Anytime you want to explain to me what Petrino is doing in recruiting

[Biggus Piggus]

this year, go right ahead.

What the holy Frank?

[keithh1999]

I will call and ask him.

What are you talking about? Honestly.

[passinghog]

You're not the only that was confused by this thread.
Is this supposed to be a positive or negative topic question? Many are confused...

[LJHOG]

I know the answer.  He and the rest of the staff have evaluated the players currently on the squad.  From there they have developed a list of both immediate and long-term need positions.  Next they have gone about evaluating the available players who fit those needs and assigned a ranking to each.  Now they are in the process of reevaluating that list and offering players they think fit the bill.  At this point I'd say things are going pretty well.

[farmhawg]

this year, go right ahead.

What the holy Frank?

WTH?

[Razorod]

Perhaps--why offer Uekman instead of Mosely when there isn't much difference between the two and by not offering Mosely you alienate Dyer? Other than that, I don't know.

[newera]

I will put my trust in Petrino until he fails me.

[SquidBilly]

He's offerring the best kids available rather than just the best kids from the state of Arkansas.  He is recruiting the way we pay him to do it.  He's not being paid to field an Arkansas high school all star team as some seem to believe he should be.

[Razorod]

Don't get me wrong. I'm just guessing at the reason for Biggus' question.

[doublep]

Perhaps--why offer Uekman instead of Mosely when there isn't much difference between the two and by not offering Mosely you alienate Dyer? Other than that, I don't know.

Maybe they see a large difference between the two.

[creecy]

Petrino will offer who he thinks is best. U may not see a big difference between mosley and uekman but maybe he does.  When you become coach you can make that call. Until then I trust petrino. 

[Razorod]

good grief--I'm just trying to answer the question posed at the top of the thread, I've not seen either one play and have no idea who's the better or how much better one is than the other.

[SquidBilly]

good grief--I'm just trying to answer the question posed at the top of the thread, I've not seen either one play and have no idea who's the better or how much better one is than the other.

I don't think anyone is attacking you.  I know my post definitely wasn't.  I was simply answering the OP's question also.  There are some on here though that think Petrino should be obligated to offer all of the good Arkansas kids.

[ki285]

offering the guys he thinks will get us to the next level.  i assume you are talking about the whole dyer situation.  if petrino doesnt think mosley deserves a scholarship he isnt gonna be like auburn and offer him 1 to try and get dyer

[The real Hogules]

Perhaps--why offer Uekman instead of Mosely when there isn't much difference between the two and by not offering Mosely you alienate Dyer? Other than that, I don't know.

Seriously though, CBP must see a huge difference in Ukeman's ability over than of Mosley at the TE position, or otherwise he'd offer Mosley to increase his chances of landing a 5 star stud TB like Dyer.

I am sometimes amazed at the level of suspicion some of our fans have towards our coaches and their motives in recruiting, then I remember how our last head coach and his posse conducted themselves and completely understand to an extent...................

[Razorod]

I don't think anyone is attacking you.  I know my post definitely wasn't.  I was simply answering the OP's question also.  There are some on here though that think Petrino should be obligated to offer all of the good Arkansas kids.

I didn't feel attacked. I just want to be clear that Im not questioning Petrino. all the fuss is about dyer/mosely so i assumed that's what biggus is getting at. from what i can tell, uekman is regarded by those who have seen them play as a better prospect, but perhaps not by much--especially if you consider that Petrino gave him a time frame to commit in. my suspicion is that IF there is not much difference between the two why not offer the guy who has the relationship with Dyer? Both are from Arkansas, in this case it's not about out-of-state vs. in-state. But, running back is not a high need position for us, so I guess petrino went ahead and went with the TE he felt fit better for him and I'm fine with that. I'm also confident that Petrino will sign a very good back if not dyer.

[hawgsmellgud]

this year, go right ahead.

What the holy Frank?

Anytime you want to explain to me why you are a HDN fan this year, go right ahead.

What the holy Biggus Piggus.



News flash... We control the kids we recruit these days not the other way around.

[PigWig]

Maybe they see a large difference between the two.

Because there is a large difference.  Uekman has the speed, size, and tools to be an SEC player. 

[Razorod]

Because there is a large difference.  Uekman has the speed, size, and tools to be an SEC player. 

this is my suspicion as well. auburn is only offering to have a shot at dyer. chizik has to roll the dice to have a shot.

[OLDHOG]

I have never seen Mosley play, but I know Uekman's aunt and she told me he was playing in a basketball thing last weekend. That suggests to me an athletic player. Maybe that's what Petrino sees?

[Kenny Hawgins]

i see no reason to start questioning petrino yet.

1) he wasn't left much to work with so i'll give him a pass on last year
2) he has already done a very good job recruiting despite many disadvantages thanks to the previous staff and the national media and has upgraded talent already on campus through a very good strength and conditioning program
3) his history suggests that he knows how to evaluate and develop talent (even players that aren't rated highly) and build a team to fit his players' strengths

as long as we see progress on the field, i see no reason to question what he's doing.

[Kenny Hawgins]

this is my suspicion as well. auburn is only offering to have a shot at dyer. chizik has to roll the dice to have a shot.

they offered a lesser rated player from olive branch last year.  i suspect it was to try to get aubrey phillips.  phillips went to fsu and the guy they offered took the scholarship offer from auburn. 

[Bubba's Bruisers]

BP certainly understands two facts...

1.  There are still 8 months to NSD.
2.  On NSD, the so-called "package" deal almost never actually occurs.

We'll see.

[MJ2]

With Petrino there is a little different dynamic in place.   He has no real ties to AR, and his boss (Jeff Long) is not as linked to any specific alums or donors, so there is not a built in need to recruit as many in state kids.   I don't like it either, but ultimately we all want to win and if his method generates wins, I'm okay.  If it goes the other direction and we're losing in staters and then racking up loses to teams loaded with AR kids, then I'll be ready to Bring Home Gus.  For now, let's let Petrino make his decisions on recruits.

[wholehog92]

this year, go right ahead.

What the holy Frank?

Getting the best players he can to fill the positions he sees as a weakness on the football depth chart.  Past history has shown him to be proficient at that very task.  What qualifies you to generically question his methods?

[Table Rocker]

Football knowledge Petrino has in his big toe > Football knowledge Biggus has in his whole body (you could substitute any of our names here)

[beansandtaters]

Petrino really reminds me a lot of Tony LaRussa. Both are so cerebral that everything seems to be well thought out and planned. With coaches like them, they often leave themselves open to criticism by untrusting fans because their decisions often do not flow with the mainstream (i.e. offering uekman instead of mosley).  However, as with Cardinal fans and LaRussa, I think we have to sit back and enjoy the ride.  Petrino is an offensive genius. No one questions his football acumen.  He has a plan and is, no doubt, executing it.  I expect to be pleasantly surprised on national signing day with an excellent class.

[Filthy_McSwine]

Great post, Biggus!!!

[PigPusher]

Petrino and his staff are the experts here and as such I'll bet they know what they are doing.  It might not all be clear to us plebes but there has to be a little trust here.  In the meanwhile I'll defer to the coaches.

[Earl]

nm

[The Hogfather]

This thread has to be an attempt to get hits on the website.  I don't think he's being serious.  At least, I hope not.

[Biggus Piggus]

Anytime you want to explain to me why you are a HDN fan this year, go right ahead.

ROFL!  Intelligent response, that was not.

Let me lay out the bright orange crayon.

1. Very limited scholarships available for 2010 class.
2. First offers go to...players who could be offered in January.

Just because I asked the question doesn't make it a FULL FRONTAL ASSAULT ON ALL HOLY THINGS RAZORBACK.

It's just a question.  Where are the big name recruits?  Is Petrino unable to recruit off the A list yet?  And does anybody understand what is going on with Dyer?

When they recruit a real pro-type left offensive tackle, I'll breathe a sigh of relief.

Good lord.  I guess discussion has gone the way of the dodo around here.  Let's all bow at the altar and place our sacrifices.  Nothing but worship going on here.

[311Hog]

ROFL!  Intelligent response, that was not.

Let me lay out the bright orange crayon.

1. Very limited scholarships available for 2010 class.
2. First offers go to...players who could be offered in January.

Just because I asked the question doesn't make it a FULL FRONTAL ASSAULT ON ALL HOLY THINGS RAZORBACK.

It's just a question.  Where are the big name recruits?  Is Petrino unable to recruit off the A list yet?  And does anybody understand what is going on with Dyer?

When they recruit a real pro-type left offensive tackle, I'll breathe a sigh of relief.

Good lord.  I guess discussion has gone the way of the dodo around here.  Let's all bow at the altar and place our sacrifices.  Nothing but worship going on here.

Hmm internet melodrama check
early summer stale period  check
each and every scrap of recruiting "news" obsessed over and wild proclaimations made check

Im pretty sure this thread was not created to spark conversation of anything other then the troll variety, it is WAY to soon in the process to be this worked up.

[RZRBack_FAN]

they offered a lesser rated player from olive branch last year.  i suspect it was to try to get aubrey phillips.  phillips went to fsu and the guy they offered took the scholarship offer from auburn. 

Lesser rated by who? Rivals? Scout?

Maybe Peteino had him rated higher on his board. I'm pretty sure he doesn't sit down and read rivals and make his offers based on that.

[hoosier]

I know the answer.  He and the rest of the staff have evaluated the players currently on the squad.  From there they have developed a list of both immediate and long-term need positions.  Next they have gone about evaluating the available players who fit those needs and assigned a ranking to each.  Now they are in the process of reevaluating that list and offering players they think fit the bill.  At this point I'd say things are going pretty well.

I would say this answers all your questions.

[DoggtownHog]

It kind of seems like Mosley is trying to force the staff to take him if they want Dyer. I could be wrong, but that's the feeling I get from the situation. Maybe the staff feels this way too and wants to let kids know who is running the show.

[311Hog]

It kind of seems like Mosley is trying to force the staff to take him if they want Dyer. I could be wrong, but that's the feeling I get from the situation. Maybe the staff feels this way too and wants to let kids know who is running the show.

i think that is the "internet" effect, i would doubt that Mosley himself is trying to force anything.  Just the "typing heads" on the internets making big deal out of nothing.

disclaimer: my post is totally my opinion

[SRFL]

ROFL!  Intelligent response, that was not.

Let me lay out the bright orange crayon.

1. Very limited scholarships available for 2010 class.
2. First offers go to...players who could be offered in January.

Just because I asked the question doesn't make it a FULL FRONTAL ASSAULT ON ALL HOLY THINGS RAZORBACK.

It's just a question.  Where are the big name recruits?  Is Petrino unable to recruit off the A list yet?  And does anybody understand what is going on with Dyer?

When they recruit a real pro-type left offensive tackle, I'll breathe a sigh of relief.

Good lord.  I guess discussion has gone the way of the dodo around here.  Let's all bow at the altar and place our sacrifices.  Nothing but worship going on here.

Oy vey.  Do you even know the list of offers out? 

Additionally, maybe he is too preoccupied with Walt getting his son a schollie to Aubbie to do any real work. 

Overreact much?

[Biggus Piggus]

Oy vey.  Do you even know the list of offers out? 

Additionally, maybe he is too preoccupied with Walt getting his son a schollie to Aubbie to do any real work. 

Overreact much?

OK, as long as you're happy, everything's fine.

[SRFL]

What are you unhappy about?  Do yo know just how cryptic yo are being?  throw down about it at least.  Do you know what offers are out and are you happy about them?

[The Hogfather]

2. First offers go to...players who could be offered in January.

Then we wouldn't sign them.  In fact, I think they've done a great job in evaluating guys and they are confident in their evaluations.  Confident enough to let these kids commit to us in May and June.  Petrino is a proven commodity.  He can evaluate talent with the best of them.  I am not worried a bit.  Especially, what, 232 days from signing day.

[Oklahawg]

Biggus, I'll bite.

Are you suggesting that the staff didn't follow through on its self-pronounced ability to recruit vs anyone (last February) and wound up whiffing during the spring eval period? There was a disturbing silence as several top prospects committed elsewhere (Caleb Lavey to Okie State, Joeckel's to A&M, for example) with whom I thought we had a good shot.

[Pork Twain]

ROFL!  Intelligent response, that was not.

Let me lay out the bright orange crayon.

1. Very limited scholarships available for 2010 class.
2. First offers go to...players who could be offered in January.

Just because I asked the question doesn't make it a FULL FRONTAL ASSAULT ON ALL HOLY THINGS RAZORBACK.

It's just a question.  Where are the big name recruits?  Is Petrino unable to recruit off the A list yet?  And does anybody understand what is going on with Dyer?

When they recruit a real pro-type left offensive tackle, I'll breathe a sigh of relief.

Good lord.  I guess discussion has gone the way of the dodo around here.  Let's all bow at the altar and place our sacrifices.  Nothing but worship going on here.

Anytime you can REALLY find something to bitch about, go ahead...

Maybe the players that BP and staff have offered are the ones that they want...

Maybe they still have a good shot at many other players out there, but want to to fill their needs now and cherry pick later.  Does that sound like last year to anyone else?

Maybe he knows what he is doing...  Until he proves that Louisville was a fluke and turns out to be another HDN, he will have my faith.

[The Hogfather]

Maybe he knows what he is doing...

There you go.

[Oliver]

I'll bite too Biggus. 

While I still have confidence in Petrino to pull down another great recruiting class for us, there are some things right now that I've noticed are a little concerning.

I'm interested in what you are concerned about and I hope you express those concerns because unlike others around here I'm never hot on the If You Aren't Kissing Coaches A$#es, You Aren't Contributing attitude.

[311Hog]

I'll bite too Biggus. 

While I still have confidence in Petrino to pull down another great recruiting class for us, there are some things right now that I've noticed are a little concerning.

I'm interested in what you are concerned about and I hope you express those concerns because unlike others around here I'm never hot on the If You Aren't Kissing Coaches A$#es, You Aren't Contributing attitude.

Me either, but 232 days man the recruiting season is barely in it's infancy.  To early for this come back in 4 months.

[SRFL]

Biggus, who are you comparing us to btw?  Texas?  Aggy?  Aubbie?

[Oliver]

Me either, but 232 days man the recruiting season is barely in it's infancy.  To early for this come back in 4 months.

I know.  I'm not ready to jump off a bridge but it's never too early to express concerns. 

[The Hogfather]

Me either, but 232 days man the recruiting season is barely in it's infancy.  To early for this come back in 4 months.

Can someone tell me where we were as far as our recruiting class goes at this point last year?

[hog19911]

ROFL!  Intelligent response, that was not.

Let me lay out the bright orange crayon.

1. Very limited scholarships available for 2010 class.
2. First offers go to...players who could be offered in January.

Just because I asked the question doesn't make it a FULL FRONTAL ASSAULT ON ALL HOLY THINGS RAZORBACK.

It's just a question.  Where are the big name recruits?  Is Petrino unable to recruit off the A list yet?  And does anybody understand what is going on with Dyer?

When they recruit a real pro-type left offensive tackle, I'll breathe a sigh of relief.

Good lord.  I guess discussion has gone the way of the dodo around here.  Let's all bow at the altar and place our sacrifices.  Nothing but worship going on here.

Which players have you evaluated and decided could have been offered in January?
Big name recruits? It's June i wonder how many big name recruits were committed to us at this time last year? Also what is your definitiion of a real pro type left offensive tackle? Because Oden fits that  bill to me.