The 1964 Hogs should tell Bama to shut the hell up

[goodguytex]

1964. Who cares anymore....really??

Hog fans who actually think and believe we did earn a NC that year, with the grantland rice trophy in our trophy case to prove it?

[holeinthewall]

UCF game with Georgia Tech was the game that was cancelled.

[Hogsolo]

UCF has a legit case. They went undefeated, beat a few Top 25 teams this year, and beat the team that beat both teams in the National championship. Sounds like a national championship to me.

It was a shame they didn't get a shot at the playoffs with their record.  Special season in Orlando.

[rzrbackrob]

If you're trying to determine a national championship for division 1 football (FBS), and only teams in P5 conferences are actually eligible, then name it the P5 championship.

If nearly half the teams that play in division 1 college football (FBS) do not in reality have a legitimate shot at a championship, the system is illegitimate.

I'm sure that much like Bama, UCF can find some obscure organization or person to award them the championship this year.

Until every team starts out the year, and goes undefeated, has a chance to win the championship, the championship will remain a mythical national championship.

[010HogFan]

People didn't think they were going to beat Auburn until they beat them.

Completely different scenario playing a depressed Auburn team in the Peach Bowl and playing a Nick Saban coached Alabama team in the 4 team playoff. They would get donkey stomped.

[PorkSoda]

If you're trying to determine a national championship for division 1 football (FBS), and only teams in P5 conferences are actually eligible, then name it the P5 championship.

If nearly half the teams that play in division 1 college football (FBS) do not in reality have a legitimate shot at a championship, the system is illegitimate.

I'm sure that much like Bama, UCF can find some obscure organization or person to award them the championship this year.

Until every team starts out the year, and goes undefeated, has a chance to win the championship, the championship will remain a mythical national championship.

good point.  they should have a 4 team P5 playoff and a 4 team G5 Play off and then the two champs can play eachother for the FBS championship.

[seasonhog]

1964. Who cares anymore....really??

Hog fans who actually think and believe we did earn a NC that year, with the grantland rice trophy in our trophy case to prove it?

The national media has never giving AR any credit......and nothing has changed.....

IF we would not have won our " 94" ...BB...NC on the floor....the media would never voting us as NC.

[Swine-as-wine]

since when, is beating Awdurn, a requirement for winning the national title?

[HogShat]

So you mean to tell me that if the Hogs were sitting in Bama or Georgia's spot right now, some of you would feel we were truly playing for second place because UCF went undefeated so therefore they're the champs?

Be honest.

Ok I see this and raise you one. If the Hogs were sitting in UCF's position how would you feel about it? If Bama wins, and I think they will, I think UCF has a legit gripe.

[Smalltownhog95]

Very simple solution to this. 8 team playoff. 5 conference champions with 3 wildcards. Ucf could have got in and proved whether or not they're champs.

[DLUXHOG]

1964. Who cares anymore....really??

I do.... really...

[racinghog]

Very simple solution to this. 8 team playoff. 5 conference champions with 3 wildcards. Ucf could have got in and proved whether or not they're champs.

So you would put a team in with 3 maybe 4 losses that upset some one in a conference championship game? And by the way they wouldn't have made it in this year either, they weren't in the top 8.

[HognitiveDissonance]

The transitive property does not apply in sports.  If A>B and B>C then A>C.  This is what they are saying.  Applies in the math classroom, not in sports.

Yes, it does apply. Bruce Jenner had a transitive property, right?

[racinghog]

Yes, it does apply. Bruce Jenner had a transitive property, right?

Ouch!!

[HogPharmer]

Jerryatric Bowl

Well played

[From Tusk Till Dawn]

Im ok with it, great marketing and probably will create some buzz with recruits.  Probably make some money on memorabilia too.  Additionally, they wanted to be in a P5, they were interested in the big 12 when they were looking.  Lots of cases of teams with weak schedules winning it, Ohio St. and maybe Bama this year are decent examples.

[HogFansReunited]

since when, is beating Awdurn, a requirement for winning the national title?

Evidently you need to lose to Auburn to have a chance to win the championship.

[OneTuskOverTheLine™]

So you mean to tell me that if the Hogs were sitting in Bama or Georgia's spot right now, some of you would feel we were truly playing for second place because UCF went undefeated so therefore they're the champs?

Be honest.

No... We just wouldn't give a damn. Let them claim what they want. Maybe it will spark a truer play-off...

[AirWarren]

I do.... really...

Ok.

I don't.

[mykidsdad]

They are undefeated and won every game they had an opportunity to win. If people don't like them claiming they are national champs, make a playoff system that would include an undefeated team from a mid major.

You are correct. I hereby declare UCF as national champions of the mid-major schools. Well done. They were able to beat what 1 power 5 five that had already lost to 3 other teams. Impressive.

[hog.goblin]

Auburn also lost to a mediocre LSU team.

And LSU lost to Troy, therefore Troy is better than UCF

That's why the A beat B, B beat C, therefore A is greater than C analogy doesn't work (I know that wasn't your point)

Too bad their Ga Tech game wasn't made up.  They aren't top 25 but that was likely a loss

[Hardcore Hoggy]

They beat the team that beat both the teams playing in the title game and they are undefeated. In this flawed system they deserve a title claim as much as anyone.

Wrong. the diffference between now and 1964 is that we now have a RECOGNIZED NCAA Division 1 Football Champion , not like in years past where various organizations named their own champions.

Would be like if Alabama came around and said "you know WE beat Arkansas in mens basketball in the 93/94 season, therefor WE won the national championship that year"

no sorry, there is a recognized system for naming that champion and you didn't win.

Sorry, either Bama or Georgia will be the football national champion for last season.

No sense getting made at other teams making claims though, just laugh .

[RebelliousHog]

UCF game with Georgia Tech was the game that was cancelled.

Thu, Aug 31 vs FIU W61-17 1-0 (0-0)

Fri, Sept 8   vs Memphis Canceled

Sat, Sept 16 vs Georgia Tech Canceled

Sat, Sept 23 @ Maryland W38-10 2-0 (0-0)

Sat, Sept 30 vs Maine Canceled

And my bad. UMemph game was rescheduled and they did win.

[HoopS]

Ok I see this and raise you one. If the Hogs were sitting in UCF's position how would you feel about it? If Bama wins, and I think they will, I think UCF has a legit gripe.

I am sure I'd hope we'd get some kind of credit and I'd be openly challenging the winner, but deep inside I'd know we simply played a softer schedule. It's precisely why our basketball team upgraded their schedule - our conference wasn't considered strong enough so we had to bolster our SOS out of conference.

[Tejano Jawg]

If you own the town record for homeruns hit in a season against organized high level competition, do you worry about the little kid that says he hit it further out of the same park in a pick-up game one day?

Most rational people wouldn't give it a second thought, let alone giving it any credence by recognizing it as something that is legitimately worth being concerned about.

Story of my life, pal. 

[IronHog]

Yes they did. And UCF beat everyone they played, including a team that beat 2 teams playing for the NC. I don't think they have a right to claim NC. But I can understand their reasoning.

Let LSU beat on them then let them go play Bama and Ga


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