A victory for Nutt Huggers (With Statistics)

[JigNPig]

1990 – 1997 (8 years prior to Nutt) :
Over all record: 38-51-2   
2 winning seasons, 1 tie, 5 losing seasons
Embarassing losses:  Rice, Baylor X 2, THE Citadel, SMU X 4
2 bowls with 0 victories

1998-2005 ( Nutt's first 8 years)
   Over all record: 57-40
   5 winning seasons, 1 tie, 2 losing seasons
   Embarassing losses: Kentucky 2002, Vanderbilt 2005
   6 bowl games with 2 victories

Long Live Houston Nutt!  thank you for the excitement, the enthusiasm, and the improvement.
   
2006- 3-1 start for Nutt

[hogfansince1964]

Amen.

[Richard_white]

Don't forget UNLV

[Count_Porkula]

Coach Nutt has made great strides in rebuilding a program that was in tremendous disarray.

[JigNPig]

UNLV was in a bowl game and hardly compares to SMU X 4, The Citadel, Rice and Baylor X 2

[Richard_white]

UNLV was in a bowl game and hardly compares to SMU X 4, The Citadel, Rice and Baylor X 2

No but it was still embarrassing.  USC 70-17  USC 50-14  I also remember a Tennessee game that we were humiliated.  A Georgia rape in the SEC Championship game.

[BVhog]

Nice try, but the darkside doesn't care.  Many of them are willing to burn the program to the ground to get rid of HDN.  I's like to see him go, but not at the price some are willing to pay.

[Patch]

   Embarassing losses: Kentucky 2002, Vanderbilt 2005
   

You must be smoking some expensive stuff if you think those are the only two embarassing losses under Nutt.

[Sonofahog]

Don't forget the embarassing " I called that play brotha"  and "hit that line" from the band ladder and "hook em horns down" before the end of the game and "Paul Eells and dad blew the wind" and "I needed that,  they owed me that after last year".

Now that is some embarassing stuff.

[passinghog]

1998-2005 ( Nutt's first 8 years)
   Over all record: 57-40
   5 winning seasons, 1 tie, 2 losing seasons
   Embarassing losses: LSU 1999, Georgia 2000,Tennessee 2000, UNLV 2001(bowl game), Alabama 2002,  Kentucky 2002, 2002 SEC Championship game, Minnesota 2003, USC 2005, Vanderbilt 2005...Did I miss Any?
   6 bowl games with 2 victories

Thanks for the excitement.... ...

[Hawgon]

In the embarrassing losses talley you forgot:  UNLV, USCx2(one was the largest margin of defeat since 1917 and the other was the largest margin of defeat in Razorback Stadium), lost to a 3-8 LSU team that was so bad they had just fired their coach, Tennessee hung 60 some odd points on us, and there are many others that were embarrassing because they were on national television and our effort was so poor.  At least in the Ford years we were humiliated in virtual anonymity.

And the problem I have with your attitude is that you assume that the 90s were some sort of norm for Arkansas football and that we should be grateful to Nutt.  Those were the worst years in Arkansas football history.  It stands to reason that any competent coach could have done better than we did then.  And finally, the real question is not about what has happened in the last 8 years, but  instead, where are we heading now?  I for one don't think Nuttilicious can get us where we need to go.

[hogfansince1964]

the darkside doesn't care

Are the "darksiders" in danger of pushing their personal agenda ahead of support for the Razorback football team?  If so, that is very sad.

[RazorRaider]

1990 – 1997 (8 years prior to Nutt) :
Over all record: 38-51-2   
2 winning seasons, 1 tie, 5 losing seasons
Embarassing losses:  Rice, Baylor X 2, THE Citadel, SMU X 4
2 bowls with 0 victories

1998-2005 ( Nutt’s first 8 years)
   Over all record: 57-40
   5 winning seasons, 1 tie, 2 losing seasons
   Embarassing losses: Kentucky 2002, Vanderbilt 2005
   6 bowl games with 2 victories

Long Live Houston Nutt!  thank you for the excitement excrement,  the enthusiasm, and the improvement.
   
2006- 3-1 start for Nutt

Fixed that for you.

[Sao Ming]

All this proves is we have been pissed off since 1990...you guys included. 

[hoghearted]

the darkside doesn't care

Are the "darksiders" in danger of pushing their personal agenda ahead of support for the Razorback football team?  If so, that is very sad.

Their agenda IS support of the Razorback football team.  They want them to have a 'bettuh' coach.

[rightdp]

I don't consider myself a darksider by any means.  I agree.  HDN has brought us to a new level.  Problem is, he plateaued about 3 years ago.  Sometimes you just have to make a change.  Maybe I'm wrong...but I'm not.

[hogman64]

1990-1997........wasnt that the worst 8 years for arkansas football in the last 50 years.........if we compare all our coaches to that period we are going to have  a bunch of hall of fame coaches...............................................If Stan has a  bad year this coming year  and gets fired are we going to compare our next basketball coach to him, Nolan or Eddie........My feeling is I would rather he do a little better than just top Stan.......Lets shoot for a little higher standards than topping our worst memories..........

[Patch]

the darkside doesn't care

Are the "darksiders" in danger of pushing their personal agenda ahead of support for the Razorback football team?  If so, that is very sad.

Pot, Kettle, Black

[BVhog]

I don't disagree with that agenda, just the methods some are resorting too.  Burn it to the ground....
getting rid of HDN is ALL that matters.

[dj shanon "Notshavin" smeya]

1990 – 1997 (8 years prior to Nutt) :
Over all record: 38-51-2   
2 winning seasons, 1 tie, 5 losing seasons
Embarassing losses:  Rice, Baylor X 2, THE Citadel, SMU X 4
2 bowls with 0 victories

1998-2005 ( Nutt's first 8 years)
   Over all record: 57-40
   5 winning seasons, 1 tie, 2 losing seasons
   Embarassing losses: Kentucky 2002, Vanderbilt 2005
   6 bowl games with 2 victories

Long Live Houston Nutt!  thank you for the excitement, the enthusiasm, and the improvement.
   
2006- 3-1 start for Nutt

So what your saying is, the last 8 years weren't as bad as the 8 years before that...

I guess you probably never won anything you participated in growing up, huh?

It's ok.  There is a place for losers in our society.  You're special.

[Buster Hog]

Long Live Houston Nutt!  thank you for the excitement, the enthusiasm, and the improvement.
This would make a great T-shirt. 

[jabohog]

the darkside doesn't care

Are the "darksiders" in danger of pushing their personal agenda ahead of support for the Razorback football team?  If so, that is very sad.

Agenda? Are you kidding me? Were just fans. We have no agenda but to win games. As for the football team, we want what is best for them and that is a winning coach. What is your agenda? You point many fingers not to have many answers.

[JackJohnson]

I figured i would weigh in right before i put you on my ignore button.  Yes, HDN DID improve the program from the previous 7 years, HOWEVER he reached a plateau as to his ability to rise any higher.  Here are some coaches and programs who were in our situation, but found THE COACH to get them past that level HDN is NOT CAPABLE of getting us past...

LSU
With Saban
Year Won Lost Tied 
2004 9 3   
2003 13 1    (1st NC since 1958, despite all the "advantages" they have)
2002 8 5   
2001 10 3   
2000 8 4 

Pre Saban
Year Won Lost Tied 
1999 3 8   
1998 4 7   
1997 9 3   
1996 10 2   
1995 7 4 1   
1994 4 7   
1993 5 6   
1992 2 9   
1991 5 6   
1990 5 6   
1989 4 7 

Iowa
With Ferentz
Year Won Lost Tied
2005 7 5   
2004 10 2   
2003 10 3   
2002 11 2   
2001 7 5   
2000 3 9   
1999 1 10 

Pre Ferentz
Year Won Lost Tied 
1998 3 8   
1997 7 5   
1996 9 3   
1995 8 4   
1994 5 5 1   
1993 6 6   
1992 5 7 

USC
With Carroll
Year Won Lost Tied
2005 12 1   
2004 13 0   
2003 12 1    (1st NC in 20 years, despite all the "advantages" they have)
2002 11 2   
2001 6 6

Pre Carroll
Year Won Lost Tied
2000 5 7   
1999 6 6   
1998 8 5   
1997 6 5   
1996 6 6   

Oklahoma
With Stoops
Year Won Lost Tied 
2005 8 4   
2004 12 1   
2003 12 2   
2002 12 2   
2001 11 2   
2000 13 0    (1st NC in 15 years, despite all the "advantages" they have)
1999 7 5 

Pre Stoops                         
Year Won Lost Tied 
1998 5 6   
1997 4 8   
1996 3 8   
1995 5 5 1   
1994 6 6   
1993 9 3   
1992 5 4

Cal
With Tedford
Year Win Loss Tie
2005 8 4   
2004 10 2   
2003 8 6   
2002 7 5

Pre Tedford
Year Win Loss Tie   
2001 1 10   
2000 3 8   
1999 4 7   
1998 5 6   
1997 3 8   
1996 6 6   
1995 3 8   
1994 4 7   
1993 9 4   
1992 4 7   
1991 10 2   
1990 7 4 1   
1989 4 7   
1988 5 5 1   
1987 3 6 2   
1986 2 9   
1985 4 7   
1984 2 9   
1983 5 5 1   
1982 7 4   
1981 2 9   
1980 3 8 

Oregon
With Bellotti
Year Win Loss Tie
2005 10 2   
2004 5 6   
2003 8 5   
2002 7 6   
2001 11 1   
2000 10 2   
1999 9 3   
1998 8 4   
1997 7 5   
1996 6 5   
1995 9 3 

Pre Bellotti
Year Win Loss Tie
1994 9 4   
1993 5 6   
1992 6 6   
1991 3 8   
1990 8 4   
1989 8 4   
1988 6 6   
1987 6 5   
1986 5 6   
1985 5 6   
1984 6 5   
1983 4 6 1   
1982 2 8 1   
1981 2 9 

[RazorRaider]

I think a picture of a big middle finger with the words "Houston for all you do this one's for you" on it would make a better t-shirt.

[Hogster18]

Why do people always compare Nutt's first eight years with the preceding eight years? Why not lump them together and compare that 16-year stretch to the 16 years before that?

1990-2005
95-92-2 (.502) overall
7 winning seasons
No 10 win seasons

1974-1989
136-49-5 (.716) overall
15 winning seasons
Six 10 win seasons

Very simple.

SEC vs SWC. No comparison, any way you spin it.

[BVhog]

Exactly...Burn it to the ground.

[MF]

Don't forget that his 1st two years were with Ford's players and the 3 years that we were successful just b/c of the pure athleticism of Matt Jones which even though successful (by most standards even mine) showed the lack of organization, commitment and intelligence of an competent coach.

Oh and the coaches mentioned were fired.  So when did we actually start accepting mediocrity? 

Not saying that HDN should be fired but he has divided the fanbase with his record, his actions, and his attitude as of late (C'mon you asked a guy to reschedule his grandpa's funeral so he could play?!?!).  A head coach that has pride would RESIGN his position rather than tear apart a fanbase.

See sig. line below (if they are back on).

PS...hypothetical question for huggers in this thread if any of the kicks in the Vandy and Bama games would have been 3 FEET in the other direction we would be 1 and 3 (0 and 2 SEC) looking at a distinct possibility of being 1 and 4 (0 and 3 SEC) after playing #2 Auburn.  Would you still support HDN?

[jabohog]

I figured i would weigh in right before i put you on my ignore button.  Yes, HDN DID improve the program from the previous 7 years, HOWEVER he reached a plateau as to his ability to rise any higher.  Here are some coaches and programs who were in our situation, but found THE COACH to get them past that level HDN is NOT CAPABLE of getting us past...

LSU
With Saban
Year Won Lost Tied 
2004 9 3   
2003 13 1    (1st NC since 1958, despite all the “advantages” they have)
2002 8 5   
2001 10 3   
2000 8 4 

Pre Saban
Year Won Lost Tied 
1999 3 8   
1998 4 7   
1997 9 3   
1996 10 2   
1995 7 4 1  
1994 4 7   
1993 5 6   
1992 2 9   
1991 5 6   
1990 5 6   
1989 4 7 

Iowa
With Ferentz
Year Won Lost Tied
2005 7 5   
2004 10 2   
2003 10 3   
2002 11 2   
2001 7 5   
2000 3 9   
1999 1 10 

Pre Ferentz
Year Won Lost Tied 
1998 3 8   
1997 7 5   
1996 9 3   
1995 8 4   
1994 5 5 1  
1993 6 6   
1992 5 7 

USC
With Carroll
Year Won Lost Tied
2005 12 1   
2004 13 0   
2003 12 1    (1st NC in 20 years, despite all the “advantages” they have)
2002 11 2   
2001 6 6

Pre Carroll
Year Won Lost Tied
2000 5 7   
1999 6 6   
1998 8 5   
1997 6 5   
1996 6 6   

Oklahoma
With Stoops
Year Won Lost Tied 
2005 8 4   
2004 12 1   
2003 12 2   
2002 12 2   
2001 11 2   
2000 13 0    (1st NC in 15 years, despite all the “advantages” they have)
1999 7 5 

Pre Stoops                         
Year Won Lost Tied 
1998 5 6   
1997 4 8   
1996 3 8   
1995 5 5 1  
1994 6 6   
1993 9 3   
1992 5 4

Cal
With Tedford
Year Win Loss Tie
2005 8 4   
2004 10 2   
2003 8 6   
2002 7 5

Pre Tedford
Year Win Loss Tie  
2001 1 10   
2000 3 8   
1999 4 7   
1998 5 6   
1997 3 8   
1996 6 6   
1995 3 8   
1994 4 7   
1993 9 4   
1992 4 7   
1991 10 2   
1990 7 4 1  
1989 4 7   
1988 5 5 1  
1987 3 6 2  
1986 2 9   
1985 4 7   
1984 2 9   
1983 5 5 1  
1982 7 4   
1981 2 9   
1980 3 8 

Oregon
With Bellotti
Year Win Loss Tie
2005 10 2   
2004 5 6   
2003 8 5   
2002 7 6   
2001 11 1   
2000 10 2   
1999 9 3   
1998 8 4   
1997 7 5   
1996 6 5   
1995 9 3 

Pre Bellotti
Year Win Loss Tie
1994 9 4   
1993 5 6   
1992 6 6   
1991 3 8   
1990 8 4   
1989 8 4   
1988 6 6   
1987 6 5   
1986 5 6   
1985 5 6   
1984 6 5   
1983 4 6 1  
1982 2 8 1  
1981 2 9 

DammmmmN! Got Milk?

[hogfansince1964]

What is your agenda?

My "agenda" is to enjoy the wins by the Razorbacks and agonize over their losses - regardless of who the coach is.

If the Hogs make it to a bowl game this season after missing out the previous two seasons that should be sufficient.  Then let's see what happens next season and see if more improvement is made.  If improvement is not made again in 2007, then change may need to be looked at.  But that should wait until at least November 2007 and not be a topic of conversation in September 2006 by Hog fans when there is a real possibility for the Hogs to return to a bowl game this season.

Otherwise, it looks like some folks just want to get rid of Nutt regardless of how the team does in 2006-2007 and regardless of whether or not improvement in made in 2006-2007 compared to 2004-2005.

[TechHawg]

the darkside doesn't care

Are the "darksiders" in danger of pushing their personal agenda ahead of support for the Razorback football team?  If so, that is very sad.

Agenda? Are you kidding me? Were just fans. We have no agenda but to win games. As for the football team, we want what is best for them and that is a winning coach. What is your agenda? You point many fingers not to have many answers.

Come on now, there are definitely some people on there that would rather have a 3-9 season this year and get rid of HDN, than finish 11-1 and retain him.

[JackJohnson]

I figured i would weigh in right before i put you on my ignore button.  Yes, HDN DID improve the program from the previous 7 years, HOWEVER he reached a plateau as to his ability to rise any higher.  Here are some coaches and programs who were in our situation, but found THE COACH to get them past that level HDN is NOT CAPABLE of getting us past...

LSU
With Saban
Year Won Lost Tied 
2004 9 3   
2003 13 1    (1st NC since 1958, despite all the “advantages” they have)
2002 8 5   
2001 10 3   
2000 8 4 

Pre Saban
Year Won Lost Tied 
1999 3 8   
1998 4 7   
1997 9 3   
1996 10 2   
1995 7 4 1  
1994 4 7   
1993 5 6   
1992 2 9   
1991 5 6   
1990 5 6   
1989 4 7 

Iowa
With Ferentz
Year Won Lost Tied
2005 7 5   
2004 10 2   
2003 10 3   
2002 11 2   
2001 7 5   
2000 3 9   
1999 1 10 

Pre Ferentz
Year Won Lost Tied 
1998 3 8   
1997 7 5   
1996 9 3   
1995 8 4   
1994 5 5 1  
1993 6 6   
1992 5 7 

USC
With Carroll
Year Won Lost Tied
2005 12 1   
2004 13 0   
2003 12 1    (1st NC in 20 years, despite all the “advantages” they have)
2002 11 2   
2001 6 6

Pre Carroll
Year Won Lost Tied
2000 5 7   
1999 6 6   
1998 8 5   
1997 6 5   
1996 6 6   

Oklahoma
With Stoops
Year Won Lost Tied 
2005 8 4   
2004 12 1   
2003 12 2   
2002 12 2   
2001 11 2   
2000 13 0    (1st NC in 15 years, despite all the “advantages” they have)
1999 7 5 

Pre Stoops                         
Year Won Lost Tied 
1998 5 6   
1997 4 8   
1996 3 8   
1995 5 5 1  
1994 6 6   
1993 9 3   
1992 5 4

Cal
With Tedford
Year Win Loss Tie
2005 8 4   
2004 10 2   
2003 8 6   
2002 7 5

Pre Tedford
Year Win Loss Tie  
2001 1 10   
2000 3 8   
1999 4 7   
1998 5 6   
1997 3 8   
1996 6 6   
1995 3 8   
1994 4 7   
1993 9 4   
1992 4 7   
1991 10 2   
1990 7 4 1  
1989 4 7   
1988 5 5 1  
1987 3 6 2  
1986 2 9   
1985 4 7   
1984 2 9   
1983 5 5 1  
1982 7 4   
1981 2 9   
1980 3 8 

Oregon
With Bellotti
Year Win Loss Tie
2005 10 2   
2004 5 6   
2003 8 5   
2002 7 6   
2001 11 1   
2000 10 2   
1999 9 3   
1998 8 4   
1997 7 5   
1996 6 5   
1995 9 3 

Pre Bellotti
Year Win Loss Tie
1994 9 4   
1993 5 6   
1992 6 6   
1991 3 8   
1990 8 4   
1989 8 4   
1988 6 6   
1987 6 5   
1986 5 6   
1985 5 6   
1984 6 5   
1983 4 6 1  
1982 2 8 1  
1981 2 9 

DammmmmN! Got Milk?

Hey, they wanted to throw out some numbers, i figured i would throw out some from the not so distant past at schools that were going through the same darn we are and undoubtedly had their "darksiders" SCREAMING for a new coach to reach them to the levels they KNEW their programs could achieve, while their "huggers" were content with the product put forth every saturday for years. 

sounds familiar, unfortunately thanks to JFB, JL and the 95%, we won't get to experience the excitement a competent coach would bring to our program.

[Since 1894]

1990 – 1997 (8 years prior to Nutt) :
Over all record: 38-51-2   
2 winning seasons, 1 tie, 5 losing seasons
Embarassing losses:  Rice, Baylor X 2, THE Citadel, SMU X 4
2 bowls with 0 victories

1998-2005 ( Nutt’s first 8 years)
   Over all record: 57-40
   5 winning seasons, 1 tie, 2 losing seasons
   Embarassing losses: Kentucky 2002, Vanderbilt 2005
   6 bowl games with 2 victories

Long Live Houston Nutt!  thank you for the excitement, the enthusiasm, and the improvement.
   
2006- 3-1 start for Nutt

Another Hugger Brother!!!

Welcome aboard

[Random Parsley]

I told myself I'd not become the grammar/spelling cop guy.  No board needs that.  So this isn't directed to any specific person since I've seen it many times.

Just in case anybody prints anything, "overall" is a word.  And Scott Faldon demonstrated its correct usage. "Over" and "all" are also valid words, but "overall" is the one you're looking for here.  As in: my overall record in racquetball sucks.  Peace.

Edit: I only posted this for something more permanent than a board posting.

[TechHawg]

Yeah, Houston's winning has plateaud off the last couple years, but honestly and as objectively as possible, without adding "well he should have recruited better blah blah" into the equation, it would have been dang near impossible to have winning seasons the last 2 years with the amount of youth on the football team.  That is plain and simple fact. The fact that we are 3-1 so far this year with soph RB's, a frosh QB, and 3 frosh receivers is pretty impressive if you look at it objectively.

Oh wait, but we should be 1-3.  That's right, so our victories don't count. Now I remember.

[PulledPork]

the darkside doesn't care

Are the "darksiders" in danger of pushing their personal agenda ahead of support for the Razorback football team?  If so, that is very sad.

Agenda? Are you kidding me? Were just fans. We have no agenda but to win games. As for the football team, we want what is best for them and that is a winning coach. What is your agenda? You point many fingers not to have many answers.

Come on now, there are definitely some people on there that would rather have a 3-9 season this year and get rid of HDN, than finish 11-1 and retain him.

an 11-1 win season will NEVER, and I mean NEVER happen with Nuttboi!  You can quote me, take it to the bank, laminate it or what ever you do with you plush HDN doll!!


Pulled out...

[Hogster18]

So Arkansas finishing 7th in the nation in 1975 is meaningless because it was done in the SWC? Finishing 3rd after beating OU in the Orange Bowl in 1978 isn't as good as finishing 17th in 1999 after beating Texas in the Cotton because one was done in the SWC and the other in the SEC?

Not meaningless at all.  But we beat a mediocre Georgia team with previous losses to Pitt and Ole Miss (combined 14-9 record) in 1975.  In 1978, we lost to Houston and Texas (as well as '75) and didn't win the bowl game. We tied UCLA.

I'm as happy as you were with the results, but we weren't facing SEC competition and would have still been mediocre if not for the SWC.

[lyon98]

1990 – 1997 (8 years prior to Nutt) :
Over all record: 38-51-2   
2 winning seasons, 1 tie, 5 losing seasons
Embarassing losses:  Rice, Baylor X 2, THE Citadel, SMU X 4
2 bowls with 0 victories

1998-2005 ( Nutt’s first 8 years)
   Over all record: 57-40
   5 winning seasons, 1 tie, 2 losing seasons
   Embarassing losses: Kentucky 2002, Vanderbilt 2005
   6 bowl games with 2 victories

Long Live Houston Nutt!  thank you for the excitement, the enthusiasm, and the improvement.
   
2006- 3-1 start for Nutt

So what your saying is, the last 8 years weren't as bad as the 8 years before that...

I guess you probably never won anything you participated in growing up, huh?

It's ok.  There is a place for losers in our society.  You're special.

Kind of like using arithmetic, isn't it. 4 times 0 = nothing

You could add the music city bowl to nutt's record, not exactly a success.

[Hogster18]

So you're saying Arkansas has been mediocre ever since joining the SEC?

Unfortunately, yes.  But I do not think it is entirely due to the coach.

[Since 1894]

1990 – 1997 (8 years prior to Nutt) :
Over all record: 38-51-2   
2 winning seasons, 1 tie, 5 losing seasons
Embarassing losses:  Rice, Baylor X 2, THE Citadel, SMU X 4
2 bowls with 0 victories

1998-2005 ( Nutt’s first 8 years)
   Over all record: 57-40
   5 winning seasons, 1 tie, 2 losing seasons
   Embarassing losses: Kentucky 2002, Vanderbilt 2005
   6 bowl games with 2 victories

Long Live Houston Nutt!  thank you for the excitement, the enthusiasm, and the improvement.
   
2006- 3-1 start for Nutt

I love this myopic view of things...taking a program from ice cold to tepid and people think the man is a genius.  This just shows how misguided and clueless so many Arkansas fans really are.  How truly sad!

? Was that post a personal attack against another poster or was that a comment on their opinion.?

At first blush, it seemed like a personal attack.  But I am sure it wasn't because we all know that personal attacks aren't allowed on Hogville.net!!!!

Especially by Moderators and Administrators.

Just wondering?

[HatfieldHog]

1990 – 1997 (8 years prior to Nutt) :
Over all record: 38-51-2   
2 winning seasons, 1 tie, 5 losing seasons
Embarassing losses:  Rice, Baylor X 2, THE Citadel, SMU X 4
2 bowls with 0 victories

1998-2005 ( Nutt’s first 8 years)
   Over all record: 57-40
   5 winning seasons, 1 tie, 2 losing seasons
   Embarassing losses: Kentucky 2002, Vanderbilt 2005
   6 bowl games with 2 victories

Long Live Houston Nutt!  thank you for the excitement, the enthusiasm, and the improvement.
   
2006- 3-1 start for Nutt

Yeah, Dude, I'm glad that ole Nutt has put us at the top of College Football!!!!  Dude, Rutgers is ranked ahead of Arkansas,  does that tell you anything about your argument?

See ya

[JigNPig]

I figured i would weigh in right before i put you on my ignore button.  Yes, HDN DID improve the program from the previous 7 years, HOWEVER he reached a plateau as to his ability to rise any higher.  Here are some coaches and programs who were in our situation, but found THE COACH to get them past that level HDN is NOT CAPABLE of getting us past...

LSU
With Saban
Year Won Lost Tied 
2004 9 3   
2003 13 1    (1st NC since 1958, despite all the “advantages” they have)
2002 8 5   
2001 10 3   
2000 8 4 

Pre Saban
Year Won Lost Tied 
1999 3 8   
1998 4 7   
1997 9 3   
1996 10 2   
1995 7 4 1  
1994 4 7   
1993 5 6   
1992 2 9   
1991 5 6   
1990 5 6   
1989 4 7 

Iowa
With Ferentz
Year Won Lost Tied
2005 7 5   
2004 10 2   
2003 10 3   
2002 11 2   
2001 7 5   
2000 3 9   
1999 1 10 

Pre Ferentz
Year Won Lost Tied 
1998 3 8   
1997 7 5   
1996 9 3   
1995 8 4   
1994 5 5 1  
1993 6 6   
1992 5 7 

USC
With Carroll
Year Won Lost Tied
2005 12 1   
2004 13 0   
2003 12 1    (1st NC in 20 years, despite all the “advantages” they have)
2002 11 2   
2001 6 6

Pre Carroll
Year Won Lost Tied
2000 5 7   
1999 6 6   
1998 8 5   
1997 6 5   
1996 6 6   

Oklahoma
With Stoops
Year Won Lost Tied 
2005 8 4   
2004 12 1   
2003 12 2   
2002 12 2   
2001 11 2   
2000 13 0    (1st NC in 15 years, despite all the “advantages” they have)
1999 7 5 

Pre Stoops                         
Year Won Lost Tied 
1998 5 6   
1997 4 8   
1996 3 8   
1995 5 5 1  
1994 6 6   
1993 9 3   
1992 5 4

Cal
With Tedford
Year Win Loss Tie
2005 8 4   
2004 10 2   
2003 8 6   
2002 7 5

Pre Tedford
Year Win Loss Tie  
2001 1 10   
2000 3 8   
1999 4 7   
1998 5 6   
1997 3 8   
1996 6 6   
1995 3 8   
1994 4 7   
1993 9 4   
1992 4 7   
1991 10 2   
1990 7 4 1  
1989 4 7   
1988 5 5 1  
1987 3 6 2  
1986 2 9   
1985 4 7   
1984 2 9   
1983 5 5 1  
1982 7 4   
1981 2 9   
1980 3 8 

Oregon
With Bellotti
Year Win Loss Tie
2005 10 2   
2004 5 6   
2003 8 5   
2002 7 6   
2001 11 1   
2000 10 2   
1999 9 3   
1998 8 4   
1997 7 5   
1996 6 5   
1995 9 3 

Pre Bellotti
Year Win Loss Tie
1994 9 4   
1993 5 6   
1992 6 6   
1991 3 8   
1990 8 4   
1989 8 4   
1988 6 6   
1987 6 5   
1986 5 6   
1985 5 6   
1984 6 5   
1983 4 6 1  
1982 2 8 1  
1981 2 9 

DammmmmN! Got Milk?

Hey, they wanted to throw out some numbers, i figured i would throw out some from the not so distant past at schools that were going through the same Shiite we are and undoubtedly had their "darksiders" SCREAMING for a new coach to reach them to the levels they KNEW their programs could achieve, while their "huggers" were content with the product put forth every saturday for years. 

sounds familiar, unfortunately thanks to JFB, JL and the 95%, we won't get to experience the excitement a competent coach would bring to our program.

Nice stats!  Thanks...My question for you is....Can Houston Nutt lead the Razorbacks to this kind of success with the new talent and the new offensive called by Gus Malzahn?   We shall see.  That's what we've got and it isn't changing any time soon.

[dj shanon "Notshavin" smeya]

1990 – 1997 (8 years prior to Nutt) :
Over all record: 38-51-2   
2 winning seasons, 1 tie, 5 losing seasons
Embarassing losses:  Rice, Baylor X 2, THE Citadel, SMU X 4
2 bowls with 0 victories

1998-2005 ( Nutt's first 8 years)
   Over all record: 57-40
   5 winning seasons, 1 tie, 2 losing seasons
   Embarassing losses: Kentucky 2002, Vanderbilt 2005
   6 bowl games with 2 victories

Long Live Houston Nutt!  thank you for the excitement, the enthusiasm, and the improvement.
   
2006- 3-1 start for Nutt

I love this myopic view of things...taking a program from ice cold to tepid and people think the man is a genius.  This just shows how misguided and clueless so many Arkansas fans really are.  How truly sad!

? Was that post a personal attack against another poster or was that a comment on their opinion.?

At first blush, it seemed like a personal attack.  But I am sure it wasn't because we all know that personal attacks aren't allowed on Hogville.net!!!!

Especially by Moderators and Administrators.

Just wondering?

That post was not a personal attack a personal attack whatsoever.

I agree it was not it was not I agree whatsoever.

[ckhawgu]

This post just tells me some of us are blind in one eye and can't see out the other!

[Since 1894]

1990 – 1997 (8 years prior to Nutt) :
Over all record: 38-51-2   
2 winning seasons, 1 tie, 5 losing seasons
Embarassing losses:  Rice, Baylor X 2, THE Citadel, SMU X 4
2 bowls with 0 victories

1998-2005 ( Nutt’s first 8 years)
   Over all record: 57-40
   5 winning seasons, 1 tie, 2 losing seasons
   Embarassing losses: Kentucky 2002, Vanderbilt 2005
   6 bowl games with 2 victories

Long Live Houston Nutt!  thank you for the excitement, the enthusiasm, and the improvement.
   
2006- 3-1 start for Nutt

I love this myopic view of things...taking a program from ice cold to tepid and people think the man is a genius.  This just shows how misguided and clueless so many Arkansas fans really are.  How truly sad!

? Was that post a personal attack against another poster or was that a comment on their opinion.?

At first blush, it seemed like a personal attack.  But I am sure it wasn't because we all know that personal attacks aren't allowed on Hogville.net!!!!

Especially by Moderators and Administrators.

Just wondering?

That post was not a personal attack a personal attack whatsoever.

I agree it was not it was not I agree whatsoever.

I am starting to think that both of you need a 14 day suspension.  Not from Hogville.net but from drinking while posting (PUI)!!

Ha -  Be Good

[JigNPig]

HoopHog,

For us misguided and clueless fans.....what is your solution for Arkansas to become a West Virginia, USC, Auburn or Virginia Tech?

[jabohog]

What is your agenda?

My "agenda" is to enjoy the wins by the Razorbacks and agonize over their losses - regardless of who the coach is.

If the Hogs make it to a bowl game this season after missing out the previous two seasons that should be sufficient.  Then let's see what happens next season and see if more improvement is made.  If improvement is not made again in 2007, then change may need to be looked at.  But that should wait until at least November 2007 and not be a topic of conversation in September 2006 by Hog fans when there is a real possibility for the Hogs to return to a bowl game this season.

Otherwise, it looks like some folks just want to get rid of Nutt regardless of how the team does in 2006-2007 and regardless of whether or not improvement in made in 2006-2007 compared to 2004-2005.

Why is that sufficient? Your attitude toward winning is, no disrespect, pitiful. I agree that if, as I have said in other posts, all that can be done has been done, then yes, a bowl game will be sufficient. But it is the same ole last 8 years of the same ole Nutt coaching and recruiting. Why do I have to accept a bowl game as sufficient, when I hear of recruits that don't even know the coaches name from Arkansas that is recruiting them? Why do I have to accept a bowl game as sufficient when we have an OC that is not allowed to try his offensive philosophy? Why do I have to accept a bowl game as sufficient when we have a DC that is only worried about stats and his next job? Why do I have to accept a bowl game as sufficient when we haven't had a field goal kicker since 1998 and we won't hire a coach to produce us one? Why do I have to accept a bowl game as sufficient when in the last five years we have progressively gone down hill simply because of complacency in the coaching staff? Because of an NCAA investigation? Give me a break. When Nutt and staff decides that the Razorbacks are more important than family, friends, politics, and all the other stuff that the elites enjoy, and the National Championship starts to be constructed, then I will say things are sufficient!!!!

[AltaHog]

Who put hogfansince 1964  in charge of what was sufficient?

[JigNPig]

1990 – 1997 (8 years prior to Nutt) :
Over all record: 38-51-2   
2 winning seasons, 1 tie, 5 losing seasons
Embarassing losses:  Rice, Baylor X 2, THE Citadel, SMU X 4
2 bowls with 0 victories

1998-2005 ( Nutt’s first 8 years)
   Over all record: 57-40
   5 winning seasons, 1 tie, 2 losing seasons
   Embarassing losses: Kentucky 2002, Vanderbilt 2005
   6 bowl games with 2 victories

Long Live Houston Nutt!  thank you for the excitement, the enthusiasm, and the improvement.
   
2006- 3-1 start for Nutt

So what your saying is, the last 8 years weren't as bad as the 8 years before that...

I guess you probably never won anything you participated in growing up, huh?

It's ok.  There is a place for losers in our society.  You're special.

Just stating the facts.  The darksiders asked for statistics and you got them. 

By the way this has nothing to do with ME.  Stick to the facts.

[DEVICEHIGH]

I figured i would weigh in right before i put you on my ignore button.  Yes, HDN DID improve the program from the previous 7 years, HOWEVER he reached a plateau as to his ability to rise any higher.  Here are some coaches and programs who were in our situation, but found THE COACH to get them past that level HDN is NOT CAPABLE of getting us past...

LSU
With Saban
Year Won Lost Tied 
2004 9 3   
2003 13 1    (1st NC since 1958, despite all the "advantages" they have)
2002 8 5   
2001 10 3   
2000 8 4 

Pre Saban
Year Won Lost Tied 
1999 3 8   
1998 4 7   
1997 9 3   
1996 10 2   
1995 7 4 1  
1994 4 7   
1993 5 6   
1992 2 9   
1991 5 6   
1990 5 6   
1989 4 7 

Iowa
With Ferentz
Year Won Lost Tied
2005 7 5   
2004 10 2   
2003 10 3   
2002 11 2   
2001 7 5   
2000 3 9   
1999 1 10 

Pre Ferentz
Year Won Lost Tied 
1998 3 8   
1997 7 5   
1996 9 3   
1995 8 4   
1994 5 5 1  
1993 6 6   
1992 5 7 

USC
With Carroll
Year Won Lost Tied
2005 12 1   
2004 13 0   
2003 12 1    (1st NC in 20 years, despite all the "advantages" they have)
2002 11 2   
2001 6 6

Pre Carroll
Year Won Lost Tied
2000 5 7   
1999 6 6   
1998 8 5   
1997 6 5   
1996 6 6   

Oklahoma
With Stoops
Year Won Lost Tied 
2005 8 4   
2004 12 1   
2003 12 2   
2002 12 2   
2001 11 2   
2000 13 0    (1st NC in 15 years, despite all the "advantages" they have)
1999 7 5 

Pre Stoops                         
Year Won Lost Tied 
1998 5 6   
1997 4 8   
1996 3 8   
1995 5 5 1  
1994 6 6   
1993 9 3   
1992 5 4

Cal
With Tedford
Year Win Loss Tie
2005 8 4   
2004 10 2   
2003 8 6   
2002 7 5

Pre Tedford
Year Win Loss Tie  
2001 1 10   
2000 3 8   
1999 4 7   
1998 5 6   
1997 3 8   
1996 6 6   
1995 3 8   
1994 4 7   
1993 9 4   
1992 4 7   
1991 10 2   
1990 7 4 1  
1989 4 7   
1988 5 5 1  
1987 3 6 2  
1986 2 9   
1985 4 7   
1984 2 9   
1983 5 5 1  
1982 7 4   
1981 2 9   
1980 3 8 

Oregon
With Bellotti
Year Win Loss Tie
2005 10 2   
2004 5 6   
2003 8 5   
2002 7 6   
2001 11 1   
2000 10 2   
1999 9 3   
1998 8 4   
1997 7 5   
1996 6 5   
1995 9 3 

Pre Bellotti
Year Win Loss Tie
1994 9 4   
1993 5 6   
1992 6 6   
1991 3 8   
1990 8 4   
1989 8 4   
1988 6 6   
1987 6 5   
1986 5 6   
1985 5 6   
1984 6 5   
1983 4 6 1  
1982 2 8 1  
1981 2 9 

Dang....


Trim those quotes, please.
Just need to read it once.





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[JigNPig]

DEVICEHIGH,

Even though I don't like the idea of black t-shirts at UA games....Your avatar is hilarious.   

I do believe in free speech.