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Re: SEC's Sleeping Giant
« Reply #50 on: April 13, 2017, 08:17:40 am »

Lol this place is in such denial on what a great coach can accomplish in even year one.


So when Texas fails to win the national championship next year we can count on you to come on here and admit you were wrong?
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Re: SEC's Sleeping Giant
« Reply #51 on: April 13, 2017, 08:39:51 am »

Read something interesting about A&M last week, they don't have a player on their team who was alive the last time the aggies beat LSU.

The aggies are 1-8 in their last nine games against Ole Miss, Miss State, & LSU.

Exactly.  They don't "collapse" the second half of every year.  They just play the teams they can beat early, then play the teams that they can't beat late.  Their win over UCLA last year was a "top 20" win...then UCLA played the rest of their season and finished 4-8.

A&M has been overrated for years.  Last year we had people saying they might be the best team in the country and would probably beat Alabama.   How many years of observing the same thing over and over does it take to learn?  Although I guess there is the school of thought that if you keep predicting something long enough it will eventually be true...
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Re: SEC's Sleeping Giant
« Reply #52 on: April 13, 2017, 08:56:17 am »

No, for 2 reasons:

1.  They have never been a historically dominant program (their national championships were pre-WWII).  At their height they were consistently good, not great.  To assume they will achieve greatness without historical precedent is very speculative.

2.  College station.  If you've ever been, it's just as bad as Starkville, minus the african-american culture.  College station is for nerds and farm boys (which is fine, unless you are trying to cultivate the epicenter of college football).
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Re: SEC's Sleeping Giant
« Reply #53 on: April 13, 2017, 09:12:38 am »

And the potential at Texas is huge for national championships too..
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Re: SEC's Sleeping Giant
« Reply #54 on: April 13, 2017, 09:17:43 am »

Saban isn't In the west?   What did I miss?
Yeah I could have worded that better.
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Re: SEC's Sleeping Giant
« Reply #55 on: April 13, 2017, 09:29:05 am »

According to Bo Bounds (ESPN Radio) Texas A&M is a sleeping giant in the SEC that should take over the minute Saban steps away, but is being held back by Sumlin. He believes that if they were able to get a great coach to go along with those strong recruiting classes, they'll be making SEC Championship runs, possibly even National Championship runs. What do you guys think?
1. The Hogs are the sleeping giant in the SEC.
2. Sumlin is the reason they are having those strong recruiting classes.
3. The Hogs are the sleeping giant in the SEC. :razorback:
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Re: SEC's Sleeping Giant
« Reply #56 on: April 13, 2017, 02:42:58 pm »

They are sleeping Aggies.  Bo don't know Aggies.  Bo Bounds during an interview on Bo Mattingly's show last year was surprised that Arkansas had played more games against teams ranked #1, he attributed this to all those games against Oklahoma.  That told me all I needed to know about Bo Bounds.
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Re: SEC's Sleeping Giant
« Reply #57 on: April 13, 2017, 04:15:18 pm »

According to Bo Bounds (ESPN Radio) Texas A&M is a sleeping giant in the SEC that should take over the minute Saban steps away, but is being held back by Sumlin. He believes that if they were able to get a great coach to go along with those strong recruiting classes, they'll be making SEC Championship runs, possibly even National Championship runs. What do you guys think?

I've said this since they joined the SEC.  "Aggies gonna Aggie" they say.  Man, with their resources and recruiting base....hire a better coach than the Longhorns and look out.  I honestly thought Sumlin was the man, but he has 'issues'.
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Re: SEC's Sleeping Giant
« Reply #58 on: April 13, 2017, 04:25:28 pm »

I've said this since they joined the SEC.  "Aggies gonna Aggie" they say.  Man, with their resources and recruiting base....hire a better coach than the Longhorns and look out.  I honestly thought Sumlin was the man, but he has 'issues'.

There is something going on there (with Sumlin and staff) that isn't right. They do have too much talent to choke in the second half each season. Is it the way Sumlin manages the program? Or something else? I don't know but it likely doesn't have as much to do with playing a more difficult schedule in the second half of their season than the first half as it does with something coming apart at the seams as the season progresses.

I thought Sumlin would be the guy as well but that doesn't seem to be the case. I always thought Texas was a program just waiting for the right coach. I think A&M is the same. Similar to Georgia who has so much talent but who seemed to drop the ball at the most unexpected times...that was the knock on Richt.
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Re: SEC's Sleeping Giant
« Reply #59 on: April 13, 2017, 04:31:21 pm »

There is something going on there (with Sumlin and staff) that isn't right. They do have too much talent to choke in the second half each season. Is it the way Sumlin manages the program? Or something else? I don't know but it likely doesn't have as much to do with playing a more difficult schedule in the second half of their season than the first half as it does with something coming apart at the seams as the season progresses.

I thought Sumlin would be the guy as well but that doesn't seem to be the case. I always thought Texas was a program just waiting for the right coach. I think A&M is the same. Similar to Georgia who has so much talent but who seemed to drop the ball at the most unexpected times...that was the knock on Richt.

Good comparison with Georgia.  I'll refrain from anything referring to something closer to home, but I think Sumlin has a booze problem and when the season heats up late in the year....he medicates.  Just a thought.  As for Richt, that never would have been the case, he just couldn't close the deal.
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Re: SEC's Sleeping Giant
« Reply #60 on: April 13, 2017, 06:26:07 pm »


So when Texas fails to win the national championship next year we can count on you to come on here and admit you were wrong?

You can count on me to run everyone's face in the mud here as well as the assinine thread from a "journalist" that was started two weeks ago. Incredible talent with maybe the best coach in the nation. Book it.
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Re: SEC's Sleeping Giant
« Reply #61 on: April 13, 2017, 06:38:41 pm »

You can count on me to run everyone's face in the mud here as well as the assinine thread from a "journalist" that was started two weeks ago. Incredible talent with maybe the best coach in the nation. Book it.

Texas is not going to win the NC in 2017-18. You are either dreaming or investing yourself in strong drink. Do I think Herman can bring them back to being nationally competitive? Yes, eventually.
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« Reply #62 on: April 13, 2017, 06:57:27 pm »

Texas is not going to win the NC in 2017-18. You are either dreaming or investing yourself in strong drink. Do I think Herman can bring them back to being nationally competitive? Yes, eventually.

Well I got a payoff on Sergio winning so I think I'm on a hot streak. Somehow you guys are so offended that Tom Herman is a top coach.
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Re: SEC's Sleeping Giant
« Reply #63 on: April 13, 2017, 07:12:21 pm »

Well I got a payoff on Sergio winning so I think I'm on a hot streak. Somehow you guys are so offended that Tom Herman is a top coach.

Offended, no. Rational, yes. And if you bet on Sergio very often to win a major you are definitely a long shot junkie which automatically reduces your likely odds of success. I would think that you would have learned from that.
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Re: SEC's Sleeping Giant
« Reply #64 on: April 13, 2017, 07:20:33 pm »

Saban will just be replaced by Dabo and they will keep on rolling...
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Re: SEC's Sleeping Giant
« Reply #65 on: April 13, 2017, 07:21:55 pm »

Saban will just be replaced by Dabo and they will keep on rolling...

Probably right....
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Re: SEC's Sleeping Giant
« Reply #66 on: April 13, 2017, 07:37:10 pm »

Saban will just be replaced by Dabo and they will keep on rolling...

Dabo is good, but he isn't a Saban.
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Re: SEC's Sleeping Giant
« Reply #67 on: April 13, 2017, 09:17:04 pm »

Is it ok when I refer back to this thread calling you- Musk-fraud-gee ? Good times ahead.... hell and I even hate Texas. I just think it will go a long way teaching you men what a real coach is.
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« Reply #68 on: April 13, 2017, 09:21:26 pm »

You guys just have no idea what I saw. I'm a season ticket holder and booster for UH as well.
I didn't want the hire but he was hired. By week two that guy had the athletes marching around like the Nazi SS... and I'm not exaggerating... I can't even say I like Herman. He is really a sociopath imo. But from what I've seen up close I already know that Texas players are ready to take on the world. You guys will see.
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Re: SEC's Sleeping Giant
« Reply #69 on: April 13, 2017, 09:30:34 pm »

Marching like the SS is not a useful football skill.

If it took him took weeks to teach them something like that, then I really like their odds to not win the national championship.
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« Reply #70 on: April 13, 2017, 09:41:22 pm »

Marching like the SS is not a useful football skill.

If it took him took weeks to teach them something like that, then I really like their odds to not win the national championship.

Clever guy. Funny stuff. Please reply. This is one of those called paramount threads where so many people lose credibility.... we just need the "journalist" to chime in now:
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Re: SEC's Sleeping Giant
« Reply #71 on: April 13, 2017, 09:46:42 pm »

Hamsammich is giving me those Sportster365 vibes. I'd go put money on uterus not winning but the payout would suck
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Re: SEC's Sleeping Giant
« Reply #72 on: April 13, 2017, 10:15:48 pm »

Texas is not going to win the NC in 2017-18. You are either dreaming or investing yourself in strong drink. Do I think Herman can bring them back to being nationally competitive? Yes, eventually.


Herman seems like a great hire but there is a huge difference between turning Texas around in year one and winning the national championship.

Saban, Swinney and Meyer could coach Texas together next year and they wouldn't win it all

 
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Re: SEC's Sleeping Giant
« Reply #73 on: April 13, 2017, 11:45:38 pm »

Clever guy. Funny stuff. Please reply. This is one of those called paramount threads where so many people lose credibility.... we just need the "journalist" to chime in now:

It's official, hamsammich considers himself to be so many people.

Kind of feel bad for making fun of him (them?) now.
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Re: SEC's Sleeping Giant
« Reply #74 on: April 14, 2017, 01:14:44 am »

Maybe more like a coma giant ? Could very well wake up, but the chances aren't good to have a program with sustained success in today's landscape. Too much technology and competition readily available to all that makes playing fields more even. Yes, they'll have up years that are really great and borderline championship because if they somehow win SEC, they're in Nat'l Title conversation. But to be a giant would mean dynasty (at least to my ears)
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« Reply #75 on: April 14, 2017, 06:23:21 am »

You guys just have no idea what I saw. I'm a season ticket holder and booster for UH as well.
I didn't want the hire but he was hired. By week two that guy had the athletes marching around like the Nazi SS... and I'm not exaggerating... I can't even say I like Herman. He is really a sociopath imo. But from what I've seen up close I already know that Texas players are ready to take on the world. You guys will see.

Even for someone who is just trolling us, it probably isn't ever a good idea to reference the Nazi SS as an example.
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« Reply #76 on: April 14, 2017, 06:46:48 am »

And the potential at Texas is huge for national championships too..

How many have they won lately. Only one. Which is another indicator of how hard it actually is to do so. ANY school has to get the right coach at the right time. The problem is nobody can predict or know when that place and time is. That's what makes Saban's multi NC's so incredible and proof of his program organizational skills, coaching and recruiting abilities.
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« Reply #77 on: April 19, 2017, 10:40:58 am »

Dabo is good, but he isn't a Saban.
He just beat Saban with MUCH less talent.
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