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  • #1 by The_Boot_stops_here on 17 Apr 2017
  • Welp....where to start...
  • #2 by Hogfan991 on 17 Apr 2017
  • Mizzery is quietly raiding FHS.
  • #3 by ricepig on 17 Apr 2017
  • Welp....where to start...

    I think he started off in Bama, I guess you start there, that was the first school he committed to.
  • #4 by Vantage 8 dude on 17 Apr 2017
  • I think he started off in Bama, I guess you start there, that was the first school he committed to.
    Yep, as far as programs quite a step down.
  • #5 by factchecker on 17 Apr 2017
  • Did Bama not have any room left for him?

    Are you telling me that Saban didn't wait for Byers to become eligible?
  • #6 by HOGINTENNESSEE on 17 Apr 2017
  • In a few years Mizz may have more Arkansas kids on there roster than we do
  • #7 by factchecker on 17 Apr 2017
  • In a few years Mizz may have more Arkansas kids on there roster than we do

    Not likely, we have 40 players from Arkansas on our roster now.

    mizzou currently has 2 (Crockett and Utsey) and are adding 3 more (the QB, Byers, and a walk-on)
  • #8 by ricepig on 17 Apr 2017
  • In a few years Mizz may have more Arkansas kids on there roster than we do

    Nah, we always have several walkons.
  • #9 by HOGINTENNESSEE on 17 Apr 2017
  • Not likely, we have 40 players from Arkansas on our roster now.

    mizzou currently has 2 (Crockett and Utsey) and are adding 3 more (the QB, Byers, and a walk-on)

    It was a joke
  • #10 by sir-pigs-a-lot on 17 Apr 2017
  • Not likely, we have 40 players from Arkansas on our roster now.

    mizzou currently has 2 (Crockett and Utsey) and are adding 3 more (the QB, Byers, and a walk-on)

    I love this guy.
  • #11 by factchecker on 17 Apr 2017
  • I love this guy.

    I've actually had to show people our roster breakdown because they claimed we only have 3 kids from Arkansas on our roster.

    ......

    Yes our wonderfully smart fans.
  • #12 by The_Boot_stops_here on 17 Apr 2017
  • Out of curiosity, how's that make ya feel?...
  • #13 by tophawg19 on 17 Apr 2017
  • no way. we choose not to offer so best of luck to him
  • #14 by RazorPiggie on 17 Apr 2017
  • Same as I did before I read it.
  • #15 by GoHogzzGo on 17 Apr 2017
  • So he couldn't qualify at Arkansas or Bama but he could at Mizzou. Has he passed through the clearinghouse or whatever it is? Thought dude had to go Juco.
  • #16 by ricepig on 17 Apr 2017
  • #17 by Three and Snout on 17 Apr 2017
  • Same as when you posted it at 7:33.


    http://www.hogville.net/yabbse/index.php?topic=632973.msg10793489#new

    Yeah, but that one is in "SEC Sports", not "Recruiting Forum"...
  • #18 by ricepig on 17 Apr 2017
  • Yeah, but that one is in "SEC Sports", not "Recruiting Forum"...

    Ok, I thought Mizzou was in the SEC, silly me.
  • #19 by Rock City Razorback on 17 Apr 2017
  • Mizzou has gotten 3 really good Arkansas kids the past 2 years. Just hope it doesn't come back to bite us...
  • #20 by grayhawg on 17 Apr 2017
  • Where is this report coming from?
  • #21 by onebadrubi on 17 Apr 2017
  • So he couldn't qualify at Arkansas or Bama but he could at Mizzou. Has he passed through the clearinghouse or whatever it is? Thought dude had to go Juco.

    Lol nice troll job.  He just recently qualified, as of last week or this week by a recent act score.  Something Arkansas and bama were t going to gamble on holding a spot for.  Mizzou just happen to have that scholarship available, similar to Arkansas the past few years.
  • #22 by songofthesword on 18 Apr 2017
  • darn , WE have a schoolchild available lol why didn't we offer now
  • #23 by factchecker on 18 Apr 2017
  • darn , WE have a schoolchild available lol why didn't we offer now



    I think you meant scholarship?????  Either way, I don't think we have one available right now.  The best we could do is offer a blueshirt.
  • #24 by Potosihog on 20 Apr 2017
  • How is that even possible?  One semester to fix grades and then transfer to an SEC school?  Or did he stay in High School another semester  ;)

    Just weird

    http://www.rockmnation.com/missouri-football-recruiting/2017/4/20/15367640/missouri-football-2017-defensive-tackle-akial-byers-former-alabama-commit
  • #25 by theshiva on 20 Apr 2017
  • https://www.seccountry.com/alabama/alabama-crimson-tide-missouri-tigers-akial-byers-commitment

    http://247sports.com/player/akial-byers-60955

    Interesting he's with their 2017 class. Thought we would be in the mix if he gets his grades in. Guess we didn't save any spots for the last class for a situation like this?
  • #26 by 311Hog on 20 Apr 2017
  • lol so much spin.  congrats on getting 3 AR kids that weren't offered by AR... but then acting like they were.
  • #27 by PorkRinds on 20 Apr 2017
  • He burned his bridges here.
  • #28 by TheGrove68 on 20 Apr 2017
  • lol so much spin.  congrats on getting 3 AR kids that weren't offered by AR... but then acting like they were.

    I read the article and I didn't see where it stated any of the Ark. players who we signed where recruited by the Hogs? It was pointed out that other schools had recruited them and that they had crossed state lines to go to Mizzou but I missed the reference to Mizzou beating out the Hogs for these guys.
  • #29 by 311Hog on 20 Apr 2017
  • I read the article and I didn't see where it stated any of the Ark. players who we signed where recruited by the Hogs? It was pointed out that other schools had recruited them and that they had crossed state lines to go to Mizzou but I missed the reference to Mizzou beating out the Hogs for these guys.

    "That makes several top Arkansas recruits Barry Odom has convinced to cross the “Battle Line”, including RB Damarea Crockett and DT Markell Utsey as well as QB Taylor Powell this year."

    IE taken from Arkansas the "Battle line rival".
  • #30 by Vantage 8 dude on 20 Apr 2017
  • How is that even possible?  One semester to fix grades and then transfer to an SEC school?  Or did he stay in High School another semester  ;)

    Just weird

    http://www.rockmnation.com/missouri-football-recruiting/2017/4/20/15367640/missouri-football-2017-defensive-tackle-akial-byers-former-alabama-commit
    It's called the "Nick Saban method of instant eligibility". The only thing is that this time the young man didn't follow through on his apparent original intent of eventually signing with the Tide.
  • #31 by Hogs33 on 20 Apr 2017
  • I know this is not Arkansas recruiting news but I figured some of you would want to know. It looking like he is now qualified to play and has committed to Mizzou.

    https://www.seccountry.com/alabama/alabama-crimson-tide-missouri-tigers-akial-byers-commitment
  • #32 by Hogs33 on 20 Apr 2017
  • Sorry, already in SEC Sports. please delete.
  • #33 by Letsroll1200 on 20 Apr 2017
  • Congrats and hopefully he will have a great career at Mizzou. Big chance for a big time player
  • #34 by theshiva on 20 Apr 2017
  • lol so much spin.  congrats on getting 3 AR kids that weren't offered by AR... but then acting like they were.

    I mean Crockett already turned out to be a stud. If the other two also do, it wont be a good look.
  • #35 by RazorPiggie on 20 Apr 2017
  • I mean Crockett already turned out to be a stud. If the other two also do, it wont be a good look.

    Let's give it more than 11 games.
  • #36 by 311Hog on 20 Apr 2017
  • I mean Crockett already turned out to be a stud. If the other two also do, it wont be a good look.

    Yeah i mean 1000 yard rusher on a terrible team, if that is a "stud" i guess then go ahead.  I personally will take 2 1000 yard rushers on a better team.

    You can't take everyone and contrary to popular belief sometimes the marginal AR prospect gets left out.  It is crazy because this happens in pretty much every other state WAY more often and you don't see them crying about it.  I mean imagine being Louisiana, or Florida , and fielding entire teams of players that can't play for your state team.

    If we would have offered and he failed to qualify people would have lost their minds.  I would be shocked if he qualifies now to play in 2017 without some NCAA people looking into it.
  • #37 by GoHogzzGo on 20 Apr 2017
  • Nm
  • #38 by theshiva on 20 Apr 2017
  • Yeah i mean 1000 yard rusher on a terrible team, if that is a "stud" i guess then go ahead.  I personally will take 2 1000 yard rushers on a better team.

    You can't take everyone and contrary to popular believe sometimes the marginal AR prospect gets left out.  It is crazy because this happens in pretty much every other state WAY more often and you don't see them crying about it.  I mean imagine being Louisiana, or Florida , and fielding entire teams of players that can't play for your state team.

    You make a good point, rb was pretty much locked up, but we have given out offers to lesser talent before. So it seems like it was a misevaluation that Crockett wasn't good enough for an offer. Remember, there was a big chance we would've missed on White and Whaley. Whaley was committed to Georgia for awhile.

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    If we would have offered and he failed to qualify people would have lost their minds.  I would be shocked if he qualifies now to play in 2017 without some NCAA people looking into it.

    When you're not a blue chip school in the SEC, you gotta take some risks to get blue chip players to compete. Gabe Richardson already agreed to blue shirt when we were waiting on the Clemson transfer. If we would have taken a chance on Byers and Gabe ended up blue shirting, that seems to be a good risk-reward chance for the hogs. Personally I wouldn't mind taking more risks. It would have worked out with Chris Daniels and Byers. Our Dline would be beyond stacked.


    Let's give it more than 11 games.

    He looked pretty damn good those games. Pretty sure almost a full season in the SEC is enough to evaluate a player.
  • #39 by mizzouman on 20 Apr 2017
  • I've heard that Byers is actually on track to be academically eligible and be available this coming year.  If that is the case, then expect Mizzou to not renew a scholarship or someone would need to transfer.  We are at 86 with Byers.

    Byers is someone Mizzou needed.  We have only 3 DT that has played in any games and 2 of them are coming off of ACL injuries and one of them might need to redshirt.  We'll see.  But we are very thin in the trenches.  But, Byers will make 8 new DL coming in, some being JUCO's. 

  • #40 by I mustache you a question on 20 Apr 2017
  • #41 by 311Hog on 20 Apr 2017
  • oh yeah i misspoke.  Byers did not qualify in time for national signing day.  So we would have had to have held a schollie for him, and hope he qualified which honestly im going to say most people thought was/is an extreme long shot.  It seems he got the ACT he needed after signing day, and now just has to make the grades.  If he does that and goes on to a great career so be it, but i cannot fault our staff for passing.


    And i wont fault our staff for passing on a 3 star RB when you got a stable of higher rated players already there or on the way.  Same goes for passing on a 3 star QB when we have again much higher rated players already here and yes some are from AR themselves.

    That is why i laughed at the article because the writer made it "seem" like Coach Odem came into the rivals back yard and won 3 recruiting battles, when that could not have been further from the truth.  Last i checked boise st, tulsa, and mississippii jr college were not the UofA.
  • #42 by ricepig on 20 Apr 2017
  • #43 by I mustache you a question on 20 Apr 2017
  • #44 by Hog Fan...DOH! on 20 Apr 2017
  • It's ok. We're all... ok. 
  • #45 by mizzouman on 20 Apr 2017
  • oh yeah i misspoke.  Byers did not qualify in time for national signing day.  So we would have had to have held a schollie for him, and hope he qualified which honestly im going to say most people thought was/is an extreme long shot.  It seems he got the ACT he needed after signing day, and now just has to make the grades.  If he does that and goes on to a great career so be it, but i cannot fault our staff for passing.


    And i wont fault our staff for passing on a 3 star RB when you got a stable of higher rated players already there or on the way.  Same goes for passing on a 3 star QB when we have again much higher rated players already here and yes some are from AR themselves.

    That is why i laughed at the article because the writer made it "seem" like Coach Odem came into the rivals back yard and won 3 recruiting battles, when that could not have been further from the truth.  Last i checked boise st, tulsa, and mississippii jr college were not the UofA.
    I didn't read it that way, but oh well.  I guess it all depends on your perspective.
  • #46 by mizzouman on 20 Apr 2017
  • #47 by 311Hog on 20 Apr 2017
  • I didn't read it that way, but oh well.  I guess it all depends on your perspective.

    how can you not read this that way?

    "That makes several top Arkansas recruits Barry Odom has convinced to cross the “Battle Line”, including RB Damarea Crockett and DT Markell Utsey as well as QB Taylor Powell this year."

    Let me change it for you.

    "That makes several top Missouri recruits Brent Beliema has convinced to cross the “Battle Line”, including RB  and DT  as well as QB this year."

    Direct reference to "top players", "convinced" and "rivalry trophy".  Seems pretty cut and dry to me.

    This situation is very much like Darius Philon for us. Basically Bama pulled the offer, and we had a friend of his sitting next to him so he pulled the trigger.  I would never say we "won" or "convinced" Philon to come to the Hill over anyone else.  It was pure providence.
  • #48 by mizzouman on 20 Apr 2017
  • how can you not read this that way?

    "That makes several top Arkansas recruits Barry Odom has convinced to cross the “Battle Line”, including RB Damarea Crockett and DT Markell Utsey as well as QB Taylor Powell this year."

    Let me change it for you.

    "That makes several top Missouri recruits Brent Beliema has convinced to cross the “Battle Line”, including RB  and DT  as well as QB this year."

    Direct reference to "top players", "convinced" and "rivalry trophy".  Seems pretty cut and dry to me.

    This situation is very much like Darius Philon for us. Basically Bama pulled the offer, and we had a friend of his sitting next to him so he pulled the trigger.  I would never say we "won" or "convinced" Philon to come to the Hill over anyone else.  It was pure providence.
    Settle down.  Does it really matter?  These types of articles are mostly crap anyway so I don't give it much attention.  Read the one from STLTODAY.  That's a better article.
  • #49 by 311Hog on 20 Apr 2017
  • Settle down.  Does it really matter?  These types of articles are mostly crap anyway so I don't give it much attention.  Read the one from STLTODAY.  That's a better article.

    huh? just replying with my point clear and concise.  Not sure how i could get anymore settled :razorback: 
  • #50 by mizzouman on 20 Apr 2017
  • huh? just replying with my point clear and concise.  Not sure how i could get anymore settled :razorback: 
    Again, it doesn't matter.  Writers just trying to stir things up.  You should know that's what they do.  So, when I read them, I take that into consideration, then move on.
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