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snoop hawgy hawg

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Kickers😰😰
« on: April 14, 2017, 06:24:59 am »

We hear about how good the offense should be this year, and we hear about the new defense being installed, but I can't say that I have heard one single word about the kickers yet.....that scares the hell out of me.

Thoughts??
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Re: Kickers😰😰
« Reply #1 on: April 14, 2017, 06:33:41 am »

What I have been hearing on local talk radio is "no standouts."  Our special teams, kick coverage and FG especially, have been significant contributors to our "lack of success" in the CBB era.  I hope there are some surprises here, but I'm not expecting any.
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Re: Kickers😰😰
« Reply #2 on: April 14, 2017, 06:52:50 am »

What I have been hearing on local talk radio is "no standouts."  Our special teams, kick coverage and FG especially, have been significant contributors to our "lack of success" in the CBB era.  I hope there are some surprises here, but I'm not expecting any.
is it too late to bring in another kicker from a juco, or maybe even offer a late scholly? To a high school player? A kicker doesn't need to learn a play book, if he can kick you just plug and play.
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Re: Kickers😰😰
« Reply #3 on: April 14, 2017, 07:15:33 am »

The kickers were perfect in Saturdays scrimmage. Someone made one from 40+, cant remember who it was though
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Re: Kickers😰😰
« Reply #4 on: April 14, 2017, 07:33:32 am »

The kickers were perfect in Saturdays scrimmage. Someone made one from 40+, cant remember who it was though

This, all three were perfect. Not sure if that is normal for scrimmage but can't be a bad thing. Definitely the kicking game will be very important as always. Will miss our rock star punter as well.
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Re: Kickers😰😰
« Reply #5 on: April 14, 2017, 07:37:57 am »

The kickers were perfect in Saturdays scrimmage. Someone made one from 40+, cant remember who it was though
Hedlund, they were 4/4 with the longest being 46 yards.
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Re: Kickers😰😰
« Reply #7 on: April 14, 2017, 08:48:23 am »

We hear about how good the offense should be this year, and we hear about the new defense being installed, but I can't say that I have heard one single word about the kickers yet.....that scares the hell out of me.

Thoughts??
pay attention. I think there was a post that included coaches comments that Cole is 100 % in scrimmages
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Re: Kickers😰😰
« Reply #8 on: April 14, 2017, 09:29:56 am »

"lack of success" in the CBB era.


Hocker spoiled us with the FG kicking, we got lucky with having a local boy staying home. Other than that the FG unit hasn't been very strong that i can remember. Bielema era or not.
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Re: Kickers😰😰
« Reply #9 on: April 14, 2017, 10:36:32 am »



Hocker spoiled us with the FG kicking, we got lucky with having a local boy staying home. Other than that the FG unit hasn't been very strong that i can remember. Bielema era or not.

Traditionally Arkansas has had very good kickers, much better than average. Just hasn't happened during CBB era
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Re: Kickers😰😰
« Reply #10 on: April 14, 2017, 11:44:51 am »

We hear about how good the offense should be this year, and we hear about the new defense being installed, but I can't say that I have heard one single word about the kickers yet.....that scares the hell out of me.

Thoughts??
It's the same thing every year. No one talks about the kickers, when it decides about 2-3 games a year. EVERY YEAR.
I'll never understand it.
Instead, everyone wants to talk about tackles, WRs, backup QB, new assistant coaches, etc etc. Anything and everything except kicking.

I started a thread last year on same subject. Wasn't confident in Hedlund. Guess what happened? He lost his job to McFain, and that move should have happened earlier. Now we're seemingly back to Hedlund.
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Re: Kickers😰😰
« Reply #11 on: April 14, 2017, 11:46:39 am »

The kickers were perfect in Saturdays scrimmage. Someone made one from 40+, cant remember who it was though
And we heard this last year, too. Kickers were doing fine in scrimmages.
Then the games begin and things changed.
Not saying that will happen again....but that's exactly what has happened in the past.
But this kinda fits into my thought process about practices and scrimmages. They're not meaningless, but the only true tale is when the lights come on.
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Re: Kickers😰😰
« Reply #12 on: April 14, 2017, 12:06:34 pm »

It's the same thing every year. No one talks about the kickers, when it decides about 2-3 games a year. EVERY YEAR.
I'll never understand it.
Instead, everyone wants to talk about tackles, WRs, backup QB, new assistant coaches, etc etc. Anything and everything except kicking.

I started a thread last year on same subject. Wasn't confident in Hedlund. Guess what happened? He lost his job to McFain, and that move should have happened earlier. Now we're seemingly back to Hedlund.
Did you forget who the kicker was in the bowl game? Hedlund missed 2 kicks last year. Blake Johnson boomed punts in his limited opportunities, I think the kicking game will be good to above average.
I looked it up and the 2 of them missed 4 kicks, 3 from over 40, pretty solid performance.
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Re: Kickers😰😰
« Reply #13 on: April 14, 2017, 12:20:58 pm »

It's the same thing every year. No one talks about the kickers, when it decides about 2-3 games a year. EVERY YEAR.
I'll never understand it.
Instead, everyone wants to talk about tackles, WRs, backup QB, new assistant coaches, etc etc. Anything and everything except kicking.

I started a thread last year on same subject. Wasn't confident in Hedlund. Guess what happened? He lost his job to McFain, and that move should have happened earlier. Now we're seemingly back to Hedlund.

And Hedlund  won the job back at the end of the year, so??
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Re: Kickers😰😰
« Reply #14 on: April 14, 2017, 12:26:37 pm »

is it too late to bring in another kicker from a juco, or maybe even offer a late scholly? To a high school player? A kicker doesn't need to learn a play book, if he can kick you just plug and play.

Does that ever happen?
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Re: Kickers😰😰
« Reply #15 on: April 14, 2017, 12:28:24 pm »

Man, I've almost given up on the idea of having a truly elite kicker. In my high school and college years, the Hogs had one great kicker after another. Many of them All-Americans—Little, Lahay, Trainor.

Now I just want one who's consistent and can hit a chip shot when called on.
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Re: Kickers😰😰
« Reply #16 on: April 14, 2017, 12:37:53 pm »

We hear about how good the offense should be this year, and we hear about the new defense being installed, but I can't say that I have heard one single word about the kickers yet.....that scares the hell out of me.

Thoughts??

You are scared because you haven't been keeping up with practice reports?
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Re: Kickers😰😰
« Reply #17 on: April 14, 2017, 05:32:58 pm »

You are scared because you haven't been keeping up with practice reports?
It's sunny out but I haven't checked the weather so I'm scared there may be a tornado two blocks from my house!
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Re: Kickers😰😰
« Reply #18 on: April 14, 2017, 05:48:53 pm »

You are scared because you haven't been keeping up with practice reports?

Hes scared because he should be.... and doesn't buy the spring BS any longer.
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« Reply #19 on: April 14, 2017, 05:59:09 pm »

Hes scared because he should be.... and doesn't buy the spring BS any longer.

He said he is scared because he hasn't heard anything. Not that he doesn't believe what he has heard. However, since plenty of words have been spoken by the coaches about the kicking game, that he hasn't heard means he hasn't been listening. In this instance, hasn't heard anything is logically equivalent to not listening to the coach's interviews.
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« Reply #20 on: April 14, 2017, 07:19:42 pm »

Man, I've almost given up on the idea of having a truly elite kicker. In my high school and college years, the Hogs had one great kicker after another. Many of them All-Americans—Little, Lahay, Trainor.

Now I just want one who's consistent and can hit a chip shot when called on.

Ummm... Hocker??
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Re: Kickers😰😰
« Reply #21 on: April 15, 2017, 11:06:05 am »

Ummm... Hocker??

I was just talking about the old days. Yeah, Hocker was outstanding.
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« Reply #22 on: April 15, 2017, 12:11:54 pm »

Let coach B take care of it and me I will just relax, drink a beer, pat a pretty little girl on the butt and think about football later. Now that's a plan.  :razorback:
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« Reply #23 on: April 15, 2017, 01:20:20 pm »

I was just talking about the old days. Yeah, Hocker was outstanding.
Yes, Hocker was the last guy who you had confidence that he would make the kick for 40 yards in---and actually stood a good shot from 40-50. Even nailed a few 50+.

The point to this thread is twofold 1) the kicking game is perennially overlooked for some strange reason 2) there isn't much confidence of a reliable kicker now. It's a show-me world and Hedlund hasn't shown to be reliable in games. We're not talking perfection...even Hocker although great career had a subpar 2012(when the entire program tanked, too). But it's about inspiring confidence. One of those things that you know it when you feel it.
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Re: Kickers😰😰
« Reply #24 on: April 15, 2017, 01:58:18 pm »

Had another good day kicking. Everyone was perfect except hedlund, his only miss was a 38 yarder from the right hash near the end of the scrimmagw
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« Reply #25 on: April 15, 2017, 02:41:29 pm »

Speaking of kicking game, what are we gonna do at punter? Sounds like Coach B has up and had it with Blake Johnson. Hurt his ankle/foot in some 'activities away from football' (Row Week?) If you remember, got arrested for pissing on a light pole drunk. Understand he is a young kid that likes to have fun, but he was highly ranked coming out of HS and hasn't shown well in practice. Job is his for taking this year, but looks to have pissed it away (see what I did there?) and now talks of him being kicked off the team. Currently removed from program and sent back to Cali for Easter weekend already.
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« Reply #26 on: April 15, 2017, 02:41:52 pm »

Sounds like we may need a punter, Johnson sent home for Easter, will find out his fate on Monday. He hurt himself in off field activities.
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« Reply #27 on: April 15, 2017, 02:52:28 pm »

Hedlund is battled tested, good and bad.. he's improved, changed.. improved again.. he'll be ready and give us 3 good years... 

Johnson could be a beast..  depth overall should improve the coverage teams and JC looked decent/safe with the PR... hopefully, we're solid if nothing else.. as another poster said.. special teams have not been special in CBB era..
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Re: Kickers😰😰
« Reply #28 on: April 15, 2017, 09:51:55 pm »

If I'm not mistaken, the state's top K/P from the c/o 2017 is still available and is highly-regarded.

https://www.hudl.com/video/3/4419955/57d5d5df3bd8141d2817127b

https://twitter.com/JasonRonnel/status/835932701018439680
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« Reply #29 on: April 16, 2017, 10:14:00 am »

We should get this guy. #1 kicker in the country
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« Reply #30 on: April 16, 2017, 07:37:24 pm »

I don't care who the kickers are this year. But Beilema has way too much trouble finding kickers!

It shouldn't be this hard to find kickers or to block for FGs. It just shouldn't.. Shows a poorly coached special teams.
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« Reply #31 on: April 16, 2017, 07:41:38 pm »

You mean we didn't get any blocked? Wow.
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Re: Kickers😰😰
« Reply #32 on: April 16, 2017, 07:44:36 pm »

Hedlund was # 1 and all the experts raving about him . Blake was highly rated as well . what you can't tell is heart and head . kickers have been known to be head cases and we have had several of those
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Re: Kickers😰😰
« Reply #33 on: April 18, 2017, 08:03:11 am »

With all the soccer that's being played in NWA I don't understand the difficulty in getting a quality kicker and punter--every year.
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« Reply #34 on: April 18, 2017, 08:39:53 am »

You would have to admit that Coach B got spoiled by Hocker. He has had some good punters. I would like to see a solid KO, FG and Punt kicker. I hope to see a KO kicker that will bury it in the end zone on a regular basis.





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Re: Kickers😰😰
« Reply #35 on: April 18, 2017, 09:04:07 am »

Man, I've almost given up on the idea of having a truly elite kicker. In my high school and college years, the Hogs had one great kicker after another. Many of them All-Americans—Little, Lahay, Trainor.

Now I just want one who's consistent and can hit a chip shot when called on.

I agree we used to have great ones all the time.
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« Reply #36 on: April 18, 2017, 09:05:19 am »

It's time for Cole and Blake to live up to their potential.
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« Reply #37 on: April 18, 2017, 02:41:29 pm »

It's time for Cole and Blake to live up to their potential.

Amen !!!
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