OM response......

[ricepig]

http://athleticsworking.wp2.olemiss.edu

[ricepig]

https://twitter.com/BruceFeldmanCFB/status/872182145422303232

[OS2 (SW) Razor Back]

I'll just wait til the movie comes out.

[Pig in the Pokey]

this has to make @KlubhouseKonnected happy

[31to6]

http://athleticsworking.wp2.olemiss.edu

So, to sum up.

Freeze did nothing.
We fired people we don't need anymore.
Attack the whistleblowers.
We don't actually pay our players that well.

[ricepig]

So, to sum up.

Freeze did nothing.
We fired people we don't need anymore.
Attack the whistleblowers.
We don't actually pay our players that well.

And it took them 124 pages to say that, lol.......

[31to6]

And it took them 124 pages to say that, lol.......

Lawyers bill by the minute.

[Smalltownhog95]

Between OM, Baylor, Aaron Hernandez, and the fall of Johnny Football there's going to be some great 30 for 30's out in a few years.

[Birminghog]

Lawyers bill by the minute.

Friend of mine told me that they taught them in law school that, historically, they billed by the word.

[hobhog]

They are going all in. If NCAA loses this one, they know they have lost all authority. This will not end well for somebody.....

[KlubhouseKonnected]

this has to make @KlubhouseKonnected happy

Lol, I was all set to dig into it and remembered I had to prepare for a hearing tomorrow and also sleep before it. I hope you are indicating some good reading is in store for me.

[KlubhouseKonnected]

Lawyers bill by the minute.

I think the most common standard is 15 minute increments which should really make people think twice about how often they call or email their lawyers for updates... you know because of rounding up.

[MuskogeeHogFan]

Here's a spreadsheet that lays out all of the allegations and the response of Ole Miss to those alleged violations. Just click on the spreadsheet to enlarge.

http://imgur.com/a/N3MLt

https://www.reddit.com/r/CFB/comments/6fpxrd/all_twentyone_allegations_against_ole_miss/

[Boss Hog in the Arkansas]

Between OM, Baylor, Aaron Hernandez, and the fall of Johnny Football there's going to be some great 30 for 30's out in a few years.

I can almost guarantee there will be a 30 for 30 on petrino. ESPECIALLY if he wins a national championship in the next few years

[Bacons Rebellion]

I can almost guarantee there will be a 30 for 30 on petrino. ESPECIALLY if he wins a national championship in the next few years

Produced and edited by interns, though. At that'll be left.

[redleg]

What I really want to see, is for OM to get an additional bowl ban year (making it two total), a two year ban on division or conference titles, zero off-campus recruiting for one year, cut recruiting visits in half for two years, and loss of 5 scholarships for each of the next three recruiting classes. And if it proven that Hugh Freeze is guilty of serious violations, issue a show cause.
:razorback:

[MuskogeeHogFan]

What I really want to see, is for OM to get an additional bowl ban year (making it two total), a two year ban on division or conference titles, zero off-campus recruiting for one year, cut recruiting visits in half for two years, and loss of 5 scholarships for each of the next three recruiting classes. And if it proven that Hugh Freeze is guilty of serious violations, issue a show cause.
:razorback:

Judging from this, http://imgur.com/a/N3MLt   it seems like all of that could be possible.

[Hey Super]

Between OM, Baylor, Aaron Hernandez, and the fall of Johnny Football there's going to be some great 30 for 30's out in a few years.

I cant wait for the Manziel one.

[KlubhouseKonnected]

Apparently a lot of Ole Miss's defense includes then whining about the NCAA declining to allow them to interfere with their investigation interviews.

That's seems like first day stuff to me.

[KlubhouseKonnected]

I am immediately in LOVE with the argument Ole Miss puts forth on page 30 defending against allegation 9 that "(student-athlete 39) or (student-athlete 40)... ...received free merchandise from (Booster " by pointing out that Boooster 8s "PURCHASE RECORDS" (emphasis added) disprove the claims.

Do you see the problem there?

[rljjr]

This was the first thing I thought of.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=38ETQ1RYa_Q

[GuvHog]

What I really want to see, is for OM to get an additional bowl ban year (making it two total), a two year ban on division or conference titles, zero off-campus recruiting for one year, cut recruiting visits in half for two years, and loss of 5 scholarships for each of the next three recruiting classes. And if it proven that Hugh Freeze is guilty of serious violations, issue a show cause.
:razorback:

That isn't enough in my opinion. They should also give them a Death Penalty for this year, rule all of the LOIs signed for this yea's recruits at Ole Miss null and void, then make them ineligible to play there. No more practices this year, only team meetings, and workouts with the strength coaches.

[redleg]

That seems a bit harsh for a first offense. Besides, if the death penalty was invoked, all scholarship players would be allowed to transfer to any school they wanted without having to redshirt.
:razorback:

[Inhogswetrust]

That isn't enough in my opinion. They should also give them a Death Penalty for this year, rule all of the LOIs signed for this yea's recruits at Ole Miss null and void, then make them ineligible to play there. No more practices this year, only team meetings, and workouts with the strength coaches.

Glad to see you no longer believe in second, third and fourth chances..........................

[GuvHog]

That seems a bit harsh for a first offense. Besides, if the death penalty was invoked, all scholarship players would be allowed to transfer to any school they wanted without having to redshirt.
:razorback:

If it were just a scant few violations, I would agree with you but the list is a LONG one full of major violations. Heck, they even tried to lay the blame for most of them on a previous coach.

[GuvHog]

Glad to see you no longer believe in second, third and fourth chances..........................

Only when it's deserved. Remember the Senior D Lineman from a few years back who was arrested for being a drug dealer and was immediately kicked off of the team?? He didn't get a second chance and I supported the coaches decision to cut him loose.

[rmcchris]

I just finished reading the 30 page official allegations document. A must read for all Ole Miss fans!  This is the document that the Ole Miss Athletic Dept. refused to release under a FOI request.  I see why.  It doesn't exactly say ole Bucky was a saint.  Matter of fact it levels some serious stuff at him (lv one infractions).  I can't see how he will survive. The AP article is great and links to the 30 page official NCAA allegations and then links to the pathetic video and press conference that Ole Miss staged some time back. Lots of money exchanging hands by bag men and you know it was just the tip of the iceberg!

[rmcchris]

If it were just a scant few violations, I would agree with you but the list is a LONG one full of major violations. Heck, they even tried to lay the blame for most of them on a previous coach.

I would suggest to read the official 30 page allegations document that was made public today and then form your opinions.

[rmcchris]

Here's a spreadsheet that lays out all of the allegations and the response of Ole Miss to those alleged violations. Just click on the spreadsheet to enlarge.

http://imgur.com/a/N3MLt

https://www.reddit.com/r/CFB/comments/6fpxrd/all_twentyone_allegations_against_ole_miss/

Good stuff, they are in a heap of trouble and should be

[MuskogeeHogFan]

If it were just a scant few violations, I would agree with you but the list is a LONG one full of major violations. Heck, they even tried to lay the blame for most of them on a previous coach.

I would suggest to read the official 30 page allegations document that was made public today and then form your opinions.

They did try to slant it as though "a lot of these" came under Nutt's tenure, but that isn't true at all, which is the reason for Nutt threatening the potential of a lawsuit. The scorecard: Freeze-17  Nutt-4

Here it is in summary. Click the link, then click the spreadsheet to enlarge.

Judging from this, http://imgur.com/a/N3MLt   it seems like all of that could be possible.

[rmcchris]

They did try to slant it as though "a lot of these" came under Nutt's tenure, but that isn't true at all, which is the reason for Nutt threatening the potential of a lawsuit. The scorecard: Freeze-17  Nutt-4

Here it is in summary. Click the link, then click the spreadsheet to enlarge.

Thanks and that is a great one page summary

[Justifiable Hogicide]

Looks like another "I have sinned" press conference in our future from the holier-than-thou slimey Hugh Freeze ala Jimmy Swaggart.

[HogFoo]

This I don't think is as ballsy as what UNC is doing. They basically admitted that every single person that goes to UNC and cheats so it isn't nothing for the players to do it because everyone does it at the school.  The crazy Thing is that  UNC may get away with it!  It's totally ludacris what they did for the last 20yrs. But, as bad as I hate UNC I have to give them a thumbs up for having the balls to do it the way they are trying to do it. I still hate their azz! I hope they burn. I hope they are given the death penalty! But, the way they are trying to get by the ncaa is genius! 

[KlubhouseKonnected]

https://www.google.com/amp/amp.usatoday.com/story/102558976/

Article: "Why is Ole Miss Going to Such Great Lenghts to Protect Hugh Freeze?"



And below Farrar's lawyer elaborates on his claims of being made a patsy.

https://www.google.com/amp/www.redcuprebellion.com/platform/amp/2017/6/7/15759782/barney-farrar-ole-miss-ncaa-investigation-noa-response-lawyer-leo-lewis

http://www.clarionledger.com/story/sports/college/ole-miss/2017/06/08/bruse-loyd-denies-ole-miss-claims-against-his-client-barney-farrar/377640001/

Frankly, given the long history between Freeze and Barry, does anyone believe that Barry truly was operating entirely without sanction? That Freeze was bracing him about cheating and Farrar was denying but continuing? Show me someone who does and I will show you either a complete fool or a deliberately obtuse racism, err Ole Miss fan.

[KlubhouseKonnected]

Beautiful summary:

The Rebels' basic strategy seems to be: throw former AD/bagman Barney Farrar under the bus and admit some allegations, admit the prior acts committed by Houston Nutt's regime, paint the Mississippi State Bulldogs as some sort of conspiratorial Mayberry Machiavellis masterminding the whole thing — oh, and everyone else lied.

The net effect is to double down on the virginal purity of Hugh Freeze, a man as wronged as anyone in this process, and —aw shucks— how is he supposed to be responsible for things he didn't know about it. Moreover, aw shucks, the NCAA didn't let them cross examine a player in the middle of his interview with the COI (which they're not entitled to do.) And, aw shucks, Mississippi State wouldn't let their lawyers interview Dan Mullen (a request as inappropriate as it is bizarre, and which they are not entitled to do.)


Link:

https://www.google.com/amp/www.rollbamaroll.com/platform/amp/2017/6/8/15761526/ole-miss-doubles-down-on-the-purity-of-hugh-freeze-a-man-wronged-by-a-vast-starkville-conspiracy