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CDubyaP

Isn't Tulane known more for academics?

Is this a push by White to continue to push academics more than sports????

SpineHog

Quote from: donewithdale on September 06, 2007, 01:47:43 pm

RD showed leadership and the ability to make a business decision in getting rid of Scelfo.  And considering Tulane's restrictions, Scelfo didn't do a horrible job and has actually put out more and better NFL qb's than the Dale. 
that's like dividing by zero.

everything i've read here so far sounds positive about the guy.  he doesn't tolerate mediocre coaches and has made some solid hiring decisions throughout his career.  oh.  and he knows how to use the internets.

 

TheHogFan

A fresh start is needed, and this hire, if it happens, fits the bill.

The Boar War

Quote from: CDubyaP on September 06, 2007, 01:49:12 pm
Isn't Tulane known more for academics?

Is this a push by White to continue to push academics more than sports????

John White is always going to be an academic guy.  If this is the hire I think it is a good compromise.  I have been very worried about this search.  There is no way White should have been given the go ahead on a one man search.  However if this is the hire I think he did a decent job.

Here's a question:  Does this name have the wow factor Wally was referring to on Sports Rap?

razornole

Quote from: The Boar War on September 06, 2007, 02:11:57 pm
Quote from: CDubyaP on September 06, 2007, 01:49:12 pm
Isn't Tulane known more for academics?

Is this a push by White to continue to push academics more than sports????

John White is always going to be an academic guy.  If this is the hire I think it is a good compromise.  I have been very worried about this search.  There is no way White should have been given the go ahead on a one man search.  However if this is the hire I think he did a decent job.

Here's a question:  Does this name have the wow factor Wally was referring to on Sports Rap?

maybe he meant WOW we are really slippin'
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Fatty McGee

Quote from: The Boar War on September 06, 2007, 02:11:57 pm
Quote from: CDubyaP on September 06, 2007, 01:49:12 pm
Isn't Tulane known more for academics?

Is this a push by White to continue to push academics more than sports????

John White is always going to be an academic guy.  If this is the hire I think it is a good compromise.  I have been very worried about this search.  There is no way White should have been given the go ahead on a one man search.  However if this is the hire I think he did a decent job.

Here's a question:  Does this name have the wow factor Wally was referring to on Sports Rap?

When has White made a poor hire?  Being AD isn't about athletics, it's about management skills and putting the guys who do know athletics, ie. the coaches, in the best position to succeed.
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razornole

didn't he hire bev and the lady lady-back coach?
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Fatty McGee

Quote from: razornole on September 06, 2007, 02:13:27 pm
Quote from: The Boar War on September 06, 2007, 02:11:57 pm
Quote from: CDubyaP on September 06, 2007, 01:49:12 pm
Isn't Tulane known more for academics?

Is this a push by White to continue to push academics more than sports????

John White is always going to be an academic guy.  If this is the hire I think it is a good compromise.  I have been very worried about this search.  There is no way White should have been given the go ahead on a one man search.  However if this is the hire I think he did a decent job.

Here's a question:  Does this name have the wow factor Wally was referring to on Sports Rap?

maybe he meant WOW we are really slippin'

How do you "wow" anyone with an AD hire?  99.9% of the public doesn't know who any other AD is but the guy at their own school and Jeremy Foley.
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Heightshog

Quote from: donewithdale on September 06, 2007, 01:47:43 pm
Quote from: Heightshog on September 06, 2007, 11:56:32 am
The football record since he took over is just awful.  This team has not even been close to the conference championship in one of the worst conferences in division one football.  I'm not going to even bother looking at the basketball record, I'm sure its just as bad.  We can do better than this.

2006  4-8
2005  2-9
2004  5-6
2003  5-7
2002  8-5
2001  3-9
2000  6-5 

He's not being hired to coach.  And didn't he make a change from the coach who posted these results not giving out a free pass for a real "cloud"?  I would say Katrina was a little bigger cloud than two linemen who may have decided to go to another program due to an NCAA investigation.  RD showed leadership and the ability to make a business decision in getting rid of Scelfo.  And considering Tulane's restrictions, Scelfo didn't do a horrible job and has actually put out more and better NFL qb's than the Dale. 

So it only took Rick Dickson 8 years to figure out Chris Scelfo sucked as a head coach.  Wow, thats impressive.

Chief Mac

Quote from: PaleHorse on September 06, 2007, 09:24:51 am
Wasn't Tulane a step down from WSU?  Why would he do that?

look over the whole thread.  Opine stated that Tulane gave him free tution for all of his kids to ANY school.   That's a nice incentive.
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The Boar War

Quote from: Fatty McGee on September 06, 2007, 02:18:35 pm
Quote from: The Boar War on September 06, 2007, 02:11:57 pm
Quote from: CDubyaP on September 06, 2007, 01:49:12 pm
Isn't Tulane known more for academics?

Is this a push by White to continue to push academics more than sports????

John White is always going to be an academic guy.  If this is the hire I think it is a good compromise.  I have been very worried about this search.  There is no way White should have been given the go ahead on a one man search.  However if this is the hire I think he did a decent job.

Here's a question:  Does this name have the wow factor Wally was referring to on Sports Rap?

When has White made a poor hire?  Being AD isn't about athletics, it's about management skills and putting the guys who do know athletics, ie. the coaches, in the best position to succeed.

Wasn't Stan Heath a John White hire? 

The reasons I have been worried about the hire include 1) a seven month search and 2) one person conducting this search.  I would be worried about giving anyone all the discretion.

John White is an academic guy.  Thats not an issue unless he has to choose between a guy at a successful athletic program with less than stellar academics and someone who has not done so well athletically but whose athletes have high GPA's.  Personally I would rather have an Athletic Director who is more concerned with athletics.  Not that academics aren't important.   

Michaelt

Quote from: MarkinMemphis on September 06, 2007, 01:41:22 pm
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mpeacock

September 06, 2007, 07:45:52 pm #62 Last Edit: September 06, 2007, 07:47:28 pm by mpeacock
If we hire a man whose name could easily be Dick Dickson as AD, have Houston Nutt as a coach, and two more Dicks on the team...I will truly believe that the UofA has a bad case of p**** envy. Really, p**** gets censored on this board now?

 

Brand X Hog Fan

September 06, 2007, 08:00:08 pm #63 Last Edit: September 06, 2007, 08:03:09 pm by Seahawk4ever
Quote from: opineonswine on September 06, 2007, 08:37:47 am
In announcing the firing of head football coach Scelfo, AD Rick Dickson says direction of football program is not satisfactory.

In a hastily called, late-night press conference, Tulane Athletic Director Rick Dickson announced Tuesday that Green Wave football coach Chris Scelfo was fired.

Dickson, who was meeting with the Tulane football team at 6:45 p.m., met the media at 8 p.m. to say the move to dismiss Scelfo was made because there weren't enough positives from the football program, and there was a need for a "fresh approach."  "After much deliberation and consultation with members of the Tulane University community, I have informed Chris Scelfo that he will not remain the head coach of the Green Wave football team," Dickson said in the statement released by the university. "The direction of the football program is not satisfactory. We must do better.  We must be competitive in our conference."




Wow. Integrity.
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Dwight_K_Shrute

I think Rick Dickson is the perfect porn star name.
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Fatty McGee

Quote from: The Boar War on September 06, 2007, 05:12:23 pm
Wasn't Stan Heath a John White hire? 

No.

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The reasons I have been worried about the hire include 1) a seven month search and 2) one person conducting this search.  I would be worried about giving anyone all the discretion.

How long should it have taken?  I believe he used an executive search firm and then he has to get it approved by the BOT. 

Would you prefer a committee made up of ex and current players?

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John White is an academic guy.  Thats not an issue unless he has to choose between a guy at a successful athletic program with less than stellar academics and someone who has not done so well athletically but whose athletes have high GPA's.  Personally I would rather have an Athletic Director who is more concerned with athletics.  Not that academics aren't important.   

Right now we have an AD who knows nothing but athletics and that's not working out so great, is it?
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Oklahawg

Dickson gets my two-thumbs up approval. I'm glad he has academic credentials from being at Tulane. Nothing wrong with setting high standards. If you get good leadership AND a commitment to academics why complain?

Good to have that chapter coming to a head in UA sports.
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Porkatarian

Quote from: RzrbkJohn on September 06, 2007, 06:14:22 am
Quote from: butchdavisisback on September 06, 2007, 06:07:53 am
Just read Wally's column too.  He seems like as good a choice as any.  Tulane went through a tough time after Katrina and I do remember being impressed by how hard the administration worked hard to help the students.  I still wish we could get Terry Don Phillips...but a Broyles man might be reluctant to pull the trigger on Dale.

I seriously doubt Wally knows who it will be.  He's not exactly "in the know" at the BAC.  

I don't know why people think some one outside the program (or not past affiliated with JFB) will be more likely to fire HDN.  Let's say we hire this Tulane guy.  Do you think he is going to fire HDN for anything that might have happened in the past not under his watch?  I doubt it.  He will start him out with a clean slate and evaluate HDN's performance each year like most AD's do with their head coaches. 

My point is, 1.  I doubt Wally knows anything, and 2.  Wake up if you think any NEW AD is going to have a quick trigger when firing a head coach.

None of the snakes at the BAC knew who our new AD was going to be until they read Wally's column this morning.   John White has done a great job of keeping his search quiet.


Porkatarian out...
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The Boar War

September 06, 2007, 10:00:26 pm #68 Last Edit: September 06, 2007, 10:03:03 pm by The Boar War
Quote from: Fatty McGee on September 06, 2007, 08:09:48 pm
Quote from: The Boar War on September 06, 2007, 05:12:23 pm
Wasn't Stan Heath a John White hire? 

No.

Quote
The reasons I have been worried about the hire include 1) a seven month search and 2) one person conducting this search.  I would be worried about giving anyone all the discretion.

How long should it have taken?  I believe he used an executive search firm and then he has to get it approved by the BOT. 

Would you prefer a committee made up of ex and current players?

Quote
John White is an academic guy.  Thats not an issue unless he has to choose between a guy at a successful athletic program with less than stellar academics and someone who has not done so well athletically but whose athletes have high GPA's.  Personally I would rather have an Athletic Director who is more concerned with athletics.  Not that academics aren't important.   

Right now we have an AD who knows nothing but athletics and that's not working out so great, is it?

Sorry if I'm mistaken about Stan Heath's hiring.  I really thought that was a John White move.

The other reasons (time of search and number of people involved) are simply things that have worried me.  Should it take seven months to find an acceptable AD?  I don't know.  It seems like a long time.  The length tends to make me think that some have been offered or approached and have turned it down.  If the executive search committee was used it was done so at the same time we hired Pelphrey.  That leaves us having a list of names for around five months.  Either we've been sitting on it or, again, we have been turned down.  

A committee to name an AD made up of players and ex players would not be a good idea.   However a committee (in and of itself) would not be a bad idea.  I tend to buy into the reasoning that two heads are better than one.  And yes, of course, the BOT has to sign off on the hire.  However its only a yes or no vote.  Theres no say as to who might be good or why.  

The problem with Broyles is not that he is an athletic guy.  Part of the problem is that he stayed way too long.  He did a good job for a long time.  He is just a holdover from a bygone era where head coaches became AD's.  Now they are more likely to be CEOs.  That being said I would still rather have a CEO who has administered over successful athletic programs.

Dwight_K_Shrute

Quote from: Porkatarian on September 06, 2007, 09:42:49 pm
Quote from: RzrbkJohn on September 06, 2007, 06:14:22 am
Quote from: butchdavisisback on September 06, 2007, 06:07:53 am
Just read Wally's column too.  He seems like as good a choice as any.  Tulane went through a tough time after Katrina and I do remember being impressed by how hard the administration worked hard to help the students.  I still wish we could get Terry Don Phillips...but a Broyles man might be reluctant to pull the trigger on Dale.

I seriously doubt Wally knows who it will be.  He's not exactly "in the know" at the BAC.  

I don't know why people think some one outside the program (or not past affiliated with JFB) will be more likely to fire HDN.  Let's say we hire this Tulane guy.  Do you think he is going to fire HDN for anything that might have happened in the past not under his watch?  I doubt it.  He will start him out with a clean slate and evaluate HDN's performance each year like most AD's do with their head coaches. 

My point is, 1.  I doubt Wally knows anything, and 2.  Wake up if you think any NEW AD is going to have a quick trigger when firing a head coach.

None of the snakes at the BAC knew who our new AD was going to be until they read Wally's column this morning.   John White has done a great job of keeping his search quiet.


Porkatarian out...

Houston will try to be his BFF.  I bet he siddles right up glad hands aw shucks whatever it takes.
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riccoar

That'll last right up until the point he doesn't praise HDN and takes an objective approach to mentioning his sub par performance as a coach.

Dwight_K_Shrute

He shoudl start out by saying

1.  We will not be eigth in potential, fund raising, facilities, or results.
2.  Our goal will be to compete for conference and national championships, not divisional trophies.
3.  We will not reward moral victories and almosts with rings and trophies.
4.  We will hold our coaches to the highest professional, moral, and ethical standards.
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redbarn

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September 06, 2007, 11:20:30 pm #72 Last Edit: September 06, 2007, 11:32:51 pm by redbarn
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Dwight_K_Shrute

Little known fact, but prior to settling on Guantanamo, the Pentagon wanted to house terror suspects at War Memorial Stadium.  It was deemed to be cruel and unusual punishment and in violation of the Geneva Convention.

 

WilsonHog

I hope this has legs and Rick Dickson is our new AD. That would be one helluva fine hire.

whatsshakinbacon

Quote from: WilsonHog on September 06, 2007, 11:39:16 pm
I hope this has legs and Rick Dickson is our new AD. That would be one helluva fine hire.

I agree with you.  He's anything but a talking head.

Bacon out...

Oklahawg

Quote from: donewithdale on September 07, 2007, 01:07:27 am
Hope our new AD was paying attention to what happened in Cinci tonight and has the number to Kelly's agent.  34-3 over an Oregon St team most think will be pretty good this season.

May well have that phone number, but I hope he sets his sights a bit higher :)
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biggiepiggie

Quote from: RzrbkJohn on September 06, 2007, 09:01:15 am
Quote from: PaleHorse on September 06, 2007, 08:57:53 am
Dudley Dawson said this on "Bo's Show" about a month ago.

Apparently he's a good fundraiser and showed great leadership after Katrina.  Not sure about his hiring skills.  I can't recall any former Tulane coaches that achieved success.  Someone correct me if I'm wrong.
Tommy Bowden had an undefeated season at Tulane.  That would be one of
my definitions of success.

oldfart

wasnt tommy bowden on broyles wish list originally?