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Congratulations to Joe Johnson on being the 47th NBA player to score 20,000 pts.

Started by ErieHog, April 09, 2017, 12:14:07 am

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ErieHog

All retired players who are eligible for the Hall, who have 20,000 points, are in, except Tom Chambers and Antawn Jamison.

Joe is at 20,006 career points after a 13 point night tonight.  If he returns for another season and plays reasonably well, he may crack the Top 40 all time in NBA scoring.
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Interesting in part for the fact that JJ has done it pretty much "flying under the radar". Typically don't hear that much about him.

ErieHog

Quote from: Vantage 8 dude on April 09, 2017, 03:50:39 pm
Interesting in part for the fact that JJ has done it pretty much "flying under the radar". Typically don't hear that much about him.

He spent a decade as one of the most decorated players in the NBA;  the guy made 7 All NBA teams-- I don't see how that's flying under the radar.
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Quote from: ErieHog on April 09, 2017, 04:05:05 pm
He spent a decade as one of the most decorated players in the NBA;  the guy made 7 All NBA teams-- I don't see how that's flying under the radar.
I thought he meant when he said "flying under the radar" as being that Joe was never considered one of the "elite players" during his career. Not a guy you saw marketing companies throwing their cash and products at him for endorsements.

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Quote from: BrooklynRoss on April 09, 2017, 03:10:58 pm
Nice! Hard to believe Chambers isn't in. He should get some looks based on this dunk alone:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UDyBSTQDwH8.

This is the dunk I show young folks who think nothing tops recent ones.
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Quote from: ErieHog on April 09, 2017, 04:05:05 pm
He spent a decade as one of the most decorated players in the NBA;  the guy made 7 All NBA teams-- I don't see how that's flying under the radar.

No one talks about Joe in the media or by the fans.  Heck i didnt even know he went to Utah.  Maybe because he is a quite individual.
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Cool part about this story is that the game ball was given to Damian Lillard because he scored a career high 59 points in their win, but when he heard that JJ got his 20,000 point he sent the game ball to the Jazz locker room. Classy move.

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Quote from: Adam Stokes on April 10, 2017, 11:29:08 am
Cool part about this story is that the game ball was given to Damian Lillard because he scored a career high 59 points in their win, but when he heard that JJ got his 20,000 point he sent the game ball to the Jazz locker room. Classy move.

that's awesome

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Quote from: BrooklynRoss on April 09, 2017, 03:10:58 pm
Nice! Hard to believe Chambers isn't in. He should get some looks based on this dunk alone:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UDyBSTQDwH8.

No kidding. That was a knee to the chin!
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ErieHog

Quote from: BigSexyHog on April 10, 2017, 09:56:29 am
No one talks about Joe in the media or by the fans.  Heck i didnt even know he went to Utah.  Maybe because he is a quite individual.

Joe gets pretty decent pub, for where he is in his career.   The reason he's not on headlines isn't because he's unrecognized-- its because he's a 6th to 8th player in a rotation nowadays.   Rodney Hood isn't exactly burning up the headlines, and Joe is his back up
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Quote from: ErieHog on April 09, 2017, 12:14:07 am
All retired players who are eligible for the Hall, who have 20,000 points, are in, except Tom Chambers and Antawn Jamison.

Joe is at 20,006 career points after a 13 point night tonight.  If he returns for another season and plays reasonably well, he may crack the Top 40 all time in NBA scoring.

He needs to be talked about more often.  Per NBA on ESPN‏:

Most Game-Winning Buzzer-Beaters In The Last 10 Seasons
Joe Johnson: 8
LeBron James: 4
Andre Iguodala: 4
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ErieHog

Quote from: Wayne Watson on April 16, 2017, 12:38:30 pm
He needs to be talked about more often.  Per NBA on ESPN‏:

Most Game-Winning Buzzer-Beaters In The Last 10 Seasons
Joe Johnson: 8
LeBron James: 4
Andre Iguodala: 4

He's so far on the downside of his career, that he's not going to get that kind of attention.  Its just how it is-- recency is what dominates coverage.
No cause, ever, in the history of all mankind, has produced more cold-blooded tyrants, more slaughtered innocents, and more orphans than socialism with power. It surpassed, exponentially, all other systems of production in turning out the dead. The bodies are all around us. And here is the problem: No one talks about them. No one honors them. No one does penance for them. No one has committed suicide for having been an apologist for those who did this to them. No one pays for them. No one is hunted down to account for them. It is exactly what Solzhenitsyn foresaw in The Gulag Archipelago: "No, no one would have to answer. No one would be looked into." Until that happens, there is no "after socialism."

 

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Quote from: ErieHog on April 16, 2017, 01:23:07 pm
He's so far on the downside of his career, that he's not going to get that kind of attention.  Its just how it is-- recency is what dominates coverage.

He never truly got the recognition he deserved.  All throughout his career he got things done. 

Joe wasn't a very marketable player because he was so quiet and low key.  But that's what I love about the guy.  He didn't need to dunk on people to average 20 plus points per game in a few seasons. 

HiggiePiggy

Quote from: razorbackfan4life on April 16, 2017, 02:19:36 pm
He never truly got the recognition he deserved.  All throughout his career he got things done. 

Joe wasn't a very marketable player because he was so quiet and low key.  But that's what I love about the guy.  He didn't need to dunk on people to average 20 plus points per game in a few seasons. 

It's mostly because the teams he was on never did much in the playoffs. 
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ErieHog

Quote from: HiggiePiggy on April 16, 2017, 02:46:44 pm
It's mostly because the teams he was on never did much in the playoffs. 

12 playoff appearances, not even a single Conference Finals.    That's rough.
No cause, ever, in the history of all mankind, has produced more cold-blooded tyrants, more slaughtered innocents, and more orphans than socialism with power. It surpassed, exponentially, all other systems of production in turning out the dead. The bodies are all around us. And here is the problem: No one talks about them. No one honors them. No one does penance for them. No one has committed suicide for having been an apologist for those who did this to them. No one pays for them. No one is hunted down to account for them. It is exactly what Solzhenitsyn foresaw in The Gulag Archipelago: "No, no one would have to answer. No one would be looked into." Until that happens, there is no "after socialism."

ErieHog

Quote from: razorbackfan4life on April 16, 2017, 02:19:36 pm
He never truly got the recognition he deserved.  All throughout his career he got things done. 

Joe wasn't a very marketable player because he was so quiet and low key.  But that's what I love about the guy.  He didn't need to dunk on people to average 20 plus points per game in a few seasons. 

I'm not sure how much more recognition guys can get, than being on 2 All-NBA teams and a 7 time All-Star.     For a guy who is a half-tick below the best players of his generation,  its nothing short of amazing.
No cause, ever, in the history of all mankind, has produced more cold-blooded tyrants, more slaughtered innocents, and more orphans than socialism with power. It surpassed, exponentially, all other systems of production in turning out the dead. The bodies are all around us. And here is the problem: No one talks about them. No one honors them. No one does penance for them. No one has committed suicide for having been an apologist for those who did this to them. No one pays for them. No one is hunted down to account for them. It is exactly what Solzhenitsyn foresaw in The Gulag Archipelago: "No, no one would have to answer. No one would be looked into." Until that happens, there is no "after socialism."

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got the recognition at the bank.  A few years ago he was the highest paid player (for that year) or among the top 3.  Really a good career and when you listen to Steve Nash ask how he felt after they traded him for Boris Diaw.  He was not happy with the trade but knew that Joe wanted out of Phoenix for a bigger opportunity.

HiggiePiggy

Quote from: ErieHog on April 16, 2017, 03:31:44 pm
12 playoff appearances, not even a single Conference Finals.    That's rough.

And that is why he isn't talked about a lot. He isn't the player that takes a team on his shoulders and gets them into a finals or even close.
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Quote from: ErieHog on April 16, 2017, 03:31:44 pm
12 playoff appearances, not even a single Conference Finals.    That's rough.

Joe Johnson made a conference final with the suns

King Kong

Quote from: HiggiePiggy on April 16, 2017, 04:39:46 pm
And that is why he isn't talked about a lot. He isn't the player that takes a team on his shoulders and gets them into a finals or even close.

If that's the reason why did Tracy McGrady get so much run

ErieHog

Quote from: King Kong on April 16, 2017, 04:47:36 pm
Joe Johnson made a conference final with the suns

Ah, I forgot they got boatraced by the Spurs after sweeping the opener and dominating the semi.  Joe has still only played 3 games at that level, in his entire career--  he missed 2 of the 5 games in the series.
No cause, ever, in the history of all mankind, has produced more cold-blooded tyrants, more slaughtered innocents, and more orphans than socialism with power. It surpassed, exponentially, all other systems of production in turning out the dead. The bodies are all around us. And here is the problem: No one talks about them. No one honors them. No one does penance for them. No one has committed suicide for having been an apologist for those who did this to them. No one pays for them. No one is hunted down to account for them. It is exactly what Solzhenitsyn foresaw in The Gulag Archipelago: "No, no one would have to answer. No one would be looked into." Until that happens, there is no "after socialism."

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Quote from: BrooklynRoss on April 09, 2017, 03:10:58 pm
Nice! Hard to believe Chambers isn't in. He should get some looks based on this dunk alone:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UDyBSTQDwH8.

Tom Chambers is one of my all-time favorites. Dude was a beast. A very athletic 6' 10".
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