the state of arkansas.

Recent? I guess it's relative. Are you a 100 year old man?
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chiefsfan

Quote from: hair of the hog on November 20, 2011, 01:25:24 pm
Hard to root for ASwho when you live in NEA and have to listen to the "fan base" run down the Hogs instead of rooting for their own squad

NEA Hog fans and ASU fans will never get along.  The hog fans dont understand why ASU fans cant support Arkansas, and the ASU fans dont understand why the hog fans wont support ASU.

As for the rest of the state, they two fan bases are able to coexist quite harmoniously, as long as no one starts bringing up the "policy."
Honor and Integrity no longer exist in the world of college football.  It is only filled with liar's cheater's, and traitors.

ark30inf

Quote from: chiefsfan on November 20, 2011, 01:31:20 pm
NEA Hog fans and ASU fans will never get along.  The hog fans dont understand why ASU fans cant support Arkansas, and the ASU fans dont understand why the hog fans wont support ASU.

As for the rest of the state, they two fan bases are able to coexist quite harmoniously, as long as no one starts bringing up the "policy."
Quote from: hair of the hog on November 20, 2011, 01:25:24 pm
Hard to root for ASwho when you live in NEA and have to listen to the "fan base" run down the Hogs instead of rooting for their own squad

It is primarily a battle between NEA jerks about who will be the biggest NEA jerks.  I think the battle is tied at the moment.

It has little to do with the rest of the state or the rest of the two schools fanbases.  It really doesn't even have much to do with the two schools.

As for me, I am pretty darn happy about the situation for UA, ASU, and UCA because I'm an Arkansan.


Albert Einswine

Quote from: chiefsfan on November 20, 2011, 01:31:20 pm
NEA Hog fans and ASU fans will never get along.  The hog fans dont understand why ASU fans cant support Arkansas, and the ASU fans dont understand why the hog fans wont support ASU.

As for the rest of the state, they two fan bases are able to coexist quite harmoniously, as long as no one starts bringing up the "policy."


No, we don't care if ASU fans don't support the Hogs, we get sick and tired of hearing ASU fans degrade the Hogs with vitriol in our workplaces, churches, etc...  I moved away from NEA 7 years ago and still get to see the same ASU types doing the same ol', same ol' on social media every day.
"Funny thing, I become a hell of a good fisherman when the trout decide to commit suicide." ~ John D. Voelker

ErieHog

Quote from: Hootiethehog on November 20, 2011, 01:18:11 pm
i didn't realize it was as recent as 86. when did they make the move up to fbs? i thought they had been there a while.

and i can't believe i forgot about uca. this is a good year for sports in the state of arkansas.


IIRC, 1994 was ASU's first season competing in FBS football.  My memory may be off, though.
No cause, ever, in the history of all mankind, has produced more cold-blooded tyrants, more slaughtered innocents, and more orphans than socialism with power. It surpassed, exponentially, all other systems of production in turning out the dead. The bodies are all around us. And here is the problem: No one talks about them. No one honors them. No one does penance for them. No one has committed suicide for having been an apologist for those who did this to them. No one pays for them. No one is hunted down to account for them. It is exactly what Solzhenitsyn foresaw in The Gulag Archipelago: "No, no one would have to answer. No one would be looked into." Until that happens, there is no "after socialism."

bigpigonthehill

How the hell did we wind up like this? Why weren't we able to see the signs that we missed? And try to turn the tables. Nothing is wrong, just as long as you know that someday I will. Some day, Some how. Gonna make it alright but not right now. I know you're wondering when.

Hootiethehog

by recent  i meant i thought it had been longer ago than it has been that we were dominant. 86 isn't all that long ago unless you were born in the 90s.

for me a long time ago was a time that i don't remember and since i was 9 in 1986 it doesn't seem that long ago to me
Please note that my screen name is not an endorsement of any former coach at the University of Arkansas, nor does it mean I am in cahoots with the group that produces a yearly high school football magazine.
It is simply an old nickname I picked up 20 years ago with "thehog" added on to it.

 

ark30inf

Quote from: Albert Einswine on November 20, 2011, 01:37:13 pm

No, we don't care if ASU fans don't support the Hogs, we get sick and tired of hearing ASU fans degrade the Hogs with vitriol in our workplaces, churches, etc...  I moved away from NEA 7 years ago and still get to see the same ASU types doing the same ol', same ol' on social media every day.

Frankly, UA jerks and ASU jerks can jerk together.  They are both minorities of their respective fan bases.  As an ASU alum and being from NEA I don't know a single one of these people in my personal ASU circles.  Last night on the phone and internet we were talking primarily about ASU, but we also talked about UA BCSNCG chances, and also the potential of UCA in the FCS playoffs.

I also work in Central Arkansas and do not personally know a single Hog fan who is a jerk about ASU and who has not been supportive.

The alleged "hate" between the two fanbases is way overblown...usually by a few NEA trolls from both sides on the internet.

Albert Einswine

Quote from: ark30inf on November 20, 2011, 01:49:41 pm
Frankly, UA jerks and ASU jerks can jerk together.  They are both minorities of their respective fan bases.  As an ASU alum and being from NEA I don't know a single one of these people in my personal ASU circles.  Last night on the phone and internet we were talking primarily about ASU, but we also talked about UA BCSNCG chances, and also the potential of UCA in the FCS playoffs.

I also work in Central Arkansas and do not personally know a single Hog fan who is a jerk about ASU and who has not been supportive.

The alleged "hate" between the two fanbases is way overblown...usually by a few NEA trolls from both sides on the internet.



All I can draw from is my own experience and it is rife with ASU fans spewing hate.  Turned me from being a teen who went to their games and cheered them on to a detractor of their program.

You can say it isn't so, but all the true die-hard ASU fans I know are equally as die-hard Hog haters.  The two things seem to go hand in hand.
"Funny thing, I become a hell of a good fisherman when the trout decide to commit suicide." ~ John D. Voelker

ErieHog

Correction; they joined D1A as an independent in 1992.   The FBS designation didn't come until after the NCAA changed the name of D1A.
No cause, ever, in the history of all mankind, has produced more cold-blooded tyrants, more slaughtered innocents, and more orphans than socialism with power. It surpassed, exponentially, all other systems of production in turning out the dead. The bodies are all around us. And here is the problem: No one talks about them. No one honors them. No one does penance for them. No one has committed suicide for having been an apologist for those who did this to them. No one pays for them. No one is hunted down to account for them. It is exactly what Solzhenitsyn foresaw in The Gulag Archipelago: "No, no one would have to answer. No one would be looked into." Until that happens, there is no "after socialism."

ark30inf

Quote from: Albert Einswine on November 20, 2011, 02:04:31 pm

You can say it isn't so, but all the true die-hard ASU fans I know are equally as die-hard Hog haters.  The two things seem to go hand in hand.

As a fan of both programs, that is not my personal experience.  Everyone's experience can be different though.

It seems clear to me that the worst of it though is in NEA between other people in NEA.  As a Northeast Arkansan myself I wish they would just go ahead and take each other out...or get themselves a room.

PorcineSublime

Congrats to the Red Wolves. Maybe they can win their bowl, we win ours, and UCA goes deep in the FCS playoffs. Great times for AR FB.
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usnavyhogfan

considering we never play each other and probably never will, whats the harm in wishing success for these other teams and vice versa?
The dream is free, the journey is not.

elksnort

Quote from: hair of the hog on November 20, 2011, 01:25:24 pm
Hard to root for ASwho when you live in NEA and have to listen to the "fan base" run down the Hogs instead of rooting for their own squad
Hang around some more intelligent people. 

elksnort

Quote from: bigpigonthehill on November 20, 2011, 01:42:28 pm
Is this a red wolves forum ??? ???
No, but the owner of this message board started the thread , just so you know. 

ark30inf

Quote from: usnavyhogfan on November 20, 2011, 03:24:32 pm
considering we never play each other and probably never will, whats the harm in wishing success for these other teams and vice versa?

Yep.  I am an ASU alum and have been a fan of ASU since '67.  In '78 my family became Razorback fans before the Orange Bowl.  My dad (also an ASU alum) was impressed with the Razorbacks willingly going into that game short-handed and enforcing their own rules.  He said any program that acted that way was representing Arkansas well and deserved support and would be rewarded.  He was right.  UA, ASU, and UCA are all representing us well right now.

ocsm158

November 20, 2011, 03:40:56 pm #33 Last Edit: November 20, 2011, 03:43:00 pm by ocsm158
Quote from: ark30inf on November 20, 2011, 01:49:41 pm
Frankly, UA jerks and ASU jerks can jerk together.  They are both minorities of their respective fan bases.  As an ASU alum and being from NEA I don't know a single one of these people in my personal ASU circles.  Last night on the phone and internet we were talking primarily about ASU, but we also talked about UA BCSNCG chances, and also the potential of UCA in the FCS playoffs.

I also work in Central Arkansas and do not personally know a single Hog fan who is a jerk about ASU and who has not been supportive.

The alleged "hate" between the two fanbases is way overblown...usually by a few NEA trolls from both sides on the internet.

I also went to ASU and was there in 1970 when they went 11-0 and was the NCAA small college national champ. Don't know if any of you remember Bill Bergey, linebacker for Philadelphia Eagles, he played on that team, FWIW.

Seminole Indian

Quote from: Albert Einswine on November 20, 2011, 01:37:13 pm

No, we don't care if ASU fans don't support the Hogs, we get sick and tired of hearing ASU fans degrade the Hogs with vitriol in our workplaces, churches, etc...  I moved away from NEA 7 years ago and still get to see the same ASU types doing the same ol', same ol' on social media every day.
Not sure what an ASU type is but I do not have a problem with the fact that some ASU fans will only support ASU and some Razorback fans will only support the Razorbacks or that most support both.

I think that most people here realize that those posters  who try to imply that all NEA ASU fans hate the Razorbacks are liars and leave it at that.

Off subject but looks like you guys are going to be the center of the college football universe for a few days. Don't go and get a bighead as a result of all the attention.
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Seminole Indian

November 20, 2011, 03:55:48 pm #35 Last Edit: November 20, 2011, 03:57:57 pm by Seminole Indian
Quote from: elksnort on November 20, 2011, 03:33:31 pm
No, but the owner of this message board started the thread , just so you know.
Tells me that the owner of this board , like most Razorback fans is a class act. The rest don't really matter.
"In truth, knowledge is a great and very useful quality; those who despise it give evidence enough of their stupidity. Yet I do not set its value at that extreme measure that some attribute to it." - Michel de Montaigne

ark30inf

Quote from: Seminole Indian on November 20, 2011, 03:55:48 pm
Tells me that the owner of this board , like most Razorback fans are a class act. The rest don't really matter.

When ASU went to the New Orleans Bowl we got a lot of support on this board and it was appreciated.  I frankly don't care what anyone thinks, I'm a fan of both programs, and all Arkansas sports.

Landshark

Freeze is one heck of a coach and I do hope that he gets some consideration for the Ole Miss job.

Albert Einswine

November 20, 2011, 04:40:16 pm #38 Last Edit: November 20, 2011, 04:42:28 pm by Albert Einswine
I remember when ASU went to the New Orleans bowl and a group of their fans used the stage as an opportunity to get their signs on television chiding the Razorbacks for having a losing season and not making a bowl game.
"Funny thing, I become a hell of a good fisherman when the trout decide to commit suicide." ~ John D. Voelker

Johnny America

Arkansas State...oh yeah, I still don't care about them.
God is not real.

HogCzar1

Ok, a couple points.

First, ASU deserves to be congratulated on their success this year. Freeze has done an excellent job. They have had some very good players recruited by Steve Roberts, and have been the beneficiary of a down year in the Sun Belt.

There are, however, more people in NEA than many know who are extremely anti-UA. Many of them cannot afford to speak up that loudly, but I have seen it exist personally. And, there are some in statewide political positions of note that do hold these feelings.

Today's Jonesboro Sun reports that Dean Lee, ASU AD, now states that ASU is one of the nation's top 25 football programs. Yes, thats what he said. Not just a top 25 team this year, but rather top 25 program. That statement speaks for itself in terms of lack of perspective.

Yes, there are those on both sides who are extreme against the other school. But there are far more true zealots on the pro-ASU side than the pro-UA side. A prime example is when the women played each other a couple years ago in JBR. Many of you will know what I am talking about.




tennhawg

 Quit the bitching, ASU is an Arkansas school that is having a good year with their football program. If you don't like it why even respond and try to re-open some old wound. Arkansas football is on the rise in the whole state. If that ain't enough for some of ya, then you need to get off your high horses and show some respect. I doubt some of you can do either.

Albert Einswine

Quote from: tennhawg on November 20, 2011, 06:18:24 pm
Quit the bitching, ASU is an Arkansas school that is having a good year with their football program. If you don't like it why even respond and try to re-open some old wound. Arkansas football is on the rise in the whole state. If that ain't enough for some of ya, then you need to get off your high horses and show some respect. I doubt some of you can do either.


Get off your high horse.  I'm not an ASU fan.  I don't owe them anything, but I acknowledge they're having a great season.
"Funny thing, I become a hell of a good fisherman when the trout decide to commit suicide." ~ John D. Voelker

Seminole Indian

Quote from: HogCzar1 on November 20, 2011, 05:44:15 pm
Ok, a couple points.

First, ASU deserves to be congratulated on their success this year. Freeze has done an excellent job. They have had some very good players recruited by Steve Roberts, and have been the beneficiary of a down year in the Sun Belt.

There are, however, more people in NEA than many know who are extremely anti-UA. Many of them cannot afford to speak up that loudly, but I have seen it exist personally. And, there are some in statewide political positions of note that do hold these feelings.

Today's Jonesboro Sun reports that Dean Lee, ASU AD, now states that ASU is one of the nation's top 25 football programs. Yes, thats what he said. Not just a top 25 team this year, but rather top 25 program. That statement speaks for itself in terms of lack of perspective.

Yes, there are those on both sides who are extreme against the other school. But there are far more true zealots on the pro-ASU side than the pro-UA side. A prime example is when the women played each other a couple years ago in JBR. Many of you will know what I am talking about.
Opinions vary.
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Lanny

I have no problems pulling for Arkansas State or UCA.  Great year for the Big Three
"It's only a game if you win but if you lose it's a stinking waste of time."

Al Bundy

Albert Einswine

November 20, 2011, 06:38:03 pm #45 Last Edit: November 20, 2011, 06:40:35 pm by Albert Einswine
Read "Who's afraid of the big bad (red) wolves?" on Arkansas stAte's facebook wall and you'll learn that we're scared to play them, Frank is yellow and still calls the shots and that ASU would win 1 of 5 games if they were played, among other things.
"Funny thing, I become a hell of a good fisherman when the trout decide to commit suicide." ~ John D. Voelker

ocsm158

Quote from: Lanny on November 20, 2011, 06:28:32 pm
I have no problems pulling for Arkansas State or UCA.  Great year for the Big Three
Same here, neither pose a threat to the Hogs.

ark30inf

Quote from: Albert Einswine on November 20, 2011, 06:38:03 pm
Read "Who's afraid of the big bad (red) wolves?" on Arkansas stAte's facebook wall and you'll learn that we're scared to play them, Frank is yellow and still calls the shots and that ASU would win 1 of 5 games if they were played, among other things.

Why do you care what some ASU fans say?  You are #3 in the BCS and are very likely to get a slot in the BCSNCG.  I guarantee you that Alabama fans are not giving a flying flip what Troy fans are saying this week or LSU worrying about ULL fans comments.

Here I am.  An ASU alum and fan who is pulling for the Hogs to win it all.  I will be sitting in front of the tv agonizing on every play.  Why do I not matter?  Why are you not judging my program by ME instead of them?  Why do those ASU fans trump me and my family and friends in your mind? 

I don't expect to change your mind, I just think its all overblown.  I am going to root for UA, ASU, and UCA and people can think what they want.



Albert Einswine

Quote from: ark30inf on November 20, 2011, 07:19:46 pm
Why do you care what some ASU fans say?  You are #3 in the BCS and are very likely to get a slot in the BCSNCG.  I guarantee you that Alabama fans are not giving a flying flip what Troy fans are saying this week or LSU worrying about ULL fans comments.

Here I am.  An ASU alum and fan who is pulling for the Hogs to win it all.  I will be sitting in front of the tv agonizing on every play.  Why do I not matter?  Why are you not judging my program by ME instead of them?  Why do those ASU fans trump me and my family and friends in your mind? 

I don't expect to change your mind, I just think its all overblown.  I am going to root for UA, ASU, and UCA and people can think what they want.



If that works for you, that's great, enjoy!  Seriously, enjoy it and soak it all in.  If you had loyalty only to ASU and concentrated on supporting them only, I'd tell you the same thing.

I only have loyalty to one team in Arkansas and don't really care about the other teams in the state to be honest.  My only issue with ASU has been my exposure to the worst element of the their fan base, the ones so obsessed with downing my team that I really began to enjoy ASU's failure and the angst it caused that element.  The more ASU failed the more that element blamed Frank and the UofA for their problems.

That "How long will the Hogs run?" campaign really torqued me also.  I was really irritated when I discovered that ASU's administration was pushing it.  I thought that was incredibly bush league for a university.

My disdain for ASU has subsided somewhat since I got away from that crowd, but I don't support the program and I really don't like seeing them propped up on a Razorback message board over and over again.

But you seem like a class act so I don't have a beef with you.
"Funny thing, I become a hell of a good fisherman when the trout decide to commit suicide." ~ John D. Voelker

josh_sec33

I heard a great ASU fan hope that they'd play Arkansas in a bowl game (THIS YEAR) and ASU would come down and win it with a field goal at the gun, and Broyles would come down to midfield and die, and when they did the autopsy right there, they'd find a small black lump of coal for a heart. and that the legislature WANTED the two teams to play, and the Hogs would have to give them respect if they won, and Beebe would make them play as a final executive order before he stepped down from the governor's mansion.

I was speechless. I just shook my head and walked away. There was no point in getting in a fight with that.
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